Nate Silver: Stop Comparing Donald Trump And Bernie Sanders

[S.J.]

Hmm, funny no one saw this on any credible news outlet.

The entire nation saw T-Rump telling his goons to remove the reporter from Univision from his press conference.

Trump ejects Univision anchor from press conference - CNNPolitics.com

Univision anchor ejected from Trump news conference

He was also allowed back in to ask his question. You conveniently left that out.

Only because the rest of the press corp questioned his un-American behavior and his failure to address legitimate questions.

What's un-American about asking someone to wait until called upon to ask their question instead of shouting down the person who WAS called upon?

Telling his goons to remove his from the room was un-American.

It's called "security". When the rude SOB kept interrupting everyone he was escorted out and let back in later. BTW, I don't recall you criticizing Hillary for banning the press at her rallies. Isn't that "un-American"?

 

[S.J.]

He inherited $10 billion?

He doesn't have 10 billion.

And he inherited a fully functioning real estate company.

He hasn't done squat since that.

He's one of the most successful businessmen in the world. You denying it doesn't diminish his success.

He also is one of the most corrupt but that doesn't stop sycophants like you from admiring his unethical business practices.

Unethical? As in "The Clinton Foundation"? Of course, you consider any politician who doesn't steal their money from the taxpayers or take money from foreign governments corrupt.

The OP topic does not include the Clinton Foundation so stop trying to derail the thread and deal with T-Rump's unethical business practices instead.

Translation: Stop addressing my hypocrisy.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Trump isn't a "businessman" he's a carnival barker and a confidence man.

He's used daddy's name to screw people out of their cash.

Your opinion, with nothing to back it up.

Eyeah...


What Trump didn’t say about his four big business bankruptcies

Go back and read your link and show me where he screwed anybody other than rich bankers (the ones you liberals hate so much) out of anything. It's not like he lost a trillion dollars of stimulus money and stuck the taxpayers with the bill the way Obama did.

Defrauding banks is illegal. But no big surprise that you support someone who had to file bankruptcy 4 times because he couldn't operate a legitimate business successfully.

Where was the indictment? Maybe because he didn't defraud anybody?

Right here!

http://www.law360.com/articles/441106/firms-trump-targeted-in-1b-row-over-investment-losses

Firms, Trump Targeted In $1B Row Over Investment Losses

Law360, New York (May 13, 2013, 8:01 PM ET) -- Real estate magnate Donald Trump and big law firms including Nixon Peabody LLP and Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP were targeted Monday in a $1 billion battle by Holocaust survivors and others over an investment scheme by the former promoter of a failed Trump hotel in Florida.
In a summons filed in New York state court, the plaintiffs claimed the defendants helped hide the 1998 conviction of Felix Sater, who had been involved in a $40 million racketeering scheme and had previously also admitted to his role in a pump-and-dump stock fraud that defrauded investors, including the Holocaust survivors bringing the current claims.

The plaintiffs lobbed claims including fraud, negligence, breach of fiduciary duty and negligent misrepresentation, among others, according to the complaint.

Bayrock Group has developed other Trump Hotels including TrumpSoho, which in 2011 moved to settle a lawsuit over the condominium units brought by a group of buyers who claimed they were duped into purchasing them based on exaggerated sales data.

Buyers had claimed Trump and his hotel promoted that building as “30, 40, 50, 60 percent or more sold,” when in fact the true number was 16 percent — just 1 percent more than the minimum necessary to start an offering plan, according to court documents.

 

[Derideo_Te]

The entire nation saw T-Rump telling his goons to remove the reporter from Univision from his press conference.

Trump ejects Univision anchor from press conference - CNNPolitics.com

Univision anchor ejected from Trump news conference

He was also allowed back in to ask his question. You conveniently left that out.

Only because the rest of the press corp questioned his un-American behavior and his failure to address legitimate questions.

What's un-American about asking someone to wait until called upon to ask their question instead of shouting down the person who WAS called upon?

Telling his goons to remove his from the room was un-American.

It's called "security". When the rude SOB kept interrupting everyone he was escorted out and let back in later. BTW, I don't recall you criticizing Hillary for banning the press at her rallies. Isn't that "un-American"?

Reporters are allowed to ask questions in press conferences because that is what they are there for.

The fact that you don't understand how they work exposes your ignorance.

 

[S.J.]

He inherited $10 billion?

You seem to think the ability to accumulate and hoard vast sums of money qualifies one to be President?

Is that right?

So you think the money he made should be given to you? Is that what you're saying?

I'm curious to know what convoluted process led you to that conclusion. Please explain.

What do you want him to do with his money? You said he "hoards" it. It's his money, where is it any of your business what he does with it?

 

[DarkFury]

Hmm, funny no one saw this on any credible news outlet.

The entire nation saw T-Rump telling his goons to remove the reporter from Univision from his press conference.

Trump ejects Univision anchor from press conference - CNNPolitics.com

Univision anchor ejected from Trump news conference

He was also allowed back in to ask his question. You conveniently left that out.

Only because the rest of the press corp questioned his un-American behavior and his failure to address legitimate questions.

What's un-American about asking someone to wait until called upon to ask their question instead of shouting down the person who WAS called upon?

Telling his goons to remove his from the room was un-American.

Ah no, teletardo it's NOT. HIS meeting HIS rules HIS choices.

 

[DarkFury]

He inherited $10 billion?

You seem to think the ability to accumulate and hoard vast sums of money qualifies one to be President?

Is that right?

So you think the money he made should be given to you? Is that what you're saying?

I'm curious to know what convoluted process led you to that conclusion. Please explain.

What do you want him to do with his money? You said he "hoards" it. It's his money, where is it any of your business what he does with it?

Liberals ALWAYS want money that belongs to other people. As if they deserve it no less.

 

[S.J.]

Your opinion, with nothing to back it up.

Eyeah...


What Trump didn’t say about his four big business bankruptcies

Go back and read your link and show me where he screwed anybody other than rich bankers (the ones you liberals hate so much) out of anything. It's not like he lost a trillion dollars of stimulus money and stuck the taxpayers with the bill the way Obama did.

Defrauding banks is illegal. But no big surprise that you support someone who had to file bankruptcy 4 times because he couldn't operate a legitimate business successfully.

Where was the indictment? Maybe because he didn't defraud anybody?

Right here!

Firms, Trump Targeted In $1B Row Over Investment Losses - Law360

Firms, Trump Targeted In $1B Row Over Investment Losses

Law360, New York (May 13, 2013, 8:01 PM ET) -- Real estate magnate Donald Trump and big law firms including Nixon Peabody LLP and Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP were targeted Monday in a $1 billion battle by Holocaust survivors and others over an investment scheme by the former promoter of a failed Trump hotel in Florida.
In a summons filed in New York state court, the plaintiffs claimed the defendants helped hide the 1998 conviction of Felix Sater, who had been involved in a $40 million racketeering scheme and had previously also admitted to his role in a pump-and-dump stock fraud that defrauded investors, including the Holocaust survivors bringing the current claims.

The plaintiffs lobbed claims including fraud, negligence, breach of fiduciary duty and negligent misrepresentation, among others, according to the complaint.

Bayrock Group has developed other Trump Hotels including TrumpSoho, which in 2011 moved to settle a lawsuit over the condominium units brought by a group of buyers who claimed they were duped into purchasing them based on exaggerated sales data.

Buyers had claimed Trump and his hotel promoted that building as “30, 40, 50, 60 percent or more sold,” when in fact the true number was 16 percent — just 1 percent more than the minimum necessary to start an offering plan, according to court documents.

I said "indictment", not "civil suit". Fraud is a crime, where is the criminal indictment?

 

[Vigilante]

Your opinion, with nothing to back it up.

Eyeah...


What Trump didn’t say about his four big business bankruptcies

Go back and read your link and show me where he screwed anybody other than rich bankers (the ones you liberals hate so much) out of anything. It's not like he lost a trillion dollars of stimulus money and stuck the taxpayers with the bill the way Obama did.

Defrauding banks is illegal. But no big surprise that you support someone who had to file bankruptcy 4 times because he couldn't operate a legitimate business successfully.

Where was the indictment? Maybe because he didn't defraud anybody?

Right here!

Firms, Trump Targeted In $1B Row Over Investment Losses - Law360

Firms, Trump Targeted In $1B Row Over Investment Losses

Law360, New York (May 13, 2013, 8:01 PM ET) -- Real estate magnate Donald Trump and big law firms including Nixon Peabody LLP and Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP were targeted Monday in a $1 billion battle by Holocaust survivors and others over an investment scheme by the former promoter of a failed Trump hotel in Florida.
In a summons filed in New York state court, the plaintiffs claimed the defendants helped hide the 1998 conviction of Felix Sater, who had been involved in a $40 million racketeering scheme and had previously also admitted to his role in a pump-and-dump stock fraud that defrauded investors, including the Holocaust survivors bringing the current claims.

The plaintiffs lobbed claims including fraud, negligence, breach of fiduciary duty and negligent misrepresentation, among others, according to the complaint.

Bayrock Group has developed other Trump Hotels including TrumpSoho, which in 2011 moved to settle a lawsuit over the condominium units brought by a group of buyers who claimed they were duped into purchasing them based on exaggerated sales data.

Buyers had claimed Trump and his hotel promoted that building as “30, 40, 50, 60 percent or more sold,” when in fact the true number was 16 percent — just 1 percent more than the minimum necessary to start an offering plan, according to court documents.

And what was the outcome of that suit, Lard Ass?

 

[S.J.]

He was also allowed back in to ask his question. You conveniently left that out.

Only because the rest of the press corp questioned his un-American behavior and his failure to address legitimate questions.

What's un-American about asking someone to wait until called upon to ask their question instead of shouting down the person who WAS called upon?

Telling his goons to remove his from the room was un-American.

It's called "security". When the rude SOB kept interrupting everyone he was escorted out and let back in later. BTW, I don't recall you criticizing Hillary for banning the press at her rallies. Isn't that "un-American"?

Reporters are allowed to ask questions in press conferences because that is what they are there for.

The fact that you don't understand how they work exposes your ignorance.

They're not allowed to shout everyone else down. How many times has Code Pink been removed from press conferences (of liberals) for disrupting them?

 

[Zander]

He's a perfect socialist- a professional politician who, over the course of his life, was unable to save for his own future while earning a high salary and living a lavish lifestyle, then blaming it on "the rich".

Have fun supporting him. He will fail. That is what he does.

Unless you consider a hoard of wealth to be the only measure of success, the simple fact is Bernie Sanders is a very successful man. He earns a good (not necessarily "high") salary because he's been a good political representative, as his constituents repeatedly attest by re-electing him.

Well, you are entitled to your opinion.

Personally, I think he's a total and complete failure who's spent his entire life in government. He is the exact opposite of what we need.

I don't expect Sanders to have a "hoard of wealth", but this turkey has basically nothing at age 73! His net worth is less than 500K after a 55 years of working? That takes a special kind of recklessness and stupidity. If he can't take care of his own finances how can he manage ours?

 

[Derideo_Te]

The entire nation saw T-Rump telling his goons to remove the reporter from Univision from his press conference.

Trump ejects Univision anchor from press conference - CNNPolitics.com

Univision anchor ejected from Trump news conference

He was also allowed back in to ask his question. You conveniently left that out.

Only because the rest of the press corp questioned his un-American behavior and his failure to address legitimate questions.

What's un-American about asking someone to wait until called upon to ask their question instead of shouting down the person who WAS called upon?

Telling his goons to remove his from the room was un-American.

Ah no, teletardo it's NOT. HIS meeting HIS rules HIS choices.

BZZZT Wrong again!

T-Rump wants to be the POTUS for We the People therefore he has to play by the rules set out in the Constitution's 1st Amendment.

Obviously those concepts are beyond your 21.4 IQ, baby Huey.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Dems tired of working, they want Bernie!

He'll be Obama for White America

 

[Sallow]

Dems tired of working, they want Bernie!

He'll be Obama for White America

People voting for Sanders aren't "tired of working". What they are tired of is 99% of the wealth generated by their work is ending up in the hands of 1% of the population.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Eyeah...


What Trump didn’t say about his four big business bankruptcies

Go back and read your link and show me where he screwed anybody other than rich bankers (the ones you liberals hate so much) out of anything. It's not like he lost a trillion dollars of stimulus money and stuck the taxpayers with the bill the way Obama did.

Defrauding banks is illegal. But no big surprise that you support someone who had to file bankruptcy 4 times because he couldn't operate a legitimate business successfully.

Where was the indictment? Maybe because he didn't defraud anybody?

Right here!

Firms, Trump Targeted In $1B Row Over Investment Losses - Law360

Firms, Trump Targeted In $1B Row Over Investment Losses

Law360, New York (May 13, 2013, 8:01 PM ET) -- Real estate magnate Donald Trump and big law firms including Nixon Peabody LLP and Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP were targeted Monday in a $1 billion battle by Holocaust survivors and others over an investment scheme by the former promoter of a failed Trump hotel in Florida.
In a summons filed in New York state court, the plaintiffs claimed the defendants helped hide the 1998 conviction of Felix Sater, who had been involved in a $40 million racketeering scheme and had previously also admitted to his role in a pump-and-dump stock fraud that defrauded investors, including the Holocaust survivors bringing the current claims.

The plaintiffs lobbed claims including fraud, negligence, breach of fiduciary duty and negligent misrepresentation, among others, according to the complaint.

Bayrock Group has developed other Trump Hotels including TrumpSoho, which in 2011 moved to settle a lawsuit over the condominium units brought by a group of buyers who claimed they were duped into purchasing them based on exaggerated sales data.

Buyers had claimed Trump and his hotel promoted that building as “30, 40, 50, 60 percent or more sold,” when in fact the true number was 16 percent — just 1 percent more than the minimum necessary to start an offering plan, according to court documents.

I said "indictment", not "civil suit". Fraud is a crime, where is the criminal indictment?

Patience, grasshopper!

These things take time to unfold. The discovery process in underway. Once the paperwork comes to light they will proceed accordingly. Either T-Rump will be forced to make restitution or he will be indicted. The odds are he will pay up rather than face jail time.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Only because the rest of the press corp questioned his un-American behavior and his failure to address legitimate questions.

What's un-American about asking someone to wait until called upon to ask their question instead of shouting down the person who WAS called upon?

Telling his goons to remove his from the room was un-American.

It's called "security". When the rude SOB kept interrupting everyone he was escorted out and let back in later. BTW, I don't recall you criticizing Hillary for banning the press at her rallies. Isn't that "un-American"?

Reporters are allowed to ask questions in press conferences because that is what they are there for.

The fact that you don't understand how they work exposes your ignorance.

They're not allowed to shout everyone else down. How many times has Code Pink been removed from press conferences (of liberals) for disrupting them?

Reporters are members of the press corps with credentials that give them the right to ask questions.

Code pink and hecklers are not.

Once again your ignorance is on display.

 

[browsing deer]

Go back and read your link and show me where he screwed anybody other than rich bankers (the ones you liberals hate so much) out of anything. It's not like he lost a trillion dollars of stimulus money and stuck the taxpayers with the bill the way Obama did.

Defrauding banks is illegal. But no big surprise that you support someone who had to file bankruptcy 4 times because he couldn't operate a legitimate business successfully.

Where was the indictment? Maybe because he didn't defraud anybody?

Right here!

Firms, Trump Targeted In $1B Row Over Investment Losses - Law360

Firms, Trump Targeted In $1B Row Over Investment Losses

Law360, New York (May 13, 2013, 8:01 PM ET) -- Real estate magnate Donald Trump and big law firms including Nixon Peabody LLP and Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP were targeted Monday in a $1 billion battle by Holocaust survivors and others over an investment scheme by the former promoter of a failed Trump hotel in Florida.
In a summons filed in New York state court, the plaintiffs claimed the defendants helped hide the 1998 conviction of Felix Sater, who had been involved in a $40 million racketeering scheme and had previously also admitted to his role in a pump-and-dump stock fraud that defrauded investors, including the Holocaust survivors bringing the current claims.

The plaintiffs lobbed claims including fraud, negligence, breach of fiduciary duty and negligent misrepresentation, among others, according to the complaint.

Bayrock Group has developed other Trump Hotels including TrumpSoho, which in 2011 moved to settle a lawsuit over the condominium units brought by a group of buyers who claimed they were duped into purchasing them based on exaggerated sales data.

Buyers had claimed Trump and his hotel promoted that building as “30, 40, 50, 60 percent or more sold,” when in fact the true number was 16 percent — just 1 percent more than the minimum necessary to start an offering plan, according to court documents.

I said "indictment", not "civil suit". Fraud is a crime, where is the criminal indictment?

Patience, grasshopper!

These things take time to unfold. The discovery process in underway. Once the paperwork comes to light they will proceed accordingly. Either T-Rump will be forced to make restitution or he will be indicted. The odds are he will pay up rather than face jail time.

Fraud is fraud.. Dear Gd, let him wear orange!

 

[Two Thumbs]

Bullshit irrelevant article. Of course there are differences. Any retard could see that, and Stats proves it. IT is the similarities that are interesting.

However, fake rabid rabbi rabbit, very few real similarities. That's the point. Adults understand this. Now, go play with your Tonka toys. Oh, and L'shana Tova tikatevu, fake Jew.

"Feel free to read the entire link, which I have deliberately not quoted at all, pick one or more of the ten points, and discuss, hopefully, like adults." ....... Statistikhengst

"" ..... Two Thumbs

 

[NLT]

Stop Comparing Donald Trump And Bernie Sanders


A lot of people want to say that Sanders (D) and Trump (R) are alike in respect to their parties. Nate Silver disagrees and he lists 10 specific reasons why.

You will find those reasons listed at the article.

I personally think that points 5, 7 and 9 are the strongest points and point 5 is probably the most overlooked, esp. by the press.

No doubt, we are talking about two very different men who are being compared to each other based on the perception that they are from the "outside". Only, Sanders is not from the outside.

It is no doubt interesting to watch.

Feel free to read the entire link, which I have deliberately not quoted at all, pick one or more of the ten points, and discuss, hopefully, like adults.

No comparison at all, Sanders is a old NYC Jew socialist and Trump is not. End of story.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Dems tired of working, they want Bernie!

He'll be Obama for White America

People voting for Sanders aren't "tired of working". What they are tired of is 99% of the wealth generated by their work is ending up in the hands of 1% of the population.

You know that's crap, why do you say it?

What about the 40% of it that goes to government?