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NATO Patriot Missiles Show Turkey's Military Weakness; NATO Patriot Missiles Show Turkey's Military Weakness

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Turkey, perceiving ballistic missile threat from Syria, called on NATO to deploy Patriot missile batteries on Turkish soil against this threat. NATO approved the Turkish request and decided to deploy six batteries, two each from the US, Germany and Netherlands, in Turkey close to the Syrian border.

After joint assessments made with the Turkish government, it was agreed to deploy the US Patriots at Gaziantep, the German batteries at Kahramanmaras and the Dutch ones at Adana. According to press reports, the Patriots will be operational in January. Adana, Turkey’s fourth largest city, is 100 kilometers (62 miles) from the Syria border, where the important US-Turkish airbase at Incirlik is located. Gaziantep, an important industrial center with 1.5 million population is 60 km (37 miles) to the Syrian border. Kahramanmaras, the provincial capital with a population of half a million, is 150 km (93 miles) north of the border.

These geographic data illustrate that the deployment of the Patriots doesn’t mean imposing a no-fly zone over Syria. Also, the deployment data indicate that these batteries have no offensive objectives.
The data also shows that the Patriot batteries will not be defending the NATO anti-ballistic missile defense system set up in rural Malatya.
But the purpose of this article is not to set out what Patriot deployments doesn’t mean but what they actually mean. That is more interesting.
Patriots reveal Turkey’s military capacity deficiency to back up its ambitious foreign policy.

Simple but true: In the summer of 2011, Turkey decided to bring down the Baath regime in Damascus and sought ways to implement its decision as much as its capacity allowed.. Turkey did everything it could with the exception of direct military intervention in Syria. It is not a secret that Turkey sponsored the initial organization and coordination of the Syrian opposition, opened its territory to the use of the opposition military forces and provided logistical support to them.

The roles Turkey played in arming of the opposition forces are now a secret known by all. Ankara, despite the objections of its Western allies, promoted creation of buffer zones in Syria and even direct intervention. To this end, although at the end they did not succeed, Turkey devised and applied aggressive policies.
Some western capitals were worried that Turkey’s disproportionate response to killing of its five citizens at Akcakale by Syrian artillery fire could have ignited an unwanted war.

In the final analysis, Turkey became a country that for the first time in its history openly strived to terminate a regime in a neighboring country and treated that regime as an enemy. Of course, nothing could be more natural for the Baath regime to feel the same enmity against Turkey.
It was known from the outset that Syria had chemical weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles that could deliver them to distant targets. Turkey, on the other hand, does not have the capability of intercepting these missiles in flight and destroying them.

This in itself is a clear indication that Turkey’s current military capacity is not enough to support an aggressive and ambitious Syria policy.
Can the Baath regime in Syria fire their Scuds at Turkey with or without chemical warheads? When the collapse of the regime becomes inevitable, could they press the buttons for Scuds to punish Turkey, to drag Turkey into the crisis or to destabilize the entire region?
These questions don’t really mean much. What is important is that a hostile regime perceiving a vital threat from Turkey has deadly weapons that Turkey could not confront without the help of its Western allies.

Turkey and its Western allies, no matter how divergent their ideologies and strategies may be, agreed on the need to terminate the Syrian regime. But Turkey went too far ahead of its allies and then slowed down and asked for their assistance when it perceived the threats.
Since Turkey had to approve NATO’s “New Strategic Concept” adopted at November 2010 Lisbon summit, it must now enter into a realignment with the Western alliance. Turkey, which had anyway agreed to deployment of a NATO ballistic missile defense system on its soil by agreeing to the New Strategic Concept, also had to bid farewell to its policy of zero problems with Iran.

We should not forget this Turkey had defied the West only a few months before November 2010 and puts its name to the Tehran Declaration along with Brazil and Iran, and caused raised eyebrows in Western capitals by rejecting the UN Security Council’s fortified sanctions against Iran’s nuclear program.
Turkey couldn’t pursue its “zero problems with Iran” policy because its political capacity was not adequate when faced with a “take it or leave it” dilemma vis-à-vis the Western alliance. It either had to agree to the deployment of the NATO radar in Turkey or blow up its bridges to the Western alliance. Turkey had no third option. And, Turkey did not have the capacity to abandon the Western alliance.

In short, this realignment is unstable because it is not caused by ideological or strategic standpoints but by lack of capacity and not having another option.
When you look at it from a NATO perspective, the Western alliance proved once again that it is a robust alliance by adhering to principles of cooperative security and indivisibility of security by closing the security gap of one of its members.

NATO Patriot Missiles Show Turkey's Military Weakness - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East
 
^^^^^^ I am sure such a post would be illegal in Turkey. LMAO.

Ataturk's wife's autobiography was banned there because she wrote about his infidelities. Any nation that has to censor facts like that is announcing its wussiness, IMHO.
 
I see you've missed my point entirely. Her diaries being 'private' means they are the property of her heirs/estate/family: the government should NOT be allowed to prevent their publication for any reason which doesn't involve highly classified sensitive information.

Thanks for proving that the Turkish government are a bunch of nasty frightened old men insecure in their masculinity.
 
Without the support of Nato and the west, Turkey would be a weak pile of ****.

Turkey wouldn't exist as a country - beyond the Anatolian plateau - if Kemal Attaturk hadn't rallied the Turkish army after WWI, driven the Greeks, the French, the British, the Armenians off what is today Turkey. He also crushed a Kurdish uprising later.

Turkey has done well to date militarily. The question is whether the constitution can be rewritten so that the army doesn't intervene whenever there's a crisis, & command & control of the military remain in civilian hands.

There's a lot @ stake, if Turkey can serve as a model for Islamic countries to find a way to come to an accommodation with Western-style republics, democracies, politics & diverse faiths, ethnicities, races. We should wish them well.
 
Without the support of Nato and the west, Turkey would be a weak pile of ****.

Turkey wouldn't exist as a country - beyond the Anatolian plateau - if Kemal Attaturk hadn't rallied the Turkish army after WWI, driven the Greeks, the French, the British, the Armenians off what is today Turkey. He also crushed a Kurdish uprising later.

Turkey has done well to date militarily. The question is whether the constitution can be rewritten so that the army doesn't intervene whenever there's a crisis, & command & control of the military remain in civilian hands.

There's a lot @ stake, if Turkey can serve as a model for Islamic countries to find a way to come to an accommodation with Western-style republics, democracies, politics & diverse faiths, ethnicities, races. We should wish them well.

Not saying they don't have a decent military, but the only reason we are not independent yet is because of Nato's protection over them. Also you should understand that the Turks only managed to occupy our country through lies and betrayel, we cooperated with them, and in return they didn't keep their promise of giving us our state. So no, Turkey is far from powerful, they are a bunch of sad liars.

Don't you see it? They are occupying our homeland, so why the hell should i wish them well?
 
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Kurdistani - Yah, there's a lot of ugly history in the World. The Kurds have been used & abused for a long time, no doubt. Even the US played the Kurds off against Iran, Iraq, Syria (?)

We picked up up bad habits from the British.
 
Kurdistani - Yah, there's a lot of ugly history in the World. The Kurds have been used & abused for a long time, no doubt. Even the US played the Kurds off against Iran, Iraq, Syria (?)

We picked up up bad habits from the British.

I guess that's so, but sometimes i wonder why nobody hears about the Kurdish struggle, when situations much less meaningfull are sent as worldwide news on daily basis. Things haven't been bright for Kurds ever since the early 16'th century, where we we're occupied and devided between The Ottomans and the Safavids.
There is nothing more strange than watching TV and listen to the FN speak about great human-rights in Turkey, all while in reality Kurds are treated like junk. It's like we are invisible, they don't see a nation if 40 million people living under heavy oppression and occupation.
 
You're not the only one who's wondered about that. But while the US can make use of Turkey as an 'ally' - I think the US government won't be mentioning Turkey's HR violations any more than they'll notice KSA's worse HR record.

I indeed wish that international relations were based on what is fair and right - but I don't think ANY nation sets that as a high priority.
 

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