‘My life is over’: 21-year-old Charlottesville marcher whines

[Markle]

So what do you suggest society do with white supremacist roaches like this young man?

What do you suggest society do with the Black Lives Matter, Antifa, and the New Black Panthers?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Yeah. It's my attitude. That must be it.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

Obviously it is. You're as full of hate as those protesters.

Fuck your bullahit false equivalence.

Oh yeah. You know me. I hate everyone.

 

[eagle1462010]

His life isn't over...................He is being shamed..............and it might just put his ass on the right path....................

Perhaps it will make him a better person and stop marching with that scumbag group...................

A little story............a kid was caught shop lifting just up the street from where I live.............Rather than arrest him........the owner got his dad up there and they found a solution....................He was forced to wear a sign that said..........I'M A THIEF.............by his dad outside the store and to apologize to every customer that came into the store..................

I GUARANTEE YOU this kid will NEVER SHOP LIFT AGAIN.

 

[Markle]

Ignore them to death.


Watch them like hawks, punishing anyone who breaks the law, as an example to the others.


A couple years of that, and they will go the way of the Dodo bird.

What about the Antifa, BLM, the New Black Panthers, and George Soros?

 

[Markle]

I did not see any innocent bystanders.

Personal responsibility is something some people seem to believe is the responsibility of someone else.

Tragic, but at the same time, you have to also ask yourself, why would you place yourself at such a potentially explosive demonstration?

I also join others in harsh criticism of the police. They knew there was a high probability of conflict. The two groups should never have been allowed to get that close to each other.

All this is just common sense today. If I were traveling to any foreign country, I would first check the government's warning lists.

I was in high school during the race riots of the 1960's. Not nearly that bad yet but we're heading in that direction.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Yes, ruin his life, exile him form society, make sure he will never work again, cut him off from friends and family,


perfect.


If your desire is to radicalize him.

He radicalized himself.

Exactly.

I'm so sick of RWNJs blaming others for their own actions.

Funny that so many are whining about the consequences of - yep - their own actions.

Asshole Cantwell spends his life terrorizing people is now sobbing on camera that he's afraid to leave the house.

RWNJs - you wanna see violence?

Me too.

I want to see these traitors terrorized every single day, just like they do to others.


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[Luddly Neddite]

Yes, ruin his life, exile him form society, make sure he will never work again, cut him off from friends and family,


perfect.


If your desire is to radicalize him.

So what do you suggest society do with white supremacist roaches like this young man?

Ignore them to death.


Watch them like hawks, punishing anyone who breaks the law, as an example to the others.


A couple years of that, and they will go the way of the Dodo bird.

Ignoring them is what caused WWII.

1. No, it's not.

2. Very different situation. The neo nazis in this society are not the power, that real nazis were in Germany. Now, the Antifa? They have potential.

Fact is, the US is not a fascist, nazi, alt right state.

And it's true that the US fought them before in Europe and it was called WWII.


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[Sun Devil 92]

Yes, ruin his life, exile him form society, make sure he will never work again, cut him off from friends and family,


perfect.


If your desire is to radicalize him.

He radicalized himself.

Exactly.

I'm so sick of RWNJs blaming others for their own actions.

Funny that so many are whining about the consequences of - yep - their own actions.

Asshole Cantwell spends his life terrorizing people is now sobbing on camera that he's afraid to leave the house.

RWNJs - you wanna see violence?

Me too.

I want to see these traitors terrorized every single day, just like they do to others.


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Well, it might just come to that.

Pretty soon we'll start isolating them one by one.

Then there will be violence.

 

[Correll]

And the dead woman is a powerful argument that being concerned about such young men is a reasonable concern.

YOu got that, right?

But you just ignored it, because you had no answer...

Every murder victim is "a powerful argument" for surrendering society to murders because YOU are afraid of so many things? Wrong. The tiny minority of weak-minded cowards are not a force before which society must cower and abandon principles. They are vermin that can stay hidden in the dumpster or be stepped on and then wiped off the shoe of history.

Every murder victim is a powerful argument for considering the factors that create murderers, and to take steps to address those factors so as to prevent the creation of murderers.


Considering an at risk group and making sure that they are hopeless and despised, it a great plan, if you want to increase the problem.

What is your motivation here? Some sort of get evenism?


Mine is to see such movements whither and die from lack of recruitment and/or retaining people.

Criminals and dictators have always relied on people willing to cower and crawl because they are afraid. Cowardice is not a governing philosophy.

YOur talk of fear means nothing to me.....

Your avoidance of your most obvious characteristic doesn't negate it.

I'm not avoiding anything. I'm telling you that your understanding of my feelings of this subject are bat shit crazy.


Apart from our disagreement on the issue, your ability to read me (and others presumably) is terrible.

 

[Correll]

A 21 year old kid is a drama queen.

Ruin his life and check back in ten years, then you will see bitter.

Any kid who is on that path, just like the ones on the AntiFa path, are going down a road of hurt. He won't change until he has to change. If he's as doomed as you say, then maybe being in jail with the Aryan Brotherhood will give him some solace.

I've never seen any data to support the idea that a 21 year old "on that path" "won't change".

Did you get into massive political street fights and protests as a 21 year old?

One data point? Not very convincing.

Not one data point, but millions. Only the fringe nutjobs, a few thousand, participate in this shit. Even if a few of those Fields ran down were completely innocent bystanders, in the future, it will only be the nutjobs....including Jerrod Kuhn, just like he's done before.
...

Not following you.

There have been times in history, when these types of movement instead of remaining small, or whithering away, instead grew and become more violent causing terrible harm.


What leads you to conclude that it is not possible at this time?

 

[Correll]

A 21 year old kid is a drama queen.

Ruin his life and check back in ten years, then you will see bitter.

Any kid who is on that path, just like the ones on the AntiFa path, are going down a road of hurt. He won't change until he has to change. If he's as doomed as you say, then maybe being in jail with the Aryan Brotherhood will give him some solace.

I've never seen any data to support the idea that a 21 year old "on that path" "won't change".

Did you get into massive political street fights and protests as a 21 year old?

One data point? Not very convincing.

would you worry about "data points" if it were a young black man picked up for a joint?

he's 21.... if he thought that it was "cool" to dabble in hate, I'd say that's his problem.

he can change his life... let him go do something decent for society instead of being a pathetic loser blaming blacks and jews for the epic fail that is his life.

I regularly discuss my desire for America to improve the economic and social situation of America, including BLACK AMERICA to encourage better outcomes for, for example, " some young black man picked up for a joint".

I often discuss how I believe that Trump's trade and immigration policies are the best hope for this.


That you have missed this is due to your poor communication skills, and to be fair to you, the tactic of your fellow lefties of derailing every thread into race baiting/personal shit, and burying any real discussion.

 

[Correll]

If he was being watched why was he allowed to attack innocent people ?

1. You are confusing the young man in the OP with the driver. The man in question attacked no one.

2. You also seem confused about the way watching works. Watching someone doesn't stop them from doing anything, unless there are ample warning signs. Driving a car to a rally is hardly a warning sign.

These groups are well known to the authorities. Where is the problem ?

Because it is hard to tell intent from watching someone from a distance.

Even if you have someone in the room, they might still not be included in any plot.

AND there might not BE a plot. There might be ONE guy deciding to do something, never speaking out loud about it, not doing anything really noteworthy,


like driving a car to a rally. Is some FBI guy going to get an arrest warrant based on that?

What do you think is the intent "from a distance" of these young men? Maybe some kindness and forgiveness will see them turn from their dark path?

Please don't spin my position.

NOT ruining someone's life, is not "kindness".

My point about the limits of "Watching" was valid. Would you like to actually address it?


The line between slogans and actual incitement or intent to commit violence is recurring issue. YOu should me any information that suggests that young man was/is doing inciting or planning to commit violence,


and the answer then is CERTAINLY NOT to ruin his life while letting him walk around free, but he needs to be arrested, immediately.

 

[Correll]

Ignore them to death.


Watch them like hawks, punishing anyone who breaks the law, as an example to the others.


A couple years of that, and they will go the way of the Dodo bird.

What about the Antifa, BLM, the New Black Panthers, and George Soros?

Very different situation. As you can see on this board. The mainstream lefty supports and encourages and works with the Left's radical fringe.


The MOST troubling aspect of all this to me, is that there so often is some liberals administrator or mayor, in the mix, ORDERING THE POLICE to stand down, so that the lefty brownshirts can go in and attack those on the right.

 

[Unkotare]

Every murder victim is "a powerful argument" for surrendering society to murders because YOU are afraid of so many things? Wrong. The tiny minority of weak-minded cowards are not a force before which society must cower and abandon principles. They are vermin that can stay hidden in the dumpster or be stepped on and then wiped off the shoe of history.

Every murder victim is a powerful argument for considering the factors that create murderers, and to take steps to address those factors so as to prevent the creation of murderers.


Considering an at risk group and making sure that they are hopeless and despised, it a great plan, if you want to increase the problem.

What is your motivation here? Some sort of get evenism?


Mine is to see such movements whither and die from lack of recruitment and/or retaining people.

Criminals and dictators have always relied on people willing to cower and crawl because they are afraid. Cowardice is not a governing philosophy.

YOur talk of fear means nothing to me.....

Your avoidance of your most obvious characteristic doesn't negate it.

I'm not avoiding anything. I'm telling you that your understanding of my feelings of this subject are bat shit crazy.


Apart from our disagreement on the issue, your ability to read me (and others presumably) is terrible.

Your history of posting here strongly suggests that your position on every subject is driven primarily by personal fear.

You have admitted to being afraid of: hard work, competition, children who live in urban areas, angering or upsetting low-life shitbag racists, etc.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Good, stupid kid should have known better than to march with Nazis.

‘My life is over’: 21-year-old Charlottesville marcher whines over ‘outing’ by anti-fascist group

A 21-year-old Honeoye Falls, NY man was outed as a white supremacist after photos of him marching in Charlottesville, VA circulated online.



According to the Livingston County News, Jerrod Kuhn was filmed on Friday and Saturday last week by a BBC documentary crew as he carried a torch on the University of Virginia campus and chanted Nazi slogans and marched with the KKK and neo-Nazis the following day.
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Why would you go on a march, if you don't want people to know?

 

[Divine Wind]

Any kid who is on that path, just like the ones on the AntiFa path, are going down a road of hurt. He won't change until he has to change. If he's as doomed as you say, then maybe being in jail with the Aryan Brotherhood will give him some solace.

I've never seen any data to support the idea that a 21 year old "on that path" "won't change".

Did you get into massive political street fights and protests as a 21 year old?

One data point? Not very convincing.

Not one data point, but millions. Only the fringe nutjobs, a few thousand, participate in this shit. Even if a few of those Fields ran down were completely innocent bystanders, in the future, it will only be the nutjobs....including Jerrod Kuhn, just like he's done before.
...

Not following you.

There have been times in history, when these types of movement instead of remaining small, or whithering away, instead grew and become more violent causing terrible harm.


What leads you to conclude that it is not possible at this time?

Agreed, but notice that those events took specific requirements to come to fruition. Look at Germany after WWI; the Treaty of Versailles not only put the entire fault of the war on Germany, but made them pay for it. The Treaty broke the economy of Germany. It was such overkill that the US refused to sign it.

Germany, destitute from the Treaty, missing an entire generation of young men and much of the country shattered was in severe pain. Out of chaos comes order; usually not the good kind either. The US was unique in having a revolution which didn't turn into a dictatorship. France wasn't so lucky and Germany's conditions were ripe for a dictator.

The US today doesn't have those conditions. Most people are happy at home but uncertain about the future, especially for their children. They have jobs (that don't pay well, but pay), they have homes (not the greatest, but secure) and they have both food and entertainment. You won't see a fucking Nazi or Socialist Party takeover of the US until current conditions in the US are more like Germany in the early 1920s.

 

[Divine Wind]

Ignore them to death.


Watch them like hawks, punishing anyone who breaks the law, as an example to the others.


A couple years of that, and they will go the way of the Dodo bird.

What about the Antifa, BLM, the New Black Panthers, and George Soros?

Very different situation. As you can see on this board. The mainstream lefty supports and encourages and works with the Left's radical fringe.


The MOST troubling aspect of all this to me, is that there so often is some liberals administrator or mayor, in the mix, ORDERING THE POLICE to stand down, so that the lefty brownshirts can go in and attack those on the right.

Sorry, but while the police were ordered to hold off, I doubt it was to cause a street battle as you imply.

The multiple investigations into this, because there was a death (and, IMO, more to come) will reveal the truth.

 

[Divine Wind]

If he was being watched why was he allowed to attack innocent people ?

1. You are confusing the young man in the OP with the driver. The man in question attacked no one.

2. You also seem confused about the way watching works. Watching someone doesn't stop them from doing anything, unless there are ample warning signs. Driving a car to a rally is hardly a warning sign.

These groups are well known to the authorities. Where is the problem ?

Because it is hard to tell intent from watching someone from a distance.

Even if you have someone in the room, they might still not be included in any plot.

AND there might not BE a plot. There might be ONE guy deciding to do something, never speaking out loud about it, not doing anything really noteworthy,


like driving a car to a rally. Is some FBI guy going to get an arrest warrant based on that?

What do you think is the intent "from a distance" of these young men? Maybe some kindness and forgiveness will see them turn from their dark path?

Please don't spin my position.

NOT ruining someone's life, is not "kindness".

My point about the limits of "Watching" was valid. Would you like to actually address it?


The line between slogans and actual incitement or intent to commit violence is recurring issue. YOu should me any information that suggests that young man was/is doing inciting or planning to commit violence,


and the answer then is CERTAINLY NOT to ruin his life while letting him walk around free, but he needs to be arrested, immediately.

Spin? No. Truth? Yes. You say one thing if the person is a white supremacist male and another if he is a Muslim male. Is that what you are admitting?

 

[Divine Wind]

I did not see any innocent bystanders.

Personal responsibility is something some people seem to believe is the responsibility of someone else.

Tragic, but at the same time, you have to also ask yourself, why would you place yourself at such a potentially explosive demonstration?

I also join others in harsh criticism of the police. They knew there was a high probability of conflict. The two groups should never have been allowed to get that close to each other.

All this is just common sense today. If I were traveling to any foreign country, I would first check the government's warning lists.

I was in high school during the race riots of the 1960's. Not nearly that bad yet but we're heading in that direction.

The ones protesting aren't "innocent bystanders", but this is in the middle of the city. People have jobs or just want to see what's happening. They aren't armed, they aren't carrying signs and they aren't screaming. They're just exercising their right to move freely around the city.

While Heyer was there as a protester, that doesn't justify murdering her. As for the other 19 people run over, I don't know how many were bystanders, if any were kids accompanying their protester parents or anything else about them. Do you? I'd really like to know.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“‘My life is over’: 21-year-old Charlottesville marcher whines over ‘outing’ by anti-fascist group”

He has only himself to blame.

If a conservative is going to be a purveyor of fear, ignorance, hate, bigotry, and racism, he needs to understand that persons of good faith and good conscience are going to oppose him and that there are consequences for being on the wrong side of an issue, consequences for being a hateful bigot and racist.