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Here's an interesting turn of events that shoots a big hole in Zimmerman's story.
It's not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording, 2 experts say
Many more details in the story. It's not one, but two experts, working apart, and in different parts of the country, that came to this conclusion.
Holy fucking shit we no longer need witnesses let's just tell them to stay home and hire us some experts.
You have a witness. The woman who was on 911, when the screams for help were heard along with the shot being fired into the boys chest, and recorded on the 911 tape.
What did the percentage of probability come back on Trayvon's voice Mr. Expert Testifier ?
Did they have a sample of his voice, prior to the screams for help? Too bad Treyvor can't give them one. The more significant thing is, two experts hold to a scientific certainty, that it's not Zimmerman's voice.
Exactly. From your link:
The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.
Almost 50% match. Need both voices to do percentage matches.
Did they have a sample of his voice, prior to the screams for help? Too bad Treyvor can't give them one. The more significant thing is, two experts hold to a scientific certainty, that it's not Zimmerman's voice.
Exactly. From your link:
The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.
Almost 50% match. Need both voices to do percentage matches.
The voice that I hear to me isn't recognized as what a black teenage male would sound like. The screams sound like the voice of someone who wasn't a teenager.
You have a witness. The woman who was on 911, when the screams for help were heard along with the shot being fired into the boys chest, and recorded on the 911 tape.
Exactly. From your link:
Almost 50% match. Need both voices to do percentage matches.
The voice that I hear to me isn't recognized as what a black teenage male would sound like. The screams sound like the voice of someone who wasn't a teenager.
Zimmerman has a softer soprano-range toned voice.....screams sound like a softer voice
Did they have a sample of his voice, prior to the screams for help? Too bad Treyvor can't give them one. The more significant thing is, two experts hold to a scientific certainty, that it's not Zimmerman's voice.
Exactly. From your link:
The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.
Almost 50% match. Need both voices to do percentage matches.
The voice that I hear to me isn't recognized as what a black teenage male would sound like. The screams sound like the voice of someone who wasn't a teenager.
Exactly. From your link:
Almost 50% match. Need both voices to do percentage matches.
The voice that I hear to me isn't recognized as what a black teenage male would sound like. The screams sound like the voice of someone who wasn't a teenager.
Without samples from the victim, what value will these reports have?
What did the percentage of probability come back on Trayvon's voice Mr. Expert Testifier ?
Did they have a sample of his voice, prior to the screams for help? Too bad Treyvor can't give them one. The more significant thing is, two experts hold to a scientific certainty, that it's not Zimmerman's voice.
The voice that I hear to me isn't recognized as what a black teenage male would sound like. The screams sound like the voice of someone who wasn't a teenager.
Without samples from the victim, what value will these reports have?
I wasn't trying to identify whos voice it was, what I said was
The voice that I hear to me isn't recognized as what a black teenage male would sound like.
That's not identifying who's yelling. I think most would agree with what I said, at least if they are partial and fair.
Without samples from the victim, what value will these reports have?
I wasn't trying to identify whos voice it was, what I said was
The voice that I hear to me isn't recognized as what a black teenage male would sound like.
That's not identifying who's yelling. I think most would agree with what I said, at least if they are partial and fair.
My point is that without both of the voices, this may not BE evidence; it may help the SP, but what other use does it have? You don't hear a black teenage male, someone else might, but without the victim's voice to compare it to, the voice may have been in the area, not connected with the shooting.
the voice may have been in the area, not connected with the shooting.
Here's an interesting turn of events that shoots a big hole in Zimmerman's story.
It's not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording, 2 experts say
As the Trayvon Martin controversy splinters into a debate about self-defense, a central question remains: Who was heard crying for help on a 911 call in the moments before the teen was shot?
A leading expert in the field of forensic voice identification sought to answer that question by analyzing the recordings for the Orlando Sentinel.
His result: It was not George Zimmerman who called for help.
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Many more details in the story. It's not one, but two experts, working apart, and in different parts of the country, that came to this conclusion.
Thing about the yelling If it is Trayvon yelling why isnt he yelling he's going to shoot me? He has a gun. why just yell help, it's not like Zimmerman told him to shut up why not yell he's got a gun he's going to shoot me?What did the percentage of probability come back on Trayvon's voice Mr. Expert Testifier ?
Did they have a sample of his voice, prior to the screams for help? Too bad Treyvor can't give them one. The more significant thing is, two experts hold to a scientific certainty, that it's not Zimmerman's voice.
sure Trayvon can give his voice. Most kids have a voice mail on their cell phones.
The voice that I hear to me isn't recognized as what a black teenage male would sound like. The screams sound like the voice of someone who wasn't a teenager.
Zimmerman has a softer soprano-range toned voice.....screams sound like a softer voice
The woman pisses me off but if you can stand to listen to her this is the video I was talking about.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj4RHJ0taoc]Trayvon Martin 911 Tape Screaming "Help" - YouTube[/ame]
I wasn't trying to identify whos voice it was, what I said was
The voice that I hear to me isn't recognized as what a black teenage male would sound like.
That's not identifying who's yelling. I think most would agree with what I said, at least if they are partial and fair.
My point is that without both of the voices, this may not BE evidence; it may help the SP, but what other use does it have? You don't hear a black teenage male, someone else might, but without the victim's voice to compare it to, the voice may have been in the area, not connected with the shooting.
It can be used as evidence, but not used to identify who was yelling.
the voice may have been in the area, not connected with the shooting.
Come on now you don't really believe that?
Zimmerman has a softer soprano-range toned voice.....screams sound like a softer voice
The woman pisses me off but if you can stand to listen to her this is the video I was talking about.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj4RHJ0taoc]Trayvon Martin 911 Tape Screaming "Help" - YouTube[/ame]
Sound too high pitched to be Zimmerman.
My point is that without both of the voices, this may not BE evidence; it may help the SP, but what other use does it have? You don't hear a black teenage male, someone else might, but without the victim's voice to compare it to, the voice may have been in the area, not connected with the shooting.
It can be used as evidence, but not used to identify who was yelling.
the voice may have been in the area, not connected with the shooting.
Come on now you don't really believe that?
IF the killer is charged, and IF, it makes to a jury, it could be argued. I do not see the relevance without a current sample from the victim.
