Millions Evacuated After Catastrophic Flooding Hits China, Pakistan

[daws101]

Water Vapor Confirmed as Major Player in Climate Change
11.17.08

The distribution of atmospheric water vapor, a significant greenhouse gas, varies across the globe. During the summer and fall of 2005, this visualization shows that most vapor collects at tropical latitudes, particularly over south Asia, where monsoon thunderstorms swept the gas some 2 miles above the land.
Credit: NASA
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Water vapor is known to be Earth’s most abundant greenhouse gas, but the extent of its contribution to global warming has been debated. Using recent NASA satellite data, researchers have estimated more precisely than ever the heat-trapping effect of water in the air, validating the role of the gas as a critical component of climate change.

Andrew Dessler and colleagues from Texas A&M University in College Station confirmed that the heat-amplifying effect of water vapor is potent enough to double the climate warming caused by increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

With new observations, the scientists confirmed experimentally what existing climate models had anticipated theoretically. The research team used novel data from the Atmospheric Infrared Sounder (AIRS) on NASA’s Aqua satellite to measure precisely the humidity throughout the lowest 10 miles of the atmosphere. That information was combined with global observations of shifts in temperature, allowing researchers to build a comprehensive picture of the interplay between water vapor, carbon dioxide, and other atmosphere-warming gases. The NASA-funded research was published recently in the American Geophysical Union's Geophysical Research Letters.

NASA - Water Vapor Confirmed as Major Player in Climate Change

curious, what causes humidity?

if you don't know that, then maybe you are in the wrong thread .
btw

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TO Funny!

The magical secret hand shake that not even NASA can prove and the earth shows, by observed empirical evidence, does not exist...

then you woke up.

 

[Old Rocks]

"Increased “extreme weather events” caused by man-made global warming are an alarmist myth, a study shows. In fact, contradicting claims by the Royal Society, the National Academy of Sciences and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, there was more “extreme weather” in the first half of the 20th Century than the second half."



‘Extreme Weather Events’: Another Alarmist Myth


'Extreme Weather Events': Another Alarmist Myth

Climatologist Debunks 'Extreme Weather' Myth, Says Current Weather is 'Business as Usual'


Of all the AGW alarmist hysteria out there, the "extreme weather" is the most laughable. Anybody who bothers to take a close look at this "extreme weather" garbage quickly realizes they are being duped. In fact, when the alarmists started this nonsense a few years ago, that is what ultimately brought me into this forum...the fake shit was just getting too absurd.

'Extreme Weather Events': Another Alarmist Myth

Kelly drily concludes that from an engineering point of view (his particular field of expertise), making exaggerated and misleading claims about increasing climate disaster makes no economic sense.

Over-adaptation that is not needed leaves clients free to sue advisors if the problems have been oversold and the costs of protection prove to have been excessive, even on a 20-year basis.

Unsurprisingly, Kelly reports that he had great difficulty getting his study published in any of the mainstream scientific journals, none of which welcomed this rejection of the fashionable “extreme weather” orthodoxy.

LOL. Can't get his 'study' published in a real journal. In other words, not up to snuff as a scientific study.

 

[Old Rocks]

"Increased “extreme weather events” caused by man-made global warming are an alarmist myth, a study shows. In fact, contradicting claims by the Royal Society, the National Academy of Sciences and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, there was more “extreme weather” in the first half of the 20th Century than the second half."



‘Extreme Weather Events’: Another Alarmist Myth


'Extreme Weather Events': Another Alarmist Myth

Climatologist Debunks 'Extreme Weather' Myth, Says Current Weather is 'Business as Usual'


Of all the AGW alarmist hysteria out there, the "extreme weather" is the most laughable. Anybody who bothers to take a close look at this "extreme weather" garbage quickly realizes they are being duped. In fact, when the alarmists started this nonsense a few years ago, that is what ultimately brought me into this forum...the fake shit was just getting too absurd.

Climate Models and Climate Reality: A Closer Look at a Lukewarming World

While myriad explanations for the apparent model/observations discord have been forwarded in the scientific literature, a most-compelling one is that the earth’s equilibrium climate sensitivity — how much the earth’s average surface temperature will rise with a doubling of the atmospheric concentration of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide — is substantially lower than the value characteristic of the climate model collective. Evidence that the climate sensitivity lies towards the lower end of the range of possibilities given by consensus of mainstream science has been growing in recent years.

In this paper, we examine the data indicating a less-than-expected warming and a poor correspondence between climate model expectations and real-world observations. Further, we review the recent scientific findings in support of a low climate sensitivity. Based upon these and other lines of evidence (laid out in our numerous scientific publications, books, blogs articles, social media), we conclude that future global warming will occur at a pace substantially lower than that upon which US federal and international actions to restrict greenhouse gas emissions are founded.

OK, so Dr. Michaels is a lukewarmer, and works for the Cato Institute, an extreme right wing nut outfit. Were he to say anything else, he would lose his job, for certain.

 

[jc456]

"Increased “extreme weather events” caused by man-made global warming are an alarmist myth, a study shows. In fact, contradicting claims by the Royal Society, the National Academy of Sciences and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, there was more “extreme weather” in the first half of the 20th Century than the second half."



‘Extreme Weather Events’: Another Alarmist Myth


'Extreme Weather Events': Another Alarmist Myth

Climatologist Debunks 'Extreme Weather' Myth, Says Current Weather is 'Business as Usual'


Of all the AGW alarmist hysteria out there, the "extreme weather" is the most laughable. Anybody who bothers to take a close look at this "extreme weather" garbage quickly realizes they are being duped. In fact, when the alarmists started this nonsense a few years ago, that is what ultimately brought me into this forum...the fake shit was just getting too absurd.

Climate Models and Climate Reality: A Closer Look at a Lukewarming World

While myriad explanations for the apparent model/observations discord have been forwarded in the scientific literature, a most-compelling one is that the earth’s equilibrium climate sensitivity — how much the earth’s average surface temperature will rise with a doubling of the atmospheric concentration of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide — is substantially lower than the value characteristic of the climate model collective. Evidence that the climate sensitivity lies towards the lower end of the range of possibilities given by consensus of mainstream science has been growing in recent years.

In this paper, we examine the data indicating a less-than-expected warming and a poor correspondence between climate model expectations and real-world observations. Further, we review the recent scientific findings in support of a low climate sensitivity. Based upon these and other lines of evidence (laid out in our numerous scientific publications, books, blogs articles, social media), we conclude that future global warming will occur at a pace substantially lower than that upon which US federal and international actions to restrict greenhouse gas emissions are founded.

OK, so Dr. Michaels is a lukewarmer, and works for the Cato Institute, an extreme right wing nut outfit. Were he to say anything else, he would lose his job, for certain.

what does this have to do with catastrophic flooding as per the OP?

 

[daws101]

"Increased “extreme weather events” caused by man-made global warming are an alarmist myth, a study shows. In fact, contradicting claims by the Royal Society, the National Academy of Sciences and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, there was more “extreme weather” in the first half of the 20th Century than the second half."



‘Extreme Weather Events’: Another Alarmist Myth


'Extreme Weather Events': Another Alarmist Myth

Climatologist Debunks 'Extreme Weather' Myth, Says Current Weather is 'Business as Usual'


Of all the AGW alarmist hysteria out there, the "extreme weather" is the most laughable. Anybody who bothers to take a close look at this "extreme weather" garbage quickly realizes they are being duped. In fact, when the alarmists started this nonsense a few years ago, that is what ultimately brought me into this forum...the fake shit was just getting too absurd.

Climate Models and Climate Reality: A Closer Look at a Lukewarming World

While myriad explanations for the apparent model/observations discord have been forwarded in the scientific literature, a most-compelling one is that the earth’s equilibrium climate sensitivity — how much the earth’s average surface temperature will rise with a doubling of the atmospheric concentration of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide — is substantially lower than the value characteristic of the climate model collective. Evidence that the climate sensitivity lies towards the lower end of the range of possibilities given by consensus of mainstream science has been growing in recent years.

In this paper, we examine the data indicating a less-than-expected warming and a poor correspondence between climate model expectations and real-world observations. Further, we review the recent scientific findings in support of a low climate sensitivity. Based upon these and other lines of evidence (laid out in our numerous scientific publications, books, blogs articles, social media), we conclude that future global warming will occur at a pace substantially lower than that upon which US federal and international actions to restrict greenhouse gas emissions are founded.

OK, so Dr. Michaels is a lukewarmer, and works for the Cato Institute, an extreme right wing nut outfit. Were he to say anything else, he would lose his job, for certain.

what does this have to do with catastrophic flooding as per the OP?

Everything.

 

[jc456]

"Increased “extreme weather events” caused by man-made global warming are an alarmist myth, a study shows. In fact, contradicting claims by the Royal Society, the National Academy of Sciences and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, there was more “extreme weather” in the first half of the 20th Century than the second half."



‘Extreme Weather Events’: Another Alarmist Myth


'Extreme Weather Events': Another Alarmist Myth

Climatologist Debunks 'Extreme Weather' Myth, Says Current Weather is 'Business as Usual'


Of all the AGW alarmist hysteria out there, the "extreme weather" is the most laughable. Anybody who bothers to take a close look at this "extreme weather" garbage quickly realizes they are being duped. In fact, when the alarmists started this nonsense a few years ago, that is what ultimately brought me into this forum...the fake shit was just getting too absurd.

Climate Models and Climate Reality: A Closer Look at a Lukewarming World

While myriad explanations for the apparent model/observations discord have been forwarded in the scientific literature, a most-compelling one is that the earth’s equilibrium climate sensitivity — how much the earth’s average surface temperature will rise with a doubling of the atmospheric concentration of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide — is substantially lower than the value characteristic of the climate model collective. Evidence that the climate sensitivity lies towards the lower end of the range of possibilities given by consensus of mainstream science has been growing in recent years.

In this paper, we examine the data indicating a less-than-expected warming and a poor correspondence between climate model expectations and real-world observations. Further, we review the recent scientific findings in support of a low climate sensitivity. Based upon these and other lines of evidence (laid out in our numerous scientific publications, books, blogs articles, social media), we conclude that future global warming will occur at a pace substantially lower than that upon which US federal and international actions to restrict greenhouse gas emissions are founded.

OK, so Dr. Michaels is a lukewarmer, and works for the Cato Institute, an extreme right wing nut outfit. Were he to say anything else, he would lose his job, for certain.

what does this have to do with catastrophic flooding as per the OP?

Everything.

how? I swear I read on how the earth water supply is getting low. You got something else?

Earth’s Dwindling Water Supply

"Where is the Water?
When viewed from space, Earth is a magnificent blue planetary gem that appears to have a limitless supply of water. Indeed, at least 70% of its surface is covered by water.

But most is salt water, located largely in the oceans and seas. Only 3% of all the water is freshwater, safe for drinking—and most of this is unavailable for human use. Roughly a full three quarters of all freshwater is part of the frozen and largely uninhabited ice caps and glaciers. What remains for our use is about 1% of the total. (North America’s Great Lakes and Russia’s Lake Baikal make up about two-fifths of this volume.)"

 

[daws101]

"Increased “extreme weather events” caused by man-made global warming are an alarmist myth, a study shows. In fact, contradicting claims by the Royal Society, the National Academy of Sciences and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, there was more “extreme weather” in the first half of the 20th Century than the second half."



‘Extreme Weather Events’: Another Alarmist Myth


'Extreme Weather Events': Another Alarmist Myth

Climatologist Debunks 'Extreme Weather' Myth, Says Current Weather is 'Business as Usual'


Of all the AGW alarmist hysteria out there, the "extreme weather" is the most laughable. Anybody who bothers to take a close look at this "extreme weather" garbage quickly realizes they are being duped. In fact, when the alarmists started this nonsense a few years ago, that is what ultimately brought me into this forum...the fake shit was just getting too absurd.

Climate Models and Climate Reality: A Closer Look at a Lukewarming World

While myriad explanations for the apparent model/observations discord have been forwarded in the scientific literature, a most-compelling one is that the earth’s equilibrium climate sensitivity — how much the earth’s average surface temperature will rise with a doubling of the atmospheric concentration of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide — is substantially lower than the value characteristic of the climate model collective. Evidence that the climate sensitivity lies towards the lower end of the range of possibilities given by consensus of mainstream science has been growing in recent years.

In this paper, we examine the data indicating a less-than-expected warming and a poor correspondence between climate model expectations and real-world observations. Further, we review the recent scientific findings in support of a low climate sensitivity. Based upon these and other lines of evidence (laid out in our numerous scientific publications, books, blogs articles, social media), we conclude that future global warming will occur at a pace substantially lower than that upon which US federal and international actions to restrict greenhouse gas emissions are founded.

OK, so Dr. Michaels is a lukewarmer, and works for the Cato Institute, an extreme right wing nut outfit. Were he to say anything else, he would lose his job, for certain.

what does this have to do with catastrophic flooding as per the OP?

Everything.

how? I swear I read on how the earth water supply is getting low. You got something else?

What you read is wrong.
All the water on earth is the same water in the same amount as it always has been.
Whatever you read if it was credible would have said the supply of fresh water is getting low.
Note the difference.
.

 

[Crick]

...becuz CO2!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!! DEATH TO THE DENIERS!!

How about a translation Frank.

 

[HUGGY]

Wow, monsoons never killed anyone in Asia before....

Moron.

Being 67 I can tell you that the "natural" disasters ARE getting worse by the decade.. FAR worse.

Yes it is true that typhoons and monsoons have occurred every rainy season that I can remember. What IS happening is that the intensity of these naturally occurring seasonal weather patterns has steadily become much more than the years before. Half a century ago the deaths that happened were mainly because the infrastructure in these places was so primitive. Now there are many dams and well built highways in place yet the damage is increasing. Denying the reality that is taking place is just moronic.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Wow, monsoons never killed anyone in Asia before....

Moron.

Being 67 I can tell you that the "natural" disasters ARE getting worse by the decade.. FAR worse.

Yes it is true that typhoons and monsoons have occurred every rainy season that I can remember. What IS happening is that the intensity of these naturally occurring seasonal weather patterns has steadily become much more than the years before. Half a century ago the deaths that happened were mainly because the infrastructure in these places was so primitive. Now there are many dams and well built highways in place yet the damage is increasing. Denying the reality that is taking place is just moronic.

So what's the ideal CO2 level to get back to those Golden Years?

 

[Crick]

280 would make a nice target. Zero fossil fuel burned would be a nice goal.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

280 would make a nice target. Zero fossil fuel burned would be a nice goal.

So why aren't you in China telling them to cut back? We're sparkling clean here compared to them. Or just stoip buring the rain forests.

 

[Crick]

I have told them to cut back. I do so by voting for presidents and congresspersons who don't think global warming is a Chinese hoax.

Catastrophic rainfall during monsoon season, flooding in Texas, droughts in the southwest, super typhoon after super typhoon in the Pacific... these are all indications that global warming is beginning to intensify severe weather... as expected.

 

[LaDexter]

CO2 could go to 8000 ppm and still not warm anything

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I have told them to cut back. I do so by voting for presidents and congresspersons who don't think global warming is a Chinese hoax.

Catastrophic rainfall during monsoon season, flooding in Texas, droughts in the southwest, super typhoon after super typhoon in the Pacific... these are all indications that global warming is beginning to intensify severe weather... as expected.

So go China and take OR with you, show us you're serious and not just trying to bring down the US economy

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I have told them to cut back. I do so by voting for presidents and congresspersons who don't think global warming is a Chinese hoax.

Catastrophic rainfall during monsoon season, flooding in Texas, droughts in the southwest, super typhoon after super typhoon in the Pacific... these are all indications that global warming is beginning to intensify severe weather... as expected.

rainfall during monsoons? Floods in Texas?

ZOMG!!!!

Has that ever happened before?

 

[HUGGY]

Wow, monsoons never killed anyone in Asia before....

Moron.

Being 67 I can tell you that the "natural" disasters ARE getting worse by the decade.. FAR worse.

Yes it is true that typhoons and monsoons have occurred every rainy season that I can remember. What IS happening is that the intensity of these naturally occurring seasonal weather patterns has steadily become much more than the years before. Half a century ago the deaths that happened were mainly because the infrastructure in these places was so primitive. Now there are many dams and well built highways in place yet the damage is increasing. Denying the reality that is taking place is just moronic.

So what's the ideal CO2 level to get back to those Golden Years?

I don't know what is causing the escalating weather problems. All I am saying is that it's getting worse. For all I know it's that damned butterfly flapping it's wings in China.

 

[Crick]

South America

 

[LaDexter]

I don't know what is causing the escalating weather problems

There is precisely no evidence of "escalating weather problems." We just set a new all time record for time between Cat 3 cane strikes on the US - more than 10 years without one.

 

[HUGGY]

I don't know what is causing the escalating weather problems

There is precisely no evidence of "escalating weather problems." We just set a new all time record for time between Cat 3 cane strikes on the US - more than 10 years without one.

Our East coast is not the weather vane for the world. If anything that lack of hurricane activity on our East coast is an indicator something is up. The energy has to go SOMEWHERE. Other parts of the planet and even our West coast are suffering extreme changes in weather patterns that are not so "kind".