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New rule for Obamacare, Now 2 year grace period and new breaks for Unions

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The Obama administration will let people with health insurance plans that don't comply with Affordable Care Act standards keep them through October 2017 if their states allow it, officials said Wednesday in announcing a series of final Obamacare rules.

And the rules gave a financial break to the types of self-insured health plans run by many unions, excluding them for two years from the $63-per-capita "reinsurance contribution" assessed for each enrollee.

Feds give 2-year grace period for non-Obamacare plans


Instead of a year, its now been moved to 2 years extension( convenient it's after Obama leaves office) and Unions get another exclusion.
 
CaféAuLait;8727344 said:
The Obama administration will let people with health insurance plans that don't comply with Affordable Care Act standards keep them through October 2017 if their states allow it, officials said Wednesday in announcing a series of final Obamacare rules.

And the rules gave a financial break to the types of self-insured health plans run by many unions, excluding them for two years from the $63-per-capita "reinsurance contribution" assessed for each enrollee.

Feds give 2-year grace period for non-Obamacare plans


Instead of a year, its now been moved to 2 years extension( convenient it's after Obama leaves office) and Unions get another exclusion.

The Obama administration will let people with health insurance plans that don't comply with Affordable Care Act standards keep them through October 2017

so if your "insurance plan" is to pay as you go

are you off the hook as well
 
CaféAuLait;8727344 said:
The Obama administration will let people with health insurance plans that don't comply with Affordable Care Act standards keep them through October 2017 if their states allow it, officials said Wednesday in announcing a series of final Obamacare rules.

And the rules gave a financial break to the types of self-insured health plans run by many unions, excluding them for two years from the $63-per-capita "reinsurance contribution" assessed for each enrollee.

Feds give 2-year grace period for non-Obamacare plans


Instead of a year, its now been moved to 2 years extension( convenient it's after Obama leaves office) and Unions get another exclusion.

The Obama administration will let people with health insurance plans that don't comply with Affordable Care Act standards keep them through October 2017

so if your "insurance plan" is to pay as you go

are you off the hook as well

A one year grace plan was already announced a few months back when everyone started to lose their insurance. Not they have extended it to two years and added new rules for Unions. It was a political disaster as it was announced over 4 million were losing plans Obama said they could keep. The only thing I see here is assuring no more political embarrassment takes place right before elections given the extension to October of 2017.

If Obama and those embracing this law were confident about it, they would not be playing with timelines that are an obvious benefit to political issues. Not to mention the new rules which benefit unions.

I'm not off the hook for anything, not sure what you mean?
 
CaféAuLait;8727453 said:
CaféAuLait;8727344 said:
Feds give 2-year grace period for non-Obamacare plans


Instead of a year, its now been moved to 2 years extension( convenient it's after Obama leaves office) and Unions get another exclusion.

The Obama administration will let people with health insurance plans that don't comply with Affordable Care Act standards keep them through October 2017

so if your "insurance plan" is to pay as you go

are you off the hook as well

A one year grace plan was already announced a few months back when everyone started to lose their insurance. Not they have extended it to two years and added new rules for Unions. It was a political disaster as it was announced over 4 million were losing plans Obama said they could keep. The only thing I see here is assuring no more political embarrassment takes place right before elections given the extension to October of 2017.

If Obama and those embracing this law were confident about it, they would not be playing with timelines that are an obvious benefit to political issues. Not to mention the new rules which benefit unions.

I'm not off the hook for anything, not sure what you mean?

those that opted out of buying insurance and pay for medical services

on their own
 
CaféAuLait;8727453 said:
The Obama administration will let people with health insurance plans that don't comply with Affordable Care Act standards keep them through October 2017

so if your "insurance plan" is to pay as you go

are you off the hook as well

A one year grace plan was already announced a few months back when everyone started to lose their insurance. Now they have extended it to two years and added new rules for Unions. It was a political disaster as it was announced over 4 million were losing plans Obama said they could keep. The only thing I see here is assuring no more political embarrassment takes place right before elections given the extension to October of 2017.

If Obama and those embracing this law were confident about it, they would not be playing with timelines that are an obvious benefit to political issues. Not to mention the new rules which benefit unions.

I'm not off the hook for anything, not sure what you mean?

those that opted out of buying insurance and pay for medical services

on their own

That is not what this is. After the debacle where 4 million plus lost their plans as Obamacare was implemented late last year (after Obama promised they could keep them), his administration announced a one year grace period to sign up for exchanges so there would not be more issues of people announcing they lost their insurance.

That one year extension has now been extended to a 2 year extension and they now avoid a new round of health policy cancellations set to hit shortly before the November elections. Maybe im misunderstanding you?
 
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CaféAuLait;8727557 said:
CaféAuLait;8727453 said:
A one year grace plan was already announced a few months back when everyone started to lose their insurance. Now they have extended it to two years and added new rules for Unions. It was a political disaster as it was announced over 4 million were losing plans Obama said they could keep. The only thing I see here is assuring no more political embarrassment takes place right before elections given the extension to October of 2017.

If Obama and those embracing this law were confident about it, they would not be playing with timelines that are an obvious benefit to political issues. Not to mention the new rules which benefit unions.

I'm not off the hook for anything, not sure what you mean?

those that opted out of buying insurance and pay for medical services

on their own

That is not what this is. After the debacle where 4 million plus lost their plans as Obamacare was implemented late last year (after Obama promised they could keep them), his administration announced a one year grace period to sign up for exchanges so there would not be more issues of people announcing they lost their insurance.

That one year extension has now been extended to a 2 year extension and they now avoid a new round of health policy cancellations set to hit shortly before the November elections. Maybe im misunderstanding you?

yes i understand the arbitrary extensions and deadline issues seemingly passed

without going through congress

it seems now the only ones not given an extension are those who didnt have insurance

and are not going to get insurance either by choice or by budget

wonder if by next tax season that the administration

will have recognized that many many folks will not be happy

getting 1 percent of their income deducted off of their tax returns
 
This is all disaster mitigation and given the flop sweat and stonewalling oozing out of the White House the Ds are screwing up the mitigation.
 
CaféAuLait;8727344 said:
The Obama administration will let people with health insurance plans that don't comply with Affordable Care Act standards keep them through October 2017 if their states allow it, officials said Wednesday in announcing a series of final Obamacare rules.

And the rules gave a financial break to the types of self-insured health plans run by many unions, excluding them for two years from the $63-per-capita "reinsurance contribution" assessed for each enrollee.

Feds give 2-year grace period for non-Obamacare plans


Instead of a year, its now been moved to 2 years extension( convenient it's after Obama leaves office) and Unions get another exclusion.


I assume this was another one of his "executive" orders? It looks like our health care dictator and chief has usurped his constitutional authority AGAIN.

The unions have donated millions to democrat candidates--and they probably threatened to pull the plug if they didn't get a now "indefinite" pardon on meeting the expensive Obamacare mandates. Everyone else has too though. But it appears that the Unions aren't really happy about Obamacare either.

Months after the president’s reelection, a variety of unions are publicly balking at how the administration plans to implement the landmark law. They warn that unless there are changes, the results could be catastrophic.

The United Food and Commercial Workers International Union (UFCW) — a 1.3 million-member labor group that twice endorsed Obama for president — is very worried about how the reform law will affect its members’ healthcare plans.

Last month, the president of the United Union of Roofers, Waterproofers and Allied Workers released a statement calling “for repeal or complete reform of the Affordable Care Act.”

UNITE HERE, a prominent hotel workers’ union, and the International Brotherhood of Teamsters are also pushing for changes.

In a new op-ed published in The Hill, UFCW President Joe Hansen homed in on the president’s speech at the 2009 AFL-CIO convention. Obama at the time said union members could keep their insurance under the law, but Hansen writes “that the president’s statement to labor in 2009 is simply not true for millions of workers.”
More Labor Unions Bail on ObamaCare - Katie Pavlich

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The so called Implementation of Obamacare has got to be the biggest joke of the past 30 years maybe more. I can't recall a sitting President and his party trying this hard to run away from and delay the Implementation of what not that long ago they were calling a signature achievement.

I've never seen Obama be so transparent regarding his playing politics with peoples lives. He's not even trying to hide the fact that his reasoning is purely political with the upcoming election and not for the people he's supposed to represent.
 
Obamacare is nothing but a clusterfuck of fail.

I wonder how long before the individual mandate is delayed, then scrapped? I mean, we can't have people feel any pain, can we? Not before an election!!! :cuckoo:
 
What about insurance costs that have already risen (ours went up 44% this year) to cover the essential benefits and others? Will those costs revert back down for 2015 and 2016? I'm guessing not. So this was passed (in part) to help control the ridiculous rising of cost of insurance but instead costs skyrocketed worse than before the (un)aca for millions, but somehow that's ok because . . . obama?
 
This is interesting......Odummycare "tax" reduced to zero......
The House of Representatives passed legislation Wednesday afternoon to make the fine/“tax” for violating Obamacare’s individual mandate $0 for this year, and it did so by the wide margin of 90 votes (250 to 160). That’s 83 more than the 7-vote margin (219 to 212) by which Obamacare passed the House four Marches ago. Moreover, 27 Democrats voted for today’s legislation—27 more than the number of Republicans who voted for Obamacare when it passed.

Bill to Make the Fine $0 for Violating the Individual Mandate Passes by 90 Votes | The Weekly Standard
 
CaféAuLait;8727344 said:
The Obama administration will let people with health insurance plans that don't comply with Affordable Care Act standards keep them through October 2017 if their states allow it, officials said Wednesday in announcing a series of final Obamacare rules.

And the rules gave a financial break to the types of self-insured health plans run by many unions, excluding them for two years from the $63-per-capita "reinsurance contribution" assessed for each enrollee.

Feds give 2-year grace period for non-Obamacare plans


Instead of a year, its now been moved to 2 years extension( convenient it's after Obama leaves office) and Unions get another exclusion.
These are the sub standard junk plans...right???

Now I'm just confused to no end.
 
CaféAuLait;8727344 said:
The Obama administration will let people with health insurance plans that don't comply with Affordable Care Act standards keep them through October 2017 if their states allow it, officials said Wednesday in announcing a series of final Obamacare rules.

And the rules gave a financial break to the types of self-insured health plans run by many unions, excluding them for two years from the $63-per-capita "reinsurance contribution" assessed for each enrollee.

Feds give 2-year grace period for non-Obamacare plans


Instead of a year, its now been moved to 2 years extension( convenient it's after Obama leaves office) and Unions get another exclusion.
These are the sub standard junk plans...right???

Now I'm just confused to no end.
Simple Obama just discovered he is promoting insurance that does not rise to the level of junk. Write this mantra down:
Obamacare is not good enough to be wrong.
Repeat it three times and click your heels. It will make you feel better.
 
CaféAuLait;8727344 said:
The Obama administration will let people with health insurance plans that don't comply with Affordable Care Act standards keep them through October 2017 if their states allow it, officials said Wednesday in announcing a series of final Obamacare rules.

And the rules gave a financial break to the types of self-insured health plans run by many unions, excluding them for two years from the $63-per-capita "reinsurance contribution" assessed for each enrollee.

Feds give 2-year grace period for non-Obamacare plans


Instead of a year, its now been moved to 2 years extension( convenient it's after Obama leaves office) and Unions get another exclusion.
These are the sub standard junk plans...right???

Now I'm just confused to no end.

Indeed!
How long can Obamacare continue the charade?

Once again ( not directed @ you) if people are not in the healthcare industry they haven't a clue!

:eusa_whistle:
 
CaféAuLait;8727344 said:
The Obama administration will let people with health insurance plans that don't comply with Affordable Care Act standards keep them through October 2017 if their states allow it, officials said Wednesday in announcing a series of final Obamacare rules.

And the rules gave a financial break to the types of self-insured health plans run by many unions, excluding them for two years from the $63-per-capita "reinsurance contribution" assessed for each enrollee.

Feds give 2-year grace period for non-Obamacare plans


Instead of a year, its now been moved to 2 years extension( convenient it's after Obama leaves office) and Unions get another exclusion.
These are the sub standard junk plans...right???

Now I'm just confused to no end.


Ha.Ha.--it's worse than that. We know that Obama had to crush the individual marketplace where 6 million "liked" policies to-date were cancelled. The reason for this is he needed to force these people onto the exchanges to help pay for all the new Medicade enrollees and all those that are getting subsidies to obtain insurance.

Now he has given another pardon in this marketplace until 2017 and long after he's out of office. Of course, a few of months ago he gave a year pardon on these policies, because he and democrats were feeling a lot of heat over the "promise if you like your policy you can keep it."

Without these millions of people being forced to enter the Obamacare exchanges--how in the heck does Obamacare even survive for another couple of months? We also know that no entry into these exchanges spells higher premiums next year. These insurers are going to make up their cost someway--and it's going to be through higher premiums.

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