New Trump Indictment Says He Ordered Mar-a-Lago Camera Footage Deleted

[postman]

And you have proof that Trump pays them or organized them?

No you don't.

Actually the allacutions of those proud boys and oath keepers say they were doing it because Trump signaled for them to do it.

Remember, Trump told the Proud Boys, to stand down, and stand by

 

[mudwhistle]

It was Trumps responsibility to separate presidential from personal records before he left office. The second Trump left office, everything not in the personal records/property pile, goes to the National Archives, where Trump could later request (himself or his designee) to sort through them.

So why raid his home?

Trump gave them every opportunity to take that stuff and the folks that saw everything just told him to put it under another lock.

Then the NARA director ran to the FBI and issued a criminal referral.

 

[postman]

So you found proof that this nutter was hired by Trump?

No you don't!

Taranto actually wanted to be caught. It's pretty obvious he was a plant.

Keep dreaming.

The guy was january 6th.

 

[mudwhistle]

When that "clerical error" is in violation of half a dozen federal laws.

They searched Mike Pences house because of "clerical errors". They searched Joe Bidens house because of "clerical errors".

So why not Trump? Go on, give me a good reason why they shouldn't have searched Trumps house?

Bull shit.
They looked at what Pence had and Biden had.
Neither of them had the same authority that Trump had.

And, once again, they had already conducted a search of Trump's home, which they used as probable-cause to issue a criminal referral to the FBI before the raid.

 

[Lesh]

Trump gave them every opportunity to take that stuff and the folks that saw everything just told him to put it under another lock.

False. He fought against returning any of it for years and lied and obstructed justice along the way

 

[j-mac]

He has proud boy’s, oath keepers and three percenters.

Three radicalized, heavily armed and violent groups who self identify as Trump’s militia.

Do you have any real proof that these groups and Trump are aligned? ANY?

My guess is no. So, this is a narrative you're trying to build here, by posing the claim, without any backup, and five posts from now, maybe not even in this thread, it will be repeated as "fact", again without any back up....

 

[postman]

So you found proof that this nutter was hired by Trump?

No you don't!

Taranto actually wanted to be caught. It's pretty obvious he was a plant.

The video was posted with a caption stating, "This is me "stormin' the capitol" lol I'm only sharing this so someone will report me to the feds and we can get this party rolling!"

Many of those who stormed the capitol on January 6th, live streamed their crimes. Which is how the FBI caught many of them.

As Trump said, he loves the poorly educated

And these people stupidly provided the evidence against themselves.

 

[postman]

So why raid his home?

Because asking Trump nicely
Sending Trump letters
Sending Trump subpoenas

None of that worked.

 

[Marener]

Do you have any real proof that these groups and Trump are aligned? ANY?

Yes. It all came out in the sedition trials of their leadership.

 

[mudwhistle]

Keep dreaming.

The guy was january 6th.

Oh, so you're saying that everyone in the Capital on Jan 6th was a bona fide Trump supporter?
Even though the DOJ admitted under oath to congress that there were dozens of feds inserted in that crowd?

Does putting on a MAGA hat make an ANTIFA member automatically a bona fide Trump Supporter as well?
You cannot possibly believe that the CIA would put agents in the crowd on Jan 6th?
Yep, shitforbrains, everything was as it seemed on Jan 6th.
Nothing was going on. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[postman]

Then the NARA director ran to the FBI and issued a criminal referral.

Because Trump committed a crime by retaining NARA records.

 

[postman]

So why raid his home?

Trump gave them every opportunity to take that stuff and the folks that saw everything just told him to put it under another lock.

How did that work out. Trump has the boxes all over mar-a-lago. On a reception hall stage. In bathrooms. None of which were locked, and where guests had access to them.

 

[Marener]

Trump gave them every opportunity to take that stuff and the folks that saw everything just told him to put it under another lock.

This is a lie.

The FBI was forbidden by Trump’s lawyers from looking through any of the document boxes. They say nothing but the outside of those boxes.

Hell, Trump didn’t even let his own lawyers the opportunity to take the stuff.

 

[mudwhistle]

Because asking Trump nicely
Sending Trump letters
Sending Trump subpoenas

None of that worked.

Bull shit!!!

They just wanted to fuck with him.
He kept giving them shit, and they kept wanting even more shit.

Ask yourself what it was that they knew he had that he refused to turn over (and they neglected to take possession of) before they issued that criminal referral.
They had to know what they were looking for, and they had to already have a record of it.

 

[postman]

Bull shit.
They looked at what Pence had and Biden had.
Neither of them had the same authority that Trump had.

The VP has the same access to national security information as the president.

 

[Lesh]

Oh, so you're saying that everyone in the Capital on Jan 6th was a bona fide Trump supporter?

He didn't say that at all. Why would YOU say that?

 

[postman]

Bull shit!!!

They just wanted to fuck with him.
He kept giving them shit, and they kept wanting even more shit.

What you leave out, is that they wanted their shit back

All that shit belonged to the National Archives, and Trump refused to give the shit up.

 

[postman]

They had to know what they were looking for, and they had to already have a record of it.

They didn't know who in the white house had the missing documents. Such as documents removed by the chief of staff, or others to give to the president.
And then never returned to the SCIF, or the agency providing them.

 

[mudwhistle]

How did that work out. Trump has the boxes all over mar-a-lago. On a reception hall stage. In bathrooms.

Says the FBI with their leaks.
What crime is it to leak those details to the media?
Did you know that leaking information obtained in a criminal investigation is a violation of the Espionage Act?

§793. Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information​

(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation, goes upon, enters, flies over, or otherwise obtains information concerning any vessel, aircraft, work of defense, navy yard, naval station, submarine base, fueling station, fort, battery, torpedo station, dockyard, canal, railroad, arsenal, camp, factory, mine, telegraph, telephone, wireless, or signal station, building, office, research laboratory or station or other place connected with the national defense owned or constructed, or in progress of construction by the United States or under the control of the United States, or of any of its officers, departments, or agencies, or within the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States, or any place in which any vessel, aircraft, arms, munitions, or other materials or instruments for use in time of war are being made, prepared, repaired, stored, or are the subject of research or development, under any contract or agreement with the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or with any person on behalf of the United States, or otherwise on behalf of the United States, or any prohibited place so designated by the President by proclamation in time of war or in case of national emergency in which anything for the use of the Army, Navy, or Air Force is being prepared or constructed or stored, information as to which prohibited place the President has determined would be prejudicial to the national defense; or

(b) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, and with like intent or reason to believe, copies, takes, makes, or obtains, or attempts to copy, take, make, or obtain, any sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, document, writing, or note of anything connected with the national defense; or

(c) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or

(d) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—


Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

(g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.

(h)(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States, irrespective of any provision of State law, any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, from any foreign government, or any faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States, as the result of such violation. For the purposes of this subsection, the term "State" includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.

(2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1) of this subsection.

(3) The provisions of subsections (b), (c), and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853(b), (c), and (e)–(p)) shall apply to—

(A) property subject to forfeiture under this subsection;

(B) any seizure or disposition of such property; and

(C) any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property,

1-7.001 - Purpose​

The Department of Justice (DOJ) Confidentiality and Media Contacts Policy (the Policy) applies to all DOJ personnel, including employees, contractors, detailees, and task force partners.


The Policy governs the protection and release of information that DOJ personnel obtain in the course of their work, and it balances four primary interests: (1) an individual’s right to a fair trial or adjudicative proceeding; (2) an individual’s interest in privacy; (3) the government’s ability to administer justice and promote public safety; and (4) the right of the public to have access to information about the Department of Justice.


The Policy provides internal guidance only and does not create any rights enforceable in law or otherwise. DOJ components may promulgate more specific policies, consistent with and subject to this Policy.


[updated April 2018]

LINKS

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter37&edition=prelim

When Does a Leak to the Media Violate the Law?

After Trump’s complaint about “criminal” acts, CRS researchers review past prosecutions.

www.govexec.com

1-7.000 - Confidentiality and Media Contacts Policy

www.justice.gov

 

[postman]

He didn't say that at all. Why would YOU say that?

It's his way of using the extreme being false, to chip away at the remainder.

Like saying since everybody in Germany wasn't "SS" .....