New Benghazi E-mails Link White House to Doctoring of Talking Points

[paperview]

do you know what this is a map of? You know what those bubbles represent?

 

[paperview]

BTW, that map is from headline news the same day that email was sent.

Sep 14, 2012 10:11AM ET / Global <-------

A Map of Muslim Protests Around the World

Reuters / Google Maps

If you can't keep track of all the Muslim protests erupting across the globe, you're not alone. The uproar over a 14-minute anti-Islam YouTube video has sparked furious protests from Somalia to Egypt to Sudan to Tunisia to Libya to Bangladesh to Indonesia to Pakistan. With new reports of protests surfacing every minute, we've compiled the latest reported incidents into this handy interactive Google Map. Click the locations and embedded links for more details about each incident."

A Map of Muslim Protests Around the World - The Wire

 

[paperview]

Click a bubble, any bubble - on the interactive map from that day.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msi...l=26.273714,58.798828&spn=42.034439,53.613281
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msi...l=26.273714,58.798828&spn=42.034439,53.613281
Here, I'll get you started:

 

[mudwhistle]

The only dots I see are the ones on the map that show that there were riots over this video in 30 countries across the middle east.

Hey mo fucking ron JoeB, thats Obama's "Arab Spring", nothing to do with a video in California!
Joe, you're such a loser, you're pathetic!

Could you be more wrong?

Middle East - and the world.

A big hoo-ha is being made about that line: "to underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure of policy."

What was happening THE DAY that email was sent?

Oh, that's right -- protests about a video all over the freakin world.


"A report (PDF) from the Congressional Research Service published days after the attacks in Benghazi details how "Muslims in a number of countries have responded in recent days with anger at the United States that many observers describe as a response to a privately produced film circulating on the Internet that denigrates Islam and the prophet Mohammed."

According to the report, as of September 14, 2012, when Rhodes' email was sent, such protests - often violent and focused on U.S. diplomatic facilities -- had occurred in Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Sudan, Egypt, Lebanon, Turkey, Yemen, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, Iran, Bangladesh, and Malaysia."


Remember? Muslim Protests Spread Around the Globe - In Focus - The Atlantic

^ Sept. 14, 2012 Article ^

Or as many have said, "What Video??"

Most of the protesters in Cairo never saw the thing.

They were protesting American colonialism on the 11th anniversary of 911, considered to be one of the greatest victories in the Muslim world in the last 100 years.

 

[paperview]

Bubble dwellers seem to think the September 14, 2012 email was all about their pet toy, named Ben.

Let's see, what again was happening around the world that day?


Jerusalem


"Hundreds hurl stones at officers in Jerusalem after Friday prayers at al-Aqsa Mosque while protesters rallied against anti-Islam film," reports Ynet News.


Bangladesh


"About 1,000 Bangladeshi Islamists tried to march on the U.S. embassy in Dhaka on Thursday to protest against a U.S. film that is said to insult the Prophet Mohammad but security forces stopped them r...


Sanaa, Yemen


"In Sanaa, Yemen, the U.S. Embassy was overrun Thursday by protesters who stormed a wall, set fire to a building inside the compound, broke windows and carried away office supplies and other souvenirs...


Cairo, Egypt


"In Cairo, clouds of tear gas floated through the fortified area around the U.S. Embassy as security forces clashed with protesters for the third straight day," reports The Washington Post.


Tripoli, Libya


"The US dispatched an elite group of Marines to Tripoli on Wednesday after the mob attack that killed the US ambassador and three other Americans," reports the AP. "Officials were investigating whethe...


Gaza Strip


"Palestinians on Friday protested an anti-Muslim film, with thousands gathering in the Gaza Strip and hundreds in Jerusalem where there were clashes with Israeli police," reports Now Lebanon.


Jakarta, Indonesia


"In Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, about 200 protesters in Jakarta chanted slogans and held up signs in a largely peaceful protest outside the heavily guarded U.S. Embassy," repor...


Khartoum, Sudan


"Britain's Foreign Office says police in Sudan are confronting a protest outside the British embassy in Khartoum," reports the AP. Additionally, Reuters reports "Protesters pull down emblem at German...


Kashmir


"Thousands of angry Kashmiri Muslims protested Friday against an anti-Islam film, burning U.S. flags and calling President Barack Obama a 'terrorist,' while the top government cleric here reportedly d...


Tripoli, Lebanon


"Hundreds of protesters set alight a Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant in the northern Lebanese city of Tripoli on Friday, witnesses said, chanting against the pope's visit to Lebanon and shouting ant...


Benghazi, Libya


"Ansar al Sharia supporters protesting in front of Tibesty Hotel in Benghazi carrying black flags," reports Al Jazeera via Twitter. "Maximum 50 pple."


Tehran, Iran


"In Tehran, students gathered Thursday outside the Swiss Embassy, which represents U.S. interests in Iran, to protest the video," The Wall Street Journal reports. "No violence was reported."


Baghdad, Iraq


"In Iraq, reaction to the video clip has been limited to followers of Shiite groups linked to militias and neighboring Iran," reports The Wall Street Journal. "Several hundred followers of anti-Americ...


Islamabad, Pakistan


"The protesters in Islamabad said that the film should be banned across the world and the filmmakers should be severely punished," reports Pakistan's The Express Tribune. "They also demanded that the ...


Karachi, Pakistan


"JI Chief Munawar Hassan, addressing a protest rally in the Nazimabad area of Karachi, demanded that the US government ban the movie and also demanded the Interior ministry of Pakistan lodge a protest...


Lahore, Pakistan


"The rally in Lahore was organised by Tehreek-e-Hurmat-e-Rasool which was taken out from Green Chowk to Sohrab Khan, while the one in Multan was organised by Jamiat Talba Arbia and Shehri Mahaz. Prote...


Jalalabad, Afghanistan


"Hundreds of Afghans &#8211; some shouting 'Death to America' &#8211; have held a protest against an anti-Islam film in the eastern city of Jalalabad," reports the AP.


Mogadishu, Somalia


"Thousands of Somali protesters have taken to the streets of capital Mogadishu to express their anger over the anti-Islam movie produced by an Israeli-American in the United States," reports Iran's Pr...


Tunisia


Protesters in Tunisia have set fire to an American school in the capital Tunis, according to Reuters. The New York Post reports that "Anti-American rioting spread yesterday to Tunisia, where police us...


Kouba, Algeria


"In Algeria, APS journalist witnessed about 60 people demonstrated peacefully on Friday in the town of Kouba to denounce the film," reports the Algerian Press Service. "Gathered after Friday prayers, ...


London, UK


"About 200 protesters are burning USA and Israeli flags outside the US embassy in London," Al Jazeera reports.


Kuwait City, Kuwait


"About 500 demonstrators gathered yesterday near the US embassy in Kuwait waving a black Al-Qaeda flag in protest of a film mocking Islam," reports AFP. "President Barack 'Obama, we are all Osama,' th...


Kuwait City, Kuwait


"About 500 demonstrators gathered yesterday near the US embassy in Kuwait waving a black Al-Qaeda flag in protest of a film mocking Islam," reports AFP. "President Barack 'Obama, we are all Osama,' th...


Chennai, India


"Protesters in southern India have been arrested for throwing rocks at the U.S. Consulate in Chennai, the city police commissioner said," reports CNN. "As many as 200 protesters were demonstrating in ...


Amsterdam


"The American consulate on the Museumplein in Amsterdam is to close earlier than usual on Friday because of a planned demonstration by Muslims in the late afternoon," reports DutchNews.nl. "Two school...


Maldives


Protests emerged in the Maldives, according to the BBC, but there are few details on the size of the demonstration.


Sri Lanka


Protests have erupted in eastern Sri Lanka, according to the BBC, but details are thin on the size of the demonstration.


Doha, Qatar


"Hundreds of worshippers marched near the US embassy in Qatar on Friday over the anti-Islam video," reports Al Jazeera. "The protest had been reportedly called for by Doha-based Egyptian Sheikh Yusuf...


Jos, Nigeria


"Nigerian troops fired live rounds on Friday to disperse Muslims protesting in the volatile central city of Jos against an American film about the Prophet Mohammad that has triggered unrest in several...


Sheikh Zuwayed


"Protesters belonging to ultraconservative groups in Sinai have stormed a camp for the UN multinational peacekeepers in the town of Sheikh Zuwayed," reports Al Jazeera. "They brought down the flag and...


Sale, Morocco


"Hundreds of Salafists burned US flags in Morocco after Friday prayers at a mosque in a poor neighbourhood of Sale, twin town to the Moroccan capital Rabat," reports Al Jazeera. "Around 200 of the har...


Casablanca, Morocco


"Between 300 and 400 Muslim activists had gathered outside the US consulate in Morocco's largest city Casablanca on Wednesday, amid a heavy police presence, protesting against the film and shouting an...


Damascus, Syria


"Sana, Syria's state news agency, said hundreds of pro-government supporters protested outside the US embassy in Damascus today," reports The Guardian. "Protesters held images of beleaguered president...


Amman, Jordan


"Jordanian protesters burn a US flag in front of the Kurdi Mosque near the USA embassy in Amman," reports the AP. Iran's Press TV reports that more than 2,000 Jordanians took to the streets to protest...


Nouakchott, Mauritania


"Mauritanian youths also went out in a demonstration that covered the streets of Nouakchott condemning the offensive film," reports Link TV. "Protestors gathered in front of the American embassy, call...


Kuala Lumpur, Malaysi


Muslims held demonstrations across Malaysia on Friday, calling for the United States to prevent distribution of an anti-Islam film they said was part of a plot by 'Christian extremists,'" reports Ahra...


Batu Caves, Malaysia


"A crowd ... held a demonstration at the Batu Caves, a popular tourist spot outside the capital," reports Ahram Online.


Ipoh, Malaysia


"Malaysian media reported a... protest in the northern city of Ipoh," reports Ahram Online.


Hyderabad, India


"A peaceful protest was held here Friday against a blasphemous anti-Islam American movie," reports News Track India. "Protestors set afire an effigy symbolising the US in the old city of Hyderabad. Po...


Diraz, Bahrain


"More than 2,000 protesters chanted against the film and burned American and Israeli flags after Friday prayers in Diraz, outside the capital, Manama. Security forces were absent," reports the AP. "...


Istanbul, Turkey


"Hundreds of people gathered in Istanbul's Beyazit Square to protest the prophet film," reports the AP. "The protest was organized by Turkey's main Islamist political party, Saadet."


Nablus, West Bank


"In the city of Nablus, about 200 people demonstrated against the film as Muslim clerics throughout the territory preached against it in Friday sermons," reports the AP.


Basrah, Iraq


In the southern city of Basra, about 1,000 took to the streets and burned the American and Israeli flags. One banner said: 'Freedom doesn't mean offending two billion Muslims,'" reports the AP.


Mombasa, Kenya


"A group of Kenyan muslims burn[ed] the US flag in protest over the anti-Muslim film that has spawned mob violence against American embassies across the Mideast, following afternoon prayers outside th...


Srinagar, India


"A Kashmiri Muslim with his face covered burn[ed] a mock American flag as others shout slogans during a protest Friday in Srinagar, India," reports the AP.


Kut, Iraq


"Iraqi supporters of Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr's movement, burn[ed] the Israeli and the US flags during a protest denouncing a film deemed offensive to Islam, on September 13, 2012 in the central ...


Tel Aviv, Israel


"Arab-Israeli Muslim men protest against a film mocking Islam, in front of the U.S. embassy in the Mediterranean coastal city of Tel Aviv, on September 13, 2012," reports AFP.


Nangarhar Province, Afghanistan


"Afghans burn the U.S. flag in the Ghanikhel district of Nangarhar province, east of Kabul, Afghanistan, on September 14, 2012, during a protest against an anti-Islam film," reports the AP.


Sidon, Lebanon


The AP captured photographs of an anti-film protest in the Palestinian refugee camp of Ain el-Hilweh near Sidon, Lebanon, here.


Sydney, Australia


"Six men have been charged following the protests in which around 200 Muslims marched from Sydney's Town Hall to Martin Place yesterday afternoon before confronting police outside the US consulate," r...


Sokoto, Nigeria


"In the far northern city of Sokoto, on the threshold of the Sahara desert, thousands of people marched peacefully carrying placards reading 'Down with America' and 'We love our Prophet', under a ligh...


Kabul, Afghanistan


"Hundreds of students have poured into the streets of Kabul shouting anti-US slogans to protest against a film mocking Islam that has sparked deadly riots in the Middle East and North Africa, police s...


Camp Bastion, Afghanistan


"Afghan insurgents ... staged a daring, well-planned raid on Camp Bastion, the military base where Britain's Prince Harry is deployed," reports CNN. "The Taliban said it carried out the strike, callin...


Antwerpen, Belgium


"200 Muslim protesters gathered in the city center of Antwerp on Sunday, protesting against the US-made film 'The Innocence of Muslims,'" reports Digital Journal.


Paris, France


"Hundreds of people protested on Saturday outside the U.S. Embassy in Paris, denouncing a film produced in the United States that insults the Prophet Muhammad," reports the AP. "Television images show...

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[TemplarKormac]

PPV...

This is almost sad to watch.

 

[natstew]

And now we have a Reagan reference! Is there no liberal in this thread willing to take on the facts of the matter? We're taking strolls down memory lane, when we should be firmly rooted at the corner of reality and facts. Besides, the Beirut Barracks Bombing can be countered with the Iranian Hostage Crisis under Carter. He left those poor civilians in that airplane for over 400 days! It took the mere election of Ronald Reagan to get them freed. How soon do we all forget.

Um, I realize you are too young to remember that... but an AIRPLANE?

I think your history is a little faulty, sonny boy.

And, no, the Iranians did not free the hostages because of Reagan.

The Iranians took hostages because we admitted the Shah into our country for cancer treatment, and the Iranians were legitimattly worried that we were planning another coup to put him back in power, just like we had done in 1953.

The main reason why they let them go was because the Shah had died, and we had promised to return assets that had been frozen. (Incidently, we have not yet returned those assets.)

There you go again Joe. We didn't admit the Shah into the United States, Jimmy Carter blocked him from entering the United States. Jimmy Carter supported the uprising in Iran until they took Americans hostage, then he was confused that they would do that after he voiced his support. Just like Obama, Carter's foreign policy was, "If we just love them enough, they'll love us back."

Joe, I'm 70 and have been a News Hawk since grade school, take your Obama propaganda elsewhere, it doesn't work on informed people, it only works on "low information" voters. (Democrat base)

 

[TemplarKormac]

LOL.

Paperview. You're willing to contradict the CIA? You think you have superior intelligence? Funny, even the CIA station chief said there was no escalation in hostilities due to the video that night. So tell me, what makes you think you are smarter than they?

 

[boedicca]

The big question has been: Where Was Obama.

We know from Tommy "Dude" Vietor that Obama was not in the Situation Room (which is why repeated requests for photos have been denied).

Well...it looks like The Won was rehearsing for the debates.

https://explore.data.gov/dataset/3-meet-with-Potus-NO-TIME-LISTED-9-11-12/hg5b-q3e9

Breaking: Visitor Logs Show Obama at ?Debate Prep? While Americans Died in Benghazi ? Too Busy to Make it to Situation Room | The Gateway Pundit

 

[boedicca]

I bet PPV actually believed Carney when he said the Benghazi email wasn't about Benghazi.

 

[paperview]

LOL.

Paperview. You're willing to contradict the CIA? You think you have superior intelligence? Funny, even the CIA station chief said there was no escalation in hostilities due to the video that night. So tell me, what makes you think you are smarter than they?

You apparently have trouble reading. Pay attention to the first and second line here.

I've put it in red so it might work it's way into your brain a little bit:

BTW, that map is from headline news the same day that email was sent.

Sep 14, 2012 10:11AM ET / Global <-------

A Map of Muslim Protests Around the World

Reuters / Google Maps

If you can't keep track of all the Muslim protests erupting across the globe, you're not alone. The uproar over a 14-minute anti-Islam YouTube video has sparked furious protests from Somalia to Egypt to Sudan to Tunisia to Libya to Bangladesh to Indonesia to Pakistan. With new reports of protests surfacing every minute, we've compiled the latest reported incidents into this handy interactive Google Map. Click the locations and embedded links for more details about each incident."

A Map of Muslim Protests Around the World - The Wire

 

[Rozman]

Maybe 7,000 people saw the video or a trailer for this video prior to Sept.11 2012...

So are we to believe that Muslims freaked out over something seen by 7,000 people?

 

[Rozman]

I don't know which is worse... a terrorist attack or a few thousand
people can get these crazy Muslim bastards whipped up into such a frenzy...

 

[paperview]

Maybe 7,000 people saw the video or a trailer for this video prior to Sept.11 2012...

So are we to believe that Muslims freaked out over something seen by 7,000 people?

It was being broadcast on T.V's in the Middle East. do you recall what was happening earlier in the day in Egypt? The whole damn world was watching that.

To remind again:

"Then, on Sept. 8, a popular Islamist preacher lit the fuse by screening a clip of the video on the ultraconservative Egyptian satellite channel El Nas. American diplomats in Cairo raised the alarm in Washington about a growing backlash, including calls for a protest outside their embassy."

You can't go by just "youtube views" -- they were showing clips of it on Middle Eastern TV's.

Also, too:

"But Islamists in Benghazi were watching. Egyptian satellite networks like El Nas and El Rahma were widely available in Benghazi.

&#8220;It is Friday morning viewing,&#8221; popular on the day of prayer, said one young Benghazi Islamist who turned up at the compound during the attack, speaking on the condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

By Sept. 9, a popular eastern Libyan Facebook page had denounced the film. On the morning of Sept. 11, even some secular political activists were posting calls online for a protest that Friday, three days away.

Hussein Abu Hamida, the acting chief of Benghazi&#8217;s informal police force, saw the growing furor and feared new violence against Western interests." -From the NYT account

Also, the Grand Mafti had issued calls days before for protests about the film.

 

[paperview]

"This movie must be banned immediately and an apology should be made ... This is a disgrace," said 19-year-old, Ismail Mahmoud, a member of the so-called "ultras" soccer supporters who played a big role in the uprising that brought down Hosni Mubarak last year. " LINK

I remember the week of 9/11/12. Where were you?

 

[natstew]

I'm watching Obama's network channel, NBC, and so far the topics of discussion are

1. The White House Correspondence Dinner
2. How Funny Obama was at the dinner
3. Donald Sterling
4. Racism
5. The botched execution of two murderers
6. Racism
7. Minimum-wage


I'm still waiting to see if they even mention the Benghazi emails showing that the White House was involved.

Obviously it's not important to the regime's state run media.

BS - Even in the few minutes I scanned the news this week I saw MSNBC Morning Joe had a segment on the Benghazi emails.

Well, well, well, finally, after the latest e-mail comes out connecting the Regime directly to the video talking points, Joe Scarborough, who BTW was once a Republican Congressman and still is a Republican and claims to be a 'middle of the road guy' accuses some Left Wing media freaks of being part of the cover-up and you use it for some kind of denial that the Left Wing media outlets are ignoring the truth about Benghazzi?

Shut up fool!!

 

[TemplarKormac]

And now we have a Reagan reference! Is there no liberal in this thread willing to take on the facts of the matter? We're taking strolls down memory lane, when we should be firmly rooted at the corner of reality and facts. Besides, the Beirut Barracks Bombing can be countered with the Iranian Hostage Crisis under Carter. He left those poor civilians in that airplane for over 400 days! It took the mere election of Ronald Reagan to get them freed. How soon do we all forget.

Um, I realize you are too young to remember that... but an AIRPLANE?

I think your history is a little faulty, sonny boy.

And, no, the Iranians did not free the hostages because of Reagan.

The Iranians took hostages because we admitted the Shah into our country for cancer treatment, and the Iranians were legitimattly worried that we were planning another coup to put him back in power, just like we had done in 1953.

The main reason why they let them go was because the Shah had died, and we had promised to return assets that had been frozen. (Incidently, we have not yet returned those assets.)

There you go again Joe. We didn't admit the Shah into the United States, Jimmy Carter blocked him from entering the United States. Jimmy Carter supported the uprising in Iran until they took Americans hostage, then he was confused that they would do that after he voiced his support. Just like Obama, Carter's foreign policy was, "If we just love them enough, they'll love us back."

Joe, I'm 70 and have been a News Hawk since grade school, take your Obama propaganda elsewhere, it doesn't work on informed people, it only works on "low information" voters. (Democrat base)

Carter did offer sanctuary to the Shah, and he was admitted to the US. The US Embassy in Tehran opposed it, but Carter let him in anyway. He was pressured by Henry Kissinger, Nelson Rockefeller and others supporting the Shah at the time to do so. As such, Iranian revolutionaries used this failure in Carter's judgement to justify that the Shah was nothing more than an American puppet. This move angered many people in Iran. It ultimately led to the storming of the embassy there by students loyal to the Ayatollah.

What Joe doesn't get though is that this was a colossal failure in foreign policy for the Carter Administration, and is directly responsible for the hostage crisis. It wasn't until 1981 when the US and Iran signed the Algiers Accords, that the Khomeini supporters agreed to free the hostages. The concerns the Iranians had were illegitimate, though, as evidenced by the signing of these accords. These "concerns" Joe mentions didn't justify taking 52 people hostage.

Carter fucked this one up, and Joe knows it.

 

[paperview]

I don't know which is worse... a terrorist attack or a few thousand
people can get these crazy Muslim bastards whipped up into such a frenzy...

Some of those religious freaks go nuts after a one-dimensional cartoon is shown depicting their Prophet. Many of these are unstable, uneducated fanatics.

I don't know why people find it so amazing it could be both -- the video and some of the factions in that crowd that preplanned it.

Things can happen concurrently when angry fucked up groups assemble.

To the devout, hearing word their Prophet was depicted as a pig fucker and in the most demeaning way possible certainly will only add to the rage...

This, my post from October of 2012 ::::

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There were people there in Benghazi who claimed the video was why they were angry. That was from initial eye-witness accounts. Now we read the Al-Sharia group was gathering restless Muslims from nearby neighborhoods to chant against the film.

"The neighbors all described the militants setting up checkpoints around the compound at about 8 p.m. The State Department&#8217;s timeline says the attack itself began at around 9:40 p.m.

Khaled al-Haddar, a lawyer who passed by the scene as he headed to his nearby home, said he saw the fighters gathering a few youths from among passers-by and urged them to chant against the film."

Libyan witnesses recount organized Benghazi attack - Washington Times
(the conservative Moonie Times, no less)

To repeat: There were people there in Benghazi who claimed the video was why they were angry - join that up with the Ansar al-Sharia (who first claimed, then denied responsibility) crowd - who no doubt were mightily pissed and ready to do us harm to begin with,

and add the gasoline of that video to their whacked out religious sensibilities, and you get KA-BOOM!

As I said, it's not like the "reasons" can't happen concurrently, and the Intel was, as officials tell us, still fluid.

But still there are folks who are absolutely convinced...the video had nothing - nothing! to do with it.

===========

...and it most certainly played a part in what was happening globally that week, with some 54 countries / locales showing up at our embassies and in the streets to protest...that video, and what "these protests" in that email refers to.

Only someone extremely myopic could not see that.

 

[HenryBHough]

In November there's only one take-away from Benghazi that's really important:

Americans died serving our country and the best-remembered response from the regime?:

"What difference does it make."

True, out of context but as the liberal playbook will tell you, it's geting 'em to remember a catch-phrase that's important.

 

[mudwhistle]

In November there's only one take-away from Benghazi that's really important:

Americans died serving our country and the best-remembered response from the regime?:

"What difference does it make."

True, out of context but as the liberal playbook will tell you, it's geting 'em to remember a catch-phrase that's important.

Now it's, "Dude,That was like Two YEARS ago".

If time is such a factor, why do they keep bringing up slavery?

Dude, that was like over 160 years ago!!!!! Jeezus!!!!