McCain's Flag Thread and Poll

[rightwinger]

John McCain forgave Vietnam for years of torture. He advocated returning diplomatic relations

Trump is a spoiled child who bears grudges for years

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

I don't know what she would have done.

I've always believed that the FBI investigations were used as a threat
against her, when she made statements that some of Zero's policies
had to go. Zero wasn't going to allow her to change his policies, and
he wanted her to see he still had in's with the FBI/DOJ.

Hillary and Hubby are both big-time capitalists. They are also big-time
elites, that wield a lot of power. I don't know how much things would
be different if she had won and changed his policies. We could be
seeing the same investigations if she had won the Presidency.

I would disagree with her, because she would have handed out more
crumbs to the minorities, but she would have still wanted to be a good
President. AND she could have been better than Obama.

Her problem was...Obama had the goods on her and she knew it. BUT,
she had shit on Zero also, It would have been interesting theater.

Zero is the culprit...always has been. Hillary always knew she had power
to fight him, but had to cater to him, to rid herself of the FBI.

Now she's a klutz and a bitch but she would have been twice the President
of the People that Obama ever was.

Most sensible people know EXACTLY what she would have done. She's even openly said so. Your confusion is baffling....or not.

She clearly stated she was FOR Open Borders (same as Angela Merkel in Germany, and Germany is now lost forever).
She clearly stated she was for raising taxes (well duh, more revenue for herself and her rich cronies that run the IRS)
She clearly stated that she would bring about drastic gun control (Like ALL good dictators do)

So your statement that she would have been "Twice the President of the people".....was that a joke? If not, you're another moron on the Democrat Plantation plain & simple.
What people? Surely you meant the Socialists/Communists people of America because she sure as fuck wasn't for the people I know or who value the US Constitution by ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

John McCain forgave Vietnam for years of torture. He advocated returning diplomatic relations
Trump is a spoiled child who bears grudges for years

^^^^DumbAssCrat

McCain was a pure trash shit stain on America.

With EVERY post you prove how utterly ignorant you are and how Anti-American, anti-Constitutional and how much you despise freedom and liberty.

John McCain Is the Perfect American Lie

The REAL JOHN McCain
Source
The Real John McCain
Date: August 8, 2017Author: shieldwallnetwork

This article was written by JJ Paul McCartney who says:

For anyone who doesn’t know the real John McCain let me help you get to know
him. And remember this doesn’t even mention his traitorous acts while he was
a POW.

Okay, people…before John McCain dies and the ridiculous “tributes” to the man make me vomit, let’s remember what McCain’s real legacy is: His father was the Admiral in charge of the Pacific fleet prosecuting the war in
Vietnam Nam.

Because of this McCain got preferential treatment in the Navy. He was allowed to become a Navy pilot. But he was a terrible pilot.

McCain crashed two Navy Jets in his early career. Then while aboard the Aircraft Carrier USS Forrestal, McCain got angry because he had to wait in line to take off on a bombing run.

He shut off his engines, opened the cockpit, and in his haste to exit the aircraft to chew someone out about his having to ” wait”, he hit the button that released his live bombs onto the deck of the Forrestal.

He took off running, as the bombs exploded, which set off a chain reaction of bombs from adjacent aircraft, and the ensuing explosions and fires killed 133 sailors aboard the Forrestal.

While his fellow sailors were fighting the fire, McCain went to the pilot’s lounge below decks and watched the men fight the fire on closed circuit TV.

Hours later, McCain took off with a New York Times reporter buddy of his, and went on to say that after seeing the effects of those bombs on the Forrestal, he was beginning to question the morality of dropping those bombs on the Viet Cong.

McCain was the direct cause of 133 deaths on his own ship, and was never reprimanded. He was nowhere to be found as the Forrestal had to limp to the Philippines for months of repair work.

McCain was married then. His wife was stricken with debilitating injuries in an automobile accident. And was hospitalized for more than 5 months. McCain was off gallivanting with anything in a skirt.

Upon returning from Vietnam Nam, McCain found his wife was disfigured by her injuries, which included a shattered pelvis, arm, and legs. In order to save her legs, doctors performed 23 surgeries on her, and had to remove significant portions of the bones in her legs, which left he shorter, and unable to walk, and in a wheelchair, she had to use a catheter.

McCain was disinterested in his first wife’s predicament. She had to go through grueling physical therapy to learn to walk again.

After McCain left the Navy, he was intent on a career in politics. He and His wife Carol had gotten to know Ronald and Nancy Reagan, and McCain was eager to jump into politics.

But he decided he needed a more visually pleasing young woman by his side. He callously divorced Carol, the mother of his three children, and
immediately jumped into the sack with new wife Cindy, who was 18 years
younger.

Upon learning of this, the Reagans were shocked and angered by how he had
treated Carol.

While campaigning for congress, McCain used pictures of himself posing with Mr. And Mrs. Reagan, but there was no hearty endorsement offered by the Reagans.

McCain’s new young wife was also an heiress to an Arizona Brewing fortune.
And let us not forget McCain was one of the Keating 5, who had helped swindle life savings from countless Americans in the Savings and Loan scandal of the 1980’s. McCain was in it up to his eyeballs.

Yet McCain was well-connected in Washington, and parlayed his connections into a seat in the United States Senate.

So before the tearful tributes to John McCain, be sure you remember the facts about this self-proclaimed Maverick. The facts do not agree with that portrait of a heroic patriot and great American.

With due respect to his family, John McCain was never the great man so many portray him as.

I do not wish the man any harm or ill-will. But neither should we allow this false narrative fairy-tale about this scoundrel of a man as he faces his eternal fate.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

THE REAL REASON TRUMP RAISED THE FLAG BACK UP.

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Because it was the only way he could get the cameras and the press back on HIM.

Sound crazy? Not when you understand Trump is a sociopath.

Trump's biggest fear isn't Mueller, it's waking up in the morning and NOT being in the headlines.

Sociopaths MUST have all the attention: good, bad or ugly. Just as long as it's about him.

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[WaitingFor2020]

John McCain forgave Vietnam for years of torture. He advocated returning diplomatic relations
Trump is a spoiled child who bears grudges for years

^^^^DumbAssCrat

McCain was a pure trash shit stain on America.

With EVERY post you prove how utterly ignorant you are and how Anti-American, anti-Constitutional and how much you despise freedom and liberty.

John McCain Is the Perfect American Lie

The REAL JOHN McCain
Source
The Real John McCain
Date: August 8, 2017Author: shieldwallnetwork

This article was written by JJ Paul McCartney who says:

For anyone who doesn’t know the real John McCain let me help you get to know
him. And remember this doesn’t even mention his traitorous acts while he was
a POW.

Okay, people…before John McCain dies and the ridiculous “tributes” to the man make me vomit, let’s remember what McCain’s real legacy is: His father was the Admiral in charge of the Pacific fleet prosecuting the war in
Vietnam Nam.

Because of this McCain got preferential treatment in the Navy. He was allowed to become a Navy pilot. But he was a terrible pilot.

McCain crashed two Navy Jets in his early career. Then while aboard the Aircraft Carrier USS Forrestal, McCain got angry because he had to wait in line to take off on a bombing run.

He shut off his engines, opened the cockpit, and in his haste to exit the aircraft to chew someone out about his having to ” wait”, he hit the button that released his live bombs onto the deck of the Forrestal.

He took off running, as the bombs exploded, which set off a chain reaction of bombs from adjacent aircraft, and the ensuing explosions and fires killed 133 sailors aboard the Forrestal.

While his fellow sailors were fighting the fire, McCain went to the pilot’s lounge below decks and watched the men fight the fire on closed circuit TV.

Hours later, McCain took off with a New York Times reporter buddy of his, and went on to say that after seeing the effects of those bombs on the Forrestal, he was beginning to question the morality of dropping those bombs on the Viet Cong.

McCain was the direct cause of 133 deaths on his own ship, and was never reprimanded. He was nowhere to be found as the Forrestal had to limp to the Philippines for months of repair work.

McCain was married then. His wife was stricken with debilitating injuries in an automobile accident. And was hospitalized for more than 5 months. McCain was off gallivanting with anything in a skirt.

Upon returning from Vietnam Nam, McCain found his wife was disfigured by her injuries, which included a shattered pelvis, arm, and legs. In order to save her legs, doctors performed 23 surgeries on her, and had to remove significant portions of the bones in her legs, which left he shorter, and unable to walk, and in a wheelchair, she had to use a catheter.

McCain was disinterested in his first wife’s predicament. She had to go through grueling physical therapy to learn to walk again.

After McCain left the Navy, he was intent on a career in politics. He and His wife Carol had gotten to know Ronald and Nancy Reagan, and McCain was eager to jump into politics.

But he decided he needed a more visually pleasing young woman by his side. He callously divorced Carol, the mother of his three children, and
immediately jumped into the sack with new wife Cindy, who was 18 years
younger.

Upon learning of this, the Reagans were shocked and angered by how he had
treated Carol.

While campaigning for congress, McCain used pictures of himself posing with Mr. And Mrs. Reagan, but there was no hearty endorsement offered by the Reagans.

McCain’s new young wife was also an heiress to an Arizona Brewing fortune.
And let us not forget McCain was one of the Keating 5, who had helped swindle life savings from countless Americans in the Savings and Loan scandal of the 1980’s. McCain was in it up to his eyeballs.

Yet McCain was well-connected in Washington, and parlayed his connections into a seat in the United States Senate.

So before the tearful tributes to John McCain, be sure you remember the facts about this self-proclaimed Maverick. The facts do not agree with that portrait of a heroic patriot and great American.

With due respect to his family, John McCain was never the great man so many portray him as.

I do not wish the man any harm or ill-will. But neither should we allow this false narrative fairy-tale about this scoundrel of a man as he faces his eternal fate.

More blog bullshit.
McCain was in the public eye in public service for 60 years.
Never indicted, incarcerated, investigated in all that time.
Trump? Only took two months before he committed obstruction of justice and now all of his associates are fessing up and going to jail.

This is particularly hypocritical from your post:
"""But he decided he needed a more visually pleasing young woman by his side. He callously divorced Carol, the mother of his three children, and
immediately jumped into the sack with new wife Cindy, who was 18 years
younger."""

Does the name Marla Maples ring a bell inside your empty fucking pea-brain?

Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house, idiot.
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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Congratulations America! We have an internet troll as president.

When did you get elected? I must have missed it!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I wonder how the Trump supporters feel about Trump caving in to public pressure?

Can't this White House do the simplest things without screwing up? I can just picture them scurrying around all day investigating protocol and custom and blaming each other for what went wrong. I wonder if Sarah is doing a press briefing today.

Actually, finding out what customs and protocol are to be followed is kinda part of the job of WH staff. I know that when the CO wanted to know how to do something, he called down to the ships office (admin) and asked how he would go about doing something, especially if it involved a lot of ceremony and crap like that.

In that case, your CO was a moron because the signalman/quartermasters are tasked with that information!

If you even had an ESWS pin you should know that.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why is the flag being lowered again? Is there some kind of prescribed time limit?

There is a prescribed time limit, but traditionally, it's left at half-mast until the Senator in question is buried. For Trump to snap it back up the second the prescribed time limit is reached looks petty, vindictive, and childish.

Which, let's face it, are all kinda known aspects of Trump's personality.

Yes, I am sure Trump was out there pulling the lines himself!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It was lowered for the proscribed amount of time. Then the left had a tantrum.

Not just the left. A lot of people on the right, including me, thought Trump's behavior overall regarding McCain's passing was immature and pointless.

The only thing immature and pointless is the attitude of people like you who question every action as being immature and pointless. McCain wanted it that way when he did not want President Trump at his funeral.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So much ado. I am sure Trump thought about having some flag guy raise it, then lower it, cuz he is so bored sitting at that desk and all he does is look at his watch and the calendar on what maintenance guy does.

Really? So your defense of treating a decorated veteran and six-term Senator who passes away shabbily is to double down on the shabby treatment by relegating honoring him to "just maintenance work"? How about when he tweeted his condolences to the family without uttering a single word about McCain himself? Was that also just "because he's too important to be bothered"?

The more you try to defend this, the worse Trump looks.

He was wrong, and behaved badly. There is no combination of words that's going to make that not-true.

He was doing as McCain asked by staying out of it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I wonder how the Trump supporters feel about Trump caving in to public pressure?

Can't this White House do the simplest things without screwing up? I can just picture them scurrying around all day investigating protocol and custom and blaming each other for what went wrong. I wonder if Sarah is doing a press briefing today.

What did they do wrong? They followed standard protocol n people went nuts.

Because they were so obviously BARELY following protocol, and coupled with Trump's repeated refusals to say anything about McCain's death beyond, "My condolences to the family", it looked really grudging and snotty and consequently, just about as rude and insulting as refusing to lower the flag at all would have been.

If trump would have extended it theyd say hes just faking sympathy.

Fucking tired of 100% negative spin

The left is going to criticize whatever Trump does, that's a given. However, a lot of people on the right, especially veterans, were offended by Trump's overall behavior in the wake of McCain's death. I know, because I'm one of them. And mind you, as I've said several times, I personally couldn't stand McCain. He was my Senator, and I kept wishing his stupid ass would retire. But he was still a 6-term US Senator, and however much people want to quibble and argue about it, he was accepted as a bona fide war hero, and admired by many as such.

At some point, Trump - and you - have to accept that sometimes it's not "100% negative spin". Sometimes, Trump really is just a petty, childish jackass who could use some lessons in civilized, mature behavior. And this was one of them.

If Trump walked on water, the NY Times would have a headline saying, 'President Trump is unable to swim!"

 

[airplanemechanic]

The amount of political favors she would have had to dole out to pay all those son of a bitches back would have sent America in to a depression.

Voting Hillary into office would have sent America into a depression.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Can't this White House do the simplest things without screwing up? I can just picture them scurrying around all day investigating protocol and custom and blaming each other for what went wrong. I wonder if Sarah is doing a press briefing today.

What did they do wrong? They followed standard protocol n people went nuts.

Because they were so obviously BARELY following protocol, and coupled with Trump's repeated refusals to say anything about McCain's death beyond, "My condolences to the family", it looked really grudging and snotty and consequently, just about as rude and insulting as refusing to lower the flag at all would have been.

If trump would have extended it theyd say hes just faking sympathy.

Fucking tired of 100% negative spin

The left is going to criticize whatever Trump does, that's a given. However, a lot of people on the right, especially veterans, were offended by Trump's overall behavior in the wake of McCain's death. I know, because I'm one of them. And mind you, as I've said several times, I personally couldn't stand McCain. He was my Senator, and I kept wishing his stupid ass would retire. But he was still a 6-term US Senator, and however much people want to quibble and argue about it, he was accepted as a bona fide war hero, and admired by many as such.

At some point, Trump - and you - have to accept that sometimes it's not "100% negative spin". Sometimes, Trump really is just a petty, childish jackass who could use some lessons in civilized, mature behavior. And this was one of them.

If Trump walked on water, the NY Times would have a headline saying, 'President Trump is unable to swim!"

/——/ Or Trump pollutes lake with his dirty shoes.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What did they do wrong? They followed standard protocol n people went nuts.

Because they were so obviously BARELY following protocol, and coupled with Trump's repeated refusals to say anything about McCain's death beyond, "My condolences to the family", it looked really grudging and snotty and consequently, just about as rude and insulting as refusing to lower the flag at all would have been.

If trump would have extended it theyd say hes just faking sympathy.

Fucking tired of 100% negative spin

The left is going to criticize whatever Trump does, that's a given. However, a lot of people on the right, especially veterans, were offended by Trump's overall behavior in the wake of McCain's death. I know, because I'm one of them. And mind you, as I've said several times, I personally couldn't stand McCain. He was my Senator, and I kept wishing his stupid ass would retire. But he was still a 6-term US Senator, and however much people want to quibble and argue about it, he was accepted as a bona fide war hero, and admired by many as such.

At some point, Trump - and you - have to accept that sometimes it's not "100% negative spin". Sometimes, Trump really is just a petty, childish jackass who could use some lessons in civilized, mature behavior. And this was one of them.

Sometimes he is/does.

A lot of times.

But trump control this or the WH staff?

Also if the left didnt make EVERYTHING negative, the real problems would be much more self evident.

Yes, Trump controls his own statements upon McCain's passing, and I'd be mightily surprised if whoever's in charge of protocol at the WH didn't at least have a 2-minute conversation with the President about how to handle the death of a 6-term sitting US Senator. I'm thinking that sort of event gets the guy penciled in on the date book. I have no idea why so many people persist in thinking flag protocol upon the death of a Senator is just some minor, daily minutiae handled by the janitor.

Btw, I'm pretty sure it's not the janitor who raises and lowers the flag at the WH, even on a normal day.

No. It's probably a GS-13 position at a six figure salary, and that is all that person does. Of course, you have to have a doctorate and 20 years experience to get the job.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

More blog bullshit.
McCain was in the public eye in public service for 60 years.
Never indicted, incarcerated, investigated in all that time.

Yeah, amazing what you can get away with if you have the "right connections" isn't it?

Trump? Only took two months before he committed obstruction of justice and now all of his associates are fessing up and going to jail.
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Yeah, right...in the minds of you Communists, ANYONE who loves and defends the USA is guilty from the start.

This is particularly hypocritical from your post:
"""But he decided he needed a more visually pleasing young woman by his side. He callously divorced Carol, the mother of his three children, and
immediately jumped into the sack with new wife Cindy, who was 18 years
younger."""

Does the name Marla Maples ring a bell inside your empty fucking pea-brain?

Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house, idiot.
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THERE IT IS.....D-E-F-L-E-C-T-I-O-N........right on cue

We're talking about McCain moron....remember?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trumps view on military service :

Trump about himself “You know, if you’re young, and in this era, and if you have any guilt about not having gone to Vietnam, we have our own Vietnam — it’s called the dating game,” Trump said to Stern in a 1993 interview. “Dating is like being in Vietnam. You’re the equivalent of a soldier going over to Vietnam.” It’s like Vietnam, sort of. It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave solider... Vaginas Are 'Landmines ... It Is My Personal Vietnam'
In a 1998 interview with Howard Stern, Donald Trump compared sex to going to battle in Vietnam and joked he should be getting the Congressional Medal of Honor.
What a horrible despicable man.

What part of "joke" do you not understand?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why is the flag being lowered again? Is there some kind of prescribed time limit?

Flags are still lowered here at Ft Campbell.

That is because the base commander is more respectful and smarter than Trump.

So lowering flags to half-mast makes someone smarter?
What other things make one smarter?

Calling people racists.

Misreading tweets and attacking Trump for something he didn't say.

Calling people Nazis.

Thinking Russia runs the country.

The list goes on ...

Are you lining up to replace Sarah Huckabee Sander when she leave because you sound just like her with that total bullshit comment. Or, to quote Giuliani, "truth isn't truth."
There's no "misreading his tweets" when they're about as clear as his 3rd grade mind can make them.
There are proud Nazis out there who brag about being one. And unless you are blind, he kowtowed to Putin on the international stage and took his side against this country. He was in a private meeting with him for two and a half hours where NO ONE ELSE was allowed to witness it. I can see what you would have said if Obama did that, or even GW Bush, or Reagan or any of the other presidents in the past decade. You would be screaming from the rooftops that they were traitors, but for some reason, when this man did it, you are silent. When he finally loses his usefulness for Putin, his ass will meet a painful end, just like all of the others Putin was finished with. But by then, this country will be under the rule of a real dictator and not the pathetic wannabe in the WH now.

You do realize that we have only had 2 presidents in the past decade, and Obama was one of the two. Right?

I think you will find that such meetings were common. Did it upset you when Obama told Medvedev to tell Vlad he would have more flexibility after the election? Of course it didn't because you are a partisan hack!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Did trump grow a heart....or pressure do it?

Trump only has ONE core belief. In a word, it's TRUMP.

Trump's aides likely made him understand that there was absolutely no upside for Trump to look so petty and small minded after the death of a Senator with such an illustrious career which just so happened to include 5 1/2 years of being beaten and tortured in a North Vietnamese prisoner of war camp (which he refused to leave ahead of Americans who were held longer) even as Trump himself sought and was granted numerous deferments for ailments which appear to be little more than lame excuses.

There is another liberal lie, right on cue!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This is just like Donald. Get it up for a moment, just to let it drop again. Then claim that you let it drop out of respect, when really you just didn't have the balls to see it through.

You would know all about his balls, right?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'm sure trump will have enough class to attend the funeral. He isn't going to skip it. It wouldn't serve him well to not show.

I'll bet you a horse turd to a donut, and let you hold the stakes in your mouth, that he does not go because he has already stated who will be attending. Dumbass!