Mexican President: We're not paying for the wall.

[Correll]

With so many great and real examples of what an embarrassment the guy is, why do you need to highlight such a lame one? Why would Trump negotiate with Mexico now? That doesn't even make sense.

Again, you're wrong.....No one expected Trump to go to Mexico to "negotiate" anything.....
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And you libs are attacking him for NOT responding to Nieto's statement. Any response would have been part of a discussion on whether or not they pay.

 

[Correll]

That was Trump being diplomatic.

If elected he will move to deport the illegals. This will outrage Mexico.

Consider that. US deporting illegal aliens from our nation, will outrage Mexico.

Let me explain a few things to you:


WE ALREADY DEPORT CRIMINAL ILLEGALS(and legal ones too btw) in record numbers under Obama. It has not "outraged" Mexico.

Trump is simply bullshitting you when he tells you he will deport criminal illegals...BECAUSE WE ALREADY DO THAT, and this particular promise amounts not to any real change in immigration policy, but rather some comical nonsense about him being able to catch criminals better, so much better that he'd manage to catch all of them his "FIRST HOUR IN OFFICE!".

The guy is a straight up CLOWN counting on gullible chumps like you to get him to the White House.

I've gotten reports from people in law enforcement on how "aggressive" the Feds are in deporting "criminal illegals".


They aren't.


What ever they ARE doing, they could be doing VASTLY more with minimal effort,

and if they expend serious effort?

Oh, as to your partisan blather about how gullible I am?


Fuck you.

 

[Indeependent]

That was Trump being diplomatic.

If elected he will move to deport the illegals. This will outrage Mexico.

Consider that. US deporting illegal aliens from our nation, will outrage Mexico.

Let me explain a few things to you:


WE ALREADY DEPORT CRIMINAL ILLEGALS(and legal ones too btw) in record numbers under Obama. It has not "outraged" Mexico.

Trump is simply bullshitting you when he tells you he will deport criminal illegals...BECAUSE WE ALREADY DO THAT, and this particular promise amounts not to any real change in immigration policy, but rather some comical nonsense about him being able to catch criminals better, so much better that he'd manage to catch all of them his "FIRST HOUR IN OFFICE!".

The guy is a straight up CLOWN counting on gullible chumps like you to get him to the White House.

"CRIMINAL ILLEGALS"...Redundant.
Illegal is illegal.

 

[Correll]

One, the Mexicans are not paying for the wall.

Two, despite Correll's yelling, the manufacturing jobs are not coming back.

Three: Correll fantasized Trump.
Four: Correll idolized Trump.
Five: Correll is in love with Trump.

YOu are a moron.


I support Trump's platform and policies. He convinced me of NOTHING. He came along and took positions I have been waiting to see advanced.


You are an asshole.

 

[Correll]

fucking duh.......offuckingcourse the Mexican president isn't going to say he'll pay for the wal

So the fact that Pena-Nieto openly states that Mexico is NOT going to pay for the wall, CONFIRMS for moronic right wingers that Mexico will pay for the wall as Trump has assured them....Fucked up much??

Which is of course, not at all what he said.


Why are liberals such liars?

 

[Correll]

The Press Isn't Buying It As NY Newspaper Blasts Donald Trump's "Mexican Crap Dance".

Headline says it all.

Says all we need to know about the author.

I'm not the one supporting an Antisemitic, Bigoted, Homophobic, Islamophobic, Misogyistic, Racist....which speaks volumes about you and the Trumpenfucken followers.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I repeat. Simplistic and bumper sticker solutions to complex problems appeals to the undereducated Trump supporters. As Dan Rather said yesterday, Trump's immigration speech was him throwing out red meat to his followers. His own campaign manager admitted today that Trump has no plan as of now, as to how he would deport law abiding undocumented Mexicans, without violating the constitutional probable cause civil right.

Still, there is no reason to get excited. his support melts away by the hour. He has already lost. he can't withdraw now, without being a Palin type quitter, so he will go on spending as little money on the campaign that he can get away with, while he prepares his "stolen election' speech for this November.

 

[nat4900]

1. NOt all remittances come from illegals AND all illegals will not IMMEDIATELY be deported. Thus threatening remittances is real leverage.

I'll just address that fist piece of garbage since the rest of the garbage is too dumb to "merit" a response....

What the above is proposing is for dictator Trump deny SOME Americans their right of what to do with their own money...So, if you're Polish, you can send money back home BUT if you're Mexican, Trump has declared a "cold war" on your country and not only you cannot send money to your relatives in Mexico, but you will have to begin wearing a Mexican flag on your clothing so that Western Union workers can instantly recognize you ............and be "grateful" its not a yellow star.

 

[nat4900]

I think Correll has completely become unhinged.......Let us all hope that this nitwit will not harm himself or others this Nov. 8th.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I think Correll has completely become unhinged.......Let us all hope that this nitwit will not harm himself or others this Nov. 8th.

Correll is unhinged.

He is a racist, yet denies it.

He is a nativist, yet denies it.

He is an ethnocentristt, yet denies it.

Mexico is not pay for a wall, and he hates it.

He hates anyone not like him.

 

[2aguy]

Yes...if Trump becomes President Mexico is going to pay for the wall......

 

[nat4900]

Correll is unhinged.

Let me just add a bit of reality to Correll's statement that Mexico has NO leverage on the US....

Reports are that approximately one million Americans live in Mexico. While it’s hard to verify that number, it’s not hard to imagine that it’s true. Some are working, of course, for U.S., Mexican, or other foreign corporations. You’ll find them in cities like Mexico City, Queretaro, and Monterrey.

And some live in Mexico just part-time…spending winter months in vacation homes where the weather is always warm and the cervezas are always cold.Many Americans in Mexico, however, have moved there to enjoy their retirement years. They live in Mexico full-time and enjoy better weather, a more relaxed lifestyle, and a host of other benefits—including affordable top-quality health care and a much lower overall cost of living.

The most popular retirement destinations for Americans in Mexico

 

[nat4900]

Correll is unhinged.

A second reality about "Mexico has no leverage on us..."


Trade: In 1993, before NAFTA took effect (which it did in January 1994), Mexico bought $41 billion in goods and services from the U.S. and sold $39 Billion worth to the United States. Total: $80 billion. In the first year of NAFTA, the $80 billion increased to $99 billion, a 25 percent increase.

Ten years after NAFTA started, total trade between the U.S. and Mexico was $145 billion — an increase of 55 percent. In 2003, almost twenty years after NAFTA began, total trade with Mexico was $506 billion — half a trillion dollars — which is 632 percent more than 1994.

Here is something that Mr. Trump apparently does not know: U.S.-Mexico trade is unique in the world; there is a "production sharing" program between Mexico and the United States in which,according to the Wilson Center's Mexico Institute, "A full 40 [percent] of the content of U.S. imports from Mexico is actually produced in the United States. ... This means that forty cents of every dollar spent on imports from Mexico comes back to the United States, a quantity ten times greater that the four cents returning for each dollar paid on Chinese imports."

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...no-mr-trump-mexico-is-not-killing-us-on-trade

 

[nat4900]

Yes...if Trump becomes President Mexico is going to pay for the wall......

WOW, THREE fallacies in just one sentence....

• Trump has NO chance of ever becoming president...at least not in this country
• Mexico as a sovereign country would never negotiate with a extortionists
• A 2000 miles' wall is just a ploy to stir up the conservative xenophobia

 

[charwin95]

That was Trump being diplomatic.

If elected he will move to deport the illegals. This will outrage Mexico.

Consider that. US deporting illegal aliens from our nation, will outrage Mexico.

Let me explain a few things to you:


WE ALREADY DEPORT CRIMINAL ILLEGALS(and legal ones too btw) in record numbers under Obama. It has not "outraged" Mexico.

Trump is simply bullshitting you when he tells you he will deport criminal illegals...BECAUSE WE ALREADY DO THAT, and this particular promise amounts not to any real change in immigration policy, but rather some comical nonsense about him being able to catch criminals better, so much better that he'd manage to catch all of them his "FIRST HOUR IN OFFICE!".

The guy is a straight up CLOWN counting on gullible chumps like you to get him to the White House.

This is what I've been telling to these clowns all along....... Every time Trump make a lying speech......... They are all acting like they discovered North America. Like we never deport illegals.

He pissed off his own Hispanic coalition and he also pissed off some of the ICE officers that I know.

 

[charwin95]

Pena-Nieto has every choice.

He will say very publicly, "fuck off."

He can SAY it all he wants but he will STILL pay for the wall.

How Santo Jose?

 

[TooTall]

No it wasn't. It was a success and has blindsided the Clinton campaign twofold.

If by turning off his own bloodthirsty constituency and core supporters is deemed a success...you are right.

Elaborate why his constituency would be bloodthirsty?

The only reason Trump is popular is because he validates the baser instincts of his moronic enablers.

You mean he rejects,your liberal fascism....

Your guy makes a speech about rounding up immigrants, putting them in concentration camps or centers and suspending the constitution, and you use the term fascism to describe his opponents. The dumbing down of America has reached epic proportions with the Trump cult in the lead.

LINK

 

[TooTall]

We can just take the cost out of the tens of millions of dollars we give them every year

Oh yea and how much is 20-30 billion upfront cost (though there is also increased ongoing cost) divided by "take out of tens of millions?"

The tens of millions is an annual number so we could easily pay to secure the border with the money we piss away to Mexico

It is still our own money. Just because we stop giving aid to Mexico doesn't mean the money is Mexico's. You are proposing we pay for the wall ourselves, with our own money.

It's our border so yes we just don't give the money to Mexico.

So we reclaim wasted money to use for our own purposes
We could always place a tariff on any products from Mexico if you like

Most foreign aid comes right back in the form of purchases of American products and services, no matter which country is getting the aid.

The U.S. goods trade deficit with Mexico was $58 billion in 2015. That means we bought $58 billion more from them than they ought from us.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If by turning off his own bloodthirsty constituency and core supporters is deemed a success...you are right.

Elaborate why his constituency would be bloodthirsty?

The only reason Trump is popular is because he validates the baser instincts of his moronic enablers.

You mean he rejects,your liberal fascism....

Your guy makes a speech about rounding up immigrants, putting them in concentration camps or centers and suspending the constitution, and you use the term fascism to describe his opponents. The dumbing down of America has reached epic proportions with the Trump cult in the lead.

LINK

Common knowledge, podjo, on this board. If you don't know it, you are not caught up. If you do know it, you are guilty of lack of integrity.

Only a bozo thinks an American president can make Mexico pay for a border wall.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Oh yea and how much is 20-30 billion upfront cost (though there is also increased ongoing cost) divided by "take out of tens of millions?"

The tens of millions is an annual number so we could easily pay to secure the border with the money we piss away to Mexico

It is still our own money. Just because we stop giving aid to Mexico doesn't mean the money is Mexico's. You are proposing we pay for the wall ourselves, with our own money.

It's our border so yes we just don't give the money to Mexico.

So we reclaim wasted money to use for our own purposes
We could always place a tariff on any products from Mexico if you like

Most foreign aid comes right back in the form of purchases of American products and services, no matter which country is getting the aid.

The U.S. goods trade deficit with Mexico was $58 billion in 2015. That means we bought $58 billion more from them than they ought from us.

LINK See how that works? You get what you give.