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Nader was paid $10,000,000 by the Bush campaign to run for President. Maybe he's angling for another payment.
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I know who Ralph Nader is, but I am not so sure I understand why Paul Ryan alone should have the obligation to debate him.
I think 90% of US voters would have a much different perspective on the ways Republicans AND Democrats socialize the cost while privatizing the profits of this economy if Obama and Ryan answered questions from radicals on the left like Nader and Chomsky.I think Obama should debate Nader.
George, should Obama come out and debate Ralph on the right way to socialize the economy?
I think 90% of US voters would have a much different perspective on the ways Republicans AND Democrats socialize the cost while privatizing the profits of this economy if Obama and Ryan answered questions from radicals on the left like Nader and Chomsky.
"radical (comparative more radical, superlative most radical)
Favouring fundamental change, or change at the root cause of a matter.
His beliefs are radical."
Can you name any fundamentalists on the right seeking change at the root of the US economy?
Hayek, Freidman, Rothbard, Rand, and Laffer all worked studiously to justify the base survival aspect of human psychology by creating economic considerations.
Chomsky was more involved in evolutionary ideas--assuming, of course, that modern humans are even capable of evolving more socially before the crushing horror of institutionalized greed and corruption (capitalism) destroys the fabric of civilization.
Hayek, Freidman, Rothbard, Rand, and Laffer all worked studiously to justify the base survival aspect of human psychology by creating economic considerations.
Chomsky was more involved in evolutionary ideas--assuming, of course, that modern humans are even capable of evolving more socially before the crushing horror of institutionalized greed and corruption (capitalism) destroys the fabric of civilization.
"Who's Afraid of Noam Chomsky"?I think 90% of US voters would have a much different perspective on the ways Republicans AND Democrats socialize the cost while privatizing the profits of this economy if Obama and Ryan answered questions from radicals on the left like Nader and Chomsky.
Perhaps. But Chomsky is a dishonest coward. Rothbard tried to get the bastard to debate and he hid like a little girl.
I have a modicum more respect for Nadar.
"radical (comparative more radical, superlative most radical)
Favouring fundamental change, or change at the root cause of a matter.
His beliefs are radical."
Can you name any fundamentalists on the right seeking change at the root of the US economy?
The problem is, that debating fringe elements does nothing positive for any of the candidates.
Nader and Chomsky fail to spread their message because the nonsense they promote doesn't sit well with anyone other than a college freshman exposed only to leftist professors.
For those on the right, Hayek, Freidman, Rothbard, Rand, and Laffer were all successful in shaping economic policy because their ideas were rational and followed sound economic theory.
The rehashed Marxism of Chomsky or the bastardized Keynesian ideas of Krugman fail to motivate anyone with a modicum of knowledge or experience because they are know failures.
Is that more or less than Jeb Bush paid ChoicePoint in 2000?Nader was paid $10,000,000 by the Bush campaign to run for President. Maybe he's angling for another payment.
Ralph's difference lies in the questions he's asking about Ryan's budget, like this one:Lmao you think Nader is differentBiden and Ryan are NOT debating one another.heres a thought:
How about Ryan be required to debate his opponent.
Oh wait he IS going to debate Biden.
If the rest of those people want to debate Ryan, they should run against him or stfu.
I hate Paul Ryan but Nader isnt running for office and therefore is in no position to demand a debate.
Paul Ryan is going to clean Bidens clock in a debate, which isa shame, because Ryan is a piece of garbage hypocrite whos lived off the taxpayers since before he graduated high school. He is the epitome of entitlement programs breeding success and then wants to deny others access to the very programs that put him where he is today. What a fuckhead Paul Ryan is.
And Nader still isnt in a position to demand anything from him.
They're taking part in a scripted panel discussion where neither is required to prove anything.
That's how each wing of the Wall Street Party "debates".
They collaborate on behalf of the richest 1% of voters.
Ralph wants Ryan to defend his budget on national television before the election.
Ryan would probably prefer to avoid that indignity.
"Who's Afraid of Noam Chomsky"?
Do you have any links to that debate with Rothbard?
Chomsky hasn't displayed any fear of putting his life on the line for human rights from Selma to Area C.
What's the worst Murray could do, pout and cry over the outcome?
"The root cause of hostility to Chomsky does not lie in any labels such as left and right, and apologists for government everywhere consistently accuse the opponents of the states exercise of the territorial monopoly of violence of being unpatriotic.
"It comes down to his outstanding ability and undoubted willingness, in the interest of speaking truth to power in the field of intervention in other countries and the domination of subject peoples, to dissect the psychological processes which underlie the propaganda and the machinations of the apologists of state power whatever political or ethnic quadrant they hail from."
Who's Afraid of Noam Chomsky?, by Richard Wall
With the exceptions of Hayak and Rothbard, those you mentioned on the right like Freidman, Rand, and Laffer were/are apologists of state/corporate power.
When all else fails...read the link.Biden and Ryan are NOT debating one another.heres a thought:
How about Ryan be required to debate his opponent.
Oh wait he IS going to debate Biden.
If the rest of those people want to debate Ryan, they should run against him or stfu.
I hate Paul Ryan but Nader isnt running for office and therefore is in no position to demand a debate.
Paul Ryan is going to clean Bidens clock in a debate, which isa shame, because Ryan is a piece of garbage hypocrite whos lived off the taxpayers since before he graduated high school. He is the epitome of entitlement programs breeding success and then wants to deny others access to the very programs that put him where he is today. What a fuckhead Paul Ryan is.
And Nader still isnt in a position to demand anything from him.
They're taking part in a scripted panel discussion where neither is required to prove anything.
That's how each wing of the Wall Street Party "debates".
They collaborate on behalf of the richest 1% of voters.
Ralph wants Ryan to defend his budget on national television before the election.
Ryan would probably prefer to avoid that indignity.
If Ralph wants to debate Ryan, the Ralph should run for office or as I so eloquently put it before, stfu.
Ralph Nader doesnt get to interfere with our election process just because he has yet another stray grey hair up his ass.
Did Nader issue the challenge BEFORE or AFTER Ryan was named the VP candidate?
After? Hmmm....what does that tell you?
It's pretty obvious debating Nader would dismantle whatever reputation the budget proposal garnered for Ryan amongst staunch fiscal Conservatives.
Ralph would destroy him.