More Evidence Of Hillary's Responsibility For Benghazi Deaths

[ogibillm]

And why were the special forces in Tripoli told to "not board the plane"? They could have saved them

Because those in the compound had already been rescued by the CIA. Smith was dead and the ambassador was missing, the first response team from Tripoli were already in route to the Benghazi Airport. Furthermore they were needed in Tripoli.

Hicks testified these troops had highly trained skills that would have been useful to the personnel in Benghazi, who were "exhausted from a night of fighting against very capable opponents."

"There was every reason to believe our personnel was still in danger," he says, adding he does not know why the Special Forces troops were not allowed to get on the C-130.

He says Lt. Col. Gibson was "furious" that he could not assist the Americans in Benghazi. "That's what he wanted to do."

Top Diplomat in Tripoli: Pentagon Told Special Forces to 'Stand Down'

The supposed 'stand down' order has been debunked by every investigation

 

[ClosedCaption]

I wonder how many other people they want to go down because of this? Or do they only blame Hilary who just so happens to be running for POTUS. Thats convenient

 

[S.J.]

Bulloney, it made it through the Senate, with just a slight rise in Embassy security money from what the House requested but STILL 270 BILLION DOLLARS shy of what the President said he needed in his budget.

CNN Fact Check: What about the security in Benghazi? - CNNPolitics.com

But C4A, we KNOW that the men there CALLED for HELP, and one of them even LITE UP a mortar site for the HOPED FOR Air Force bombing....that never came!.... WHY was that request denied?

Because Obama and Hillary were more concerned about the upcoming election and covering their ass on their incompetence.

Conspiracy theory?

No, just trying to shift the blame from themselves to a video that no one ever saw.

Debunked long ago

Sept. 5
Morris Sedak, Washington, D.C.-based Coptic Christian and anti-Islam activist, starts promoting the movie trailer to journalists and via social media, timing his pitch to Florida pastor Terry Jones' "International Judge Muhammad Day" on Sept. 11.

Sept. 8
Egyptian television firebrand Sheik Khaled Abdalla airs part of the the Arabic version of the clip on local channel Al Nas, condemning it harshly. The trailer's YouTube view-count skyrockets.

Sept. 10
Pastor Jones, known for threatening to burn the Koran on previous Sept. 11 anniversaries, announces that he will show part of the movie at his "Judge Muhammad Day."

The anti-Islam-film riots: A timeline

Now you're back to blaming the video, eh? That figures.

 

[S.J.]

And why were the special forces in Tripoli told to "not board the plane"? They could have saved them

Because those in the compound had already been rescued by the CIA. Smith was dead and the ambassador was missing, the first response team from Tripoli were already in route to the Benghazi Airport. Furthermore they were needed in Tripoli.

Hicks testified these troops had highly trained skills that would have been useful to the personnel in Benghazi, who were "exhausted from a night of fighting against very capable opponents."

"There was every reason to believe our personnel was still in danger," he says, adding he does not know why the Special Forces troops were not allowed to get on the C-130.

He says Lt. Col. Gibson was "furious" that he could not assist the Americans in Benghazi. "That's what he wanted to do."

Top Diplomat in Tripoli: Pentagon Told Special Forces to 'Stand Down'

The supposed 'stand down' order has been debunked by every investigation

You proclaiming it doesn't make it fact. Testimony from those special forces who were told to stay put carries a lot more weight than your partisan comments.

 

[ogibillm]

And why were the special forces in Tripoli told to "not board the plane"? They could have saved them

Because those in the compound had already been rescued by the CIA. Smith was dead and the ambassador was missing, the first response team from Tripoli were already in route to the Benghazi Airport. Furthermore they were needed in Tripoli.

Hicks testified these troops had highly trained skills that would have been useful to the personnel in Benghazi, who were "exhausted from a night of fighting against very capable opponents."

"There was every reason to believe our personnel was still in danger," he says, adding he does not know why the Special Forces troops were not allowed to get on the C-130.

He says Lt. Col. Gibson was "furious" that he could not assist the Americans in Benghazi. "That's what he wanted to do."

Top Diplomat in Tripoli: Pentagon Told Special Forces to 'Stand Down'

The supposed 'stand down' order has been debunked by every investigation

You proclaiming it doesn't make it fact. Testimony from those special forces who were told to stay put carries a lot more weight than your partisan comments.

Again, the findings of every investigation says there was no stand down order. This question is not in dispute, it is established fact. There was no stand down order given

 

[S.J.]

And why were the special forces in Tripoli told to "not board the plane"? They could have saved them

Because those in the compound had already been rescued by the CIA. Smith was dead and the ambassador was missing, the first response team from Tripoli were already in route to the Benghazi Airport. Furthermore they were needed in Tripoli.

Hicks testified these troops had highly trained skills that would have been useful to the personnel in Benghazi, who were "exhausted from a night of fighting against very capable opponents."

"There was every reason to believe our personnel was still in danger," he says, adding he does not know why the Special Forces troops were not allowed to get on the C-130.

He says Lt. Col. Gibson was "furious" that he could not assist the Americans in Benghazi. "That's what he wanted to do."

Top Diplomat in Tripoli: Pentagon Told Special Forces to 'Stand Down'

The supposed 'stand down' order has been debunked by every investigation

You proclaiming it doesn't make it fact. Testimony from those special forces who were told to stay put carries a lot more weight than your partisan comments.

Again, the findings of every investigation says there was no stand down order. This question is not in dispute, it is established fact. There was no stand down order given

The order was to "stay where they were". You can split hairs all you want but the bottom line is the special forces team were ready to leave to assist Stevens and the rest but were ordered not to. The four died as a result of that order.

 

[Claudette]

And why were the special forces in Tripoli told to "not board the plane"? They could have saved them

Because those in the compound had already been rescued by the CIA. Smith was dead and the ambassador was missing, the first response team from Tripoli were already in route to the Benghazi Airport. Furthermore they were needed in Tripoli.

Hicks testified these troops had highly trained skills that would have been useful to the personnel in Benghazi, who were "exhausted from a night of fighting against very capable opponents."

"There was every reason to believe our personnel was still in danger," he says, adding he does not know why the Special Forces troops were not allowed to get on the C-130.

He says Lt. Col. Gibson was "furious" that he could not assist the Americans in Benghazi. "That's what he wanted to do."

Top Diplomat in Tripoli: Pentagon Told Special Forces to 'Stand Down'

The supposed 'stand down' order has been debunked by every investigation

You proclaiming it doesn't make it fact. Testimony from those special forces who were told to stay put carries a lot more weight than your partisan comments.

Again, the findings of every investigation says there was no stand down order. This question is not in dispute, it is established fact. There was no stand down order given

Seems some folks don't agree with you assessment there pard.

Benghazi Bombshell: Stand Down Orders Were Given - Truth And Action


U.S. Commandos: We Were Ordered To “Stand Down” During Benghazi Attack

While the Obama Administration contends that no stand down orders were given in Benghazi, testimony recently given in front of the House Intelligence Committee has show this to be yet another “Obama lie”.

“The whole issue about stand down orders is not an issue. There clearly were stand down orders given to people not only in Benghazi but also in Tripoli and the State Department’s counterterrorism team.” says Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., who sits on the House Intelligence Committee.

I don’t know about you, but this makes me livid! It should send us out looking for the nearest tree, and prompt the question “Anyone got any rope?”

 

[S.J.]

Because those in the compound had already been rescued by the CIA. Smith was dead and the ambassador was missing, the first response team from Tripoli were already in route to the Benghazi Airport. Furthermore they were needed in Tripoli.

Hicks testified these troops had highly trained skills that would have been useful to the personnel in Benghazi, who were "exhausted from a night of fighting against very capable opponents."

"There was every reason to believe our personnel was still in danger," he says, adding he does not know why the Special Forces troops were not allowed to get on the C-130.

He says Lt. Col. Gibson was "furious" that he could not assist the Americans in Benghazi. "That's what he wanted to do."

Top Diplomat in Tripoli: Pentagon Told Special Forces to 'Stand Down'

The supposed 'stand down' order has been debunked by every investigation

You proclaiming it doesn't make it fact. Testimony from those special forces who were told to stay put carries a lot more weight than your partisan comments.

Again, the findings of every investigation says there was no stand down order. This question is not in dispute, it is established fact. There was no stand down order given

Seems some folks don't agree with you assessment there pard.

Benghazi Bombshell: Stand Down Orders Were Given - Truth And Action


U.S. Commandos: We Were Ordered To “Stand Down” During Benghazi Attack

While the Obama Administration contends that no stand down orders were given in Benghazi, testimony recently given in front of the House Intelligence Committee has show this to be yet another “Obama lie”.

“The whole issue about stand down orders is not an issue. There clearly were stand down orders given to people not only in Benghazi but also in Tripoli and the State Department’s counterterrorism team.” says Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., who sits on the House Intelligence Committee.

I don’t know about you, but this makes me livid! It should send us out looking for the nearest tree, and prompt the question “Anyone got any rope?”

Reminds me of John Kerry telling the Israelis not to take any actions to defend themselves from Palestinian terror attacks. I'm sure Oggie agrees with that too.

 

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Wow! what a feature

 

[Claudette]

You should use it.

 

[BlindBoo]

And why were the special forces in Tripoli told to "not board the plane"? They could have saved them

Because those in the compound had already been rescued by the CIA. Smith was dead and the ambassador was missing, the first response team from Tripoli were already in route to the Benghazi Airport. Furthermore they were needed in Tripoli.

Hicks testified these troops had highly trained skills that would have been useful to the personnel in Benghazi, who were "exhausted from a night of fighting against very capable opponents."

"There was every reason to believe our personnel was still in danger," he says, adding he does not know why the Special Forces troops were not allowed to get on the C-130.

He says Lt. Col. Gibson was "furious" that he could not assist the Americans in Benghazi. "That's what he wanted to do."

Top Diplomat in Tripoli: Pentagon Told Special Forces to 'Stand Down'

Hicks was not in Benghazi was he?

 

[S.J.]

And why were the special forces in Tripoli told to "not board the plane"? They could have saved them

Because those in the compound had already been rescued by the CIA. Smith was dead and the ambassador was missing, the first response team from Tripoli were already in route to the Benghazi Airport. Furthermore they were needed in Tripoli.

Hicks testified these troops had highly trained skills that would have been useful to the personnel in Benghazi, who were "exhausted from a night of fighting against very capable opponents."

"There was every reason to believe our personnel was still in danger," he says, adding he does not know why the Special Forces troops were not allowed to get on the C-130.

He says Lt. Col. Gibson was "furious" that he could not assist the Americans in Benghazi. "That's what he wanted to do."

Top Diplomat in Tripoli: Pentagon Told Special Forces to 'Stand Down'

Hicks was not in Benghazi was he?

No, because he was told NOT TO GO. Thank you.

 

[BlindBoo]

But C4A, we KNOW that the men there CALLED for HELP, and one of them even LITE UP a mortar site for the HOPED FOR Air Force bombing....that never came!.... WHY was that request denied?

Because Obama and Hillary were more concerned about the upcoming election and covering their ass on their incompetence.

Conspiracy theory?

No, just trying to shift the blame from themselves to a video that no one ever saw.

Debunked long ago

Sept. 5
Morris Sedak, Washington, D.C.-based Coptic Christian and anti-Islam activist, starts promoting the movie trailer to journalists and via social media, timing his pitch to Florida pastor Terry Jones' "International Judge Muhammad Day" on Sept. 11.

Sept. 8
Egyptian television firebrand Sheik Khaled Abdalla airs part of the the Arabic version of the clip on local channel Al Nas, condemning it harshly. The trailer's YouTube view-count skyrockets.

Sept. 10
Pastor Jones, known for threatening to burn the Koran on previous Sept. 11 anniversaries, announces that he will show part of the movie at his "Judge Muhammad Day."

The anti-Islam-film riots: A timeline

Now you're back to blaming the video, eh? That figures.

You're the one who said that no one ever saw the video. It was broadcast in Egypt on the 8th. It was to blame for many riots and many deaths in the ME. So just to be clear, the video was viewed by many Muslims by the 11th.

 

[Stephanie]

I just posted this in a new thread.

SNIP:
Judicial Watch: New State Documents Show Quick White House Effort to Link Benghazi to Internet Video
OCTOBER 20, 2015



State Department documents detail delays and lack of support in hours after attack

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today released new State Department documents that raise more questions about the September 11, 2012, terrorist attack on the U.S. Special Mission at Benghazi, Libya. The documents show the White House contacted YouTube over an Internet video as one of its first moves after the initial attack.

The documents, from the agency’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security, were provided to Judicial Watch in response to a court order in a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia on October 16, 2014, (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:14-cv-01733)). The lawsuit seeks “any and all logs, reports, or other records” the Washington-based Diplomatic Security Command Center produced between September 10, 2012, and September 13, 2012, relating to the terrorist attack on the U.S. compound in Benghazi, Libya.”

The documents detail that only three hours after the initial attack on U.S. personnel in Benghazi, the White House contacted YouTube in an apparent effort to initially blame the assault on an obscure “Pastor John video,” rather than filmmaker Nakoula “Mark” Basseley Nakoula. The administration falsely claimed that Nakoula’s video, “Innocence of Muslims,” provoked the attack. The email also references the involvement of then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (Judicial Watch, through separate litigation, previously uncovered documents that show Obama White House officials set Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi response):

From: [REDACTED]

Sent: September 11, 2012 9:11 PM

To: DSCC_Managment_Team; DSCC_Watch Team

Subject: (S//NF) [REDACTED] Libya

Per Ambassador Mull [Stephen Mull, then Executive Secretary of the State Department] after SVTS [Secure Video Teleconference System] conference:

DOD is looking at various resources.

[REDACTED INFORMATION]

S [then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton] expected to make statements one of which may confirm KIA, notification of next of kin is pending confirmation. DCM The Hague was to call OPS when completed.

White House is reaching out to U-Tube to advise ramifications of posting of the Pastor Jon video.

(The “Pastor Jon” reference may have been to a rarely viewed video by Oregon-based Pastor Jon Courson entitled God vs. Allah, a low-key exposition of the Biblical book of Kings.)

The documents also include a previously Secret “Attack Timeline,” dated September 12, 2012, which raised additional questions about the Obama administration’s response to the attack. The State Department Bureau of Diplomatic Security makes no mention of any spontaneous demonstration or Internet video in describing the Benghazi assault:

At 1549 hrs, DSCC was notified that U.S. Mission Benghazi was under attack. At 1600 hrs, DSCC [Diplomatic Security Command Center] was notified by Regional Security Officer (RSO) Benghazi that armed individuals had entered the compound, and at 1614 hrs RSO Benghazi reported that an armed group had set fire to buildings inside the compound. The US Ambassador was visiting post from Tripoli, and as of 1614 hrs it was suspected that one of the buildings that had been set on fire was the building where the Ambassador was sheltering. [Redacted] Quick Reaction Force (QRF) responded from their off-compound Annex, but was turned back due to heavy hostile fire.

As of 1700 hrs, [REDACTED] QRF and host nation militia (17 February Brigade) have redeployed to the compound. One Assistant RSO (ARSO) suffered injuries from smoke inhalation. This agent was in the Principal Officer’s Residence with U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and Information Program Officer (IPO) Sean P. Smith. All three moved to the safe haven when the attack began, but had to relocate to the roof as the building caught on fire. The agent reached the rooftop but lost contact with the other two. The agent reentered the residence and found the IPO killed in action (KIA), and was unable to locate the Ambassador. The agent had given his cell phone to the Ambassador.

The new timeline also confirms prior Judicial Watch disclosures that the State Department received intelligence that Ambassador Stevens may have been alive after the attack:

The QRF and friendly militia forces were unable to locate the Ambassador, and pull back to the off-compound Annex. All classified material on the compound is secured by RSO [REDACTED] personnel. Embassy Tripoli receives a phone call from the injured ARSO’s cell phone (which had been left with the Ambassador) from a male caller saying he is at the hospital with an unresponsive male who matches a physical description of the Ambassador. [REDACTED MATERIAL]. Tripoli charters an airplane and sends it to Benghazi with six personnel onboard as a response team.

The document also raises questions about whether a delay of personnel sent to Benghazi led to additional deaths:

At 2215 hrs, Benghazi ARSO called DSCC to report that the [REDACTED] response team has been on the ground in Benghazi for approximately 60 minutes, but are waiting for the 17 February Brigade to escort them to [REDACTED]. DS Seniors ask ARSO about the identity of the reported white male in the hospital. [REDACTED MATERIAL] hospital for about two hours. Henderson will call him after this call.

The timeline later details that the team did not leave for the airport for another 45 minutes and did not arrive at the Annex until 2313 hrs, nearly two hours after the team first arrived. The timeline then details the second attack, which takes place only 17 minutes after the response team arrives:

• At 2332 hrs, ARSO reports that they are under mortar attack, with 3 to 4 rounds hitting the Annex. There are [REDACTED] injured and [REDACTED] the need for medical evacuation. The response team is on site and either inside or deployed to the roof. The agents are sheltering in place with 45-minutes to sunrise.

• At 2349 hrs, DS Special Agent [REDACTED] was reported hit during the mortar attack, which has since ceased. [REDACTED MATERIAL] All other DS agents are accounted for.

More than six hours after the initial terrorist assault, there remains only one plane available to evacuate injured and other personnel from Benghazi. The timeline details that the plane takes off, leaving some personnel behind, including those killed in action. Those remaining behind initially have to wait for the one plane to return from Tripoli, but are eventually rescued several hours later by a Libyan Air Force C-130 airplane.

The attack timeline also includes a section labeled “Causes and Responsibility,” which is redacted completely.

ALL of it: a lot more at the site
Judicial Watch: New State Documents Show Quick White House Effort to Link Benghazi to Internet Video


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[S.J.]

Because Obama and Hillary were more concerned about the upcoming election and covering their ass on their incompetence.

Conspiracy theory?

No, just trying to shift the blame from themselves to a video that no one ever saw.

Debunked long ago

Sept. 5
Morris Sedak, Washington, D.C.-based Coptic Christian and anti-Islam activist, starts promoting the movie trailer to journalists and via social media, timing his pitch to Florida pastor Terry Jones' "International Judge Muhammad Day" on Sept. 11.

Sept. 8
Egyptian television firebrand Sheik Khaled Abdalla airs part of the the Arabic version of the clip on local channel Al Nas, condemning it harshly. The trailer's YouTube view-count skyrockets.

Sept. 10
Pastor Jones, known for threatening to burn the Koran on previous Sept. 11 anniversaries, announces that he will show part of the movie at his "Judge Muhammad Day."

The anti-Islam-film riots: A timeline

Now you're back to blaming the video, eh? That figures.

You're the one who said that no one ever saw the video. It was broadcast in Egypt on the 8th. It was to blame for many riots and many deaths in the ME. So just to be clear, the video was viewed by many Muslims by the 11th.

So just to be clear, are you saying that you believe the video was responsible for the Benghazi attack?

 

[BlindBoo]

Conspiracy theory?

No, just trying to shift the blame from themselves to a video that no one ever saw.

Debunked long ago

Sept. 5
Morris Sedak, Washington, D.C.-based Coptic Christian and anti-Islam activist, starts promoting the movie trailer to journalists and via social media, timing his pitch to Florida pastor Terry Jones' "International Judge Muhammad Day" on Sept. 11.

Sept. 8
Egyptian television firebrand Sheik Khaled Abdalla airs part of the the Arabic version of the clip on local channel Al Nas, condemning it harshly. The trailer's YouTube view-count skyrockets.

Sept. 10
Pastor Jones, known for threatening to burn the Koran on previous Sept. 11 anniversaries, announces that he will show part of the movie at his "Judge Muhammad Day."

The anti-Islam-film riots: A timeline

Now you're back to blaming the video, eh? That figures.

You're the one who said that no one ever saw the video. It was broadcast in Egypt on the 8th. It was to blame for many riots and many deaths in the ME. So just to be clear, the video was viewed by many Muslims by the 11th.

So just to be clear, are you saying that you believe the video was responsible for the Benghazi attack?

No. All I've said is that you are incorrect when you say that it was video that no one saw.

 

[S.J.]

No, just trying to shift the blame from themselves to a video that no one ever saw.

Debunked long ago

Sept. 5
Morris Sedak, Washington, D.C.-based Coptic Christian and anti-Islam activist, starts promoting the movie trailer to journalists and via social media, timing his pitch to Florida pastor Terry Jones' "International Judge Muhammad Day" on Sept. 11.

Sept. 8
Egyptian television firebrand Sheik Khaled Abdalla airs part of the the Arabic version of the clip on local channel Al Nas, condemning it harshly. The trailer's YouTube view-count skyrockets.

Sept. 10
Pastor Jones, known for threatening to burn the Koran on previous Sept. 11 anniversaries, announces that he will show part of the movie at his "Judge Muhammad Day."

The anti-Islam-film riots: A timeline

Now you're back to blaming the video, eh? That figures.

You're the one who said that no one ever saw the video. It was broadcast in Egypt on the 8th. It was to blame for many riots and many deaths in the ME. So just to be clear, the video was viewed by many Muslims by the 11th.

So just to be clear, are you saying that you believe the video was responsible for the Benghazi attack?

No. All I've said is that you are incorrect when you say that it was video that no one saw.

No? So you admit Obama and Clinton lied about the video?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Its about the video...

Its about the Emails...

Its about deaths...

No, its really about secret servers...

Wait, now its about the Families of those guys that died...EMOTIONAL plea...

 

[S.J.]

Its about the video...

Its about the Emails...

Its about deaths...

No, its really about secret servers...

Wait, now its about the Families of those guys that died...EMOTIONAL plea...

It's about the lies and corruption in the Obama administration.

 

[ogibillm]

Because those in the compound had already been rescued by the CIA. Smith was dead and the ambassador was missing, the first response team from Tripoli were already in route to the Benghazi Airport. Furthermore they were needed in Tripoli.

Hicks testified these troops had highly trained skills that would have been useful to the personnel in Benghazi, who were "exhausted from a night of fighting against very capable opponents."

"There was every reason to believe our personnel was still in danger," he says, adding he does not know why the Special Forces troops were not allowed to get on the C-130.

He says Lt. Col. Gibson was "furious" that he could not assist the Americans in Benghazi. "That's what he wanted to do."

Top Diplomat in Tripoli: Pentagon Told Special Forces to 'Stand Down'

The supposed 'stand down' order has been debunked by every investigation

You proclaiming it doesn't make it fact. Testimony from those special forces who were told to stay put carries a lot more weight than your partisan comments.

Again, the findings of every investigation says there was no stand down order. This question is not in dispute, it is established fact. There was no stand down order given

Seems some folks don't agree with you assessment there pard.

Benghazi Bombshell: Stand Down Orders Were Given - Truth And Action


U.S. Commandos: We Were Ordered To “Stand Down” During Benghazi Attack

While the Obama Administration contends that no stand down orders were given in Benghazi, testimony recently given in front of the House Intelligence Committee has show this to be yet another “Obama lie”.

“The whole issue about stand down orders is not an issue. There clearly were stand down orders given to people not only in Benghazi but also in Tripoli and the State Department’s counterterrorism team.” says Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., who sits on the House Intelligence Committee.

I don’t know about you, but this makes me livid! It should send us out looking for the nearest tree, and prompt the question “Anyone got any rope?”

some don't, they're wrong. the investigations found there was no 'stand down' order.