Mittens say separation of church and state goes too far

[Listening]

Maybe you should also look at SCOTUS cases...

Constitutional Topic: The Constitution and Religion - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

And the SCOTUS has never been wrong or stuck its nose where it didn't belong before??

The 1st amendment is very fucking clear. The sentence is not fucking hard to understand....

The SCOTUS has stuck it's nose where it doesn't belong more often than Cyranno de Bergerac giving head.

Selective Incorporation....from the 1930's.

If we get a conservative court....there are gonna be statues of the ten commandments all over courthouses in the midwest.

 

[Avatar4321]

And the SCOTUS has never been wrong or stuck its nose where it didn't belong before??

The 1st amendment is very fucking clear. The sentence is not fucking hard to understand....

The SCOTUS has stuck it's nose where it doesn't belong more often than Cyranno de Bergerac giving head.

Selective Incorporation....from the 1930's.

If we get a conservative court....there are gonna be statues of the ten commandments all over courthouses in the midwest.

If Romney wins, we may end up with a more conservative court than ever before. Ironic consider former Presidents who are more conservative have made bad picks. I say this because he has apparently gotten Jay Sekulow to head up the process to find Judges if he wins. Jay is an amazing guy imho. A great defender of religious liberty.

 

[tyroneweaver]

why doesnt he be honest about his tax returns then?

Oh so you have a crystal ball thet he's done something illegal. sheeesh.

Is your last name cutter

 

[Charles_Main]

Mitt Romney: Church State Separation Taken Too Far By Some

Great news for the anti-American rw's who already hate our Constitution.

Nice blatantly Dishonest Title Hack.

he said some people take it to far, not that it goes to far.

Jesus you fucking Propagandist are shameless.

 

[Charles_Main]

And the SCOTUS has never been wrong or stuck its nose where it didn't belong before??

The 1st amendment is very fucking clear. The sentence is not fucking hard to understand....

The SCOTUS has stuck it's nose where it doesn't belong more often than Cyranno de Bergerac giving head.

Selective Incorporation....from the 1930's.

If we get a conservative court....there are gonna be statues of the ten commandments all over courthouses in the midwest.

You are an idiot, there already are Plaques in many Court houses, not just in the Mid west with some form of the Commandments on them, Last time I checked there was still one at the SCOTUS states as well.

You people are idiots.

 

[EriktheRed]

Mittens say separation of church and state goes too far

WOW!


The hits just keep on comin', huh?

 

[Lakhota]

Side Note: Todd Akin has a Master of Divinity degree. A "certified" religious nut.

Todd Akin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Avatar4321]

Mittens say separation of church and state goes too far

WOW!


The hits just keep on comin', huh?

Yeah, you guys are going to be knocked out in November and wont have a clue what happened

 

[Old Rocks]

Hmmm...... Seems this fellow had something to say on this subject.

To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.

Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

 

[EriktheRed]

Mittens say separation of church and state goes too far

WOW!


The hits just keep on comin', huh?

Yeah, you guys are going to be knocked out in November and wont have a clue what happened

Yeah, with the kind of crazy shit the opposition is currently pulling it would be quite a surprise.

 

[Avatar4321]

Yeah, with the kind of crazy shit the opposition is currently pulling it would be quite a surprise.

Not really sure what is crazy about common sense.

 

[Listening]

Hmmm...... Seems this fellow had something to say on this subject.

To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.

Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

A letter written to reply to a request for a FEDERAL day of FASTING And PRAYER. Jefferson knew the Constitution....he was also pissed at the Congregationalist church. Jefferson never saw the Constitution as blocking states rights to make their own decisions. As governor of VA, he called for days of fasting and prayer.

 

[Lakhota]

Romney is starting to show his religious roots. Scary shit...

 

[Old Rocks]

Hmmm...... Seems this fellow had something to say on this subject.

To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.

Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

A letter written to reply to a request for a FEDERAL day of FASTING And PRAYER. Jefferson knew the Constitution....he was also pissed at the Congregationalist church. Jefferson never saw the Constitution as blocking states rights to make their own decisions. As governor of VA, he called for days of fasting and prayer.

I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.

 

[bodecea]

Maybe he wants to make us a Mormon country?

While that's highly doubtful, I don't care if he does.

There are many of us, American citizens, who would care very much. Do we not count?

 

[bodecea]

While that's highly doubtful, I don't care if he does.

the vast majority of Americans dont want this to be a Morman country

A vast majority of Americans havent seriously investigated Mormonism.

The more who would....would not be a good thing for the Mormon faith.

 

[Listening]

the vast majority of Americans dont want this to be a Morman country

A vast majority of Americans havent seriously investigated Mormonism.

The more who would....would not be a good thing for the Mormon faith.

That's why they have 50,000 to 60,000 full time missionaries in the field.

They don't want anyone to know about it.

 

[Listening]

Hmmm...... Seems this fellow had something to say on this subject.

To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.

Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

A letter written to reply to a request for a FEDERAL day of FASTING And PRAYER. Jefferson knew the Constitution....he was also pissed at the Congregationalist church. Jefferson never saw the Constitution as blocking states rights to make their own decisions. As governor of VA, he called for days of fasting and prayer.

I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.

Federal legislature only.

At that time, there were several states using tax money to support speciific religions and nobody challenged that in court.

How's that gonna add up with your hope that this means what it doesn't.

BTW: Jefferson's letters are not the Constitution.

 

[Si modo]

Mitt Romney: Church State Separation Taken Too Far By Some

Great news for the anti-American rw's who already hate our Constitution.

From the Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."


From Jefferson's letter (demonstrating intent): "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State."


And, finally, from Romney: Romney said those who "seek to remove from the public domain any acknowledgment of God" aren't acting in line with the Founders' intent.




So, when you conflate spirituality with religion, you make erroneous claims about what one said being unconstitutional.



Now, if we want to talk about unconstitutional, we can talk about Obama's summary executions of US citizens without judicial review and denying them due process - that's also in the Bill of Rights....and inherent right.

 

[DiamondDave]

Separation of church and state applies equally to ALL religions.

Constitutional Topic: The Constitution and Religion - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

The 1st amendment does apply to all religions, as no specific one is mentioned....

But, as stated, there is no 'separation of church and state' in the Constitution