Murder In Their Heart

[Moonglow]

Imagine how low an opinion the Democrats must have of their supporters......they admit they have no compunctions when it comes to murder of their fellow citizaens.


5. Obama doesn't hide it: he hired as his 'Science Czar' a maniac who has written about the efficacy of genocide...

Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.


"These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar. In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:

• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.

[All are from the] pages of the book 'Ecoscience,' co-authored in 1977 by John Holdren and his close colleagues Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich." John Holdren Obama s Science Czar says Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet


Actual scans of the pages of Holdren's book are at the link.


There is no humanity in the political views of Liberals/Progressives.

None.

The requested URL /db/book47_80430.html was not found on this server.

John Holdren Obama s Science Czar says Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

They may be needed.....

 

[PoliticalChic]

Imagine how low an opinion the Democrats must have of their supporters......they admit they have no compunctions when it comes to murder of their fellow citizaens.


5. Obama doesn't hide it: he hired as his 'Science Czar' a maniac who has written about the efficacy of genocide...

Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.


"These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar. In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:

• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.

[All are from the] pages of the book 'Ecoscience,' co-authored in 1977 by John Holdren and his close colleagues Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich." John Holdren Obama s Science Czar says Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet


Actual scans of the pages of Holdren's book are at the link.


There is no humanity in the political views of Liberals/Progressives.

None.

The requested URL /db/book47_80430.html was not found on this server.

John Holdren Obama s Science Czar says Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

They may be needed.....

Bingo!

Another Liberal myth: overpopulation.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Definition of insanity...starting the same the thread for the hundredth time and thinking that you're going to win an argument you've lost ninety-nine times.

 

[Moonglow]

Imagine how low an opinion the Democrats must have of their supporters......they admit they have no compunctions when it comes to murder of their fellow citizaens.


5. Obama doesn't hide it: he hired as his 'Science Czar' a maniac who has written about the efficacy of genocide...

Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.


"These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar. In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:

• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.

[All are from the] pages of the book 'Ecoscience,' co-authored in 1977 by John Holdren and his close colleagues Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich." John Holdren Obama s Science Czar says Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet


Actual scans of the pages of Holdren's book are at the link.


There is no humanity in the political views of Liberals/Progressives.

None.

The requested URL /db/book47_80430.html was not found on this server.

John Holdren Obama s Science Czar says Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

They may be needed.....

Bingo!

Another Liberal myth: overpopulation.

And here is a realist of never enough sex or kids...You must be Catholic or Muslim, maybe Hindu? A Duggar relative?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Imagine how low an opinion the Democrats must have of their supporters......they admit they have no compunctions when it comes to murder of their fellow citizaens.


5. Obama doesn't hide it: he hired as his 'Science Czar' a maniac who has written about the efficacy of genocide...

Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.


"These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar. In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:

• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.

[All are from the] pages of the book 'Ecoscience,' co-authored in 1977 by John Holdren and his close colleagues Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich." John Holdren Obama s Science Czar says Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet


Actual scans of the pages of Holdren's book are at the link.


There is no humanity in the political views of Liberals/Progressives.

None.

The requested URL /db/book47_80430.html was not found on this server.

John Holdren Obama s Science Czar says Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

They may be needed.....

He never said what's claimed. It's classic rightwing garbahge.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Definition of insanity...starting the same the thread for the hundredth time and thinking that you're going to win an argument you've lost ninety-nine times.

i've never lost, nor is it the same thread.

But, you are the NYLiar.

Don't ever change.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Imagine how low an opinion the Democrats must have of their supporters......they admit they have no compunctions when it comes to murder of their fellow citizaens.


5. Obama doesn't hide it: he hired as his 'Science Czar' a maniac who has written about the efficacy of genocide...

Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.


"These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar. In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:

• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.

[All are from the] pages of the book 'Ecoscience,' co-authored in 1977 by John Holdren and his close colleagues Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich." John Holdren Obama s Science Czar says Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet


Actual scans of the pages of Holdren's book are at the link.


There is no humanity in the political views of Liberals/Progressives.

None.

The requested URL /db/book47_80430.html was not found on this server.

John Holdren Obama s Science Czar says Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

They may be needed.....

Bingo!

Another Liberal myth: overpopulation.

And here is a realist of never enough sex or kids...You must be Catholic or Muslim, maybe Hindu? A Duggar relative?

Is this your attempt to support the myth of world-wide overpopulation?

Bulletin: the myth is merely one more attempt to justify big government.

Half-heads constantly fall for the 'sky is falling' crisis mode of Liberal governance.

1. “We began this experiment in 1933 under the pressure of an internal economic crisis. We continue and extend it under the necessities of a war crisis....It is born in crisis, lives on crisis, and cannot survive the era of crisis. By the very law of its nature it must create for itself, if it is to continue, fresh crises from year to year. …And our future is all charted out upon the same turbulent road of permanent crisis.” John T. Flynn, "As We Go Marching," p. 256

 

[PoliticalChic]

Imagine how low an opinion the Democrats must have of their supporters......they admit they have no compunctions when it comes to murder of their fellow citizaens.


5. Obama doesn't hide it: he hired as his 'Science Czar' a maniac who has written about the efficacy of genocide...

Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.


"These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar. In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:

• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.

[All are from the] pages of the book 'Ecoscience,' co-authored in 1977 by John Holdren and his close colleagues Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich." John Holdren Obama s Science Czar says Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet


Actual scans of the pages of Holdren's book are at the link.


There is no humanity in the political views of Liberals/Progressives.

None.

The requested URL /db/book47_80430.html was not found on this server.

John Holdren Obama s Science Czar says Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

They may be needed.....

He never said what's claimed. It's classic rightwing garbahge.

So THAT'S why you're known as the NYLiar.


Pages from his book, documenting exactly what I posted, are at the link.

 

[2aguy]

For Liberals/Progressives/Democrats your body belongs to the state, to the collective.

b. And..no...it's not merely in the realm of the theoretical....

" According to the Washington Post, taxpayers are now financing, via a $321,000 HHS grant, a pilot program at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center-Presbyterian Hospital and Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh to obtain organs from emergency room patients, a practice heretofore "considered off-limits in the United States because of ethical and logistical concerns."

The goal of the project, reports the paper, is to "investigate whether it is feasible and, if so, to encourage other hospitals nationwide to follow." The Future s Shadow The American Spectator



c." "There's a fine line between methods that are pioneering and methods that are predatory," said Leslie M. Whetstine, a bioethicist at Walsh University in Ohio. "This seems to me to be in the latter category. It's ghoulish." Project to get transplant organs from ER patients raises ethics questions


"....ghoulish...."
How long before soylent green appears on the menu?


But, after all....it's for the good of the collective....er,I mean... the good of the children.

Thanks to capitalism at it best........profit motive behind transplants of vital organs is very lucrative if the source is free to minimal....Oh, you though the medical community had standards, morals and ethics, why sure, girls like to have boob jobs and men like flashy cars....

"Marxism rested on the assumption that the condition of the working classes would grow ever worse under capitalism, that there would be but two classes: one small and rich, the other vast and increasingly impoverished, and revolution would be the anodyne that would result in the “common good.” But by the early 20th century, it was clear that this assumption was completely wrong!

Under capitalism, the standard of living of all was improving: prices falling, incomes rising, health and sanitation improving, lengthening of life spans, diets becoming more varied, the new jobs created in industry paid more than most could make in agriculture, housing improved, and middle class industrialists and business owners displaced nobility and gentry as heroes."
From a speech by Rev. Robert A. Sirico, President, Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty.

Delivered at Hillsdale College, October 27, 2006

Under capitalism we got the horrors of the Industrial Revolution most acutely evidenced in 19th England.

Only the rise of socialism and and modern liberalism turned that tide.

The industrial revolution is no different than when you build a house.....if you stopped by a work site in the process of building a house it is a mess. The landscape is torn up, the supplies litter the area, and there is chaos all around.....and if it were left to you NY.....the house construction would be stopped because of the "horror" of the construction process....

And then the work continues and the house is built and the landscape is regrown.........that is the truth of the industrial revolution....and add to the fact that industrialization was brand fucking new....without any prior experience in how to do it.....and you complain about it....when what came out of that capitalist endeavor was a cleaner environment, and wealth and prosperity for the vast majority of Americans...allowing us to surpass all the countries that came before us and also were industrializing......our capitalist system cleaned it up faster and made more wealth for all of our people vs. the countries where the socialists ran the industrializing process.......they were more environmentally damaging, created less wealth for their people, and advanced far slower than we did.......

That is the difference, the truth and reality....

Capitalism didn't clean itself up. The horrors of the industrial revolution were dealt with by government.

No....wealthy people, with time and money used their wealth and influence gained through captilism to improve their environment....they told their politicians they wanted things cleaned up.......the government run economies...in Russia, and China and India.......haven't cleaned up their countries yet......why? Because their people aren't wealthy enough yet to have the time or money to care.......

Tell me that a government agency that wastes, steals and loses money and can barely take care of the responisbliity the we create it for actually cleaned things up all on it's lonesome.......

Teddy Roosevelt...they guy you guys pointed to......rich....stinking rich.......and he used his money to make things better...of course he inheritted his money so he got the rest wrong.....and he came along when we were first industrializing...so you guys got that truth wrong......but his wealth gave him the time and the money to make things better......notice.....the government didn't do it before the rich guy came along.....right? Up to that point....the government did nothing to clean things up....until the rich activists had the time and money from capitalism to make things better....

You are looking at the tool....not the source of the clean up...government was the tool....captialist wealth was the source...

 

[2aguy]

Imagine how low an opinion the Democrats must have of their supporters......they admit they have no compunctions when it comes to murder of their fellow citizaens.


5. Obama doesn't hide it: he hired as his 'Science Czar' a maniac who has written about the efficacy of genocide...

Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.


"These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar. In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:

• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.

[All are from the] pages of the book 'Ecoscience,' co-authored in 1977 by John Holdren and his close colleagues Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich." http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/


Actual scans of the pages of Holdren's book are at the link.


There is no humanity in the political views of Liberals/Progressives.

None.

Come on guys....you lefties...is this guy real...is what he believes true.......I believe Politicalchic but I know you guys don't because you are lefties....but is he real.....does he exist and did he say what she says he said......yes or no......

And since it is yes.......why can't you see how dangerous they actually are......we are back in the early 1900s when stupid ideas like this were floated out there as good ideas...until the 30s came along and fellow lefties actually implemented them.....they didn't look so smart when you were looking at mass graves did they.....?

And here we have the next generation of monsters...advocating the same thing...again....in the lecture hall, in White Papers........and because they don't care about actual truth, reality or history, they don't care that what they are saying led to the slaughter of the middle and late 20th century...to them these ideas are new and can be perfected...don't you guys get that......?

 

[Impenitent]

For Liberals/Progressives/Democrats, your body belongs to the state, to the collective.

b. And..no...it's not merely in the realm of the theoretical....

" According to the Washington Post, taxpayers are now financing, via a $321,000 HHS grant, a pilot program at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center-Presbyterian Hospital and Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh to obtain organs from emergency room patients, a practice heretofore "considered off-limits in the United States because of ethical and logistical concerns."

The goal of the project, reports the paper, is to "investigate whether it is feasible and, if so, to encourage other hospitals nationwide to follow." The Future s Shadow The American Spectator



c." "There's a fine line between methods that are pioneering and methods that are predatory," said Leslie M. Whetstine, a bioethicist at Walsh University in Ohio. "This seems to me to be in the latter category. It's ghoulish." Project to get transplant organs from ER patients raises ethics questions


"....ghoulish...."
How long before soylent green appears on the menu?


But, after all....it's for the good of the collective....er,I mean... the good of the children.

In a June 1, 2008 article, the NY Times
said this:

" A similar project, financed by the same federal agency, is under way at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, though it will be limited to people who die in hospital emergency rooms.

“I applied for the grant out of my conviction that we can do better for dying patients,” said Dr. Michael DeVita, a professor of critical care medicine at the university. “I’m an I.C.U. doctor, and I want people at the end of their life to have the best care possible, for both the patient and the family. And that also involves enabling people to build a legacy that they can leave behind.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/nyregion/01organ.html?pagewanted=print&referrer=&_r=0

Notice something funny about that date?

 

[PoliticalChic]

For Liberals/Progressives/Democrats, your body belongs to the state, to the collective.

b. And..no...it's not merely in the realm of the theoretical....

" According to the Washington Post, taxpayers are now financing, via a $321,000 HHS grant, a pilot program at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center-Presbyterian Hospital and Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh to obtain organs from emergency room patients, a practice heretofore "considered off-limits in the United States because of ethical and logistical concerns."

The goal of the project, reports the paper, is to "investigate whether it is feasible and, if so, to encourage other hospitals nationwide to follow." The Future s Shadow The American Spectator



c." "There's a fine line between methods that are pioneering and methods that are predatory," said Leslie M. Whetstine, a bioethicist at Walsh University in Ohio. "This seems to me to be in the latter category. It's ghoulish." Project to get transplant organs from ER patients raises ethics questions


"....ghoulish...."
How long before soylent green appears on the menu?


But, after all....it's for the good of the collective....er,I mean... the good of the children.

In a June 1, 2008 article, the NY Times
said this:

" A similar project, financed by the same federal agency, is under way at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, though it will be limited to people who die in hospital emergency rooms.

“I applied for the grant out of my conviction that we can do better for dying patients,” said Dr. Michael DeVita, a professor of critical care medicine at the university. “I’m an I.C.U. doctor, and I want people at the end of their life to have the best care possible, for both the patient and the family. And that also involves enabling people to build a legacy that they can leave behind.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/nyregion/01organ.html?pagewanted=print&referrer=&_r=0

Notice something funny about that date?

Informative.

But did you notice a difference in what the NYTimes calls 'similar' ....

Mine refers to patients.

Yours to corpses.

 

[Impenitent]

For Liberals/Progressives/Democrats, your body belongs to the state, to the collective.

b. And..no...it's not merely in the realm of the theoretical....

" According to the Washington Post, taxpayers are now financing, via a $321,000 HHS grant, a pilot program at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center-Presbyterian Hospital and Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh to obtain organs from emergency room patients, a practice heretofore "considered off-limits in the United States because of ethical and logistical concerns."

The goal of the project, reports the paper, is to "investigate whether it is feasible and, if so, to encourage other hospitals nationwide to follow." The Future s Shadow The American Spectator



c." "There's a fine line between methods that are pioneering and methods that are predatory," said Leslie M. Whetstine, a bioethicist at Walsh University in Ohio. "This seems to me to be in the latter category. It's ghoulish." Project to get transplant organs from ER patients raises ethics questions


"....ghoulish...."
How long before soylent green appears on the menu?


But, after all....it's for the good of the collective....er,I mean... the good of the children.

In a June 1, 2008 article, the NY Times
said this:

" A similar project, financed by the same federal agency, is under way at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, though it will be limited to people who die in hospital emergency rooms.

“I applied for the grant out of my conviction that we can do better for dying patients,” said Dr. Michael DeVita, a professor of critical care medicine at the university. “I’m an I.C.U. doctor, and I want people at the end of their life to have the best care possible, for both the patient and the family. And that also involves enabling people to build a legacy that they can leave behind.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/nyregion/01organ.html?pagewanted=print&referrer=&_r=0

Notice something funny about that date?

Informative.

But did you notice a difference in what the NYTimes calls 'similar' ....

Mine refers to patients.

Yours to corpses.

It's hard to say what yours refers to, because you, as always, use hearsay sources to "quote' the original source.

Why don't you link to the original Washington Post article instead of the American Spectator?

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. The pattern is clear and evident: Liberal/Progressive/Democrat governance does not involve respect for human life.


And perhaps the clearest indication of same is another of Obama's choices, as czar of Medicare and Medicade....Donald Berwick. One would imagine that the position requires concern for the lives of the sick....but this is not the case.


a. "Another high ranking Obama administration official calls for government redistribution of wealth. ... Obama officially made Donald Berwick his recess appointment to be the administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.


In 2008 while speaking on the British health care system in the UK, Berwick said wealthy individuals must redistribute their wealth to those less fortunate for health care funding. Also during this speech,he told those in attendance that he opposes free markets.

"Any health care funding plan that is just equitable civilized and humane must, must redistribute wealth from the richer among us to the poorer and the less fortunate. Excellent health care is by definition redistributional." Flashback Donald Berwick We Must Redistribute Wealth MRCTV




7. Berwick praised Britain's socialized medicine as "a global treasure."

"Coincidentally with the announcement of Berwick's appointment, Britain's major newspaper, The Sunday Telegraph, uncovered widespread cuts in British health care that were adopted in secret and buried in obscure appendices and lengthy policy documents. These include restrictions on common operations, such as hip and knee replacements and cataract surgery, the closure of many nursing homes for the elderly, and a reduction in hospital beds and staff.

Berwick admits that redistributing health care means rationing health care, which is why he has been called a one-man Death Panel." More Unaccountable Obama Czars by Phyllis Schlafly on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent




Stealing what has been earned.....hiding policy regulations that would be inimical to those oppressed by them, and.....

Liberals....no more than a shrug about citizens dying.

 

[PoliticalChic]

For Liberals/Progressives/Democrats, your body belongs to the state, to the collective.

b. And..no...it's not merely in the realm of the theoretical....

" According to the Washington Post, taxpayers are now financing, via a $321,000 HHS grant, a pilot program at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center-Presbyterian Hospital and Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh to obtain organs from emergency room patients, a practice heretofore "considered off-limits in the United States because of ethical and logistical concerns."

The goal of the project, reports the paper, is to "investigate whether it is feasible and, if so, to encourage other hospitals nationwide to follow." The Future s Shadow The American Spectator



c." "There's a fine line between methods that are pioneering and methods that are predatory," said Leslie M. Whetstine, a bioethicist at Walsh University in Ohio. "This seems to me to be in the latter category. It's ghoulish." Project to get transplant organs from ER patients raises ethics questions


"....ghoulish...."
How long before soylent green appears on the menu?


But, after all....it's for the good of the collective....er,I mean... the good of the children.

In a June 1, 2008 article, the NY Times
said this:

" A similar project, financed by the same federal agency, is under way at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, though it will be limited to people who die in hospital emergency rooms.

“I applied for the grant out of my conviction that we can do better for dying patients,” said Dr. Michael DeVita, a professor of critical care medicine at the university. “I’m an I.C.U. doctor, and I want people at the end of their life to have the best care possible, for both the patient and the family. And that also involves enabling people to build a legacy that they can leave behind.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/nyregion/01organ.html?pagewanted=print&referrer=&_r=0

Notice something funny about that date?

Informative.

But did you notice a difference in what the NYTimes calls 'similar' ....

Mine refers to patients.

Yours to corpses.

It's hard to say what yours refers to, because you, as always, use hearsay sources to "quote' the original source.

Why don't you link to the original Washington Post article instead of the American Spectator?

Well, if the Washington Post article does refer to dead people....they you've be revealed as a real ass, wouldn't you?


Turns out my post was 100% accurate.

"Using a $321,000 grant from the Department of Health and Human Services, the emergency departments at theUniversity of Pittsburgh Medical Center-Presbyterian Hospital and Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh have started rapidly identifying donors among patients whom doctors are unable to save and taking steps to preserve their organs so a transplant team can rush to try to retrieve them."
Project to get transplant organs from ER patients raises ethics questions


You should change your avi to "RealAss" immediately .....as far as I know, no one else has it.

 

[Impenitent]

My

For Liberals/Progressives/Democrats, your body belongs to the state, to the collective.

b. And..no...it's not merely in the realm of the theoretical....

" According to the Washington Post, taxpayers are now financing, via a $321,000 HHS grant, a pilot program at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center-Presbyterian Hospital and Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh to obtain organs from emergency room patients, a practice heretofore "considered off-limits in the United States because of ethical and logistical concerns."

The goal of the project, reports the paper, is to "investigate whether it is feasible and, if so, to encourage other hospitals nationwide to follow." The Future s Shadow The American Spectator



c." "There's a fine line between methods that are pioneering and methods that are predatory," said Leslie M. Whetstine, a bioethicist at Walsh University in Ohio. "This seems to me to be in the latter category. It's ghoulish." Project to get transplant organs from ER patients raises ethics questions


"....ghoulish...."
How long before soylent green appears on the menu?


But, after all....it's for the good of the collective....er,I mean... the good of the children.

In a June 1, 2008 article, the NY Times
said this:

" A similar project, financed by the same federal agency, is under way at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, though it will be limited to people who die in hospital emergency rooms.

“I applied for the grant out of my conviction that we can do better for dying patients,” said Dr. Michael DeVita, a professor of critical care medicine at the university. “I’m an I.C.U. doctor, and I want people at the end of their life to have the best care possible, for both the patient and the family. And that also involves enabling people to build a legacy that they can leave behind.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/nyregion/01organ.html?pagewanted=print&referrer=&_r=0

Notice something funny about that date?

Informative.

But did you notice a difference in what the NYTimes calls 'similar' ....

Mine refers to patients.

Yours to corpses.

It's hard to say what yours refers to, because you, as always, use hearsay sources to "quote' the original source.

Why don't you link to the original Washington Post article instead of the American Spectator?

Well, if the Washington Post article does refer to dead people....they you've be revealed as a real ass, wouldn't you?


Turns out my post was 100% accurate.

"Using a $321,000 grant from the Department of Health and Human Services, the emergency departments at theUniversity of Pittsburgh Medical Center-Presbyterian Hospital and Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh have started rapidly identifying donors among patients whom doctors are unable to save and taking steps to preserve their organs so a transplant team can rush to try to retrieve them."
Project to get transplant organs from ER patients raises ethics questions


You should change your avi to "RealAss" immediately .....as far as I know, no one else has it.

point was that the grant you refer to was applied for and approved during the Bush administration.

 

[Edgetho]

My point was that the grant you refer to was applied for and approved during the Bush administration.

Why do libturds equate cryptic with clever?

It's a sign of a juvenile mind not unlike that of a 3rd Grader on a Playground

Waiting for the 'name game' any minute now

 

[PoliticalChic]

My

For Liberals/Progressives/Democrats, your body belongs to the state, to the collective.

b. And..no...it's not merely in the realm of the theoretical....

" According to the Washington Post, taxpayers are now financing, via a $321,000 HHS grant, a pilot program at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center-Presbyterian Hospital and Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh to obtain organs from emergency room patients, a practice heretofore "considered off-limits in the United States because of ethical and logistical concerns."

The goal of the project, reports the paper, is to "investigate whether it is feasible and, if so, to encourage other hospitals nationwide to follow." The Future s Shadow The American Spectator



c." "There's a fine line between methods that are pioneering and methods that are predatory," said Leslie M. Whetstine, a bioethicist at Walsh University in Ohio. "This seems to me to be in the latter category. It's ghoulish." Project to get transplant organs from ER patients raises ethics questions


"....ghoulish...."
How long before soylent green appears on the menu?


But, after all....it's for the good of the collective....er,I mean... the good of the children.

In a June 1, 2008 article, the NY Times
said this:

" A similar project, financed by the same federal agency, is under way at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, though it will be limited to people who die in hospital emergency rooms.

“I applied for the grant out of my conviction that we can do better for dying patients,” said Dr. Michael DeVita, a professor of critical care medicine at the university. “I’m an I.C.U. doctor, and I want people at the end of their life to have the best care possible, for both the patient and the family. And that also involves enabling people to build a legacy that they can leave behind.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/nyregion/01organ.html?pagewanted=print&referrer=&_r=0

Notice something funny about that date?

Informative.

But did you notice a difference in what the NYTimes calls 'similar' ....

Mine refers to patients.

Yours to corpses.

It's hard to say what yours refers to, because you, as always, use hearsay sources to "quote' the original source.

Why don't you link to the original Washington Post article instead of the American Spectator?

Well, if the Washington Post article does refer to dead people....they you've be revealed as a real ass, wouldn't you?


Turns out my post was 100% accurate.

"Using a $321,000 grant from the Department of Health and Human Services, the emergency departments at theUniversity of Pittsburgh Medical Center-Presbyterian Hospital and Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh have started rapidly identifying donors among patients whom doctors are unable to save and taking steps to preserve their organs so a transplant team can rush to try to retrieve them."
Project to get transplant organs from ER patients raises ethics questions


You should change your avi to "RealAss" immediately .....as far as I know, no one else has it.

point was that the grant you refer to was applied for and approved during the Bush administration.

Let's review.

1. I posted an example of Liberals/Progressives/Democrat actions much like other totalitarians, imagining that they have the right to take organs from other LIVING citizens. 'Sunstein as “routine removal,” posits that “the state owns the rights to body parts of people who are dead or in certain hopeless conditions, and it can remove their organs without asking anyone’s permission.”
Read more at Sunstein Take organs from helpless patients

2. You jumped to a 'gotcha!' in finding a NYTimes article that claimed the same from the Bush administration....2008.

3. Unfortunately, you are not astute enough to understand how the NYTimes lies....in this case inserting 'similar.'

4. But pointing to a program involving deceased, when the Obama/Sunstein plan was for taking organs from living people, is hardly 'similar.'

So....are you changing your avi to 'RealAss' now?

 

[PoliticalChic]

No one can successfully argue that 'totalitarian,' as applies to communism, Nazism, fascism, socialism, is not responsible for well over 100 million human beings slaughtered.

What is often lost in the haze is that modern Liberalism is a direct descendant of same. Especially Obama's variety.


8. "... Barack Obama came into politics from the precincts of the Harringtonian left wing. He was a member in Chicago of the socialist New Party, which grew out of the activism of the Democratic Socialists of America, which Harrington led. His past, ignored but addressed in particular by Stanley Kurtz and now by Paul Kengor, was that of the sectarian left wing of the 1970s and ’80s.

Like the Marxists, Obama said four years ago that we were on the verge of a "fundamental transformation" of the United States. What did he mean by that, if not his hope that the United States would soon become a nation more similar to the social-democratic welfare states of Europe?


So Milos Forman is correct when he says "really existing socialism," as the Marxists used to call the Stalinist regimes, was "predatory" and not merely centralized government. But the programs advocated by the sectarian "Left" today are also advocated "in the name of "social justice,'" just as Forman writes the Leninists used as the reason for their enterprise.



One can argue whether or not the Affordable Care Act, as ObamaCare is called, is a stepping stone to an American social democracy. Certainly, were he still with us, Harrington would be the first to endorse it on those grounds, just as he used that argument to get his comrades to rally around the Humphrey-Hawkins Act. The difference is that Harrington was upfront about his goals, and proud to use the name "socialist" to describe the programs he supported. Today's Left, however, prefers to hide its agenda, and instead use amorphous terms like "progressive" to hide their true purposes."
Is Obama a Socialist An Answer to Milos Forman RealClearPolitics

 

[NYcarbineer]

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1. I posted an example....

That was your first mistake.