My 28 Minutes with AOC

[Meathead]

Perhaps. The only real problem with your statement is that you are left of me.

No, your other left.

 

[TNHarley]

Yet clearly they each view the Constitution differently, or we would have 100% 9-0 votes.

Doesnt make it right. Just makes them wrong.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Doesnt make it right. Just makes them wrong.

Which one of them is wrong? The ones you do not agree with?

Seems our founding fathers understood that not everyone would see the Constitution exactly the same way and thus they set up the SC as they did

 

[TNHarley]

Which one of them is wrong? The ones you do not agree with?

Seems our founding fathers understood that not everyone would see the Constitution exactly the same way and thus they set up the SC as they did

Its written in English. Their intent is well documented. I dont understand where there would be confusion.

 

[Meathead]

Which one of them is wrong? The ones you do not agree with?

Seems our founding fathers understood that not everyone would see the Constitution exactly the same way and thus they set up the SC as they did

Wasn't really the FF, unless you consider Marshall to be one:

John Marshall - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Its written in English. Their intent is well documented.

Yet if you put 100 people in a room you will get 75 different versions of their intent.

I dont understand where there would be confusion.

If that were the case there would have been no need for SCOTUS and not one of their rulings could ever be changed

 

[BS Filter]

Do you dress and feed yourself?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Wasn't really the FF, unless you consider Marshall to be one:

John Marshall - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Did the Constitution not put the ultimate (as in Final) judicial power of the United States in the Supreme Court?

 

[Meathead]

Did the Constitution not put the ultimate (as in Final) judicial power of the United States in the Supreme Court?

Marshall established the court's powers to interpret the Constitution. Don't be lazy, read the God damned link.

 

[TNHarley]

Yet if you put 100 people in a room you will get 75 different versions of their intent.

Then those 75 people cant read

If that were the case there would have been no need for SCOTUS and not one of their rulings could ever be changed

it IS the case, actually.
The Constitution isnt a living document.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Then those 75 people cant read

Of course only your "reading" of it is the correct one!

 

[Papageorgio]

Alex (AOC to you guys and all around right wing boogeyman) is bright, articulate, lovely, and has some wonderful stances paired with a few poorly thought out (or poorly explained) views. She’ll be great in 10-15 years. Here’s 28 minutes with her but my 60 seconds worth of bullets summarizes her interview if you’d prefer below.

• Inflation is very much the result of profiteering. There is some supply chain impacts but a lot of price gouging is going on. Minimal stimulus payments to help workers aren’t moving the prices. (She’s right - look at earnings)
• Wants to wave student debt. Thinks asking students to pick up paying after the moratorium of payments ends in May is dangerous to the economy. Forgiveness is the just thing to do. President has the ability to cancel debt. Doesn’t need congress. (She’s wrong or at least it’s not a thorough answer)
• Capitalism is an unredeemable system because it concentrates all the power in the hands of the few. Says true capitalism pursues profit at the expense of the environment, people, peace, prosperity and that isn’t what works. (Not well explained what she is recommending as an alternative but nails the shortcomings of pure capitalism)
• Wants to ban congress from holding stocks. (I get it but it’s a non starter)
• Takes Manchin and Sinema to task for pushing for consensus instead of ramming voting rights through. Says blacks were allowed to vote because of the voting rights act in the 60’s, which was entirely a partisan vote, was not a consensus. Where would they fall back then? (She’s right, they blew it)
• There is no shortage of qualified Supreme Court Justices made up of Black Women and they bring a missing world view to the court.(Good short answer)
• Wants to break up Facebook as a monopoly. (Not well explained)
• Being a waitress was the most formative experience for her political career. Worked with undocumented workers, had no medical insurance, etc. (She’s one of the people - good answer)
• Friends don’t call her AOC they call her Alex. AOC came from TV reporters who were struggling with her name. She’s embraced the new nickname but still is Alex to her friends. (Nice softball question)

I don't agree with many, if any of her views on politics. I do think she was well intentioned when she first got there however, she is becoming more of an elitist in the last year or so. She also goes off on strange ideas, she somehow thought Palestinian kids were being housed in cages. For an economics major her views on economics seems woefully off the mark. I think she'll have a long career in Congress and will become another Pelosi or McConnell, a career elitist politician.

 

[Mac-7]

I don't agree with many, if any of her views on politics. I do think she was well intentioned when she first got there however, she is becoming more of an elitist in the last year or so. She also goes off on strange ideas, she somehow thought Palestinian kids were being housed in cages. For an economics major her views on economics seems woefully off the mark. I think she'll have a long career in Congress and will become another Pelosi or McConnell, a career elitist politician.

Well said

 

[TNHarley]

Of course only your "reading" of it is the correct one!

ummmm
TNHarley - "then the clouds went away and the sky turned blue. The end"
GG - (reading to himself) "then the tornados shoved a corncob up the pigs ass and he went to heaven. The end"
The constitution isnt a puzzle. Its not written in some lost, ancient language.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

ummmm
TNHarley - "then the clouds went away and the sky turned blue. The end"
GG - (reading to himself) "then the tornados shoved a corncob up the pigs ass and he went to heaven. The end"
The constitution isnt a puzzle. Its not written in some lost, ancient language.

Now you are just being disingenuous.

Even people of the same political point of view cannot agree on things like what "well regulated militia" is and what its connection to bearing arms might be.

What is an "unreasonable search and seizure"? Do you think those on this forum could all agree on what constitutes an unreasonable search or seizure? Do you think even you and I would agree 100%?

 

[kaz]

Trump actually was the leader of the party and was destructive, at least divisive if you like the grossness of him. Trump can’t be a boogeyman (learn to spell it at least).

AOC is a freshman congresswoman basically nowhere near leading the party. The right sets her up as the left leader because she is on the edge and that is what they want to argue with, not the actual policies and leaders. Using AOC is the boogeyman. Trump or Nancy Pelosi can’t be boogeymen because they are really in power. You’re officially stupid. Were you able to follow?

You're full of shit. You ass hats tried to negate Trump's presidency before he had a chance to do shit, lying little bitch. Trump was your boogie man. AOC is a little girl, she can't be anyone's boogie man

 

[TNHarley]

Even people of the same political point of view cannot agree on things like what "well regulated militia" is and what its connection to bearing arms might be.

Because they are ignorant. It is well documented what that phrase means.

What is an "unreasonable search and seizure"? Do you think those on this forum could all agree on what constitutes an unreasonable search or seizure? Do you think even you and I would agree 100%?

That has a definition.

unreasonable search and seizure

www.law.cornell.edu

An unreasonable search and seizure is a search and seizure by a law enforcement officer without a search warrant and without probable cause to believe that evidence of a crime is present.
Let me guess, you are reading it means dogs cant poop in kitty litter, right?

 

[marvin martian]

I went. Got a degree and did’t take out a single loan. Doesn’t make me any better than someone who didn’t go to college.

Clowns like you think a degree somehow makes you better than others.

That's the typical elitism of the left. Some of the dumbest people I know went to college, in some cases to so-called "elite" schools. Look at AOC, she went to a so-called "top tier" university, and the dipshit doesn't know what a garbage disposal is.

 

[AntonToo]

It IS her position son.

AOC demands ICE and the Department of Homeland Security are abolished and the U.S. lets in 'climate refugees' in radical plan set to anger centrist Democrats​

AOC demands ICE and the Department of Homeland Security are abolished

AOC wants to dissolve ICE and DHS in massive immigration overhaul after it was revealed Joe Biden reopened facilities for housing unaccompanied minors arriving at the border.

www.dailymail.co.uk

ICE and HS do not run border security, U.S. Customs and Border Protection department is responsible for that.

Want to try again "son"?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

An unreasonable search and seizure is a search and seizure by a law enforcement officer without a search warrant and without probable cause to believe that evidence of a crime is present.

What constitutes "probable cause"? Does everyone on the country agree with what probable cause, or do we all just go with your opinion since you seem to think you are some sort of god that knows all.

How about Civil Forfeiture Laws, how do they fall under this?

Oh, and the definition you linked to relies totally on, wait for it.....rulings by the Supreme Court!