NASA's top global warming nut admits warming has stopped for 10 years...

[editec]

For those of you who imagine that ONLY THE SUN changes the world's atmosphere?

READ A BOOK.

Life on earth has changed the world's atmosphere repeatedly.

The between O2 and CO2 balance we have today is in large part maintained by the interaction between animals and plants.

Seriously...if you don't already know that?

You are wholly unqualified to weigh in on climate change debates.

 

[Dubya]

I'm very glad to see this - because most genuine conservatives really do understand science, and it's time for some of the extremists on this board to realise the Tea Party isn't necessarily the right source of information on climate - scientists are.

Ah, another left-winger who feels qualified to pontificate on who is a "true conservative."

In left-wing parlance, so-called "climate scientists" are whoever agrees with the global warming con. They are in fact all stooges on the government payroll. They are bought and paid for.

A person's political ideology shouldn't influence them so much that they lose grip with reality. There is nothing in the ideology of being conservative that dictates it should oppose science or be anti-environmental. That position is party politics of the Republican Party, which is only conservative, because it can presently benefit by being so. The anti-global warming movement is a recent manifestation of energy corporations funding conservative think tanks to promote their propaganda. The conservatives didn't oppose global warming science when the concern originally occurred. You aren't going to find Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher opposing global warming scence, in fact the conservative Margaret Thatcher was outspoken about global warming and considered it the greatest danger that mankind has ever faced. Her background before politics was as a research chemist.

 

[zeke]

Gloabla Warming --- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

omg - libs will buy anything!!!

Send in your money!! The oceans are rising!!

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!!

Ok, Chicken Littles... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Not a lib Moe.
Been voting Republican for 40 years.
Just like 9990 colleges and universities teach evolution as scientific fact 90% of all the oceanographic and atmospheric scientists on the globe state from over a hundred years iof scientific research that global warming is here and man causes some of it.
Facts sure are a bitch to an ideologue.

Finally, a right winger on here that surprised me. Good job.

But I got to ask; how does it feel to be associated in all things except global warming, with a bunch of nit wit half brains like bripatty. Doesn't it make you question some of your other assertions if they agree with the half brains?

Very seldom is someone who is so wrong on one important subject, all of a sudden correct on other important subjects.

When critical thinking skills break down in one area, they are broke down every where.

 

[Gadawg73]

Gloabla Warming --- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

omg - libs will buy anything!!!

Send in your money!! The oceans are rising!!

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!!

Ok, Chicken Littles... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Not a lib Moe.
Been voting Republican for 40 years.
Just like 9990 colleges and universities teach evolution as scientific fact 90% of all the oceanographic and atmospheric scientists on the globe state from over a hundred years iof scientific research that global warming is here and man causes some of it.
Facts sure are a bitch to an ideologue.

I'm very glad to see this - because most genuine conservatives really do understand science, and it's time for some of the extremists on this board to realise the Tea Party isn't necessarily the right source of information on climate - scientists are.

Tea Party when they stick to tax issues which they are founded on are spot on it.
When they started going off topic on climate change, gay marriage, whatever they left their core beliefs.
Yes, there are climate change companies that have corrupted the data for monetary gain.
Yes, there are anti climate change advocates that deny it for monetary gain.
And yes there are parties on both sides that are swayed by fake data.
But yes it is going on and even the military and other government agencies believe the data and implement strategies and plans to adjust to it.
Time we did the same. Not dive head first but plan and keep the research going.
Both sides have egg on their face in this.

 

[Gadawg73]

Gloabla Warming --- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

omg - libs will buy anything!!!

Send in your money!! The oceans are rising!!

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!!

Ok, Chicken Littles... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Not a lib Moe.
Been voting Republican for 40 years.
Just like 9990 colleges and universities teach evolution as scientific fact 90% of all the oceanographic and atmospheric scientists on the globe state from over a hundred years iof scientific research that global warming is here and man causes some of it.
Facts sure are a bitch to an ideologue.

Finally, a right winger on here that surprised me. Good job.

But I got to ask; how does it feel to be associated in all things except global warming, with a bunch of nit wit half brains like bripatty. Doesn't it make you question some of your other assertions if they agree with the half brains?

Very seldom is someone who is so wrong on one important subject, all of a sudden correct on other important subjects.

When critical thinking skills break down in one area, they are broke down every where.

Not a right winger.
Fiscal conservative to the core, hard core but not a right winger.

I am never wrong on any subject!

 

[bripat9643]

Not a right winger.
Fiscal conservative to the core, hard core but not a right winger.

I am never wrong on any subject!

"fiscal conservative" is a liberal euphemism meaning "tax and spend liberal," so you are not a conservative.

 

[bripat9643]

Tea Party when they stick to tax issues which they are founded on are spot on it.
When they started going off topic on climate change, gay marriage, whatever they left their core beliefs.
Yes, there are climate change companies that have corrupted the data for monetary gain.
Yes, there are anti climate change advocates that deny it for monetary gain.
And yes there are parties on both sides that are swayed by fake data.
But yes it is going on and even the military and other government agencies believe the data and implement strategies and plans to adjust to it.
Time we did the same. Not dive head first but plan and keep the research going.
Both sides have egg on their face in this.

The TEA Party has no position on global warming or gay marriage, so your post is a pile of horseshit, as usual.

The so-called "climate scientists" are the ones who mold their opinions for monetary gain, not the skeptics. The military pays lip service to global warming only to placate politicians like Obama who have control over their funding. Anyone who believes such sources are credible simply unmasks himself as incredibly gullible.

 

[bripat9643]

Finally, a right winger on here that surprised me. Good job.

But I got to ask; how does it feel to be associated in all things except global warming, with a bunch of nit wit half brains like bripatty. Doesn't it make you question some of your other assertions if they agree with the half brains?

Very seldom is someone who is so wrong on one important subject, all of a sudden correct on other important subjects.

When critical thinking skills break down in one area, they are broke down every where.

You're certainly proof of that, zeke. Your brain is a vast reservoir of every idiotic idea ever conceived.

 

[bripat9643]

They are in fact all stooges on the government payroll.

You have to laugh, don't you?

Fools laugh at the facts.

 

[whitehall]

Why is the Aeronautics and Space Administration dabbling in an international extortion scheme? NASA probably uses more energy supplying that hunk of junk in space than all the SUV's in the Country in addition to the president's golf outings.

 

[bripat9643]

Gloabla Warming --- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

omg - libs will buy anything!!!

Send in your money!! The oceans are rising!!

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!!

Ok, Chicken Littles... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Not a lib Moe.
Been voting Republican for 40 years.
Just like 9990 colleges and universities teach evolution as scientific fact 90% of all the oceanographic and atmospheric scientists on the globe state from over a hundred years iof scientific research that global warming is here and man causes some of it.
Facts sure are a bitch to an ideologue.

You're probably referring to the "97% consensus" claim. It's a myth. Close examination of the source of the claimed 97% consensus reveals that it comes from a non-peer reviewed article describing an online poll in which a total of only 79 climate scientists chose to participate. Of the 79 self-selected climate scientists, 75 agreed with the notion of AGW. Thus, we find climate scientists once again using dubious statistical techniques to deceive the public that there is a 97% scientific consensus on man-made global warming; fortunately they clearly aren’t buying it.

Let’s not lose sight of what the Doran poll asked:

1. When compared with pre-1800s levels do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?

2. Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?

Of course, the answer to #1 is “risen”, if you consider “pre-1800″ to be around 1800 or a couple of hundred years of so before, because we were in the little age age, and there’s little doubt we have warmed since that time.

The answer to number #2 depends largely on the definition of significant. If man caused 10% of the rise in temperature since 1800, that would be 0.06 degrees. That would be "significant," but who would get excited about it?

And of course, warmers seem to treat a risen/yes reply to this poll as affirmation of catastrophic AGW projections, which may not be intended.

 

[Gadawg73]

Gloabla Warming --- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

omg - libs will buy anything!!!

Send in your money!! The oceans are rising!!

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!!

Ok, Chicken Littles... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Not a lib Moe.
Been voting Republican for 40 years.
Just like 9990 colleges and universities teach evolution as scientific fact 90% of all the oceanographic and atmospheric scientists on the globe state from over a hundred years iof scientific research that global warming is here and man causes some of it.
Facts sure are a bitch to an ideologue.

You're probably referring to the "97% consensus" claim. It's a myth. Close examination of the source of the claimed 97% consensus reveals that it comes from a non-peer reviewed article describing an online poll in which a total of only 79 climate scientists chose to participate. Of the 79 self-selected climate scientists, 75 agreed with the notion of AGW. Thus, we find climate scientists once again using dubious statistical techniques to deceive the public that there is a 97% scientific consensus on man-made global warming; fortunately they clearly aren’t buying it.

Let’s not lose sight of what the Doran poll asked:

1. When compared with pre-1800s levels do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?

2. Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?

Of course, the answer to #1 is “risen”, if you consider “pre-1800″ to be around 1800 or a couple of hundred years of so before, because we were in the little age age, and there’s little doubt we have warmed since that time.

The answer to number #2 depends largely on the definition of significant. If man caused 10% of the rise in temperature since 1800, that would be 0.06 degrees. That would be "significant," but who would get excited about it?

And of course, warmers seem to treat a risen/yes reply to this poll as affirmation of catastrophic AGW projections, which may not be intended.

No, that is not all the Doran poll asked.
Geologists know little to nothing about climate and surprisingly meteorologists only study short term phenomenon. Their 47% and 64% agreement that humans play a significant role in climate change dropped the % far down.
Take those 2 groups out of the Doran poll, which had more than those 2 questions-they had 9, and you had 97% of scientists in that poll which are climatologists that agree man plays a role in global warming.

 

[bripat9643]

Not a lib Moe.
Been voting Republican for 40 years.
Just like 9990 colleges and universities teach evolution as scientific fact 90% of all the oceanographic and atmospheric scientists on the globe state from over a hundred years iof scientific research that global warming is here and man causes some of it.
Facts sure are a bitch to an ideologue.

You're probably referring to the "97% consensus" claim. It's a myth. Close examination of the source of the claimed 97% consensus reveals that it comes from a non-peer reviewed article describing an online poll in which a total of only 79 climate scientists chose to participate. Of the 79 self-selected climate scientists, 75 agreed with the notion of AGW. Thus, we find climate scientists once again using dubious statistical techniques to deceive the public that there is a 97% scientific consensus on man-made global warming; fortunately they clearly aren’t buying it.

Let’s not lose sight of what the Doran poll asked:

1. When compared with pre-1800s levels do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?

2. Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?

Of course, the answer to #1 is “risen”, if you consider “pre-1800″ to be around 1800 or a couple of hundred years of so before, because we were in the little age age, and there’s little doubt we have warmed since that time.

The answer to number #2 depends largely on the definition of significant. If man caused 10% of the rise in temperature since 1800, that would be 0.06 degrees. That would be "significant," but who would get excited about it?

And of course, warmers seem to treat a risen/yes reply to this poll as affirmation of catastrophic AGW projections, which may not be intended.

No, that is not all the Doran poll asked.
Geologists know little to nothing about climate and surprisingly meteorologists only study short term phenomenon. Their 47% and 64% agreement that humans play a significant role in climate change dropped the % far down.
Take those 2 groups out of the Doran poll, which had more than those 2 questions-they had 9, and you had 97% of scientists in that poll which are climatologists that agree man plays a role in global warming.

Your post is nonsensical. What part of "97% of climate scientists" didn't you understand? Please refer to the flaws in the poll listed above. Only 79 "climate scientists" chose to participate in the poll. They were described as "climatologists who are active in research," meaning they are getting money from the government to produce propaganda supporting the global warming hoax.

 

[BlindBoo]

LOL, you make me laugh. you compare CO2 in the atmosphere to a drop of poison on a person, but you cannot prove that either CO2 is an "earth poison" or that its % has been increased by man.

BTW, you do know that plant life actually likes CO2 don't you?

Not claiming it's a poison, that's just a strawman argument. If it hasn't been increased by man, to what do you attribute the rise since the advent of the Industrial Revolution? Everyone knows that plants like CO2, that's another irrelevancy that leads to the deniers' alternate strawman argument that ASW proponents want to elininate all CO2.

CO2 makes up .039% of the atmosphere today. it made up the same % in 1900.

your argument fails.

Beck's historical CO2 measurements

 

[Saigon]

You're probably referring to the "97% consensus" claim. It's a myth. Close examination of the source of the claimed 97% consensus reveals that it comes from a non-peer reviewed article describing an online poll in which a total of only 79 climate scientists chose to participate. Of the 79 self-selected climate scientists, 75 agreed with the notion of AGW. Thus, we find climate scientists once again using dubious statistical techniques to deceive the public that there is a 97% scientific consensus on man-made global warming; fortunately they clearly aren’t buying it.
.

Really?

So it isn't true that of the 50 largest scientific organisations on earth - all 50 back climate change science?

I think we both know that it is true.

 

[Dubya]

You're probably referring to the "97% consensus" claim. It's a myth. Close examination of the source of the claimed 97% consensus reveals that it comes from a non-peer reviewed article describing an online poll in which a total of only 79 climate scientists chose to participate. Of the 79 self-selected climate scientists, 75 agreed with the notion of AGW. Thus, we find climate scientists once again using dubious statistical techniques to deceive the public that there is a 97% scientific consensus on man-made global warming; fortunately they clearly aren’t buying it.

Let’s not lose sight of what the Doran poll asked:

1. When compared with pre-1800s levels do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?

2. Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?

Of course, the answer to #1 is “risen”, if you consider “pre-1800″ to be around 1800 or a couple of hundred years of so before, because we were in the little age age, and there’s little doubt we have warmed since that time.

The answer to number #2 depends largely on the definition of significant. If man caused 10% of the rise in temperature since 1800, that would be 0.06 degrees. That would be "significant," but who would get excited about it?

And of course, warmers seem to treat a risen/yes reply to this poll as affirmation of catastrophic AGW projections, which may not be intended.

No, that is not all the Doran poll asked.
Geologists know little to nothing about climate and surprisingly meteorologists only study short term phenomenon. Their 47% and 64% agreement that humans play a significant role in climate change dropped the % far down.
Take those 2 groups out of the Doran poll, which had more than those 2 questions-they had 9, and you had 97% of scientists in that poll which are climatologists that agree man plays a role in global warming.

Your post is nonsensical. What part of "97% of climate scientists" didn't you understand? Please refer to the flaws in the poll listed above. Only 79 "climate scientists" chose to participate in the poll. They were described as "climatologists who are active in research," meaning they are getting money from the government to produce propaganda supporting the global warming hoax.

You keep claiming there is this government funded research to lie about global warming, but you haven't posted any evidence. Active in research is more likely to be university research and if scientists were random there would be scientists working for industry than any other organization.

Scientists don't need propaganda to show all the obvious evidence of global warming and it comes from sources funded for other reasons than to prove global warming.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Is the earth experiencing a global warming trend?

Cold weather in Saudi Arabia killed 12


Riyadh: At least 12 people, according to unofficial estimates, died as a result of a cold wave over the past two weeks, local reports said.

The kingdom was hit by the worst cold in four decades, and the deaths were reported in the northern cities of Arar, Rafha, Qirayat Qasim and Hail, local press reports said.

Cold weather in Saudi Arabia killed 12

New freezing weather hits Saudi Arabia

RIYADH, February 20 (RIA Novosti) - Northern regions of Saudi Arabia have been hit by the second cold spell this winter, the Al-Watan daily said on Wednesday.

This winter is said to be the coldest in Saudi Arabia in 30 years.
Temperatures in northern and northwestern parts of the country plunged to -5 degrees Centigrade (23 Fahrenheit) with bitterly cold winds raging at speeds of 60 km/ph (37 m/ph). Local residents are staying indoors whenever possible amid fears of hypothermia.

Saudi authorities and charity organizations are delivering heaters, fuel, blankets, warm clothes and food to people affected by the cold snap. Weather forecasters say the freeze is set to continue until Friday.

In mid-January, unusually cold weather smashed decades-old records in Saudi Arabia where temperatures reached a record low of -6 degree Centigrade (21.2 degree Fahrenheit), freezing water pipes and closing schools and other facilities.

New freezing weather hits Saudi Arabia | World | RIA Novosti

Scientist who said climate change sceptics had been proved wrong accused of hiding truth by colleague


A leading member of Prof Muller’s team has accused him of trying to mislead the public by hiding the fact that BEST’s research shows global warming has stopped.

Prof Judith Curry, who chairs the Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at America’s prestigious Georgia Institute of Technology, said that Prof Muller’s claim that he has proven global warming sceptics wrong was also a ‘huge mistake’, with no scientific basis.

Prof Curry is a distinguished climate researcher with more than 30 years experience and the second named co-author of the BEST project’s four research papers.

Like the scientists exposed then by leaked emails from East Anglia University’s Climatic Research Unit, her colleagues from the BEST project seem to be trying to ‘hide the decline’ in rates of global warming. In fact, Prof Curry said, the project’s research data show there has been no increase in world temperatures since the end of the Nineties.

‘There is no scientific basis for saying that warming hasn’t stopped,’ she said. ‘To say that there is detracts from the credibility of the data, which is very unfortunate.’


Scientists who said climate change sceptics had been proved wrong accused of hiding truth by colleague | Mail Online

NCDC data shows that the contiguous USA has not warmed in the past decade, summers are cooler, winters are getting colder


Climatologist Dr. Pat Michaels in an essay at The GWPF wrote:

“The last ten years of the BEST data indeed show no statistically significant warming trend, no matter how you slice and dice them”. He adds: “Both records are in reasonable agreement about the length of time without a significant warming trend. In the CRU record it is 15.0 years. In the University of Alabama MSU it is 13.9, and in the Remote Sensing Systems version of the MSU it is 15.6 years. “

So according the the National Climatic Data Center, it seems clear that for at least the last 10 years, there has been a cooling trend in the Annual mean temperature of the contiguous United States.

Prof Ross McKittrick, a climate statistics expert from Guelph University in Ontario, added: ‘You don’t look for statistically significant evidence of a standstill.
‘You look for statistically significant evidence of change.’


The BEST project, which has been lavishly funded, brings together experts from different fields from top American universities.


It was set up 18 months ago in an effort to devise a new and more accurate way of computing changes in world temperatures by using readings from some 39,000 weather stations on land, instead of adding sea temperatures as well.
Some scientists, Prof Muller included, believe that this should provide a more accurate indication of how the world is responding to carbon dioxide.

The oceans, they argue, warm more slowly and this is why earlier global measurements which also cover the sea – such as those from the Climatic Research Unit at East Anglia University – have found no evidence of warming since the Nineties.

The usual way a high-profile project such as BEST would publish its results would be in a scientific journal, following a rigorous ‘peer review’ by other experts in the field. The more eminent journals that publish climate research, such as Nature And Science, insist there must be no leaks to the media until this review is complete and if such leaks occur, they will automatically reject the research.

 

[Saigon]

Is the earth experiencing a global warming trend?

Yes it is - definitely and without question.

This doesn't mean their won't be cold snaps in future.

 

[Gadawg73]

You're probably referring to the "97% consensus" claim. It's a myth. Close examination of the source of the claimed 97% consensus reveals that it comes from a non-peer reviewed article describing an online poll in which a total of only 79 climate scientists chose to participate. Of the 79 self-selected climate scientists, 75 agreed with the notion of AGW. Thus, we find climate scientists once again using dubious statistical techniques to deceive the public that there is a 97% scientific consensus on man-made global warming; fortunately they clearly aren’t buying it.

Let’s not lose sight of what the Doran poll asked:

1. When compared with pre-1800s levels do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?

2. Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?

Of course, the answer to #1 is “risen”, if you consider “pre-1800″ to be around 1800 or a couple of hundred years of so before, because we were in the little age age, and there’s little doubt we have warmed since that time.

The answer to number #2 depends largely on the definition of significant. If man caused 10% of the rise in temperature since 1800, that would be 0.06 degrees. That would be "significant," but who would get excited about it?

And of course, warmers seem to treat a risen/yes reply to this poll as affirmation of catastrophic AGW projections, which may not be intended.

No, that is not all the Doran poll asked.
Geologists know little to nothing about climate and surprisingly meteorologists only study short term phenomenon. Their 47% and 64% agreement that humans play a significant role in climate change dropped the % far down.
Take those 2 groups out of the Doran poll, which had more than those 2 questions-they had 9, and you had 97% of scientists in that poll which are climatologists that agree man plays a role in global warming.

Your post is nonsensical. What part of "97% of climate scientists" didn't you understand? Please refer to the flaws in the poll listed above. Only 79 "climate scientists" chose to participate in the poll. They were described as "climatologists who are active in research," meaning they are getting money from the government to produce propaganda supporting the global warming hoax.

Total BS.
So every scientist that receives government research dollars for the DOD uses propaganda that supports some agenda they have.
So the Navy climatologists that receive funding from the government are using propaganda only.
And the NOAA are all using propaganda.
Sure, right.
You do know that a large %, over 75% of those climatologists, do government work for the military, NASA, NOAA and other entities that rely on correct climate research because people live and die from the results of their studies?
Sure, some private studies do indicate bias in their results.
The same type of bias from oil and gas, coal producers and others similar to the scientific studies in the 60s and 70s that concluded smoking was not bad for you and in many cases was good for you.
The claim that most all or a large % of climate research is biased and phony is baloney.
You are the one buying the propaganda, not those of us that weigh both sides of the argument.

 

[Gadawg73]

There is NO argument now from both sides of the argument that the earth is warming.
They used to argue that and gave that nonsense up.
Now their argument is man has played NO part in it.
And many have come off of that and claim, well man does play a part in it but there is no evidence how much.
Well wait a minute. Used to be the argument was that anyone that believed the earth was warming was doing so for the $$$ and was a liberal.
They play both sides of the fence and their beliefs change like the wind.