mister TWENTY TRILLION DOLLAR DEBT... "barack hussein obama"

[rightwinger]

It is in the Constitution and was affirmed by the courts....your libertarian fantasies not withstanding

BULLSHIT.

THE EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT THE 16th AMENDMENT WAS NEVER ADOPTED. THE ONLY REASON IS "VALID" IS BECAUSE OF CORRUPT FEDERAL "JUDGES" WHO HAVE SWORN TO DEFEND AND SUPPORT THE WELFARE/WARFARE STATE.


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The 16th amendment is the law of the land...time for you to get over it

OF COURSE, AS A PARASITE YOU ARE CONFLICTED BY INTEREST - YOU BELIEVE IN STEALING BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY



The Law that Never Was: The Fraud of the 16th Amendment and Personal income Tax

Unless you are providing a link from a credible history or news source. I am just going to brush it off as whacko conspiracy nonsense without wasting my time reading it

BULLSHIT


IF ANY DOCUMENT INVALIDATES THE 16TH AMENDMENT THEN IT IS NOT A CREDIBLE SOURCE.

AS A PARASITE , YOU NEED THE 16th AMENDMENT - IT IS A POWERFUL WEALTH REDISTRIBUTING TOOL.

BUT EACH DOCUMENT USED IN SUPPORT OF THE BOOK ARE CERTIFIED BY EACH SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE STATES THAT ALLEGEDLY RATIFIED THE AMENDMENT.


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Using CAPS does not help you make your case

 

[NYcarbineer]

Income tax is in the Constitution

The bottom 40% have little to contribute. Why don't you raise their salaries and then they can pay more in taxes? Sounds fair

No it was put there in the socialist Teens, an income tax is just really a punishment for success.

A luxury tax makes more sense

It is in the Constitution and was affirmed by the courts....your libertarian fantasies not withstanding

BULLSHIT.

THE EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT THE 16th AMENDMENT WAS NEVER ADOPTED. THE ONLY REASON IS "VALID" IS BECAUSE OF CORRUPT FEDERAL "JUDGES" WHO HAVE SWORN TO DEFEND AND SUPPORT THE WELFARE/WARFARE STATE.


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The 16th Amendment tax protests have been ruled frivolous litigation.

OF COURSE, THEY HAVE BEEN.


you could have knocked me over with a feather.


THE FORMER USSR , CUBA, ....... ANY TYRANNY WILL RULE THAT THE DISSENT IS FRIVOLOUS


QUIT BULLSHITTING AND TELL ME WHY CERTIFIED DOCUMENTS FROM EACH OF THE SECRETARIES OF STATE IS "FRIVOLOUS"


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I don't have to tell you. Go read the court challenges on the subject.

 

[NYcarbineer]

BULLSHIT.

THE EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT THE 16th AMENDMENT WAS NEVER ADOPTED. THE ONLY REASON IS "VALID" IS BECAUSE OF CORRUPT FEDERAL "JUDGES" WHO HAVE SWORN TO DEFEND AND SUPPORT THE WELFARE/WARFARE STATE.


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The 16th amendment is the law of the land...time for you to get over it

OF COURSE, AS A PARASITE YOU ARE CONFLICTED BY INTEREST - YOU BELIEVE IN STEALING BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY



The Law that Never Was: The Fraud of the 16th Amendment and Personal income Tax

Unless you are providing a link from a credible history or news source. I am just going to brush it off as whacko conspiracy nonsense without wasting my time reading it

BULLSHIT


IF ANY DOCUMENT INVALIDATES THE 16TH AMENDMENT THEN IT IS NOT A CREDIBLE SOURCE.

AS A PARASITE , YOU NEED THE 16th AMENDMENT - IT IS A POWERFUL WEALTH REDISTRIBUTING TOOL.

BUT EACH DOCUMENT USED IN SUPPORT OF THE BOOK ARE CERTIFIED BY EACH SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE STATES THAT ALLEGEDLY RATIFIED THE AMENDMENT.


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Using CAPS does not help you make your case

lol, depends on what he's making a case for.

 

[g5000]

$20 trillion man: National debt nearly doubles during Obama presidency

By Dave Boyer - The Washington Times - Sunday, November 1, 2015

When President Obama signs into law the new two-year budget deal Monday, his action will bring into sharper focus a part of his legacy that he doesn’t like to talk about: He is the $20 trillion man.

Mr. Obama’s spending agreement with Congress will suspend the nation’s debt limit and allow the Treasury to borrow another $1.5 trillion or so by the end of his presidency in 2017. Added to the current total national debt of more than $18.15 trillion, the red ink will likely be crowding the $20 trillion mark right around the time Mr. Obama leaves the White House.


When Mr. Obama took over in January 2009, the total national debt stood at $10.6 trillion. That means the debt will have very nearly doubled during his eight years in office, and there is much more debt ahead with the abandonment of “sequestration” spending caps enacted in 2011.

Obama presidency to end with $20 trillion national debt

You mean to say the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS eliminated the debt ceiling and is spending us to the $20 trillion debt mark.

They are the ones writing the checks.

Obama can't lift the debt ceiling. Sorry!

 

[g5000]

Mr. Obama’s spending agreement with Congress will suspend the nation’s debt limit and allow the Treasury to borrow another $1.5 trillion or so

The Washington Times is a hack partisan propaganda outlet.

I love the way they phrase their shit. This will "allow the Treasury to borrow..."

Um. No. By deficit spending, the Republican Congress will FORCE the Treasury to borrow.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I think we need to double taxes on the wealthy so we don't see a $20 trillion debt

We could tax the top 5% at 100% and it would not generate enough money to reduce the debt. You live in a fantasy world of rich-hate.

Republicans propose cutting the tax rate on the wealthy in half

What is so different in proposing we double it? To be fair, I would only double it until our $20 Trillion debt is paid off

What is the definition of "rich"? at what income level would you double the tax? How much extra revenue would that generate? How do you know it would be used to pay down the debt rather than more social giveaways to buy votes? Why would the "rich" keep their money in the USA and pay double taxes on it?

You are quite naive.

How about we raise the tax rate of anyone making over $1 million a year to pre-Reagan tax rates?

We dedicate the extra revenue to debt relief
But only untilo our debt is paid off. Then they can have the present rates back

Talk about throwing rocks into the grand canyon! What do you think that will accomplish?

 

[Rustic]

I think we need to double taxes on the wealthy so we don't see a $20 trillion debt

We could tax the top 5% at 100% and it would not generate enough money to reduce the debt. You live in a fantasy world of rich-hate.

Republicans propose cutting the tax rate on the wealthy in half

What is so different in proposing we double it? To be fair, I would only double it until our $20 Trillion debt is paid off

What is the definition of "rich"? at what income level would you double the tax? How much extra revenue would that generate? How do you know it would be used to pay down the debt rather than more social giveaways to buy votes? Why would the "rich" keep their money in the USA and pay double taxes on it?

You are quite naive.

How about we raise the tax rate of anyone making over $1 million a year to pre-Reagan tax rates?

We dedicate the extra revenue to debt relief
But only untilo our debt is paid off. Then they can have the present rates back

Talk about throwing rocks into the grand canyon1

I know, progressives are delusional when it comes to debt.

 

[rightwinger]

I think we need to double taxes on the wealthy so we don't see a $20 trillion debt

We could tax the top 5% at 100% and it would not generate enough money to reduce the debt. You live in a fantasy world of rich-hate.

Republicans propose cutting the tax rate on the wealthy in half

What is so different in proposing we double it? To be fair, I would only double it until our $20 Trillion debt is paid off

What is the definition of "rich"? at what income level would you double the tax? How much extra revenue would that generate? How do you know it would be used to pay down the debt rather than more social giveaways to buy votes? Why would the "rich" keep their money in the USA and pay double taxes on it?

You are quite naive.

How about we raise the tax rate of anyone making over $1 million a year to pre-Reagan tax rates?

We dedicate the extra revenue to debt relief
But only untilo our debt is paid off. Then they can have the present rates back

Talk about throwing rocks into the grand canyon! What do you think that will accomplish?

I think it will generate an extra $1 trillion or more in revenue

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We could tax the top 5% at 100% and it would not generate enough money to reduce the debt. You live in a fantasy world of rich-hate.

Republicans propose cutting the tax rate on the wealthy in half

What is so different in proposing we double it? To be fair, I would only double it until our $20 Trillion debt is paid off

What is the definition of "rich"? at what income level would you double the tax? How much extra revenue would that generate? How do you know it would be used to pay down the debt rather than more social giveaways to buy votes? Why would the "rich" keep their money in the USA and pay double taxes on it?

You are quite naive.

How about we raise the tax rate of anyone making over $1 million a year to pre-Reagan tax rates?

We dedicate the extra revenue to debt relief
But only untilo our debt is paid off. Then they can have the present rates back

Talk about throwing rocks into the grand canyon! What do you think that will accomplish?

I think it will generate an extra $1 trillion or more in revenue

There you go thinking again! Liberals should never do that. They are not qualified.

 

[Dot Com]

So what did he do to add to the debt ? It's not like we had a decade of two unfunded wars as we flew into reccession .

Yep. He's consistently lowered the deficit & spending has been at its lowest in a generation or two. There are other drivers here but conservatards like OP want to paint our proud two-term President as the culprit

 

[Rustic]

We could tax the top 5% at 100% and it would not generate enough money to reduce the debt. You live in a fantasy world of rich-hate.

Republicans propose cutting the tax rate on the wealthy in half

What is so different in proposing we double it? To be fair, I would only double it until our $20 Trillion debt is paid off

What is the definition of "rich"? at what income level would you double the tax? How much extra revenue would that generate? How do you know it would be used to pay down the debt rather than more social giveaways to buy votes? Why would the "rich" keep their money in the USA and pay double taxes on it?

You are quite naive.

How about we raise the tax rate of anyone making over $1 million a year to pre-Reagan tax rates?

We dedicate the extra revenue to debt relief
But only untilo our debt is paid off. Then they can have the present rates back

Talk about throwing rocks into the grand canyon! What do you think that will accomplish?

I think it will generate an extra $1 trillion or more in revenue

Our debt is almost $20 trillion and unfunded liabilities which is also our debt is north of 120 trillion.
Yeah, 1 trillion will help... Not! Lol

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Reagan? He's been dead for what, 10+ years? The left's answer to everything is either Reagan or Bush. Obama adds more debt than all his predecessors.. .combined.. and the leftist nut-bag brigade yells Bush and Reagan.

It's not irrelevant. The cost of interest on the debt accumulated by past presidents will amount to over 3 trillion dollars over the course of Obama's presidency.

And the cost of debt added by Obama will dwarf all his predecessors.. combined.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Obama.. Mr. "deficit spending is immoral" doubles down on deficit spending.

 

[Rustic]

$20 trillion man: National debt nearly doubles during Obama presidency

By Dave Boyer - The Washington Times - Sunday, November 1, 2015

When President Obama signs into law the new two-year budget deal Monday, his action will bring into sharper focus a part of his legacy that he doesn’t like to talk about: He is the $20 trillion man.

Mr. Obama’s spending agreement with Congress will suspend the nation’s debt limit and allow the Treasury to borrow another $1.5 trillion or so by the end of his presidency in 2017. Added to the current total national debt of more than $18.15 trillion, the red ink will likely be crowding the $20 trillion mark right around the time Mr. Obama leaves the White House.


When Mr. Obama took over in January 2009, the total national debt stood at $10.6 trillion. That means the debt will have very nearly doubled during his eight years in office, and there is much more debt ahead with the abandonment of “sequestration” spending caps enacted in 2011.

Obama presidency to end with $20 trillion national debt

You mean to say the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS eliminated the debt ceiling and is spending us to the $20 trillion debt mark.

They are the ones writing the checks.

Obama can't lift the debt ceiling. Sorry!

This true, The president can't balance a budget, just As he has no control over the purse strings. As he owes no control over the purse strings, nonetheless. The buck Does stop there, the fiscal gap is a progressive problem no doubt... Now it's the country's problem.

Paying debt with more debt makes no sense in any arena...

 

[Rustic]

So what did he do to add to the debt ? It's not like we had a decade of two unfunded wars as we flew into reccession .

Yep. He's consistently lowered the deficit & spending has been at its lowest in a generation or two. There are other drivers here but conservatards like OP want to paint our proud two-term President as the culprit

You speak of milk toast solutions... All being a nonstarter

 

[g5000]

$20 trillion man: National debt nearly doubles during Obama presidency

By Dave Boyer - The Washington Times - Sunday, November 1, 2015

When President Obama signs into law the new two-year budget deal Monday, his action will bring into sharper focus a part of his legacy that he doesn’t like to talk about: He is the $20 trillion man.

Mr. Obama’s spending agreement with Congress will suspend the nation’s debt limit and allow the Treasury to borrow another $1.5 trillion or so by the end of his presidency in 2017. Added to the current total national debt of more than $18.15 trillion, the red ink will likely be crowding the $20 trillion mark right around the time Mr. Obama leaves the White House.


When Mr. Obama took over in January 2009, the total national debt stood at $10.6 trillion. That means the debt will have very nearly doubled during his eight years in office, and there is much more debt ahead with the abandonment of “sequestration” spending caps enacted in 2011.

Obama presidency to end with $20 trillion national debt

You mean to say the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS eliminated the debt ceiling and is spending us to the $20 trillion debt mark.

They are the ones writing the checks.

Obama can't lift the debt ceiling. Sorry!

This true, The president can't balance a budget, just As he has no control over the purse strings. As he owes no control over the purse strings, nonetheless. The buck Does stop there, the fiscal gap is a progressive problem no doubt... Now it's the country's problem.

Paying debt with more debt makes no sense in any arena...

I'm frankly just sick and tired of hacks pointing the finger at each the other party for the blame.

I mean, how many Congresses and Presidents do you have to live through before you figure out BOTH parties are big spenders?

Seriously. How fucking retarded do you have to be to start a topic blaming Obama for the Republican Congress eliminating the debt ceiling and increasing spending long enough to get through the next election? It's blazingly obvious why the GOP has done this. And to put it on Obama? That's some seriously deranged delusional thinking right there.


Fiscally, here are the differences between the two parties:

Republicans: Borrow and spend.

Democrats: Tax and spend.

 

[Timmy]

So what did he do to add to the debt ? It's not like we had a decade of two unfunded wars as we flew into reccession .

Yep. He's consistently lowered the deficit & spending has been at its lowest in a generation or two. There are other drivers here but conservatards like OP want to paint our proud two-term President as the culprit

You speak of milk toast solutions... All being a nonstarter

A war tax is a nonstarter ? Why ?

This deficit boost . Which departments caused it? Homeland security ? Medicare ? Pentagon?

 

[Rustic]

$20 trillion man: National debt nearly doubles during Obama presidency

By Dave Boyer - The Washington Times - Sunday, November 1, 2015

When President Obama signs into law the new two-year budget deal Monday, his action will bring into sharper focus a part of his legacy that he doesn’t like to talk about: He is the $20 trillion man.

Mr. Obama’s spending agreement with Congress will suspend the nation’s debt limit and allow the Treasury to borrow another $1.5 trillion or so by the end of his presidency in 2017. Added to the current total national debt of more than $18.15 trillion, the red ink will likely be crowding the $20 trillion mark right around the time Mr. Obama leaves the White House.


When Mr. Obama took over in January 2009, the total national debt stood at $10.6 trillion. That means the debt will have very nearly doubled during his eight years in office, and there is much more debt ahead with the abandonment of “sequestration” spending caps enacted in 2011.

Obama presidency to end with $20 trillion national debt

You mean to say the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS eliminated the debt ceiling and is spending us to the $20 trillion debt mark.

They are the ones writing the checks.

Obama can't lift the debt ceiling. Sorry!

This true, The president can't balance a budget, just As he has no control over the purse strings. As he owes no control over the purse strings, nonetheless. The buck Does stop there, the fiscal gap is a progressive problem no doubt... Now it's the country's problem.

Paying debt with more debt makes no sense in any arena...

I'm frankly just sick and tired of hacks pointing the finger at each the other party for the blame.

I mean, how many Congresses and Presidents do you have to live through before you figure out BOTH parties are big spenders?

Seriously. How fucking retarded do you have to be to start a topic blaming Obama for the Republican Congress eliminating the debt ceiling and increasing spending long enough to get through the next election? It's blazingly obvious why the GOP has done this. And to put it on Obama? That's some seriously deranged delusional thinking right there.


Fiscally, here are the differences between the two parties:

Republicans: Borrow and spend.

Democrats: Tax and spend.

The Point is there's only one party in Washington, running it anyways.
The progressive one

Hence the world class fu#% up

 

[Rustic]

So what did he do to add to the debt ? It's not like we had a decade of two unfunded wars as we flew into reccession .

Yep. He's consistently lowered the deficit & spending has been at its lowest in a generation or two. There are other drivers here but conservatards like OP want to paint our proud two-term President as the culprit

You speak of milk toast solutions... All being a nonstarter

A war tax is a nonstarter ? Why ?

This deficit boost . Which departments caused it? Homeland security ? Medicare ? Pentagon?

The progressive party

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans propose cutting the tax rate on the wealthy in half

What is so different in proposing we double it? To be fair, I would only double it until our $20 Trillion debt is paid off

What is the definition of "rich"? at what income level would you double the tax? How much extra revenue would that generate? How do you know it would be used to pay down the debt rather than more social giveaways to buy votes? Why would the "rich" keep their money in the USA and pay double taxes on it?

You are quite naive.

How about we raise the tax rate of anyone making over $1 million a year to pre-Reagan tax rates?

We dedicate the extra revenue to debt relief
But only untilo our debt is paid off. Then they can have the present rates back

Talk about throwing rocks into the grand canyon! What do you think that will accomplish?

I think it will generate an extra $1 trillion or more in revenue

Our debt is almost $20 trillion and unfunded liabilities which is also our debt is north of 120 trillion.
Yeah, 1 trillion will help... Not! Lol

Show me the $120 trillion unfunded liabilities