Next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...

[The Original Tree]

He’s a Russian Oligarch.

Is Russia a Capitalist Nation or a Socialist Nation?

Dumb Ass!

The biggest hypocrite and the most dishonest people I have ever met in my life are all Socialists. Lying comes as easy to them as hypocrisy.

By 2030 the richest 1% will own two-thirds of global wealth.

It's only 2019 and Communism already owns you.


Owners name: Roman Abramovich - Abramovich Net Worth: US$ 11.4 billion -Owners company: Gazprom (sold) - Owners Country: Russia - The luxury motor yacht Eclipse is one of the largest yachts in the world. Abramovich is building a new yacht in Germany.

Who is the owner of the yacht?
The yacht is owned by Russian billionaire Roman Arkadyevich Abramovich. He is one of the richest people in the world. He sold his oil company Sibneft for US$ 13 billion.

Who is the owner of the yacht?
The yacht is owned by Russian billionaire Roman Arkadyevich Abramovich. He is one of the richest people in the world. He sold his oil company Sibneft for US$ 13 billion.

Is Abramovich a socialist or a capitalist?

Russia at this point is a corrupt oligarchy close to dictatorship, and Putin is a scumbag. Is also socialist barely because socialism is democratic at this point-- communism isn't.

Russia at this point is a corrupt oligarchy close to dictatorship, and Putin is a scumbag. Is also socialist barely because socialism is democratic at this point-- communism isn't.

Putin and all his comrade oligarchs are pure capitalists:

Comrade Moneybags: How Much is Putin Worth? - by Peter Podkopaev

Comrade Moneybags: How Much is Putin Worth?

So Putin is worth less money than Nancy Pelosi?

Got it.

This thread is infested with Foreign Troll Holes.

I'm out. No sensible debate is occurring here.

 

[georgephillip]

If Russia is so bad why did Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder, Barak Obama and John McCain sell them our Uranium and why did Clinton and Obama ask Putin to help them defeat Donald J Trump by paying $14 Million for a Dirty Dossier full of LIES? Why did Obama give Putin a wink and a tug and let him invade Crimea?

He’s a Russian Oligarch.

Is Russia a Capitalist Nation or a Socialist Nation?

Dumb Ass!

The biggest hypocrite and the most dishonest people I have ever met in my life are all Socialists. Lying comes as easy to them as hypocrisy.

By 2030 the richest 1% will own two-thirds of global wealth.

It's only 2019 and Communism already owns you.


Owners name: Roman Abramovich - Abramovich Net Worth: US$ 11.4 billion -Owners company: Gazprom (sold) - Owners Country: Russia - The luxury motor yacht Eclipse is one of the largest yachts in the world. Abramovich is building a new yacht in Germany.

Who is the owner of the yacht?
The yacht is owned by Russian billionaire Roman Arkadyevich Abramovich. He is one of the richest people in the world. He sold his oil company Sibneft for US$ 13 billion.

Who is the owner of the yacht?
The yacht is owned by Russian billionaire Roman Arkadyevich Abramovich. He is one of the richest people in the world. He sold his oil company Sibneft for US$ 13 billion.

Is Abramovich a socialist or a capitalist?

Russia at this point is a corrupt oligarchy close to dictatorship, and Putin is a scumbag. Is also socialist barely because socialism is democratic at this point-- communism isn't.

FACT CHECK: Hillary Clinton Gave 20 Percent of United States' Uranium to Russia in Exchange for Clinton Foundation Donations?

"All nine federal agencies were required to approve the Uranium One transaction before it could go forward. According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly participated in the decision.

"Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton 'never intervened' in committee matters. Clinton herself has said she wasn’t personally involved.

"There Is No Evidence That Uranium Went to Russia."

 

[dudmuck]

the right wing still proclaims the "virtues" of tax cut economics in public venues.

You still proclaim the virtue of envy.

What is there to envy?

White people without a college degree ages 18 to 64 are the largest class of adults lifted out of poverty by such programs (social safety nets), according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. The think tank’s 2017 report stated that 6.2 million working-age whites were lifted above the poverty line in 2014 compared to 2.8 million blacks and 2.4 million Hispanics.

Nobody is lifted out of poverty by the social safety sofa.

who gets lifted out of poverty with tax cut economics?

People who get to keep more of their own money

"In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs."

We get to pay for that, now that our tax refund is 8 percent less.

socialism for the wealthy, capitalism for the rest of us.

 

[Blues Man]

You still proclaim the virtue of envy.

What is there to envy?

White people without a college degree ages 18 to 64 are the largest class of adults lifted out of poverty by such programs (social safety nets), according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. The think tank’s 2017 report stated that 6.2 million working-age whites were lifted above the poverty line in 2014 compared to 2.8 million blacks and 2.4 million Hispanics.

Nobody is lifted out of poverty by the social safety sofa.

who gets lifted out of poverty with tax cut economics?

People who get to keep more of their own money

"In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs."

We get to pay for that, now that our tax refund is 8 percent less.

socialism for the wealthy, capitalism for the rest of us.

Why is it you think huge tax refunds are a good thing?

If people paid less in taxes then there refunds will be less because they overpaid less.

I haven't gotten a tax refund in 20 years so I guess you think that'd a bad thing right?

 

[dudmuck]

What is there to envy?

White people without a college degree ages 18 to 64 are the largest class of adults lifted out of poverty by such programs (social safety nets), according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. The think tank’s 2017 report stated that 6.2 million working-age whites were lifted above the poverty line in 2014 compared to 2.8 million blacks and 2.4 million Hispanics.

Nobody is lifted out of poverty by the social safety sofa.

who gets lifted out of poverty with tax cut economics?

People who get to keep more of their own money

"In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs."

We get to pay for that, now that our tax refund is 8 percent less.

socialism for the wealthy, capitalism for the rest of us.

Why is it you think huge tax refunds are a good thing?

If people paid less in taxes then there refunds will be less because they overpaid less.

I haven't gotten a tax refund in 20 years so I guess you think that'd a bad thing right?

I agree tax refunds arent good, or especially bad either. The point is that middle class is paying more to subsidize the ultra wealthy.

 

[Blues Man]

Nobody is lifted out of poverty by the social safety sofa.

who gets lifted out of poverty with tax cut economics?

People who get to keep more of their own money

"In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs."

We get to pay for that, now that our tax refund is 8 percent less.

socialism for the wealthy, capitalism for the rest of us.

Why is it you think huge tax refunds are a good thing?

If people paid less in taxes then there refunds will be less because they overpaid less.

I haven't gotten a tax refund in 20 years so I guess you think that'd a bad thing right?

I agree tax refunds arent good, or especially bad either. The point is that middle class is paying more to subsidize the ultra wealthy.

Are they?

DO you care to prove that in any way?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You still proclaim the virtue of envy.

What is there to envy?

White people without a college degree ages 18 to 64 are the largest class of adults lifted out of poverty by such programs (social safety nets), according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. The think tank’s 2017 report stated that 6.2 million working-age whites were lifted above the poverty line in 2014 compared to 2.8 million blacks and 2.4 million Hispanics.

Nobody is lifted out of poverty by the social safety sofa.

who gets lifted out of poverty with tax cut economics?

People who get to keep more of their own money

"In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs."

We get to pay for that, now that our tax refund is 8 percent less.

socialism for the wealthy, capitalism for the rest of us.

We get to pay for that, now that our tax refund is 8 percent less.

What was your tax liability for 2017?

What was your tax liability for 2018?​

 

[dblack]

Democrat Talking Point Memo #456:

Employ the "There is No Spoon" strategy.

1. When faced with criticism of socialism, ask for a definition of socialism. If your mark attempts do define it in their own words, equivocate to high-heaven and nitpick each and every word. If they use a dictionary definition, go on to step 2.
2. Ask them for examples of socialism. When supplied, reject each and every one of their offerings with the criterium that only total government ownership of all property is socialism.
3. When they grow weary of your games, declare victory. You have proven they have no idea what socialism is. You win!

 

[dudmuck]

who gets lifted out of poverty with tax cut economics?

People who get to keep more of their own money

"In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs."

We get to pay for that, now that our tax refund is 8 percent less.

socialism for the wealthy, capitalism for the rest of us.

Why is it you think huge tax refunds are a good thing?

If people paid less in taxes then there refunds will be less because they overpaid less.

I haven't gotten a tax refund in 20 years so I guess you think that'd a bad thing right?

I agree tax refunds arent good, or especially bad either. The point is that middle class is paying more to subsidize the ultra wealthy.

Are they?

DO you care to prove that in any way?

I had already provided a link, but i suppose is par for the course for the reading impaired.
The average tax refund is down 8 percent this year, meaning that people are paying more tax overall. There is no tax cut for normal people.

 

[Blues Man]

People who get to keep more of their own money

"In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs."

We get to pay for that, now that our tax refund is 8 percent less.

socialism for the wealthy, capitalism for the rest of us.

Why is it you think huge tax refunds are a good thing?

If people paid less in taxes then there refunds will be less because they overpaid less.

I haven't gotten a tax refund in 20 years so I guess you think that'd a bad thing right?

I agree tax refunds arent good, or especially bad either. The point is that middle class is paying more to subsidize the ultra wealthy.

Are they?

DO you care to prove that in any way?

I had already provided a link, but i suppose is par for the course for the reading impaired.
The average tax refund is down 8 percent this year, meaning that people are paying more tax overall. There is no tax cut for normal people.

It doesn't mean that necessarily

If less taxes were taken out of a person's pay then they overpaid a smaller amount therefore the refund will be smaller

A tax refund is the poorest of all ways to determine the total tax paid as all a refund reflects is the over payment of taxes due.

 

[the other mike]

"In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs."

We get to pay for that, now that our tax refund is 8 percent less.

socialism for the wealthy, capitalism for the rest of us.

Fun fact;
Jeff Bezos' net worth has risen by over $50 billion since Trump was elected to $105 billion--
more than the gross domestic product of Iceland, Belize or Monaco. But many of his Amazon employees can barely afford to pay rent each month.
Here's Why Jeff Bezos Is Not Truly The Richest Person In History

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

People who get to keep more of their own money

"In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs."

We get to pay for that, now that our tax refund is 8 percent less.

socialism for the wealthy, capitalism for the rest of us.

Why is it you think huge tax refunds are a good thing?

If people paid less in taxes then there refunds will be less because they overpaid less.

I haven't gotten a tax refund in 20 years so I guess you think that'd a bad thing right?

I agree tax refunds arent good, or especially bad either. The point is that middle class is paying more to subsidize the ultra wealthy.

Are they?

DO you care to prove that in any way?

I had already provided a link, but i suppose is par for the course for the reading impaired.
The average tax refund is down 8 percent this year, meaning that people are paying more tax overall. There is no tax cut for normal people.

The average tax refund is down 8 percent this year, meaning that people are paying more tax overall.

That's not evidence that people are paying more.
It could be that less was withheld.

What was your Federal tax liability for 2017?

What was your Federal tax liability for 2018?

There is no tax cut for normal people.

I got a sizable tax cut.

 

[the other mike]

I had already provided a link, but i suppose is par for the course for the reading impaired.
The average tax refund is down 8 percent this year, meaning that people are paying more tax overall. There is no tax cut for normal people.
It doesn't mean that necessarily

If less taxes were taken out of a person's pay then they overpaid a smaller amount therefore the refund will be smaller

A tax refund is the poorest of all ways to determine the total tax paid as all a refund reflects is the over payment of taxes due.

And it doesn't account for what should be the high-dollar taxes ( at this point ) like capital gains and estate
and all the loopholes around those. If Koch Industries profits $10 billion a year it doesn't matter-- Charles and David can set their income levels low in order to pay less.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs."

We get to pay for that, now that our tax refund is 8 percent less.

socialism for the wealthy, capitalism for the rest of us.

Fun fact;
Jeff Bezos' net worth has risen by over $50 billion since Trump was elected to $105 billion--
more than the gross domestic product of Iceland, Belize or Monaco. But many of his Amazon employees can barely afford to pay rent each month.
Here's Why Jeff Bezos Is Not Truly The Richest Person In History

Jeff Bezos' net worth has risen by over $50 billion since Trump was elected to $105 billion--

He owns almost 79 million shares of Amazon.

 

[the other mike]

I had already provided a link, but i suppose is par for the course for the reading impaired.
The average tax refund is down 8 percent this year, meaning that people are paying more tax overall. There is no tax cut for normal people.
It doesn't mean that necessarily

If less taxes were taken out of a person's pay then they overpaid a smaller amount therefore the refund will be smaller

A tax refund is the poorest of all ways to determine the total tax paid as all a refund reflects is the over payment of taxes due.

And it doesn't account for what should be the high-dollar taxes ( at this point ) like capital gains and estate
and all the loopholes around those. If Koch Industries profits $10 billion a year it doesn't matter-- Charles and David can set their income levels low in order to pay less, and have a team of full-time lawyers to pull it off..

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

we deserve a minimum wage raise!

You'll get one with a better job market that is not saturated by millions of illegals. Use market forces to increase wages. Don't do it artificially. That causes unemployment.

 

[sartre play]

Socialism never!
say the rich political guys,
while they get free and taxpayer funded
healthcare
paychecks
pensions

 

[danielpalos]

we deserve a minimum wage raise!

You'll get one with a better job market that is not saturated by millions of illegals. Use market forces to increase wages. Don't do it artificially. That causes unemployment.

Grow our economy, we must.

 

[Ame®icano]

Singapore.
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That's feudalism.

 

[Blues Man]

I had already provided a link, but i suppose is par for the course for the reading impaired.
The average tax refund is down 8 percent this year, meaning that people are paying more tax overall. There is no tax cut for normal people.
It doesn't mean that necessarily

If less taxes were taken out of a person's pay then they overpaid a smaller amount therefore the refund will be smaller

A tax refund is the poorest of all ways to determine the total tax paid as all a refund reflects is the over payment of taxes due.

And it doesn't account for what should be the high-dollar taxes ( at this point ) like capital gains and estate
and all the loopholes around those. If Koch Industries profits $10 billion a year it doesn't matter-- Charles and David can set their income levels low in order to pay less, and have a team of full-time lawyers to pull it off..

There is a difference between corporate tax and individual taxes

Mixing the 2 together doesn't do anything for your argument.

I have no problem with capital gains taxes because I have long term investments and when I sell them for income I get to use the 15% rate. And FYI anyone can use them so capital gains taxes aren't really a loophole