MNSBC, Lawrence O'Donnel: "I would ban all guns"

What "more" to socialism do you think there is?

What kind of question is that? Socialism is socialism. The methodical redistribution of all wealth and property within a nation. The Nazis did it, Marx did it, Stalin did it, Jong Un is doing it. Why aren't you even remotely disturbed by this?

Why should I be "disturbed"?

"Socialism" doesn't mean what you think it does.

Really now?

"A socialist economic system consists of a system of production and distribution organised to directly satisfy economic demands and human needs, so that goods and services are produced directly for use instead of for private profit driven by the accumulation of capital.""

"At a certain stage of development, the material productive forces of society come into conflict with the existing relations of production or – this merely expresses the same thing in legal terms – with the property relations within the framework of which they have operated hitherto. Then begins an era of social revolution. The changes in the economic foundation lead sooner or later to the transformation of the whole immense superstructure.“

-Karl Marx

Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
What kind of question is that? Socialism is socialism. The methodical redistribution of all wealth and property within a nation. The Nazis did it, Marx did it, Stalin did it, Jong Un is doing it. Why aren't you even remotely disturbed by this?

Why should I be "disturbed"?

"Socialism" doesn't mean what you think it does.

Really now?

"A socialist economic system consists of a system of production and distribution organised to directly satisfy economic demands and human needs, so that goods and services are produced directly for use instead of for private profit driven by the accumulation of capital.""

"At a certain stage of development, the material productive forces of society come into conflict with the existing relations of production or – this merely expresses the same thing in legal terms – with the property relations within the framework of which they have operated hitherto. Then begins an era of social revolution. The changes in the economic foundation lead sooner or later to the transformation of the whole immense superstructure.“

-Karl Marx

Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yeah, that's actually pretty much what I said. It's an economic system.

What was your point, exactly? Why should Lawrence O'Donnell be fired for believing in an different economic system than you?
 
At lleast he fully admits to being a Socialist.


Will MSNBC yank his show or does GE support having a Socialist on their payroll?

I'm gonna guess Joe McCarthy is a big hero of yours, right?

Dude, he literally says word for word "I am a socialist." Did you listen to the video?
It's not as if he'd confessed to being a vampire.

I don't know what your impression of socialism is but if you enjoy a comfortable middle class lifestyle the odds are you owe it to the socialist influence on American society and its economy dating back to FDR.
 
I'm gonna guess Joe McCarthy is a big hero of yours, right?

Dude, he literally says word for word "I am a socialist." Did you listen to the video?
It's not as if he'd confessed to being a vampire.

I don't know what your impression of socialism is but if you enjoy a comfortable middle class lifestyle the odds are you owe it to the socialist influence on American society and its economy dating back to FDR.

There never existed a middle class before FDR?
 
Why should I be "disturbed"?

"Socialism" doesn't mean what you think it does.

Really now?

"A socialist economic system consists of a system of production and distribution organised to directly satisfy economic demands and human needs, so that goods and services are produced directly for use instead of for private profit driven by the accumulation of capital.""

"At a certain stage of development, the material productive forces of society come into conflict with the existing relations of production or – this merely expresses the same thing in legal terms – with the property relations within the framework of which they have operated hitherto. Then begins an era of social revolution. The changes in the economic foundation lead sooner or later to the transformation of the whole immense superstructure.“

-Karl Marx

Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yeah, that's actually pretty much what I said. It's an economic system.

What was your point, exactly? Why should Lawrence O'Donnell be fired for believing in an different economic system than you?

I never said anything about anyone being fired. That's stupid. He has a point of view I disagree with, so what?

My point is that socialism is not strictly limited to the macroeconomic machinations of a country, it also has it's roots in microeconomics as well, e.g. an individual and their private property.
 
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Really now?

"A socialist economic system consists of a system of production and distribution organised to directly satisfy economic demands and human needs, so that goods and services are produced directly for use instead of for private profit driven by the accumulation of capital.""

"At a certain stage of development, the material productive forces of society come into conflict with the existing relations of production or – this merely expresses the same thing in legal terms – with the property relations within the framework of which they have operated hitherto. Then begins an era of social revolution. The changes in the economic foundation lead sooner or later to the transformation of the whole immense superstructure.“

-Karl Marx

Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yeah, that's actually pretty much what I said. It's an economic system.

What was your point, exactly? Why should Lawrence O'Donnell be fired for believing in an different economic system than you?

I never said anything about anyone being fired. That's stupid. He has a point of view I disagree with, so what?

My point is that socialism is not strictly limited to the macroeconomic machinations of a country, it also has it's roots in microeconomics as well, e.g. an individual and their private property.

I don't think I said anything that would contradict that.

What exactly were you responding to?
 
Yeah, that's actually pretty much what I said. It's an economic system.

What was your point, exactly? Why should Lawrence O'Donnell be fired for believing in an different economic system than you?

I never said anything about anyone being fired. That's stupid. He has a point of view I disagree with, so what?

My point is that socialism is not strictly limited to the macroeconomic machinations of a country, it also has it's roots in microeconomics as well, e.g. an individual and their private property.

I don't think I said anything that would contradict that.

What exactly were you responding to?

" 'Socialism' doesn't mean what you think it does. "
 
Why should I be "disturbed"?

"Socialism" doesn't mean what you think it does.

Really now?

"A socialist economic system consists of a system of production and distribution organised to directly satisfy economic demands and human needs, so that goods and services are produced directly for use instead of for private profit driven by the accumulation of capital.""

"At a certain stage of development, the material productive forces of society come into conflict with the existing relations of production or – this merely expresses the same thing in legal terms – with the property relations within the framework of which they have operated hitherto. Then begins an era of social revolution. The changes in the economic foundation lead sooner or later to the transformation of the whole immense superstructure.“

-Karl Marx

Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yeah, that's actually pretty much what I said. It's an economic system.

What was your point, exactly? Why should Lawrence O'Donnell be fired for believing in an different economic system than you?
I don't want him fired. It's guys like O'Donnell that keeps MSNBC's ratings in the basement.
 
"Ban all guns". Sounds like a real solution, doesn't it? Too bad the criminals won't go along with it. Only idiots (like Lawrence Odonnell) advocate the banning of all guns.
 
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Socialism in a nutshell is big government controlling income redistribution.

Banning all guns would be as effective as banning all narcotics.
 
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