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You're arguing with your own strawman as I've never contended that some people weren't denied. It's irrelevant, tbh. You take one anecdotal instance and assume it applies to the whole system. Mistakes are made on both sides of the issue.Then here's the same quote from the miami herald.
You can't ignore an official organ
Bill Nelson to Rick Scott: Your noncitizen "purge" is a "concern ...
miamiherald.typepad.com › nakedpolitics › 2012/05
May 29, 2012 - In the 2000 Florida election, at least 1,100 eligible voters were wrongly dropped from voting rolls in an attempt to purge a list of felons. Many of ...
You twice dismissed the quote that Senator Nelson found 1,100 legal votes purged from the florida voter rolls.You're arguing with your own strawman as I've never contended that some people weren't denied. It's irrelevant, tbh. You take one anecdotal instance and assume it applies to the whole system. Mistakes are made on both sides of the issue.Then here's the same quote from the miami herald.
You can't ignore an official organ
Bill Nelson to Rick Scott: Your noncitizen "purge" is a "concern ...
miamiherald.typepad.com › nakedpolitics › 2012/05
May 29, 2012 - In the 2000 Florida election, at least 1,100 eligible voters were wrongly dropped from voting rolls in an attempt to purge a list of felons. Many of ...
In the end, voting in person with a valid ID is the most secure method. I know it, you know it.
That is correct. However similar arguments can be made for several different kinds of situations. Paying cash is more secure than Credit for example. Matters of convenience, safety and accessibility also play a factorYou're arguing with your own strawman as I've never contended that some people weren't denied. It's irrelevant, tbh. You take one anecdotal instance and assume it applies to the whole system. Mistakes are made on both sides of the issue.Then here's the same quote from the miami herald.
You can't ignore an official organ
Bill Nelson to Rick Scott: Your noncitizen "purge" is a "concern ...
miamiherald.typepad.com › nakedpolitics › 2012/05
May 29, 2012 - In the 2000 Florida election, at least 1,100 eligible voters were wrongly dropped from voting rolls in an attempt to purge a list of felons. Many of ...
In the end, voting in person with a valid ID is the most secure method. I know it, you know it.
There's not enough time to make it secure by November.I agree, each state and county control their elections. They will need to determine what they can and can’t handle. Sounds like that’s what they are trying to do despite Trumps incessant attacks and attempts to derail. How about he try and help make it as safe and secure as possible instead of lighting all these political fires
IOW, it's just a difference of opinion. All the more reason not to make rash decisions on the parameters of the voting process this close to a pivotal election.That is correct. However similar arguments can be made for several different kinds of situations. Paying cash is more secure than Credit for example. Matters of convenience, safety and accessibility also play a factor
All it takes to mail a letter securely is a 55 cent stamp. The post office actually photographs every letter and package they receive. What is more secure than having a record of every letter. They can even show you what mail is due to be delivered, before it is delivered.There's not enough time to make it secure by November.
It's a massive undertaking to securely mail out hundreds of millions of ballots and properly verify the chain of custody of each one.
If the democrats had any faith in their candidates, this wouldn't be an issue.
As it stands, it just illustrates their false bravado and desperation.
I haven't dismissed anything.You twice dismissed the quote that Senator Nelson found 1,100 legal votes purged from the florida voter rolls.
Found and committed are two different numbers. Since you have no clue what the latter number is, your point is built upon conjecture and thus invalid.That's many times the number of illegal votes ever found in florida for the last century.
Incorrect. Stamped mail goes missing every day. It's also delivered to the wrong address.All it takes to mail a letter securely is a 55 cent stamp.
Irrelevant.The post office actually photographs every letter and package they receive.
Is that a question? If so, voting in person with a government issued photo ID is far more secure.What is more secure than having a record of every letter.
I've had the system say something was delivered when it wasn't many times. I'm not the only one:They can even show you what mail is due to be delivered, before it is delivered.
It sure looked like it.I haven't dismissed anything.
Linky no worky.
At least it doesn't go to your quote. Next.
Link !!!!Incorrect. Stamped mail goes missing every day.All it takes to mail a letter securely is a 55 cent stamp.
Shows the system works
You posting a bad link is not me dismissing anything, it's just you failing to bring your point to the table.
You posting a bad link is not me dismissing anything, it's just you failing to bring your point to the table.
Using your tactics. If you can't give me a number, then your claim is completely baseless.No one knows, but it does happen. Do you deny that mail gets lost and misdelivered?Link !!!!
The post office does 150 million pieces a day. How many of those go missing
I'm not making any claim. Pay attention. If you don't know how many weren't caught, your equation is garbage.Using your tactics. If you can't give me a number, then your claim is completely baseless.
What are you talking about? each state and county handle their own elections. It’s not like all the ballots go to one place. You did know that right?There's not enough time to make it secure by November.I agree, each state and county control their elections. They will need to determine what they can and can’t handle. Sounds like that’s what they are trying to do despite Trumps incessant attacks and attempts to derail. How about he try and help make it as safe and secure as possible instead of lighting all these political fires
It's a massive undertaking to securely mail out hundreds of millions of ballots and properly verify the chain of custody of each one.
If the democrats had any faith in their candidates, this wouldn't be an issue.
As it stands, it just illustrates their false bravado and desperation.
Of course mail gets lost, sent to the wrong address, ballots get dismissed for late delivery and lack of signatures etc etc. Its more of a risk and chance of error. Voters have to right to take those risks or go vote in person and not risk it. Or drop the ballot off at a drop site. Many options you seeNo one knows, but it does happen. Do you deny that mail gets lost and misdelivered?Link !!!!
The post office does 150 million pieces a day. How many of those go missing
Why are the democrats asking for billions in extra federal funding for something handled on the state and local level?What are you talking about? each state and county handle their own elections. It’s not like all the ballots go to one place. You did know that right?
Agreed. Systems for mail in ballots already exist. No need to change a thing.Of course mail gets lost, sent to the wrong address, ballots get dismissed for late delivery and lack of signatures etc etc. Its more of a risk and chance of error. Voters have to right to take those risks or go vote in person and not risk it. Or drop the ballot off at a drop site. Many options you see
