New York AG: Trump now under criminal investigation

[bripat9643]

That's exactly what trump told the cops to do.

I like to hang stupid dunce Republicans like MeBelle by their own words.

What usually happens is that you hang yourself because you're a dumbass.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump does not have a LLC, fool. There is no Trump LLC. There is a "Trump Organization", and a Trump Group, but there is no Trump LLC.

Please stop talking about things you have no knowledge of. You're embarassing yourself

I don’t really get what their point is here. I don’t know exactly how the Trump Organization is structured.

But being a LLC or any kind of corporation doesn’t shield the people in they corporation from liability if they commit crimes. There seems to be some serious confusion about that point.

There isn’t really a lot of difference between Trump and his companies. He owns them, runs them, he profits from them. He can’t escape criminal prosecution by claiming his company did something and not him.

The main thing a corporation does is separate the owner from the business.

It's not a complete separation. The owners are sill liable for all crimes they commit.

Being incorporated doesn't absolve anyone from any crime they committed, just makes it take longer for the authorities to enforce the law on the criminals in the company.

Owners of stock are not "liable" for any crimes the management of a company commit.

You just proved why no one should pay attention to anything you say.

 

[bripat9643]

Apparently it has moved from civil to criminal.

“We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the Organization is no longer purely civil in nature,” Fabien Levy, New York AG Letitia James’s press secretary, said in an email Tuesday night. “We are now actively investigating the Trump Organization in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA. We have no additional comment.”

Trump Organization Now Under Criminal Investigation, New York Attorney General Says

LOL. This is a joke, and is nothing but more Deep State-DemNazi-Global Fascist Harrassment.

Communist democrats are desperate to stop the rallys.

I do not know any Communist democrats. Where the hell do you live?

All democrats are communists now.

Your orange king is going to jail....does it hurt bad?

We have heard that for almost five years. Let's hope the audits last that long.

That's because Trump blocked access to his tax records the whole time he was in office. He fought all the way to the Supreme Court and lost. Ten years of Trump's tax records were handed over to Cy Vance Jr.

Tick-tock, Donald, tick-tock.

Just t be clear...the IRS had all of his tax records and he was the most scrutinized man in the country yet they found no wrong doing.....but now that Vance has the same returns he will find something.
OK. I will bite.
So the IRS is inept and have not found any reason to indict Trump for tax evasion or tax fraud.......yet they are the ones who continually harrass people for tax money owed.
And you are OK with that?

The law prevents Vance from investigating Trump without some kind of probable cause, and they have none.

 

[bripat9643]

how did he do that? Mueller was out of his control and so were he impeachments. you're seriously confused.

How did he do that? He just refused to cooperate and given he was the chief executive, no one could force him to do so.

Did you not notice all the obstruction of investigations?

What "obstruction," turd?

 

[jc456]

point is still the same.

It’s not. A lawsuit has to specifically name parties. The announcement from the AG office doesn’t.

my point is still the same.

Your point is ignorant. Who runs the Trump Organization?

I have no fking idea. I bet you think it's Trump. hahahahahaahahahahaha

 

[jc456]

Apparently it has moved from civil to criminal.

“We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the Organization is no longer purely civil in nature,” Fabien Levy, New York AG Letitia James’s press secretary, said in an email Tuesday night. “We are now actively investigating the Trump Organization in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA. We have no additional comment.”

Trump Organization Now Under Criminal Investigation, New York Attorney General Says

LOL. This is a joke, and is nothing but more Deep State-DemNazi-Global Fascist Harrassment.

Communist democrats are desperate to stop the rallys.

I do not know any Communist democrats. Where the hell do you live?

All democrats are communists now.

Your orange king is going to jail....does it hurt bad?

We have heard that for almost five years. Let's hope the audits last that long.

That's because Trump blocked access to his tax records the whole time he was in office. He fought all the way to the Supreme Court and lost. Ten years of Trump's tax records were handed over to Cy Vance Jr.

Tick-tock, Donald, tick-tock.

Just t be clear...the IRS had all of his tax records and he was the most scrutinized man in the country yet they found no wrong doing.....but now that Vance has the same returns he will find something.
OK. I will bite.
So the IRS is inept and have not found any reason to indict Trump for tax evasion or tax fraud.......yet they are the ones who continually harrass people for tax money owed.
And you are OK with that?

The law prevents Vance for investigating Trump without some kind of probable cause, and they have none.

EXACTLY no probable cause. probable is a big fking word.

 

[jc456]

Trump does not have a LLC, fool. There is no Trump LLC. There is a "Trump Organization", and a Trump Group, but there is no Trump LLC.

Please stop talking about things you have no knowledge of. You're embarassing yourself

I don’t really get what their point is here. I don’t know exactly how the Trump Organization is structured.

But being a LLC or any kind of corporation doesn’t shield the people in they corporation from liability if they commit crimes. There seems to be some serious confusion about that point.

There isn’t really a lot of difference between Trump and his companies. He owns them, runs them, he profits from them. He can’t escape criminal prosecution by claiming his company did something and not him.

The main thing a corporation does is separate the owner from the business.

It's not a complete separation. The owners are sill liable for all crimes they commit.

Being incorporated doesn't absolve anyone from any crime they committed, just makes it take longer for the authorities to enforce the law on the criminals in the company.

With private companies, if an accounting firm certifies their financial statements, and their tax returns, the IRS doesn’t look too closely at them. Unless a victim of the crime comes forward and complains, i.e. Mary Trump and her brother, there will be no investigation of criminal wrongdoing.

Law-enforcement needs evidence of a crime before they can begin an investigation. You can’t go on broad fishing expeditions against private companies just because you don’t like their ownership or you suspect they may be doing something sketchy.

Private companies are notoriously difficult to prosecute unless someone on the inside comes forward with the information needed to press on with the prosecutions. Michael Cohen is that someone. He has implicated both Trump and the Trump organization in financial wrongdoing.

Allen Weisselberg is now under criminal investigation for his role in Trump’s crimes. So is Gulliani.

Now that Trump is out of the White House, there is no shield against his prosecution. He’s now under criminal investigation in three different states. This will not end well for Trump

And by not incorporating trump didn't separate himself from his company which means the only thing in the way of justice is evidence. As you said. Finding it in a private company isn't as easy as a public one. The private company doesn't have to file disclosure papers with the government for the public to see so they can keep their business dealings more secret.

Once that evidence is found, the owners of the company are screwed if they have been breaking the law. For the reason mostly being, the company and owner are the same. So the owner of a non incorporated company is easier to prosecute once that evidence is found.

It looks like michael Cohen has been giving the authorities that information. Hopefully weisselberg will do the same. We will have to wait to find out what he does.

"the only thing in the way of justice is evidence"

ROFL! Oh yeah, that minor problem!

What a buffoon.

again with the no evidence so investigate to find it. No mention of what they're looking for. just like Mueller. and the impeachment. zip.....

BTW, that is a poster child for harassment.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump does not have a LLC, fool. There is no Trump LLC. There is a "Trump Organization", and a Trump Group, but there is no Trump LLC.

Please stop talking about things you have no knowledge of. You're embarassing yourself

I don’t really get what their point is here. I don’t know exactly how the Trump Organization is structured.

But being a LLC or any kind of corporation doesn’t shield the people in they corporation from liability if they commit crimes. There seems to be some serious confusion about that point.

There isn’t really a lot of difference between Trump and his companies. He owns them, runs them, he profits from them. He can’t escape criminal prosecution by claiming his company did something and not him.

The main thing a corporation does is separate the owner from the business.

It's not a complete separation. The owners are sill liable for all crimes they commit.

Being incorporated doesn't absolve anyone from any crime they committed, just makes it take longer for the authorities to enforce the law on the criminals in the company.

With private companies, if an accounting firm certifies their financial statements, and their tax returns, the IRS doesn’t look too closely at them. Unless a victim of the crime comes forward and complains, i.e. Mary Trump and her brother, there will be no investigation of criminal wrongdoing.

Law-enforcement needs evidence of a crime before they can begin an investigation. You can’t go on broad fishing expeditions against private companies just because you don’t like their ownership or you suspect they may be doing something sketchy.

Private companies are notoriously difficult to prosecute unless someone on the inside comes forward with the information needed to press on with the prosecutions. Michael Cohen is that someone. He has implicated both Trump and the Trump organization in financial wrongdoing.

Allen Weisselberg is now under criminal investigation for his role in Trump’s crimes. So is Gulliani.

Now that Trump is out of the White House, there is no shield against his prosecution. He’s now under criminal investigation in three different states. This will not end well for Trump

And by not incorporating trump didn't separate himself from his company which means the only thing in the way of justice is evidence. As you said. Finding it in a private company isn't as easy as a public one. The private company doesn't have to file disclosure papers with the government for the public to see so they can keep their business dealings more secret.

Once that evidence is found, the owners of the company are screwed if they have been breaking the law. For the reason mostly being, the company and owner are the same. So the owner of a non incorporated company is easier to prosecute once that evidence is found.

It looks like michael Cohen has been giving the authorities that information. Hopefully weisselberg will do the same. We will have to wait to find out what he does.

"the only thing in the way of justice is evidence"

ROFL! Oh yeah, that minor problem!

What a buffoon.

again with the no evidence so investigate to find it. No mention of what they're looking for. just like Mueller. and the impeachment. zip.....

These morons claim to believe in the rule of law even when they announce to the entire world that they intend to ignore the rule of law.

 

[colfax_m]

sure, a subpoena is something a court hands out, a subpoena from congress isn't legal. Trump merely told them to get one from the courts. the rest is history. again, he owed no one an obligation until the law said so.

The courts have recognized the validity of congressional subpoenas for centuries and presidents have almost always complied with them.

The point is that Trump didn’t and therefore it cannot be said that he was investigated.

 

[bripat9643]

sure, a subpoena is something a court hands out, a subpoena from congress isn't legal. Trump merely told them to get one from the courts. the rest is history. again, he owed no one an obligation until the law said so.

The courts have recognized the validity of congressional subpoenas for centuries and presidents have almost always complied with them.

The point is that Trump didn’t and therefore it cannot be said that he was investigated.

Subpoena for what?

 

[colfax_m]

You can't make campaign promises that you are going to prosecute someone and expect any charges to stick.

I guess that explains why Trump never prosecuted anyone he talked about prosecuting.

 

[jc456]

Trump does not have a LLC, fool. There is no Trump LLC. There is a "Trump Organization", and a Trump Group, but there is no Trump LLC.

Please stop talking about things you have no knowledge of. You're embarassing yourself

I don’t really get what their point is here. I don’t know exactly how the Trump Organization is structured.

But being a LLC or any kind of corporation doesn’t shield the people in they corporation from liability if they commit crimes. There seems to be some serious confusion about that point.

There isn’t really a lot of difference between Trump and his companies. He owns them, runs them, he profits from them. He can’t escape criminal prosecution by claiming his company did something and not him.

The main thing a corporation does is separate the owner from the business.

It's not a complete separation. The owners are sill liable for all crimes they commit.

Being incorporated doesn't absolve anyone from any crime they committed, just makes it take longer for the authorities to enforce the law on the criminals in the company.

With private companies, if an accounting firm certifies their financial statements, and their tax returns, the IRS doesn’t look too closely at them. Unless a victim of the crime comes forward and complains, i.e. Mary Trump and her brother, there will be no investigation of criminal wrongdoing.

Law-enforcement needs evidence of a crime before they can begin an investigation. You can’t go on broad fishing expeditions against private companies just because you don’t like their ownership or you suspect they may be doing something sketchy.

Private companies are notoriously difficult to prosecute unless someone on the inside comes forward with the information needed to press on with the prosecutions. Michael Cohen is that someone. He has implicated both Trump and the Trump organization in financial wrongdoing.

Allen Weisselberg is now under criminal investigation for his role in Trump’s crimes. So is Gulliani.

Now that Trump is out of the White House, there is no shield against his prosecution. He’s now under criminal investigation in three different states. This will not end well for Trump

And by not incorporating trump didn't separate himself from his company which means the only thing in the way of justice is evidence. As you said. Finding it in a private company isn't as easy as a public one. The private company doesn't have to file disclosure papers with the government for the public to see so they can keep their business dealings more secret.

Once that evidence is found, the owners of the company are screwed if they have been breaking the law. For the reason mostly being, the company and owner are the same. So the owner of a non incorporated company is easier to prosecute once that evidence is found.

It looks like michael Cohen has been giving the authorities that information. Hopefully weisselberg will do the same. We will have to wait to find out what he does.

"the only thing in the way of justice is evidence"

ROFL! Oh yeah, that minor problem!

What a buffoon.

again with the no evidence so investigate to find it. No mention of what they're looking for. just like Mueller. and the impeachment. zip.....

These morons claim to believe in the rule of law even when they announce to the entire world that they intend to ignore the rule of law.

funny, the campaign has affidavits from individuals who saw fraud during the election and no one calls that evidence and without evidence why do anything and throw shit out of court. And then you get this, no evidence and it's like these fks are horny and beating off about trump with absolutely nothing but harassment. definition of hypocrites.

 

[Dragonlady]

Trump does not have a LLC, fool. There is no Trump LLC. There is a "Trump Organization", and a Trump Group, but there is no Trump LLC.

Please stop talking about things you have no knowledge of. You're embarassing yourself

I don’t really get what their point is here. I don’t know exactly how the Trump Organization is structured.

But being a LLC or any kind of corporation doesn’t shield the people in they corporation from liability if they commit crimes. There seems to be some serious confusion about that point.

There isn’t really a lot of difference between Trump and his companies. He owns them, runs them, he profits from them. He can’t escape criminal prosecution by claiming his company did something and not him.

The main thing a corporation does is separate the owner from the business.

It's not a complete separation. The owners are sill liable for all crimes they commit.

Being incorporated doesn't absolve anyone from any crime they committed, just makes it take longer for the authorities to enforce the law on the criminals in the company.

With private companies, if an accounting firm certifies their financial statements, and their tax returns, the IRS doesn’t look too closely at them. Unless a victim of the crime comes forward and complains, i.e. Mary Trump and her brother, there will be no investigation of criminal wrongdoing.

Law-enforcement needs evidence of a crime before they can begin an investigation. You can’t go on broad fishing expeditions against private companies just because you don’t like their ownership or you suspect they may be doing something sketchy.

Private companies are notoriously difficult to prosecute unless someone on the inside comes forward with the information needed to press on with the prosecutions. Michael Cohen is that someone. He has implicated both Trump and the Trump organization in financial wrongdoing.

Allen Weisselberg is now under criminal investigation for his role in Trump’s crimes. So is Gulliani.

Now that Trump is out of the White House, there is no shield against his prosecution. He’s now under criminal investigation in three different states. This will not end well for Trump

Letitia James is a corrupt douchebag who campaigned on prosecuting Trump. In other words, she announced to the entire world that she intended to abuse the powers of her office.

The case will be thrown out before it ever goes to trial

Damn Skippy she did, and rightfully so. Donald Trump was a corrupt asshole when he was in New York, and nothing has changed. He lied, cheated and stole every dollar he has so it's not surprising he's getting caught now.

Once the bright lights of the Presidency starting shining light into the dark corners of Trump world, he couldn't hide his criminality and his associates kept going to jail.

 

[colfax_m]

Subpoena for what?

Jesus, get your head out of your ass and at least have a little knowledge of what’s going on.

 

[colfax_m]

I have no fking idea. I bet you think it's Trump.

It is Trump. Thanks for admitting your ignorance.

 

[jc456]

sure, a subpoena is something a court hands out, a subpoena from congress isn't legal. Trump merely told them to get one from the courts. the rest is history. again, he owed no one an obligation until the law said so.

The courts have recognized the validity of congressional subpoenas for centuries and presidents have almost always complied with them.

The point is that Trump didn’t and therefore it cannot be said that he was investigated.

no they haven't you are truly lost on our government and law. nope, again, trump merely asked them to get the subpoena from the courts, and the rest is history. Why do you supposed they didn't go just get the court issued subpoena? it's really quite simple, but you are either too lazy or too stupid.

 

[Dragonlady]

point is still the same.

It’s not. A lawsuit has to specifically name parties. The announcement from the AG office doesn’t.

my point is still the same.

Your point is ignorant. Who runs the Trump Organization?

It doesn't matter because the whole thing will get thrown out. You can't make campaign promises that you are going to prosecute someone and expect any charges to stick. That is a clear case of malicious prosecution.

Yes you can, if you have the evidence. The tax returns are the evidence. As are the witnesses.

Lots of people campaigned on putting Al Capone in jail, and cleaning up organized crime. It happens all of the time. This is no different.

 

[jc456]

Subpoena for what?

Jesus, get your head out of your ass and at least have a little knowledge of what’s going on.

it's apparent you don't know. a congressional subpoena has zero legal authority. dude, you can say it isn't for the rest of your life and you'd be wrong that long. Again, legal subpoena's are issued by a court of law.

 

[jc456]

I have no fking idea. I bet you think it's Trump.

It is Trump. Thanks for admitting your ignorance.

nope. prove it is trump.

 

[jc456]

Subpoena for what?

Jesus, get your head out of your ass and at least have a little knowledge of what’s going on.

you should take your own advice.