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Just for the heck of it, I'm gonna try to push this thread into more of a solutions-based conversation than the standard hyperbole and partisan politics-filled insult-fest so common here.
For the sake of the conversation, let's just stipulate that we have a problem (I'd agree, by the way). So rather than the standard partisan back-and-forth, I wonder if anyone on the Left can toss out some specific ideas on how this might be addressed:
Howzabout some civil, mature, thoughtful specifics this time?
- Some kind of law that puts a maximum on salary based on percentages?
- Higher top-end marginal income tax rates?
- Ending stock options as compensation?
- Some combination therein?
Just taking a shot here, not holding my breath.
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Just for the heck of it, I'm gonna try to push this thread into more of a solutions-based conversation than the standard hyperbole and partisan politics-filled insult-fest so common here.
For the sake of the conversation, let's just stipulate that we have a problem (I'd agree, by the way). So rather than the standard partisan back-and-forth, I wonder if anyone on the Left can toss out some specific ideas on how this might be addressed:
Howzabout some civil, mature, thoughtful specifics this time?
- Some kind of law that puts a maximum on salary based on percentages?
- Higher top-end marginal income tax rates?
- Ending stock options as compensation?
- Some combination therein?
Just taking a shot here, not holding my breath.
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nice try, but don't expect anything meaningful from our friends on the left--------------they want all CEOs jailed, their money confiscated, and their wealth "given" to the starving masses.
The left wing idiots do not realize that the system they beg for consists of a very small group who control all of the power and all of the money and everyone else is "equally" miserable. Travel to Russia if you want to see it for yourself.
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Just for the heck of it, I'm gonna try to push this thread into more of a solutions-based conversation than the standard hyperbole and partisan politics-filled insult-fest so common here.
For the sake of the conversation, let's just stipulate that we have a problem (I'd agree, by the way). So rather than the standard partisan back-and-forth, I wonder if anyone on the Left can toss out some specific ideas on how this might be addressed:
Howzabout some civil, mature, thoughtful specifics this time?
- Some kind of law that puts a maximum on salary based on percentages?
- Higher top-end marginal income tax rates?
- Ending stock options as compensation?
- Some combination therein?
Just taking a shot here, not holding my breath.
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nice try, but don't expect anything meaningful from our friends on the left--------------they want all CEOs jailed, their money confiscated, and their wealth "given" to the starving masses.
The left wing idiots do not realize that the system they beg for consists of a very small group who control all of the power and all of the money and everyone else is "equally" miserable. Travel to Russia if you want to see it for yourself.
I guess what I'd like to see is a lefty who demonstrates that they have thought through the various implications of the options. There are a few things that can be done, of course, but each carries its own potential pitfalls.
Maybe there is a good combination of actions that can be taken. I'd just like to see that the downside has been examined, and I don't see that very often here.
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I agree. Do you think the lefties would want those same limits placed on entertainers and athletes? Why do none of them complain about the amount of money that society is giving to Beyonce for example?
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Just for the heck of it, I'm gonna try to push this thread into more of a solutions-based conversation than the standard hyperbole and partisan politics-filled insult-fest so common here.
For the sake of the conversation, let's just stipulate that we have a problem (I'd agree, by the way). So rather than the standard partisan back-and-forth, I wonder if anyone on the Left can toss out some specific ideas on how this might be addressed:
Howzabout some civil, mature, thoughtful specifics this time?
- Some kind of law that puts a maximum on salary based on percentages?
- Higher top-end marginal income tax rates?
- Ending stock options as compensation?
- Some combination therein?
Just taking a shot here, not holding my breath.
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It's sad that conservatives believe that the guys who actually do the work at the corporations, the guys who build the cars, who dig the coal, who fly the planes, who serve you breakfast at MacDonalds, are overpaid,
and the guys who sit in the corner offices trying to figure out how many more of the real workers we can get rid of to squeeze another nickel of profit are the ones who are underpaid.
The French government faces a 14bn-euro black hole in its public finances after overestimating tax income for the last financial year.
French President Francois Hollande has raised income tax, VAT and corporation tax since he was elected two years ago.
The Court of Auditors said receipts from all three taxes amounted to an extra 16bn euros in 2013.
That was a little more than half the governments forecast of 30bn euros of extra tax income.
The Court of Auditors, which oversees the governments accounts, said the Elysee Palaces forecasts of tax revenue in 2013 were so wildly inaccurate that they cast doubt on its forecasts for this year.
It added the forecasts were overly optimistic and based on inaccurate projections.
How about this?
Have a corporate policy where the CEO makes no more than 7 times the pay of the lowest paid worker.
It's been tried... and it failed.
Ben & Jerry's ice cream were just two hippies who took the ice cream course at Penn State. They went home to Vermont and converted a gas station into an ice cream shop.
The rest is history.
They got to a point where they were getting so big they had to hire people. But since money wasn't their original objective, they instituted a "Seven times rule". They would make no more than seven times the pay of the floor sweeper.
He still was paid just above minimum wage.
The money was put into the company and Ben & Jerry took home small salaries.
The company got too big for them, so they needed to hire a CEO.
At a salary that was seven times the minimum worker's?
They got no takers at all. So they had to abandon that policy.
They hired a CEO and had to pay him $1,000,000 a year. He lasted 12 months, and accepted an offer someplace else with a much higher salary.
Sigh...
So Ben & Jerry sold the company to Unilever for a pantload of money.
It's sad that conservatives believe that the guys who actually do the work at the corporations, the guys who build the cars, who dig the coal, who fly the planes, who serve you breakfast at MacDonalds, are overpaid,
and the guys who sit in the corner offices trying to figure out how many more of the real workers we can get rid of to squeeze another nickel of profit are the ones who are underpaid.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So what is your plan?
Precisely?
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It's sad that conservatives believe that the guys who actually do the work at the corporations, the guys who build the cars, who dig the coal, who fly the planes, who serve you breakfast at MacDonalds, are overpaid,
and the guys who sit in the corner offices trying to figure out how many more of the real workers we can get rid of to squeeze another nickel of profit are the ones who are underpaid.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So what is your plan?
Precisely?
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My plan is to never vote for anyone who is not the best electable choice for the working people.
How about this?
Have a corporate policy where the CEO makes no more than 7 times the pay of the lowest paid worker.
It's been tried... and it failed.
Ben & Jerry's ice cream were just two hippies who took the ice cream course at Penn State. They went home to Vermont and converted a gas station into an ice cream shop.
The rest is history.
They got to a point where they were getting so big they had to hire people. But since money wasn't their original objective, they instituted a "Seven times rule". They would make no more than seven times the pay of the floor sweeper.
He still was paid just above minimum wage.
The money was put into the company and Ben & Jerry took home small salaries.
The company got too big for them, so they needed to hire a CEO.
At a salary that was seven times the minimum worker's?
They got no takers at all. So they had to abandon that policy.
They hired a CEO and had to pay him $1,000,000 a year. He lasted 12 months, and accepted an offer someplace else with a much higher salary.
Sigh...
So Ben & Jerry sold the company to Unilever for a pantload of money.
