HereWeGoAgain
Diamond Member
How many can work their way up?If you’re rich why tell us to vote republican. We know they work for youI’m in the upper class. I believe a single person household making over $85k is upper class. I’m upper class.When I argue if the economy is good overall I don’t take into account I make 6 figures or that my brother makes over $500,000 a year as an executive at a Fortune 500.I’m just like you. I tripled sales so I now make more than everyone else at my work. I’m not talking about us the top 10% I’m talking about everybody else. They don’t make shit. I don’t know how they survive.I was forced to join a union back in 1998 under the Maryland forced labor laws. I was the only electronic/pneumatic technician in a union full of steam fitters and HVAC mechs. Local 99. During my 1 year working there, i had a few union workers upset that i was paid more than them, because i was the new guy and havent paid my time and dues yet. While they could work on steam and Hvac stuff, i asked them if they could fix circuit cards and other electric stuff, they said no, and i said that was why i was paid more than them....Make yourself valuable, you get paid for that value. If you are a dime a dozen, be paid that dime....Yea, I've given up on America and Americans. They/you get what you deserve. I'm doing fine but are they/you? And who's going to maga for you? Trump? LOLI like his advice though. Just don’t tell people you’re voting for biden. I told some republicans at the dog park I don’t like trump and now they call me a libtard.Who the hell is Don Winslow? Another angry TDS leftie? Ho hum.
The one guy was black, the other gay and the one doesn’t make a lot of money. Anazing how these Three don’t care about the racism, homophobia or the fact That republicans only care about the rich.
So thats all you took away from your encounter?
Sad....
I MAGA'd myself.
And you're right...I did get what I deserve through hard work and perseverance.
Back when my father was 20 you could go work for a company and raise a family and get a pension and have great medical. My dad didn’t even graduate high school. And my mom worked at a hospital. She made great money too. She had a high school degree.
Today college grads don’t have it as good as my parents had it. If you’re telling blue collar that America is great again, you’re lying to them. But hey, if they’re dumb enough to vote for trump or not show up and vote, I guess the masses get what they deserve.
Im debt free. Even if I lost my 6 figure job I could work a minimum wage job and still pay my bills And survive till I retire in 12 years. I just hope trump doesn’t win because a second term trump will cut our social security 20% in order to save the program and you cons will bend over and take that too.
I quite HS in the tenth grade...and retired at 46.
I did however have Trumps magic wand....it's filled with white privilege.
What does the fact we make so much have to do with the fact the middle class today isn’t what it once was and is disappearing?
How can you deny it? Isn’t that what trumps bring8ng jobs back home and throwing illegals out all about? Raising wages for struggling blue collar?
Are you suggesting trump has solved the problems blue collar America has?
Why would you bring up your brother? And "we" make so much?
Still live with your brother and rely on his income...how embarrassing.
Yes Trump has helped Blue Collar workers immensely.
Try and deny it.
Trump hasn’t helped the middle class and blue collar immensely. That’s a joke. Are you new here or something?
If thats upper class I'm filthy rich.
Wages are up for everyone as are jobs.
Go blow smoke up someone else's ass.
Because I was once poor myself.
Liberals need to learn how to work their way up and stop relying on the government.
but the facts are there is no working your way up anymore. No raises, no companies who pay more than your existing one.
I worry about losing my job now because I doubt the next one will pay so handsomely. I found a great company to work for. The last 5 companies i worked for sucked. But then if you keep bouncing from company to company companies won’t hire you. It’s like you are tied down because you don’t want to have to explain the short stays at companies. It’s not like you can tell them those past companies didn’t pay enough.
Anyways, compared to everyone else at my company, I’m rich. who makes good money at my company? The president, vp, controller, us salespeople and that’s it. Everyone else makes less. All the service engineers and office people will never make what we make.
This woman who quit to go into real estate told me she was making half what I was making. I couldn’t believe it because she did so much. But instead of paying her more they hired two women who probably make $40k each. So instead of paying her $70 or $80k they decided to hire two people to do her job. Makes sense if you’re a corporation. Point is working Your way up sometimes isn’t an option. Corporations just dont value good employees like they used to. They’ll let a good employee go if they ask for more.
By the way, I took this job for $40k and told them I’d want more if I worked out. A year later they gave me a pathetic $5000 raise. Even though I doubled sales. The next year he gave me $5k more. So their great salesperson was only making $50k. Lying story short is the new president gave me basically a $50k raise. He raised my salary to $65k and gave me commission. It’s because before he was named president I told him about how companies lose good employees because they don’t pay what they’re worth. Being a salesperson himself, he actually paid me what I’m worth. And he’s a democrat by the way.
One engineer when I complained about my raise said, “you make your deal on the way in here”. Ever hear that saying? It means if they got you to start for $40k they will never pay you $100k no matter how good you do. They figure they’ll still keep all the accounts you found and just hire an account manager for $40k to hopefully do what you did.
Anyways, I feel I got lucky. If not for my liberal boss I’d probably be making $65k right now.
And remember I have no mortgage, no kids, no student loans. You might make more than me but you probably spend more than me. I’m saving like if republicans win they will cut social security 20%. Republicans have been telling me for 30 years not to count on my social security being there. I don’t think they were lying about their goal to kill That program
What a load of horse shit.
Just talked to a guy the other day who started working at Sonic at 16 and he now manages six Sonics is just shy of six figures today.
It's called working your way up.
You can also become a plumper's assistant and work your way up,machinist,electrician and many other jobs that can lead to owning your own business.
But if you dont want to work hard thats on you.
Are you saying they're incapable of working their way up?
If thats the case they're right where they need to be.