Michael Cohen office raided by FBI

[radical right]

Put simply, Your lawyer can't enter a contract that obligates you, without you agreeing to it. He can't buy you a vacation time-share, even if he pays for it.

But he can make you an intended third-party beneficiary, which would give you standing.

NOPE. That would be binding you to an agreement you had no part of. The NDA required DD to take specific actions under the NDA, which were binding.

Since Trump didn't sign it or pay for it, he can't be bound by the NDA, and he has no standing to enforce the NDA, the NDA is void.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

That's where the FBI search warrant comes in If they find any communication between Trumps lawyer and Trump about the NDA or the $130,000 payment, then Trump is implicated.

In WHAT CRIME?

And since that would be part of a criminal conspiracy, you already admitted Cohen is going DOWN, that would pierce the attorney client privilege.

You need to go back to law school.

As Trump said, "Comey better hope there are no tapes." Well Trump better hope there are no e-mails.

Saying what?
"Cohen, pay that bitch to shut the fuck up."

"Sure thing, Trumpy old pal. Consider it a campaign contribution."

"Done. Do it."

Like that?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

NOPE. That would be binding you to an agreement you had no part of. The NDA required DD to take specific actions under the NDA, which were binding.

Go back to law school.

 

[radical right]

IN the payment? Simple, it could be That trump evaded campaign finance laws by asking Cohen to do it.

Asking his lawyer to pay on a contract? Which campaign finance law is he violating?

McCain Feingold

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

IN the payment? Simple, it could be That trump evaded campaign finance laws by asking Cohen to do it.

Asking his lawyer to pay on a contract? Which campaign finance law is he violating?

McCain Feingold

Be specific. What part of McCain-Feingold are you saying Trump has violated?

 

[radical right]

Saying what?
"Cohen, pay that bitch to shut the fuck up."

"Sure thing, Trumpy old pal. Consider it a campaign contribution."

"Done. Do it."

Like that?

The FEC considers it an in kind campaign contribution. Even if Trump and Cohen do not.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The FEC considers it an in kind campaign contribution. Even if Trump and Cohen do not.

Yes. We have established that part. But, both Cohen and Trump say that Cohen acted alone. It would be on Cohen, not Trump, right?

 

[radical right]

IN the payment? Simple, it could be That trump evaded campaign finance laws by asking Cohen to do it.

Asking his lawyer to pay on a contract? Which campaign finance law is he violating?

McCain Feingold

Be specific. What part of McCain-Feingold are you saying Trump has violated?

McCain-Feingold incumbency guarantee act.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

McCain-Feingold incumbency guarantee act.

Which says??

 

[radical right]

NOPE. That would be binding you to an agreement you had no part of. The NDA required DD to take specific actions under the NDA, which were binding.

Go back to law school.

To be binding a contract needs
1) Mutual assent
2) Consideration
3) Competence
4) Legality

If Trump knew nothing about it, there was no mutual assent. Contract VOID.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

To be binding a contract needs
1) Mutual assent
2) Consideration
3) Competence
4) Legality

If Trump knew nothing about it, there was no mutual assent. Contract VOID.

Third-party beneficiary - Wikipedia

 

[oreo]

It prohibits lawyers from financing costs of litigation on behalf of a client, but when a client pays a huge retainer and money is held in trust for payment of any and all future legal fees and expenses, to be used at the lawyer's discretion, there is no ethics violation.

It's an ethics violation for the lawyer not to tell his client what he spent the money on. Or what deals he's making on behalf of the client. Michael Cohen had to tell Trump what he did with the $130,000, and he didn't. Michael Cohen had to tell Trump about the NDA, and he didn't.

Ethics violation, ethics violation.

First, you are making up this "ethics violation" and second who says he paid the money of behalf of Trump rather than on his own behalf because he wanted Trump to become President?

The entire point is that Mueller found something on his investigation related to Michael Cohen. He then handed it over to Rod Rosenstein. Rosenstein then handed it over the Southern District FBI in New York to investigate and prosecute.

The FBI would have had to convince a Federal District court judge that a no knock search warrant was necessary which produced the raid on Cohen's office, residence and the hotel room he was staying.

That in itself suggests that a crime happened--and it's got Micheal Cohen's name on it. It also could be a ploy by Robert Mueller. Trump cannot pardon Cohen on a state crime, and it might force Cohen, like several others have done, to work with Robert Mueller on the Russian investigation--and do a plea deal.

We'll see--but right now it looks like it is bank or wire fraud. Cohen may have used campaign donations to pay off Stormy Daniels. He may be involved in money laundering and also setting up shell corporations for Trump.

But this definitely shows that Robert Mueller and Rod Rosenstein have cahone's & are not in the least bit intimidated by Donald Trump.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

This shows that Robert Mueller and Rod Rosenstein have cahone's & are not in the least intimidated by Donald Trump.

Or desperate.

 

[radical right]

Third-party beneficiary - Wikipedia

Object to benefit
For third-party rights to come into existence, certain contractual criteria must be met to show an object to benefit:

• Some intimation to the third party of the contract's existence

Acceptance
A third-party beneficiary only acquires a right of action to enforce his benefit once he has accepted the benefit provided for in the contract.

Damn.... you just threw Trump under the bus. As a third party contract, Trump had to accept the benefit, which means Trump is guilty of the FEC violation.

I'm glad you posted the wikipedia article. Thanks...

 

[Witchit]

1300+ posts.

Michael Cohen office raided by FBI

 

[Reasonable]

Mueller was picked for the job because of his outstanding service to the country and everyone on Capital Hill respected him and his integrity.

No one has ever accused DT of having integrity yet the Trumpbots concoct all sorts of warped conspiracy theories about Bob Mueller in order to defend their fuhrer.

The cult doesn’t individually think, it’s more like group- think. Defend him no matter what he does.
There were at least 50 things Trump did during
the campaign that if any other candidate did ANY of them, they would be unelectable and have to step down.
That’s abominable.

Michael Cohen isn’t really a lawyer, he’s more of a fixer, not unlike Ray Donovan. No matter what horrendous thing Trump has done during the time Cohen has worked for him he continues to do whatever it takes to defend his lawless, corrupt and unethical behavior. To continue defending someone like a Donald Trump who cheated his way to the top defrauding small businessmen clearly shows Cohen is just as dishonorable as the serial sex offender himself.

 

[radical right]

As a third party contract, Trump accepted the benefit of the $130,000 agreement in order to be able to enforce it.
Accepting the $130,000 benefit is an FEC violation.

Trump is going down with Cohen.

Trump has to either accept the NDA is DOA, or the NDA violates the FEC.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Third-party beneficiary - Wikipedia

Object to benefit
For third-party rights to come into existence, certain contractual criteria must be met to show an object to benefit:

• Some intimation to the third party of the contract's existence

Acceptance
A third-party beneficiary only acquires a right of action to enforce his benefit once he has accepted the benefit provided for in the contract.

Damn.... you just threw Trump under the bus. As a third party contract, Trump had to accept the benefit, which means Trump is guilty of the FEC violation.

I'm glad you posted the wikipedia article. Thanks...

How is Trump's acceptance of Stormy's performance under the terms of her contract with Cohen a FEC violation by Trump?

You're mixing laws.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

As a third party contract, Trump accepted the benefit of the $130,000 agreement in order to be able to enforce it.
Accepting the $130,000 benefit is an FEC violation.

Trump is going down with Cohen.

Trump accepted the benefit of Stormy's silence, even if he didn't know about the contract at the time it was entered. He can't break FEC after the election is over.

 

[fncceo]

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