Massive Hypocrisy on Display in France

[Thunderbird]

Let's not pretend Muslims alone are violent.

Europe's Muslims feel heat of backlash after Paris terror attack

26 mosques have been attacked, with weapons including firebombs, guns, and grenades.

Some idiot will say "Well those evil Muslims started it!" but the French under Hollande have killed quite a few Muslims prior to the terrorist attack in Paris.

 

[irosie91]

poor Esmeralda------encountered muslims in a business relationship in their parlors -----as a non muslim guest and
IMAGINES she "knows". Esmeralda----you are clueless

 

[Dogmaphobe]

It's irrelevant that probably 90% of all Muslims are moderate and yet you paint the entire 1.7 billion of them as 'trouble makers.' Interesting.

When the actual beliefs of Muslims have been brought to your attention, you have not been in the least bit willing to acknowledge them, since you are simply too dishonest to do so.

If this this imaginary number you trot out is true, then you have just described the desire to kill people who leave one's faith as a "moderate" position. Killing gay people is "moderate" to you as is throwing people in jail or killing them for blasphemy.

You only consider these beliefs moderate because they are Muslims and because you have predetermined that you absolutely must defend them. If they came from any other group of people, they would be considered extreme.

When people create double standards such that what they consider "moderate" for a Muslim is such magnitudes different than the standard they would use for any other group, what does that say about the hypocrite in question and what does that say about Islam? Seems to me that one of the biggest indictments of Islam is exactly this hypocrisy -- it demands such a completely different standard in order to judge it by all the legions of apologists who find it necessary to indulge in these very sorts of dishonest platitudes about imaginary "moderates".

As apologists define it, a "moderate" Muslim is simply a Muslim who is not actively engaged in terrorism. It does not mean this is a moderate person, however, as hundreds of millions support the objectives, if not the methods the terrorists employ towards their shared ends. .

 

[Thunderbird]

France is one of the countries that has imposed sanctions on Iran.

Iran sanctions now causing food insecurity, mass suffering

Iran unable to get life-saving drugs due to international sanctions

 

[Thunderbird]

The French and Israeli governments use force to silence opposition:

French Twitter Lawsuit Pits Free Speech Against Hate Speech NPR

Media obsesses over free speech in Charlie Hebdo case while ignoring Israeli targeting of journalists

France become first country in world to ban pro-Palestine demos Daily Mail Online

Palestinian Killed In Israeli Airstrike On Journalists Car

Israel bans catastrophe term from Arab schools Reuters

So how are they better than the Kouachi brothers?

 

[irosie91]

The French and Israeli governments use force to silence opposition:



French Twitter Lawsuit Pits Free Speech Against Hate Speech NPR
rosie----death threats are illegal and in a place where
those you admire are considered heros by those you
admire for such acts as grabbing a four year old
jewish girl by the hair and blowing her brains out----
RENDER DEATH THREAT TWEETS serious enough
to be a crime which should logically be investigated

Media obsesses over free speech in Charlie Hebdo case while ignoring Israeli targeting of journalists


rosie---this citations does nothing for you-----the fact that
jounalists got killed in war is------a non issue. the fact
that some people posing as journalists are spies---
is also a non issue

France become first country in world to ban pro-Palestine demos Daily Mail Online

SO.??? since such demonstrations involve violence
it is logical to ban them

Palestinian Killed In Israeli Airstrike On Journalists Car

SO? lots of jounalists die if they decide to attach
themselves to arenas of war

Israel bans catastrophe term from Arab schools Reuters

SO? history books in any given country that describe
the founding of that country a "catastrophe" should
logically be banned

So how are they better than the Kouachi brothers?

rosie>>>none of your citations support your islamo Nazi POV. You have demeaned yourself even further by
citing PROPAGANDA sites. All decent people avoid
overt propaganda sites when discussing issues

 

[Thunderbird]

You have demeaned yourself even further by
citing PROPAGANDA sites. All decent people avoid
overt propaganda sites when discussing issues

You don't back up your crazed hate-filled Zionazi verbal diarrhea with facts, so we can't take you seriously irosie91.

The French Twitter lawsuit involved anti-Semitic speech not death threats.

Journalists were targeted in Gaza.

Do you believe people have the right to assemble and protest?

Do you think people should be allowed to condemn acts of ethnic cleansing?

Why do you feel NPR and Reuters are propaganda sites?

 

[irosie91]

Let's not pretend Muslims alone are violent.

Europe's Muslims feel heat of backlash after Paris terror attack

26 mosques have been attacked, with weapons including firebombs, guns, and grenades.

Some idiot will say "Well those evil Muslims started it!" but the French under Hollande have killed quite a few Muslims prior to the terrorist attack in Paris.

did someone tell you that the only people in the world who
are violent are muslims?-----your comment is nothing more
than a vulgar innuendo. Anyone die in those false flag
ASSAULTS ON MOSQUES ------anyone in the mosques
when the mosques were ASSAULTED?

 

[ChrisL]

It's irrelevant that probably 90% of all Muslims are moderate and yet you paint the entire 1.7 billion of them as 'trouble makers.' Interesting.

When the actual beliefs of Muslims have been brought to your attention, you have not been in the least bit willing to acknowledge them, since you are simply too dishonest to do so.

If this this imaginary number you trot out is true, then you have just described the desire to kill people who leave one's faith as a "moderate" position. Killing gay people is "moderate" to you as is throwing people in jail or killing them for blasphemy.

You only consider these beliefs moderate because they are Muslims and because you have predetermined that you absolutely must defend them. If they came from any other group of people, they would be considered extreme.

When people create double standards such that what they consider "moderate" for a Muslim is such magnitudes different than the standard they would use for any other group, what does that say about the hypocrite in question and what does that say about Islam? Seems to me that one of the biggest indictments of Islam is exactly this hypocrisy -- it demands such a completely different standard in order to judge it by all the legions of apologists who find it necessary to indulge in these very sorts of dishonest platitudes about imaginary "moderates".

As apologists define it, a "moderate" Muslim is simply a Muslim who is not actively engaged in terrorism. It does not mean this is a moderate person, however, as hundreds of millions support the objectives, if not the methods the terrorists employ towards their shared ends. .

Great post. Makes a ton of sense.

 

[georgephillip]

Chomsky has questions about the massive hypocrisy regarding Muslim terrorism in Paris

"There are other questions. One would naturally ask how France upholds freedom of expression and the sacred principles of 'fraternity, freedom, solidarity.'

"For example, is it through the Gayssot Law, repeatedly implemented, which effectively grants the state the right to determine Historical Truth and punish deviation from its edicts? By expelling miserable descendants of Holocaust survivors (Roma) to bitter persecution in Eastern Europe? By the deplorable treatment of North African immigrants in the banlieues of Paris where the Charlie Hebdo terrorists became jihadis?

"When the courageous journal Charlie Hebdo fired the cartoonist Siné on grounds that a comment of his was deemed to have anti-Semitic connotations?

"Many more questions quickly arise.

"Anyone with eyes open will quickly notice other rather striking omissions.

"Thus, prominent among those who face an 'enormous challenge' from brutal violence are Palestinians, once again during Israel's vicious assault on Gaza in the summer of 2014, in which many journalists were murdered, sometimes in well-marked press cars, along with thousands of others, while the Israeli-run outdoor prison was again reduced to rubble on pretexts that collapse instantly on examination."

Chomsky Paris attacks show hypocrisy of West s outrage - CNN.com

 

[ChrisL]

France is one of the countries that has imposed sanctions on Iran.

Iran sanctions now causing food insecurity, mass suffering

Iran unable to get life-saving drugs due to international sanctions

Good. It's the fault of the Iranian government. Put the blame where it belongs please.

 

[Silhouette]

Not too surprising you can't understand a simple cartoon. Try reading it again and concentrate and maybe you'll get it.

Has the publication "Charlie Hebdoe" ever published a cartoon of the Virgin Mary being raped by a donkey? Because that is the "offense equivalent" of posting a humiliating picture of the Prophet Muhammed. Just a picture of his is the same level of deep disrespect. Neither cartoon would be acceptable IMHO.

I'm not a big fan of either Islam or Roman Catholicism. But I'll bet Charlie Hebdoe would never in a million years depict the Virgin Mary in such a way. So they don't really believe in freedom of speech..

 

[SAYIT]

Not too surprising you can't understand a simple cartoon. Try reading it again and concentrate and maybe you'll get it.

Has the publication "Charlie Hebdoe" ever published a cartoon of the Virgin Mary being raped by a donkey? Because that is the "offense equivalent" of posting a humiliating picture of the Prophet Muhammed. Just a picture of his is the same level of deep disrespect....

I believe a pic of Mohamed being raped by a pig would be the equivalent of what you describe and indeed neither is appropriate but that is no excuse for the carnage at Charlie Hebdo.

 

[SAYIT]

...Some idiot will say "Well those evil Muslims started it!" but the French under Hollande have killed quite a few Muslims prior to the terrorist attack in Paris.

I really have to wonder about the mental stability of those who try to excuse what happened in Paris last week.

 

[SAYIT]

You have demeaned yourself even further by
citing PROPAGANDA sites. All decent people avoid
overt propaganda sites when discussing issues

You don't back up your crazed hate-filled Zionazi verbal diarrhea with facts, so we can't take you seriously irosie91.

The French Twitter lawsuit involved anti-Semitic speech not death threats.

Journalists were targeted in Gaza.

Do you believe people have the right to assemble and protest?

Do you think people should be allowed to condemn acts of ethnic cleansing?

Why do you feel NPR and Reuters are propaganda sites?

According to The Committee to Protect Journalists, 1 media guy was murdered in "Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory" since 1992 - Suleiman Abdul-Rahim al-Ashi (Suleiman Abdul-Rahim al-Ashi - Journalists Killed - Committee to Protect Journalists) - and he by his Palestinian brethren. Of course, this thread is ostensibly about French hypocrisy but our Nazi types need everything to be about Jooos.
Haters gotta hate.

 

[Thunderbird]

Good. It's the fault of the Iranian government. Put the blame where it belongs please.

You want to starve the innocent and deprive them of medicine?

Why can't Iran defend itself from Israeli threats?

 

[Esmeralda]

Not too surprising you can't understand a simple cartoon. Try reading it again and concentrate and maybe you'll get it.

Has the publication "Charlie Hebdoe" ever published a cartoon of the Virgin Mary being raped by a donkey? Because that is the "offense equivalent" of posting a humiliating picture of the Prophet Muhammed. Just a picture of his is the same level of deep disrespect. Neither cartoon would be acceptable IMHO.

I'm not a big fan of either Islam or Roman Catholicism. But I'll bet Charlie Hebdoe would never in a million years depict the Virgin Mary in such a way. So they don't really believe in freedom of speech..

Well, apparently, they ridiculed all religions. So, there may not be the exact scenario you describe, but something insulting. I see no reason to purposely be offensive and probably would not have seen much value in the Charlie Hebdoe magazine, but no matter what someone says about a religion, a person, a religious leader, etc., the response is not murder. It goes back to that sticks and stones thing.: "Sticks and stones may break my bones/
But words will never hurt me."

 

[Thunderbird]

I really have to wonder about the mental stability of those who try to excuse what happened in Paris last week.

I wonder about the mental stability of supposedly patriotic Americans who put Israeli interests over American interests.

Israel sells advanced weaponry to America's enemies and conducts spy operations that harm America.

 

[georgephillip]

According to The Committee to Protect Journalists, 1 media guy was murdered in "Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory" since 1992

Are you saying ONLY 1 media member was murdered in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory since 1992?

From your link:

Palestinian photojournalist killed in Israeli air strike - Committee to Protect Journalists
Palestinian cameraman killed during Israeli assault - Committee to Protect Journalists
At least three journalists injured by Israeli airstrikes in Gaza - Committee to Protect Journalists
Israeli airstrike destroys press car killing Palestinian media worker - Committee to Protect Journalists

 

[irosie91]

so?