More proof Trump thinks Trumpettes are stupid.

[RealDave]

Wrong again, anus breath!

I never liked McCain politically, but I refuse to let people get away with lying about anyone. There are probably millions out there that still blame McCain for the fire on the USS Forrestal because they refuse to even bother researching the facts.

I was serving fro 1978 to 1994 on active duty and stayed in the IRR another 7 years.

Now, what were you bitching about? Oh, that's right. You are off topic for the thread and trying to stir the shit pot. Carry on, dumbass!

This whole thread is nothing but a shit pot. And you don't seem to mind the lies told about Trump.

But that's not at all surprising.

Funny chit. The lies told about Trump? You mean the lies told by Trump.

What lies are being told bout Trump?

You don't even read your own posts?

That would explain a lot, actually.

You forgot to list some of these lies told about Trump.

Couldn't find one?

Here's some. You will not accept they're lies, because of your irrational hatred.

1) Is Trump a billionaire? Prove it.
2) Trump has failed in many of his attempts at business efforts. His father bankrolled him to get started & bailed him out several times.
3) "“He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

More proof Trump thinks Trumpettes are stupid

Kind of amusing how you think Trump thinks his supporters are stupid (not necessarily saying you're wrong, either), but you don't believe the Clintons think you're stupid.

Not at all.

Hillery survives two Republican attacks on her integrity & lost. She testified when asked to do so.

Hillary did a good job as Secretary of State.

That’s a matter of opinion, but what does that have to do with what I said?

Hillary defended herself well by telling the truth. They don't make ridiculous statements expecting their supporters to believe them.

Trump lies & expects his base to believe him. Kind of like you.

 

[Cellblock2429]

This whole thread is nothing but a shit pot. And you don't seem to mind the lies told about Trump.

But that's not at all surprising.

Funny chit. The lies told about Trump? You mean the lies told by Trump.

What lies are being told bout Trump?

You don't even read your own posts?

That would explain a lot, actually.

You forgot to list some of these lies told about Trump.

Couldn't find one?

Here's some. You will not accept they're lies, because of your irrational hatred.

1) Is Trump a billionaire? Prove it.
2) Trump has failed in many of his attempts at business efforts. His father bankrolled him to get started & bailed him out several times.
3) "“He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

More proof Trump thinks Trumpettes are stupid

Kind of amusing how you think Trump thinks his supporters are stupid (not necessarily saying you're wrong, either), but you don't believe the Clintons think you're stupid.

Not at all.

Hillery survives two Republican attacks on her integrity & lost. She testified when asked to do so.

Hillary did a good job as Secretary of State.

That’s a matter of opinion, but what does that have to do with what I said?

Hillary defended herself well by telling the truth. They don't make ridiculous statements expecting their supporters to believe them.

Trump lies & expects his base to believe him. Kind of like you.

/——-/ So? You keep fighting battles long since set aside. We’ve refuted points one and two so many times, it’s tedious. Trump has a right to say what he thinks about POWs not being heroes. I disagree but it’s his opinion. And when did Hildabeast testify under oath?

 

[RealDave]

Wrong again, anus breath!

I never liked McCain politically, but I refuse to let people get away with lying about anyone. There are probably millions out there that still blame McCain for the fire on the USS Forrestal because they refuse to even bother researching the facts.

I was serving fro 1978 to 1994 on active duty and stayed in the IRR another 7 years.

Now, what were you bitching about? Oh, that's right. You are off topic for the thread and trying to stir the shit pot. Carry on, dumbass!

This whole thread is nothing but a shit pot. And you don't seem to mind the lies told about Trump.

But that's not at all surprising.

Funny chit. The lies told about Trump? You mean the lies told by Trump.

What lies are being told bout Trump?

You don't even read your own posts?

That would explain a lot, actually.

You forgot to list some of these lies told about Trump.

Couldn't find one?

Here's some. You will not accept they're lies, because of your irrational hatred.

There is no proof Trump is a billionaire at all.

Trump was handed millions from his father along with business contacts & several bailouts. Good businessmen don't cheat their subcontractors & don't have to lie to sell units in their buildings. Good businessmen donl;t need to bully people.

No one said Trump said all were rapists but he did infer that most were. "bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." So he most people were bringing in drugs. criminals & rapists and only some were good people.

AS for what he said about John McCain: "He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” So not only did your hero trash McCain's service but all POWs.

Oh, and yes, Trump is a draft dodger.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

WTF are you babbling about now? McCain came home with the rest of the POWs. Sealing records? WTF, over?

Pay attention.

The Pentagon had been withholding significant information from POW families for years. What’s more, the Pentagon’s POW/MIA operation had been publicly shamed by internal whistleblowers and POW families for holding back documents as part of a policy of “debunking” POW intelligence even when the information was obviously credible.

The pressure from the families and Vietnam veterans finally forced the creation, in late 1991, of a Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. The chairman was John Kerry. McCain, as a former POW, was its most pivotal member. In the end, the committee became part of the debunking machine.


One of the sharpest critics of the Pentagon’s performance was an insider, Air Force Lt. Gen. Eugene Tighe, who headed the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) during the 1970s. He openly challenged the Pentagon’s position that no live prisoners existed, saying that the evidence proved otherwise. McCain was a bitter opponent of Tighe, who was eventually pushed into retirement.

Included in the evidence that McCain and his government allies suppressed or sought to discredit is a transcript of a senior North Vietnamese general’s briefing of the Hanoi politburo, discovered in Soviet archives by an American scholar in 1993. The briefing took place only four months before the 1973 peace accords. The general, Tran Van Quang, told the politburo members that Hanoi was holding 1,205 American prisoners but would keep many of them at war’s end as leverage to ensure getting war reparations from Washington.

Throughout the Paris negotiations, the North Vietnamese tied the prisoner issue tightly to the issue of reparations. They were adamant in refusing to deal with them separately. Finally, in a Feb. 2, 1973 formal letter to Hanoi’s premier, Pham Van Dong, Nixon pledged $3.25 billion in “postwar reconstruction” aid “without any political conditions.” But he also attached to the letter a codicil that said the aid would be implemented by each party “in accordance with its own constitutional provisions.” That meant Congress would have to approve the appropriation, and Nixon and Kissinger knew well that Congress was in no mood to do so. The North Vietnamese, whether or not they immediately understood the double-talk in the letter, remained skeptical about the reparations promise being honored—and it never was. Hanoi thus appears to have held back prisoners—just as it had done when the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu in 1954 and withdrew their forces from Vietnam. In that case, France paid ransoms for prisoners and brought them home.

In a private briefing in 1992, high-level CIA officials told me that as the years passed and the ransom never came, it became more and more difficult for either government to admit that it knew from the start about the unacknowledged prisoners. Those prisoners had not only become useless as bargaining chips but also posed a risk to Hanoi’s desire to be accepted into the international community. The CIA officials said their intelligence indicated strongly that the remaining men—those who had not died from illness or hard labor or torture—were eventually executed.

...

An early and critical McCain secrecy move involved 1990 legislation that started in the House of Representatives. A brief and simple document, it was called “the Truth Bill” and would have compelled complete transparency about prisoners and missing men. Its core sentence reads: “[The] head of each department or agency which holds or receives any records and information, including live-sighting reports, which have been correlated or possibly correlated to United States personnel listed as prisoner of war or missing in action from World War II, the Korean conflict and the Vietnam conflict, shall make available to the public all such records held or received by that department or agency.”

Bitterly opposed by the Pentagon (and thus McCain), the bill went nowhere. Reintroduced the following year, it again disappeared. But a few months later, a new measure, known as “the McCain Bill,”suddenly appeared. By creating a bureaucratic maze from which only a fraction of the documents could emerge—only records that revealed no POW secrets—it turned the Truth Bill on its head. The McCain bill became law in 1991 and remains so today. So crushing to transparency are its provisions that it actually spells out for the Pentagon and other agencies several rationales, scenarios, and justifications for not releasing any information at all—even about prisoners discovered alive in captivity. Later that year, the Senate Select Committee was created, where Kerry and McCain ultimately worked together to bury evidence.

McCain was also instrumental in amending the Missing Service Personnel Act, which had been strengthened in 1995 by POW advocates to include criminal penalties, saying, “Any government official who knowingly and willfully withholds from the file of a missing person any information relating to the disappearance or whereabouts and status of a missing person shall be fined as provided in Title 18 or imprisoned not more than one year or both.” A year later, in a closed House-Senate conference on an unrelated military bill, McCain, at the behest of the Pentagon, attached a crippling amendment to the act, stripping out its only enforcement teeth, the criminal penalties, and reducing the obligations of commanders in the field to speedily search for missing men and to report the incidents to the Pentagon.

About the relaxation of POW/MIA obligations on commanders in the field, a public McCain memo said, “This transfers the bureaucracy involved out of the [battle] field to Washington.” He wrote that the original legislation, if left intact, “would accomplish nothing but create new jobs for lawyers and turn military commanders into clerks.”

McCain argued that keeping the criminal penalties would have made it impossible for the Pentagon to find staffers willing to work on POW/MIA matters. That’s an odd argument to make. Were staffers only “willing to work” if they were allowed to conceal POW records? By eviscerating the law, McCain gave his stamp of approval to the government policy of debunking the existence of live POWs.

McCain has insisted again and again that all the evidence—documents, witnesses, satellite photos, two Pentagon chiefs’ sworn testimony, aborted rescue missions, ransom offers apparently scorned—has been woven together by unscrupulous deceivers to create an insidious and unpatriotic myth. He calls it the “bizarre rantings of the MIA hobbyists.” He has regularly vilified those who keep trying to pry out classified documents as “hoaxers,” “charlatans,” “conspiracy theorists,” and “dime-store Rambos.”

Some of McCain’s fellow captives at Hoa Lo prison in Hanoi didn’t share his views about prisoners left behind. Before he died of leukemia in 1999, retired Col. Ted Guy, a highly admired POW and one of the most dogged resisters in the camps, wrote an angry open letter to the senator in an MIA newsletter—a response to McCain’s stream of insults hurled at MIA activists. Guy wrote, “John, does this [the insults] include Senator Bob Smith [a New Hampshire Republican and activist on POW issues] and other concerned elected officials? Does this include the families of the missing where there is overwhelming evidence that their loved ones were ‘last known alive’? Does this include some of your fellow POWs?”
​

This is the man the left now venerates.

All you provided were ancient fucking fantasies that time has proven to be just that. Post your bullshit in the conspiracy theory thread where it belongs.

Lemme guess -- you screeched against McCain's candidacy but started sucking his ass when he criticized Trump, too, didn't you?

Assuming you're old enough to remember McCain's candidacy. I was on active duty at the time. I didn't like his involvement in abandoning American POWs to Communist torture.

Wrong again, anus breath!

I never liked McCain politically, but I refuse to let people get away with lying about anyone. There are probably millions out there that still blame McCain for the fire on the USS Forrestal because they refuse to even bother researching the facts.

I was serving fro 1978 to 1994 on active duty and stayed in the IRR another 7 years.

Now, what were you bitching about? Oh, that's right. You are off topic for the thread and trying to stir the shit pot. Carry on, dumbass!

This whole thread is nothing but a shit pot. And you don't seem to mind the lies told about Trump.

But that's not at all surprising.

Where have I said anything of the sort, dumbass? Quote it or withdraw your statement.

 

[RealDave]

Funny chit. The lies told about Trump? You mean the lies told by Trump.

What lies are being told bout Trump?

You don't even read your own posts?

That would explain a lot, actually.

You forgot to list some of these lies told about Trump.

Couldn't find one?

Here's some. You will not accept they're lies, because of your irrational hatred.

1) Is Trump a billionaire? Prove it.
2) Trump has failed in many of his attempts at business efforts. His father bankrolled him to get started & bailed him out several times.
3) "“He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

More proof Trump thinks Trumpettes are stupid

Kind of amusing how you think Trump thinks his supporters are stupid (not necessarily saying you're wrong, either), but you don't believe the Clintons think you're stupid.

Not at all.

Hillery survives two Republican attacks on her integrity & lost. She testified when asked to do so.

Hillary did a good job as Secretary of State.

That’s a matter of opinion, but what does that have to do with what I said?

Hillary defended herself well by telling the truth. They don't make ridiculous statements expecting their supporters to believe them.

Trump lies & expects his base to believe him. Kind of like you.

/——-/ So? You keep fighting battles long since set aside. We’ve refuted points one and two so many times, it’s tedious. Trump has a right to say what he thinks about POWs not being heroes. I disagree but it’s his opinion. And when did Hildabeast testify under oath?

You support a man that trashed our veterans. Just as I said.

 

[daveman]

Read the article, dumbass -- unless you're chickenshit.

I read all the articles I need to """I like my heroes not captured""???....Because of his family they were going to free him ,,,,he refused

And when he got back, he had POW records sealed -- dooming any of his fellow American servicemembers still being held.

He was a piece of shit. No wonder Democrats venerate him.

Let me know how you survived as a POW after being shot down. Anything even close.

Let me know when you put on the uniform and offered to defend the Constitution with your life.

I was drafted and didn't use some bs excuse for getting out Was there when JFK was killed

Thank you for your service. Did you serve with anyone with bone spurs? Hint: No, you didn't. That's because it's a disqualifying condition.

 

[daveman]

This whole thread is nothing but a shit pot. And you don't seem to mind the lies told about Trump.

But that's not at all surprising.

Funny chit. The lies told about Trump? You mean the lies told by Trump.

What lies are being told bout Trump?

You don't even read your own posts?

That would explain a lot, actually.

You forgot to list some of these lies told about Trump.

Couldn't find one?

Here's some. You will not accept they're lies, because of your irrational hatred.

1) Is Trump a billionaire? Prove it.
2) Trump has failed in many of his attempts at business efforts. His father bankrolled him to get started & bailed him out several times.
3) "“He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

"You will not accept they're lies, because of your irrational hatred."

It's like telling you, "Hey, you're about to step into that puddle", and you immediately step into that puddle.

 

[edward37]

I read all the articles I need to """I like my heroes not captured""???....Because of his family they were going to free him ,,,,he refused

And when he got back, he had POW records sealed -- dooming any of his fellow American servicemembers still being held.

He was a piece of shit. No wonder Democrats venerate him.

Let me know how you survived as a POW after being shot down. Anything even close.

Let me know when you put on the uniform and offered to defend the Constitution with your life.

I was drafted and didn't use some bs excuse for getting out Was there when JFK was killed

Thank you for your service. Did you serve with anyone with bone spurs? Hint: No, you didn't. That's because it's a disqualifying condition.

I did serve with some one involved in a tank explosion and was still serving so they could care for him he could kick a football 80 yards

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Pentagon shifting $1.5 billion to border wall construction

House passes plus-upped disaster aid package


"he House passed a $19.1 billion disaster aid package to help victims of recent storms and flooding rebuild, with the price tag growing by about $1.8 billion on the floor through amendments to add funds for repairing damaged military facilities, highways, levees, dams and more."

The military found 1,5 billion that ot did not need to build the wall while they were in Congress begging for 1.8 billion more to repairs from hurricane damage.

(Sometimes I forget how uninformed Trumpettes are as they continually whine for links on what should be common knowledge)

Irony is the OP trying to insult our intelligence with those sentences.

 

[daveman]

This whole thread is nothing but a shit pot. And you don't seem to mind the lies told about Trump.

But that's not at all surprising.

Funny chit. The lies told about Trump? You mean the lies told by Trump.

What lies are being told bout Trump?

You don't even read your own posts?

That would explain a lot, actually.

You forgot to list some of these lies told about Trump.

Couldn't find one?

Here's some. You will not accept they're lies, because of your irrational hatred.

There is no proof Trump is a billionaire at all.

Trump was handed millions from his father along with business contacts & several bailouts. Good businessmen don't cheat their subcontractors & don't have to lie to sell units in their buildings. Good businessmen donl;t need to bully people.

No one said Trump said all were rapists but he did infer that most were. "bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." So he most people were bringing in drugs. criminals & rapists and only some were good people.

AS for what he said about John McCain: "He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” So not only did your hero trash McCain's service but all POWs.

Oh, and yes, Trump is a draft dodger.

Hey, don't step into that puddle.

 

[daveman]

Pay attention.

The Pentagon had been withholding significant information from POW families for years. What’s more, the Pentagon’s POW/MIA operation had been publicly shamed by internal whistleblowers and POW families for holding back documents as part of a policy of “debunking” POW intelligence even when the information was obviously credible.

The pressure from the families and Vietnam veterans finally forced the creation, in late 1991, of a Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. The chairman was John Kerry. McCain, as a former POW, was its most pivotal member. In the end, the committee became part of the debunking machine.


One of the sharpest critics of the Pentagon’s performance was an insider, Air Force Lt. Gen. Eugene Tighe, who headed the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) during the 1970s. He openly challenged the Pentagon’s position that no live prisoners existed, saying that the evidence proved otherwise. McCain was a bitter opponent of Tighe, who was eventually pushed into retirement.

Included in the evidence that McCain and his government allies suppressed or sought to discredit is a transcript of a senior North Vietnamese general’s briefing of the Hanoi politburo, discovered in Soviet archives by an American scholar in 1993. The briefing took place only four months before the 1973 peace accords. The general, Tran Van Quang, told the politburo members that Hanoi was holding 1,205 American prisoners but would keep many of them at war’s end as leverage to ensure getting war reparations from Washington.

Throughout the Paris negotiations, the North Vietnamese tied the prisoner issue tightly to the issue of reparations. They were adamant in refusing to deal with them separately. Finally, in a Feb. 2, 1973 formal letter to Hanoi’s premier, Pham Van Dong, Nixon pledged $3.25 billion in “postwar reconstruction” aid “without any political conditions.” But he also attached to the letter a codicil that said the aid would be implemented by each party “in accordance with its own constitutional provisions.” That meant Congress would have to approve the appropriation, and Nixon and Kissinger knew well that Congress was in no mood to do so. The North Vietnamese, whether or not they immediately understood the double-talk in the letter, remained skeptical about the reparations promise being honored—and it never was. Hanoi thus appears to have held back prisoners—just as it had done when the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu in 1954 and withdrew their forces from Vietnam. In that case, France paid ransoms for prisoners and brought them home.

In a private briefing in 1992, high-level CIA officials told me that as the years passed and the ransom never came, it became more and more difficult for either government to admit that it knew from the start about the unacknowledged prisoners. Those prisoners had not only become useless as bargaining chips but also posed a risk to Hanoi’s desire to be accepted into the international community. The CIA officials said their intelligence indicated strongly that the remaining men—those who had not died from illness or hard labor or torture—were eventually executed.

...

An early and critical McCain secrecy move involved 1990 legislation that started in the House of Representatives. A brief and simple document, it was called “the Truth Bill” and would have compelled complete transparency about prisoners and missing men. Its core sentence reads: “[The] head of each department or agency which holds or receives any records and information, including live-sighting reports, which have been correlated or possibly correlated to United States personnel listed as prisoner of war or missing in action from World War II, the Korean conflict and the Vietnam conflict, shall make available to the public all such records held or received by that department or agency.”

Bitterly opposed by the Pentagon (and thus McCain), the bill went nowhere. Reintroduced the following year, it again disappeared. But a few months later, a new measure, known as “the McCain Bill,”suddenly appeared. By creating a bureaucratic maze from which only a fraction of the documents could emerge—only records that revealed no POW secrets—it turned the Truth Bill on its head. The McCain bill became law in 1991 and remains so today. So crushing to transparency are its provisions that it actually spells out for the Pentagon and other agencies several rationales, scenarios, and justifications for not releasing any information at all—even about prisoners discovered alive in captivity. Later that year, the Senate Select Committee was created, where Kerry and McCain ultimately worked together to bury evidence.

McCain was also instrumental in amending the Missing Service Personnel Act, which had been strengthened in 1995 by POW advocates to include criminal penalties, saying, “Any government official who knowingly and willfully withholds from the file of a missing person any information relating to the disappearance or whereabouts and status of a missing person shall be fined as provided in Title 18 or imprisoned not more than one year or both.” A year later, in a closed House-Senate conference on an unrelated military bill, McCain, at the behest of the Pentagon, attached a crippling amendment to the act, stripping out its only enforcement teeth, the criminal penalties, and reducing the obligations of commanders in the field to speedily search for missing men and to report the incidents to the Pentagon.

About the relaxation of POW/MIA obligations on commanders in the field, a public McCain memo said, “This transfers the bureaucracy involved out of the [battle] field to Washington.” He wrote that the original legislation, if left intact, “would accomplish nothing but create new jobs for lawyers and turn military commanders into clerks.”

McCain argued that keeping the criminal penalties would have made it impossible for the Pentagon to find staffers willing to work on POW/MIA matters. That’s an odd argument to make. Were staffers only “willing to work” if they were allowed to conceal POW records? By eviscerating the law, McCain gave his stamp of approval to the government policy of debunking the existence of live POWs.

McCain has insisted again and again that all the evidence—documents, witnesses, satellite photos, two Pentagon chiefs’ sworn testimony, aborted rescue missions, ransom offers apparently scorned—has been woven together by unscrupulous deceivers to create an insidious and unpatriotic myth. He calls it the “bizarre rantings of the MIA hobbyists.” He has regularly vilified those who keep trying to pry out classified documents as “hoaxers,” “charlatans,” “conspiracy theorists,” and “dime-store Rambos.”

Some of McCain’s fellow captives at Hoa Lo prison in Hanoi didn’t share his views about prisoners left behind. Before he died of leukemia in 1999, retired Col. Ted Guy, a highly admired POW and one of the most dogged resisters in the camps, wrote an angry open letter to the senator in an MIA newsletter—a response to McCain’s stream of insults hurled at MIA activists. Guy wrote, “John, does this [the insults] include Senator Bob Smith [a New Hampshire Republican and activist on POW issues] and other concerned elected officials? Does this include the families of the missing where there is overwhelming evidence that their loved ones were ‘last known alive’? Does this include some of your fellow POWs?”
​

This is the man the left now venerates.

All you provided were ancient fucking fantasies that time has proven to be just that. Post your bullshit in the conspiracy theory thread where it belongs.

Lemme guess -- you screeched against McCain's candidacy but started sucking his ass when he criticized Trump, too, didn't you?

Assuming you're old enough to remember McCain's candidacy. I was on active duty at the time. I didn't like his involvement in abandoning American POWs to Communist torture.

Wrong again, anus breath!

I never liked McCain politically, but I refuse to let people get away with lying about anyone. There are probably millions out there that still blame McCain for the fire on the USS Forrestal because they refuse to even bother researching the facts.

I was serving fro 1978 to 1994 on active duty and stayed in the IRR another 7 years.

Now, what were you bitching about? Oh, that's right. You are off topic for the thread and trying to stir the shit pot. Carry on, dumbass!

This whole thread is nothing but a shit pot. And you don't seem to mind the lies told about Trump.

But that's not at all surprising.

Where have I said anything of the sort, dumbass? Quote it or withdraw your statement.

Where have you corrected anyone for lying about Trump?

 

[daveman]

And when he got back, he had POW records sealed -- dooming any of his fellow American servicemembers still being held.

He was a piece of shit. No wonder Democrats venerate him.

Let me know how you survived as a POW after being shot down. Anything even close.

Let me know when you put on the uniform and offered to defend the Constitution with your life.

I was drafted and didn't use some bs excuse for getting out Was there when JFK was killed

Thank you for your service. Did you serve with anyone with bone spurs? Hint: No, you didn't. That's because it's a disqualifying condition.

I did serve with some one involved in a tank explosion and was still serving so they could care for him he could kick a football 80 yards

Okay. What's that got to do with the subject at hand?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

All you provided were ancient fucking fantasies that time has proven to be just that. Post your bullshit in the conspiracy theory thread where it belongs.

Lemme guess -- you screeched against McCain's candidacy but started sucking his ass when he criticized Trump, too, didn't you?

Assuming you're old enough to remember McCain's candidacy. I was on active duty at the time. I didn't like his involvement in abandoning American POWs to Communist torture.

Wrong again, anus breath!

I never liked McCain politically, but I refuse to let people get away with lying about anyone. There are probably millions out there that still blame McCain for the fire on the USS Forrestal because they refuse to even bother researching the facts.

I was serving fro 1978 to 1994 on active duty and stayed in the IRR another 7 years.

Now, what were you bitching about? Oh, that's right. You are off topic for the thread and trying to stir the shit pot. Carry on, dumbass!

This whole thread is nothing but a shit pot. And you don't seem to mind the lies told about Trump.

But that's not at all surprising.

Where have I said anything of the sort, dumbass? Quote it or withdraw your statement.

Where have you corrected anyone for lying about Trump?

All day every day. Now, stop deflecting and show where I have supported people lying about Trump. dumbass! You accused me of it, now prove it!

 

[daveman]

Lemme guess -- you screeched against McCain's candidacy but started sucking his ass when he criticized Trump, too, didn't you?

Assuming you're old enough to remember McCain's candidacy. I was on active duty at the time. I didn't like his involvement in abandoning American POWs to Communist torture.

Wrong again, anus breath!

I never liked McCain politically, but I refuse to let people get away with lying about anyone. There are probably millions out there that still blame McCain for the fire on the USS Forrestal because they refuse to even bother researching the facts.

I was serving fro 1978 to 1994 on active duty and stayed in the IRR another 7 years.

Now, what were you bitching about? Oh, that's right. You are off topic for the thread and trying to stir the shit pot. Carry on, dumbass!

This whole thread is nothing but a shit pot. And you don't seem to mind the lies told about Trump.

But that's not at all surprising.

Where have I said anything of the sort, dumbass? Quote it or withdraw your statement.

Where have you corrected anyone for lying about Trump?

All day every day. Now,stop deflecting and show where I have supported people lying about Trump. dumbass! You accused me of it, now prove it!

RealDave has told lies about Trump in this very thread.

You have not corrected him.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Then maybe you should stop buying their drugs.

Sorry but I do not do any drugs.
But keep blaming the cartels when they just fill a market created right here in the US.

We should be helping these countries instesd of cutting their funding & whining about the refugees created.

And by "we", you mean "everybody but me".

You sure are generous with other people's money.

And if you don't do drugs, was it head trauma that made you the way you are?

Always wear your helmets, kids.

I pay taxes & I support using that tax money to help countries in trouble because of our thirst for drugs.

Its called education & intelligence. I knew a dumbfuck like you could not recognize it.

Help them how?

Help them fight the cartels, help make their countries safer for their people & thereby reduce the need to flee.

Cartels own the politicians. So how would you help them? Send in the marines?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Help them fight the cartels, help make their countries safer for their people & thereby reduce the need to flee.

Cartels own the politicians. So how would you help them? Send in the marines?

I've said before that's pretty much what you'd have to do. Have the military fly into Mexico and bomb the cartel compounds. Of course, doing that without the permission of the Mexican government would be an act of war.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Help them fight the cartels, help make their countries safer for their people & thereby reduce the need to flee.

Cartels own the politicians. So how would you help them? Send in the marines?

I've said before that's pretty much what you'd have to do. Have the military fly into Mexico and bomb the cartel compounds. Of course, doing that without the permission of the Mexican government would be an act of war.

And with the Mexican Govt under the influence of the cartels you would never get that permission. Hence you build a wall and try to protect your borders or declare war on Mexico.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Help them fight the cartels, help make their countries safer for their people & thereby reduce the need to flee.

Cartels own the politicians. So how would you help them? Send in the marines?

I've said before that's pretty much what you'd have to do. Have the military fly into Mexico and bomb the cartel compounds. Of course, doing that without the permission of the Mexican government would be an act of war.

And with the Mexican Govt under the influence of the cartels you would never get that permission. Hence you build a wall and try to protect your borders or declare war on Mexico.

Building a wall will not keep the cartels out of the country

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Help them fight the cartels, help make their countries safer for their people & thereby reduce the need to flee.

Cartels own the politicians. So how would you help them? Send in the marines?

I've said before that's pretty much what you'd have to do. Have the military fly into Mexico and bomb the cartel compounds. Of course, doing that without the permission of the Mexican government would be an act of war.

And with the Mexican Govt under the influence of the cartels you would never get that permission. Hence you build a wall and try to protect your borders or declare war on Mexico.

Building a wall will not keep the cartels out of the country

It will make it more difficult to smuggle people, which is their new “drug”. I think Doing nothing is a mistake.

 

[edward37]

Let me know how you survived as a POW after being shot down. Anything even close.

Let me know when you put on the uniform and offered to defend the Constitution with your life.

I was drafted and didn't use some bs excuse for getting out Was there when JFK was killed

Thank you for your service. Did you serve with anyone with bone spurs? Hint: No, you didn't. That's because it's a disqualifying condition.

I did serve with some one involved in a tank explosion and was still serving so they could care for him he could kick a football 80 yards

Okay. What's that got to do with the subject at hand?

What I related was with some one who really had a need Your AH in the presidency is a slacker a yellow bellied pos