Nazi Sources Prove the Nazis Were Socialists

[Pogo]

A few days ago, The Federalist website published a fascinating article by Paul Jossey on evidence from Nazi sources that shows that Hitler and the Nazis were socialists. Here's an excerpt from the article:

Yet the evidence the Nazis were leftists goes well beyond the views of this one scholar. Philosophically, Nazi doctrine fit well with the other strains of socialism ripping through Europe at the time. Hitler’s first “National Workers’ Party” meeting while he was still an Army corporal featured the speech “How and by What Means is Capitalism to be Eliminated?”

The Nazi charter published a year later and coauthored by Hitler is socialist in almost every aspect. It calls for “equality of rights for the German people”; the subjugation of the individual to the state; breaking of “rent slavery”; “confiscation of war profits”; the nationalization of industry; profit-sharing in heavy industry; large-scale social security; the “communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low costs to small firms”; the “free expropriation of land for the purpose of public utility”; the abolition of “materialistic” Roman Law; nationalizing education; nationalizing the army; state regulation of the press; and strong central power in the Reich.​

Ignant OP tries to float "Nazis = Socialists" because hey they said so and Hitler would never lie ----- and then proceeds to list the traits of Fascism.

Pop quiz OP .... how many grapes are in this box? How many nuts?

Because hey, Post cereals would never lie.....

Some wags will just never grok the concept of marketing, even while they swallow it whole.

Socialism and Fascism are not mutually exclusive terms, jackass.

They sure were in 1930s Germany, pignose.

 

[Muhammed]

A few days ago, The Federalist website published a fascinating article by Paul Jossey on evidence from Nazi sources that shows that Hitler and the Nazis were socialists. Here's an excerpt from the article:

Yet the evidence the Nazis were leftists goes well beyond the views of this one scholar. Philosophically, Nazi doctrine fit well with the other strains of socialism ripping through Europe at the time. Hitler’s first “National Workers’ Party” meeting while he was still an Army corporal featured the speech “How and by What Means is Capitalism to be Eliminated?”

The Nazi charter published a year later and coauthored by Hitler is socialist in almost every aspect. It calls for “equality of rights for the German people”; the subjugation of the individual to the state; breaking of “rent slavery”; “confiscation of war profits”; the nationalization of industry; profit-sharing in heavy industry; large-scale social security; the “communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low costs to small firms”; the “free expropriation of land for the purpose of public utility”; the abolition of “materialistic” Roman Law; nationalizing education; nationalizing the army; state regulation of the press; and strong central power in the Reich.​

Ignant OP tries to float "Nazis = Socialists" because hey they said so and Hitler would never lie ----- and then proceeds to list the traits of Fascism.

Pop quiz OP .... how many grapes are in this box? How many nuts?

Because hey, Post cereals would never lie.....

Some wags will just never grok the concept of marketing, even while they swallow it whole.

Socialism and Fascism are not mutually exclusive terms, jackass.

They sure were in 1930s Germany, pignose.

You're lying, jackass.

For example, The National Socialist German Workers party was very fascistic in nature.

 

[Pogo]

A few days ago, The Federalist website published a fascinating article by Paul Jossey on evidence from Nazi sources that shows that Hitler and the Nazis were socialists. Here's an excerpt from the article:

Yet the evidence the Nazis were leftists goes well beyond the views of this one scholar. Philosophically, Nazi doctrine fit well with the other strains of socialism ripping through Europe at the time. Hitler’s first “National Workers’ Party” meeting while he was still an Army corporal featured the speech “How and by What Means is Capitalism to be Eliminated?”

The Nazi charter published a year later and coauthored by Hitler is socialist in almost every aspect. It calls for “equality of rights for the German people”; the subjugation of the individual to the state; breaking of “rent slavery”; “confiscation of war profits”; the nationalization of industry; profit-sharing in heavy industry; large-scale social security; the “communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low costs to small firms”; the “free expropriation of land for the purpose of public utility”; the abolition of “materialistic” Roman Law; nationalizing education; nationalizing the army; state regulation of the press; and strong central power in the Reich.​

Ignant OP tries to float "Nazis = Socialists" because hey they said so and Hitler would never lie ----- and then proceeds to list the traits of Fascism.

Pop quiz OP .... how many grapes are in this box? How many nuts?

Because hey, Post cereals would never lie.....

Some wags will just never grok the concept of marketing, even while they swallow it whole.

Socialism and Fascism are not mutually exclusive terms, jackass.

They sure were in 1930s Germany, pignose.

You're lying, jackass.

I never lie. Look it up, duckbreath.

 

[Muhammed]

A few days ago, The Federalist website published a fascinating article by Paul Jossey on evidence from Nazi sources that shows that Hitler and the Nazis were socialists. Here's an excerpt from the article:

Yet the evidence the Nazis were leftists goes well beyond the views of this one scholar. Philosophically, Nazi doctrine fit well with the other strains of socialism ripping through Europe at the time. Hitler’s first “National Workers’ Party” meeting while he was still an Army corporal featured the speech “How and by What Means is Capitalism to be Eliminated?”

The Nazi charter published a year later and coauthored by Hitler is socialist in almost every aspect. It calls for “equality of rights for the German people”; the subjugation of the individual to the state; breaking of “rent slavery”; “confiscation of war profits”; the nationalization of industry; profit-sharing in heavy industry; large-scale social security; the “communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low costs to small firms”; the “free expropriation of land for the purpose of public utility”; the abolition of “materialistic” Roman Law; nationalizing education; nationalizing the army; state regulation of the press; and strong central power in the Reich.​

Ignant OP tries to float "Nazis = Socialists" because hey they said so and Hitler would never lie ----- and then proceeds to list the traits of Fascism.

Pop quiz OP .... how many grapes are in this box? How many nuts?

Because hey, Post cereals would never lie.....

Some wags will just never grok the concept of marketing, even while they swallow it whole.

Socialism and Fascism are not mutually exclusive terms, jackass.

They sure were in 1930s Germany, pignose.

You're lying, jackass.

I never lie. Look it up, duckbreath.

Bullshit!
In 1930s Germany, the National Socialist German Workers party was very fascistic in nature.

 

[Pogo]

Ignant OP tries to float "Nazis = Socialists" because hey they said so and Hitler would never lie ----- and then proceeds to list the traits of Fascism.

Pop quiz OP .... how many grapes are in this box? How many nuts?

Because hey, Post cereals would never lie.....

Some wags will just never grok the concept of marketing, even while they swallow it whole.

Socialism and Fascism are not mutually exclusive terms, jackass.

They sure were in 1930s Germany, pignose.

You're lying, jackass.

I never lie. Look it up, duckbreath.

Bullshit!
In 1930s Germany, the National Socialist German Workers party was very fascistic in nature.

Bravo Madge. That's kind of the point of this whole thread. Or at least it's the point of the corrections thereto.

Duh.

 

[Muhammed]

Socialism and Fascism are not mutually exclusive terms, jackass.

They sure were in 1930s Germany, pignose.

You're lying, jackass.

I never lie. Look it up, duckbreath.

Bullshit!
In 1930s Germany, the National Socialist German Workers party was very fascistic in nature.

Bravo Madge. That's kind of the point of this whole thread. Or at least it's the point of the corrections thereto.

Duh.

Your concession is accepted.

 

[bripat9643]

The Nazi failed to implement their socialism agenda, their socialist program; was forgotten and the socialist leaders killed.

Pretty damn quickly too. That's what the SA (Brownshirts) was organized for ---- to intimidate and assault the Socialists. Hitler declared their party illegal and then made them the first "guests" at his first concentration camp, Dachau.

Ya gotta wonder at the OP and his ilk who keep running this "Nazis were socialists" canard up the same flagpole when it should be obvious by now nobody's buying this bullshit.

The brain-dead leftwing theory that only people who aren't socialists kill socialists or put them in concentration camps couldn't be more wrong. The first thing a socialist party does once it gets into power is outlaw all the other socialists parties. It kills all their members or sends them to concentration camps. That's what the Russians did, the Cubans and the Nazis.

 

[bripat9643]

The Nazi failed to implement their socialism agenda, their socialist program; was forgotten and the socialist leaders killed.

You mean they weren't socialists because they lost the war? Really?

 

[Disir]

Of course, Jossey's fine article is not the first treatise to point out the evidence that the Nazis were socialists. Here's another written just a few weeks ago:

Nazis Were Not Marxists, but They Were Socialists | Jörg Guido Hülsmann

Additionally, there have been many studies on the fact that Hitler and the Nazis loved Darwinian evolution and used it to support their Aryan-supremacy views. See, for example, California State University Professor Richard Weikart's book From Darwin to Hitler:

https://www.amazon.com/Darwin-Hitler-Evolutionary-Eugenics-Germany/dp/140397201X&tag=ff0d01-20

See also his article "Was Darwinism Banned from Nazi Germany?":

Was Darwinism Banned from Nazi Germany? | Evolution News

Social Darwinism. Hitler was rather jealous that the US was able to pass sterilization laws. He desperately wanted to be at the front of the eugenics movement.

 

[Disir]

The program of the NSDAP

The program is the political foundation of the NSDAP and accordingly the primary political law of the State. It has been made brief and clear intentionally.

All legal precepts must be applied in the spirit of the party program.

Since the taking over of control, the Fuehrer has succeeded in the realization of essential portions of the Party program from the fundamentals to the detail.

The Party Program of the NSDAP was proclaimed on the 24 February 1920 by Adolf Hitler at the first large Party gathering in Munich and since that day has remained unaltered. Within the national socialist philosophy is summarized in 25 points:

1. We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany on the basis of the right of self-determination of peoples.

2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in respect to the other nations; abrogation of the peace treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people, and colonization for our surplus population.

4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no Jew can be a member of the race.

5. Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest, and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.

6. The right to determine matters concerning administration and law belongs only to the citizen. Therefore we demand that every public office, of any sort whatsoever, whether in the Reich, the county or municipality, be filled only by citizens. We combat the corrupting parliamentary economy, office-holding only according to party inclinations without consideration of character or abilities.

7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.

8. Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since the 2 August 1914, be forced immediately to leave the Reich.

9. All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.

10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all Consequently we demand:

11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.

12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, Schieber and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.

19. We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.

20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.

21. The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.

22. We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.

23. We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that: a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race: b. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the State to be published. They may not be printed in the German language: c. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications, or any influence on them, and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life, and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.

24. We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework: common utility precedes individual utility.

25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.

Adolf Hitler proclaimed the following explanation for this program on the 13 April 1928:

Explanation

Regarding the false interpretations of Point 17 of the program of the NSDAP on the part of our opponents, the following definition is necessary:

"Since the NSDAP stands on the platform of private ownership it happens that the passage" gratuitous expropriation concerns only the creation of legal opportunities to expropriate if necessary, land which has been illegally acquired or is not administered from the view-point of the national welfare. This is directed primarily against the Jewish land-speculation companies.

Source:
Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression Volume IV
Office of the United States Chief Counsel for Prosecution of Axis Criminality
Washington, DC : United States Government Printing Office, 1946
USMARC Cataloging Record
Internet History Sourcebooks

 

[K9Buck]

I've had liberals tell me that Hitler supported free-market capitalism, the antithesis of socialism, communism and, yes, fascism.

 

[bripat9643]

I've had liberals tell me that Hitler supported free-market capitalism, the antithesis of socialism, communism and, yes, fascism.

99% of what leftwingers say about the Nazis is based on ignorance and propaganda.

 

[bripat9643]

Why is it so important for the alt right to distance itself from the Nazis ?

Its bizarre.

The nazis and the alt right share the same hate. Gays,socialists,trade unions,blacks ,jews and so on.

Are they trying to deflect the stain from their agenda ?

I think that they are wasting their time.

We have seen the effects of the nazi beliefs and despite sporadic outbreaks of nazism the general population will not tolerate this shit.

Right wing trash only gain traction when there is economic hardship because they can offer up an array of scapegoats. That is what is happening today and explains trump and brexit.

The same people deflecting on this thread infest the racism forum with their poisoon and are generally grouped as the lower ability members of this community. If you have failed in life you need someone to blame, but dont call me a nazi I suppose.

Just because folks march with torches and chant Nazi expressions, make Nazi salutes, and proclaim a love for Hitler does not mean they are bad people. Some of them are good people. Trump said so.

Another drone mischaracterizing what Trump said. How utterly predictable.

 

[Pogo]

I've had liberals tell me that Hitler supported free-market capitalism, the antithesis of socialism, communism and, yes, fascism.

99% of what leftwingers say about the Nazis is based on ignorance and propaganda.

Who ya gonna believe --- seventy years of political scientists and historians.... or a kid giving the finger with jelly smeared all over his face.

 

[bripat9643]

I've had liberals tell me that Hitler supported free-market capitalism, the antithesis of socialism, communism and, yes, fascism.

99% of what leftwingers say about the Nazis is based on ignorance and propaganda.

Who ya gonna believe --- seventy years of political scientists and historians.... or a kid giving the finger with jelly smeared all over his face.

I certainly wouldn't believe a bunch of Marxist hacks on the government payroll.

 

[bodecea]

A few days ago, The Federalist website published a fascinating article by Paul Jossey on evidence from Nazi sources that shows that Hitler and the Nazis were socialists. Here's an excerpt from the article:

Yet the evidence the Nazis were leftists goes well beyond the views of this one scholar. Philosophically, Nazi doctrine fit well with the other strains of socialism ripping through Europe at the time. Hitler’s first “National Workers’ Party” meeting while he was still an Army corporal featured the speech “How and by What Means is Capitalism to be Eliminated?”

The Nazi charter published a year later and coauthored by Hitler is socialist in almost every aspect. It calls for “equality of rights for the German people”; the subjugation of the individual to the state; breaking of “rent slavery”; “confiscation of war profits”; the nationalization of industry; profit-sharing in heavy industry; large-scale social security; the “communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low costs to small firms”; the “free expropriation of land for the purpose of public utility”; the abolition of “materialistic” Roman Law; nationalizing education; nationalizing the army; state regulation of the press; and strong central power in the Reich.​

Were christians too.

 

[regent]

The Nazi failed to implement their socialism agenda, their socialist program; was forgotten and the socialist leaders killed.

Pretty damn quickly too. That's what the SA (Brownshirts) was organized for ---- to intimidate and assault the Socialists. Hitler declared their party illegal and then made them the first "guests" at his first concentration camp, Dachau.

Ya gotta wonder at the OP and his ilk who keep running this "Nazis were socialists" canard up the same flagpole when it should be obvious by now nobody's buying this bullshit.

The brain-dead leftwing theory that only people who aren't socialists kill socialists or put them in concentration camps couldn't be more wrong. The first thing a socialist party does once it gets into power is outlaw all the other socialists parties. It kills all their members or sends them to concentration camps. That's what the Russians did, the Cubans and the Nazis.

The history of Nazi Germany is pretty well documented and libraries still loan books, might want to look it up.

 

[bripat9643]

The Nazi failed to implement their socialism agenda, their socialist program; was forgotten and the socialist leaders killed.

Pretty damn quickly too. That's what the SA (Brownshirts) was organized for ---- to intimidate and assault the Socialists. Hitler declared their party illegal and then made them the first "guests" at his first concentration camp, Dachau.

Ya gotta wonder at the OP and his ilk who keep running this "Nazis were socialists" canard up the same flagpole when it should be obvious by now nobody's buying this bullshit.

The brain-dead leftwing theory that only people who aren't socialists kill socialists or put them in concentration camps couldn't be more wrong. The first thing a socialist party does once it gets into power is outlaw all the other socialists parties. It kills all their members or sends them to concentration camps. That's what the Russians did, the Cubans and the Nazis.

The history of Nazi Germany is pretty well documented and libraries still loan books, might want to look it up.

I have read hundreds of books about Nazi Germany, you fucking moron. I love it when ignorant douchebags pretend they know something about this subject.

 

[francoHFW]

The Nazi failed to implement their socialism agenda, their socialist program; was forgotten and the socialist leaders killed.

Pretty damn quickly too. That's what the SA (Brownshirts) was organized for ---- to intimidate and assault the Socialists. Hitler declared their party illegal and then made them the first "guests" at his first concentration camp, Dachau.

Ya gotta wonder at the OP and his ilk who keep running this "Nazis were socialists" canard up the same flagpole when it should be obvious by now nobody's buying this bullshit.

The brain-dead leftwing theory that only people who aren't socialists kill socialists or put them in concentration camps couldn't be more wrong. The first thing a socialist party does once it gets into power is outlaw all the other socialists parties. It kills all their members or sends them to concentration camps. That's what the Russians did, the Cubans and the Nazis.

Those are communists not socialists. Join the rest of the world in the definition that is everywhere but right-wing duped America. Easy way to tell communism is a dictatorship socialism is a democracy.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

A few days ago, The Federalist website published a fascinating article by Paul Jossey on evidence from Nazi sources that shows that Hitler and the Nazis were socialists. Here's an excerpt from the article:

Yet the evidence the Nazis were leftists goes well beyond the views of this one scholar. Philosophically, Nazi doctrine fit well with the other strains of socialism ripping through Europe at the time. Hitler’s first “National Workers’ Party” meeting while he was still an Army corporal featured the speech “How and by What Means is Capitalism to be Eliminated?”

The Nazi charter published a year later and coauthored by Hitler is socialist in almost every aspect. It calls for “equality of rights for the German people”; the subjugation of the individual to the state; breaking of “rent slavery”; “confiscation of war profits”; the nationalization of industry; profit-sharing in heavy industry; large-scale social security; the “communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low costs to small firms”; the “free expropriation of land for the purpose of public utility”; the abolition of “materialistic” Roman Law; nationalizing education; nationalizing the army; state regulation of the press; and strong central power in the Reich.​

Were christians too.

Nazis mostly killed White Christians.