Millions could lose access to food stamps under Trump proposal, study finds

[Ame®icano]

No we don't. Where does Tariffs fit into Capitalism? Where do bail outs fit into Capitalism? Where does anything the Fed does fit into Capitalism?

There's already a term for it....crony capitalism.

Tariffs would not be necessary if the other side plays fair game.

Bailouts didn't come from conservatives, who also would like to end the Fed.

Trumps Tariffs are making consumer goods more expensive

Consumers price index shows otherwise.

 

[pknopp]

Where do you live?

So you limit a living wage on where you live? Seems to me if you choose to living in a rural area you should get as much as a person that lives in a big city. Letting government set a living wage can be arbitrary at best. That would leave the most vulnerable to political games.

It is their employers problem

If you do business in a low cost area, you can pay a low cost wage
If you do business in an expensive area, you pay a wage where your employees can survive without taxpayer assistance

So then what is a “living wage”? If states and the feds set the wage and employers pay the wage, how can you blame the employers? Seems the government is the failure in this.

They are your employees
YOU feed and house them without taxpayers subsidizing your profit margin

There you go again....

The poor can train for better jobs. With over 30 million poor, is every one of them able to train for better jobs?
Are there 30 million unfilled better jobs out there?

/----/ "The poor can train for better jobs. "
Besides your pizz poor, defeatist attitude what is stopping them?

He stated what is stopping them. You understand what is stopping them. You have no answer to what is stopping them so you are stuck repeating the same thing over and over again.

/----/ Nothing is stopping them.
Adult Services, Employment & Training Administration (ETA) - U.S. Department of Labor

Nothing is stopping them from training other than perhaps an ability to pay for it but a lack of those kinds of jobs stop the overwhelming vast majority from getting one. Then if you have 1 million with the training and 10,000 jobs available the pay in those jobs fall.

But you know this.

The Healthcare industry is in need of workers, transportation companies need drivers. There is a big void to fill in many industries. In fact we currently need more workers than there are available jobs.

Millions of them?

 

[pknopp]

Barry is not exactly the conservative.

Not at all and that's the point. Obama used bailout money to reward businesses that would play ball with the left
and withhold it from those who would not regardless of whether they "deserved" their money or not.

I agree with your first point but who did he withhold money from?

 

[pknopp]

In a "free market" there is no such thing as "fair". You either decide to trade or not.

That is a VAST oversimplification. Addressing China’s Trade Practices

I'm not much interested in the subject but when it comes to the issue of fair trade
you make me look like Adam Smith.

Free trade......that is what many argue. Fair trade entirely depends on where you are sitting.

 

[Papageorgio]

So you limit a living wage on where you live? Seems to me if you choose to living in a rural area you should get as much as a person that lives in a big city. Letting government set a living wage can be arbitrary at best. That would leave the most vulnerable to political games.

It is their employers problem

If you do business in a low cost area, you can pay a low cost wage
If you do business in an expensive area, you pay a wage where your employees can survive without taxpayer assistance

So then what is a “living wage”? If states and the feds set the wage and employers pay the wage, how can you blame the employers? Seems the government is the failure in this.

They are your employees
YOU feed and house them without taxpayers subsidizing your profit margin

/----/ "The poor can train for better jobs. "
Besides your pizz poor, defeatist attitude what is stopping them?

He stated what is stopping them. You understand what is stopping them. You have no answer to what is stopping them so you are stuck repeating the same thing over and over again.

/----/ Nothing is stopping them.
Adult Services, Employment & Training Administration (ETA) - U.S. Department of Labor

Nothing is stopping them from training other than perhaps an ability to pay for it but a lack of those kinds of jobs stop the overwhelming vast majority from getting one. Then if you have 1 million with the training and 10,000 jobs available the pay in those jobs fall.

But you know this.

The Healthcare industry is in need of workers, transportation companies need drivers. There is a big void to fill in many industries. In fact we currently need more workers than there are available jobs.

Millions of them?

There are more jobs than workers for the first time in decades. Truck driver shortage is at 900,000, healthcare worker shortage is at 2,300,000.

These are the industries with the biggest labor shortages

 

[Papageorgio]

I remember in the 90's the Democrats cried that Republicans new school lunch program would leave millions of children staring. It didn't happen. I doubt that the new rules would leave anyone starving. It just more fear mongering.

 

[pknopp]

It is their employers problem

If you do business in a low cost area, you can pay a low cost wage
If you do business in an expensive area, you pay a wage where your employees can survive without taxpayer assistance

So then what is a “living wage”? If states and the feds set the wage and employers pay the wage, how can you blame the employers? Seems the government is the failure in this.

They are your employees
YOU feed and house them without taxpayers subsidizing your profit margin

He stated what is stopping them. You understand what is stopping them. You have no answer to what is stopping them so you are stuck repeating the same thing over and over again.

/----/ Nothing is stopping them.
Adult Services, Employment & Training Administration (ETA) - U.S. Department of Labor

Nothing is stopping them from training other than perhaps an ability to pay for it but a lack of those kinds of jobs stop the overwhelming vast majority from getting one. Then if you have 1 million with the training and 10,000 jobs available the pay in those jobs fall.

But you know this.

The Healthcare industry is in need of workers, transportation companies need drivers. There is a big void to fill in many industries. In fact we currently need more workers than there are available jobs.

Millions of them?

There are more jobs than workers for the first time in decades. Truck driver shortage is at 900,000, healthcare worker shortage is at 2,300,000.

These are the industries with the biggest labor shortages

Why is this happening? A big reason, they say, is automation has moved slower than predicted. Robots haven't successfully replaced the cashiers, tellers and customer-service reps that interact with customers, and technology to fully automate activities like driving still seems far away.

Outside of driving, those are low pay jobs.

 

[Papageorgio]

So then what is a “living wage”? If states and the feds set the wage and employers pay the wage, how can you blame the employers? Seems the government is the failure in this.

They are your employees
YOU feed and house them without taxpayers subsidizing your profit margin

/----/ Nothing is stopping them.
Adult Services, Employment & Training Administration (ETA) - U.S. Department of Labor

Nothing is stopping them from training other than perhaps an ability to pay for it but a lack of those kinds of jobs stop the overwhelming vast majority from getting one. Then if you have 1 million with the training and 10,000 jobs available the pay in those jobs fall.

But you know this.

The Healthcare industry is in need of workers, transportation companies need drivers. There is a big void to fill in many industries. In fact we currently need more workers than there are available jobs.

Millions of them?

There are more jobs than workers for the first time in decades. Truck driver shortage is at 900,000, healthcare worker shortage is at 2,300,000.

These are the industries with the biggest labor shortages

Why is this happening? A big reason, they say, is automation has moved slower than predicted. Robots haven't successfully replaced the cashiers, tellers and customer-service reps that interact with customers, and technology to fully automate activities like driving still seems far away.

Outside of driving, those are low pay jobs.

Believe what you need to.

 

[irosie91]

I do not believe that food stamps will be cut

 

[Ame®icano]

Barry is not exactly the conservative.

Not at all and that's the point. Obama used bailout money to reward businesses that would play ball with the left
and withhold it from those who would not regardless of whether they "deserved" their money or not.

My point is that no conservative voted for bailout or stimulus package.

When we're talking about picking winners and losers, interfering with free trade, bailouts, unnecessary regulations, price control, etc. it all comes from the left. And when it doesn't work as they planned and bite them in the ass, they all claim how capitalism doesn't work and it needs more "fixing".

 

[rightwinger]

Barry is not exactly the conservative.

Not at all and that's the point. Obama used bailout money to reward businesses that would play ball with the left
and withhold it from those who would not regardless of whether they "deserved" their money or not.

My point is that no conservative voted for bailout or stimulus package.

When we're talking about picking winners and losers, interfering with free trade, bailouts, unnecessary regulations, price control, etc. it all comes from the left. And when it doesn't work as they planned and bite them in the ass, they all claim how capitalism doesn't work and it needs more "fixing".

Very true

Republicans sold out the American people because they wanted the economy to fail and make Obama a one term president

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

My point is that no conservative voted for bailout or stimulus package.

When we're talking about picking winners and losers, interfering with free trade, bailouts, unnecessary regulations, price control, etc. it all comes from the left. And when it doesn't work as they planned and bite them in the ass, they all claim how capitalism doesn't work and it needs more "fixing".

I couldn't agree more. And my citation on the matter indicates we still haven't been fully repaid yet for all the billions Obama shoveled out the door of the Treasury in an orgy of spending and massive excess.

Capitalism is not to blame here. It's ideologues on the left who game the system for their own personal benefit.

 

[Questioner]

Millions could lose access to food stamps under Trump proposal, study finds

Millions of Americans face losing access to food assistance under proposed rule changes by the Trump administration, a new analysis has found.

The changes, if they had been instituted last year, would have resulted in 3.7 million fewer people and 2.1m fewer households receiving the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, known as Snap or food stamps, during an average month, according to the study.

The altered rules would also reduce benefits received by many people, with 2.2m households set to have their average monthly assistance cut by $127. Nearly one million students would lose access to free or discounted lunches.

The poor are an easy target for Cons. Typical bonehead politics.

What is the change?

I recall in the past, there was a proposal to ban "junk food" purchases with food stamps, but it never succeeded. Oddly some of the junk food and fast food corporations apparently didn't like this.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Very true

Republicans sold out the American people because they wanted the economy to fail and make Obama a one term president

Thanks for the news report and the view from the Bizzaro universe.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Millions have already gotten a job and started paying for their own food.

A.) There are a lot of people who have physical, and mental disabilities on Food Stamps. People with debilitating disabilities with maimed limbs, Blindness, Deafness, Down Syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis, Lou Gehrig Disease, Schizophrenia, Bi Polar Disorder, severe Diabetes, among others.

B.) There are people who do work, and still need Food Stamps, that's the unfortunate part about the job force paying Minimum Wage, and paying people for Part Time work, more and more.

 

[sparky]

Back when i was a wee lad, there were 'poor farms' , every town seems to have one lurking out on some back road. If one was down/out, unemployed, or needed to dry out, that;s where one ended up 'earning one's keep' per se'

~S~

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The right wing is all for helping the Rich at the expense of the Poor.

The poor fell further behind under Obama also.

Haha, because W. Bush didn't tank the economy, Obama must've.
That must be it.

 

[sparky]

A.) There are a lot of people who have physical, and mental disabilities on Food Stamps. People with debilitating disabilities with maimed limbs, Blindness, Deafness, Down Syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis, Lou Gehrig Disease, Schizophrenia, Bi Polar Disorder, severe Diabetes, among others.

don't forget>>>

~S~

 

[rightwinger]

Very true

Republicans sold out the American people because they wanted the economy to fail and make Obama a one term president

Thanks for the news report and the view from the Bizzaro universe.

If the Republicans did not want the economy to fail under Obama, why did they vote for TARP and auto bailouts under Bush and not a single Republican voted for them under Obama?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Millions could lose access to food stamps under Trump proposal, study finds

Millions of Americans face losing access to food assistance under proposed rule changes by the Trump administration, a new analysis has found.

The changes, if they had been instituted last year, would have resulted in 3.7 million fewer people and 2.1m fewer households receiving the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, known as Snap or food stamps, during an average month, according to the study.

The altered rules would also reduce benefits received by many people, with 2.2m households set to have their average monthly assistance cut by $127. Nearly one million students would lose access to free or discounted lunches.

The poor are an easy target for Cons. Typical bonehead politics.

Able bodied adults should not get free food from the government

So, people who work at Walmart, and get food stamps aren't able bodied adults?