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Record Events for Wed Jul 6, 2011 through Tue Jul 12, 2011
High Temperatures: 445
Low Temperatures: 93
HAMweather Climate Center - Record High Temperatures for The Past Week - Continental US View
He's proud that he has not stopped despite recent requests for sanity in his threads.Chris still posting numbers and colorful pics I see.. LOL Hallowed is the Goracle...
When faced with the facts, the right has only insults.
That's when you know they have lost the argument.
Record Events for Wed Jul 6, 2011 through Tue Jul 12, 2011
High Temperatures: 445
Low Temperatures: 93
HAMweather Climate Center - Record High Temperatures for The Past Week - Continental US View
Dude you just pull up some weather reports and call it proof of climate change. Lets review; weather is what is happening now and in the recent past locally and climate is what has happened over the last several thousand years globally. Got it?
Record Events for Wed Jul 6, 2011 through Tue Jul 12, 2011
High Temperatures: 445
Low Temperatures: 93
HAMweather Climate Center - Record High Temperatures for The Past Week - Continental US View
Dude you just pull up some weather reports and call it proof of climate change. Lets review; weather is what is happening now and in the recent past locally and climate is what has happened over the last several thousand years globally. Got it?
Weather is in the here and now, but climate is weather over the longer term avg'ed. Weather can be 46f and raining as your dealing with a low pressure area, but climate is the collection of data showing what constitutes what is the overall avg for a place on earth.
What is a place on earth---Lets say Portland Oregon, where I live. The climate of Portland is rainy from Oct-April and drier and warm from May-Sept. That one point with many years of data you can get a picture of the climate. That is climate...Your right in a broad sense about the earth's overall climate of course.
You can have a avg for January here of 46f over the past 30 years. That means some years when you avg the high's up it can be above that and of course below that, but you get a monthly avg of 46f. You can do this for daily or weekly, which within Portland you start out near 42-43f, but then go up to near 48-49f by the last week of the month. You can do this for rainfall to.
You can scale that up to western Oregon or the state of your choice. Eastern Oregon is going to have a hugely different climate then western because of the rain shallow effect. So the coast range and cascades can get 60-70 inches a year; Portland 36 inches per year; Eastern Oregon 8-12 inches.
So you got time scale, which can be for what is normal for a day, week, month or even a year over different scales of time. It DOESN"T needs to be thousands of years. Of course you can do that....
Next is the scale you wish to find the climate for. From your back yard over 3-4 years you can start to get a idea(of course this last part is time frame), but you can also get it for your state, nation or of course as you say globally.
Overall global climate changes can happen at scales of thousands of years as you say, but can happen within dozens of decades like the younger dyes of 8,500 years ago or maybe the warm and cold cycles that we enjoy as a planet like the little ice age or mid evil warm period.
Chris is posting events from this summer. If you want to establish a trend with just one data point, go for it, but don't expect a standing ovation.When one finds a consistent pattern of record breaking heat events and that trend continues over decades, that is a significant bit of data.
Denial of such obvious facts is simply ignorant.
Those data points and trends do not tell us their cause, or their cure, either.
But denying the statsitically obvious is something that only faith based thinkers can take much comfort in.
Constant denial of disagreeing scientific evidence, proof of contamination in your data sets and methods plus the outright rampant fraud and abuse of the 'peer review' process do not count as effective debate methods.He's proud that he has not stopped despite recent requests for sanity in his threads.Chris still posting numbers and colorful pics I see.. LOL Hallowed is the Goracle...
When faced with the facts, the right has only insults.
That's when you know they have lost the argument.
(CNN) -- Searing temperatures kept a firm grip on more than a handful southern states Thursday as forecasters warned of new areas of excessive heat for the weekend.
The number of states under heat advisories has diminished to seven. At its peak, the heat wave spread from the Plains to the Northeast, covering more than 20 states.
The National Weather Service is forecasting new hot spots in sections of Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma and Arkansas.
"Warm and moist air in concert with clear skies will allow temperatures to rise about 100 degrees and will allow heat indices to rise above 105 degrees through at least Monday," the weather service said.
Nowhere has the heat been more persistent than Oklahoma.
In Norman, the capital, Chris McBee said he was able to fry an egg on the dashboard of his car, using just the heat of the car's interior, which was 181 degrees.
"I tried it; I didn't think it would work," said McBee. "It's been this hot before. ... I (fried an egg) last year where I just did it on the concrete."
Heat will bake Southern, Midwest states right through the weekend - CNN.com
When one finds a consistent pattern of record breaking heat events and that trend continues over decades, that is a significant bit of data.
Denial of such obvious facts is simply ignorant.
Those data points and trends do not tell us their cause, or their cure, either.
But denying the statsitically obvious is something that only faith based thinkers can take much comfort in.
When one finds a consistent pattern of record breaking heat events and that trend continues over decades, that is a significant bit of data.
Denial of such obvious facts is simply ignorant.
Those data points and trends do not tell us their cause, or their cure, either.
But denying the statsitically obvious is something that only faith based thinkers can take much comfort in.
All of the record heat comes with the sun at its lowest level of activity in 80 years.
Why?
When one finds a consistent pattern of record breaking heat events and that trend continues over decades, that is a significant bit of data.
Denial of such obvious facts is simply ignorant.
Those data points and trends do not tell us their cause, or their cure, either.
But denying the statsitically obvious is something that only faith based thinkers can take much comfort in.
All of the record heat comes with the sun at its lowest level of activity in 80 years.
Why?
Quick review: The sun's position in our solar system and galaxy relative to other galaxies and their position in the universe, the relative activity of the sun and other nearby radiation emitting stars which may effect our solar system, and various other elements known or as of yet unknown, the amount of cloud cover we receive in various areas of the planet (like over a desert or ocean) can and will effect our own climate far more than a trace gas making up 0.0387% of our atmosphere.
The fact is you are not even touching the tip of the proverbial iceberg when it comes to climate by pointing at CO2 like a hunting dog. Their are so many more things out there that effect our climate you are missing the forest view because the trees are in your way.
You can try and pretend you understand the big picture by posting one small part out of a 100 thousand parts until the planet does cool and we go into an ice age, but it will not make you any more correct or knowledgeable of it.
Now when you start looking at the big picture and stop looking at climate with your blinders on I may treat you algorians a little better, but until then you will get my scorn.
All of the record heat comes with the sun at its lowest level of activity in 80 years.
Why?
Quick review: The sun's position in our solar system and galaxy relative to other galaxies and their position in the universe, the relative activity of the sun and other nearby radiation emitting stars which may effect our solar system, and various other elements known or as of yet unknown, the amount of cloud cover we receive in various areas of the planet (like over a desert or ocean) can and will effect our own climate far more than a trace gas making up 0.0387% of our atmosphere.
The fact is you are not even touching the tip of the proverbial iceberg when it comes to climate by pointing at CO2 like a hunting dog. Their are so many more things out there that effect our climate you are missing the forest view because the trees are in your way.
You can try and pretend you understand the big picture by posting one small part out of a 100 thousand parts until the planet does cool and we go into an ice age, but it will not make you any more correct or knowledgeable of it.
Now when you start looking at the big picture and stop looking at climate with your blinders on I may treat you algorians a little better, but until then you will get my scorn.
You did not answer the question.
All of the record heat comes with the sun at its lowest level of activity in 80 years.
Why?
I dont think we can be sure about the energy coming from the sun. there are a lot of different wavelengths and our ability to measure them varies. especially before satellites
Remember last winter when people were freezing their asses off in NYC and DC, and when you pointed that out to the GW crowd, they shrugged and said "that's weather, not climate"?
Last summer was the coldest I have experienced in 15 years in southern California, I didn't go to the beach a single time, and people were calling it "the year without a summer". This year it has been too cold to do anything up to about the beginning of july. We had a few normal days, now it's back to cold. Is that "climate"?
Oh wait....wait.......I've got it: when it's unusually cold, that's "weather", when it's unusually hot, that's "climate".
Lets think about the ridge as divergence at the surface, which pretty much means the air is moving inwards at the upper levels 200-300 millibars, but moving outwards as it moves to 500 to 1013 millibars. What this does is increase the pressure of the column of air and that rises the pressure. This also does the opposite of the air within a area of low pressure. Air within the northern side of the jet stream normally favors low pressure area's and is cooler as said above. Low pressure moves inward and warm moist air raises into the Atmosphere and cools towards its dew point--->this is what we call condensation once it cools to that. Clouds and rainy weather. The air raising from the surface to the 25-40 thousand feet is why a low pressure is called a low pressure, and is why it lowers the pressure as the column of air is now pressing down less pressure onto the surface.
In yes that is a difference of air pressure pressing onto the surface.
