NFL kneelers

[Pogo]

still waiting for an explanation of the context on the ORIGINAL PLAYER PROTESTS ...

Angry, entitled black man kneels because he hates America and doesn't appreciate how great this country has been to him or how much worse it is everywhere else

And there it is again --- "Don't tell ME what you think --- *I* will tell you what you think!"

Part and parcel of rhetorical.fascism.

 

[dudmuck]

still waiting for an explanation of the context on the ORIGINAL PLAYER PROTESTS ...

Angry, entitled black man kneels because he hates America and doesn't appreciate how great this country has been to him or how much worse it is everywhere else

kneels because he hates america?

If they can wear these rather be russian than democrat t-shirts, then NFL players should be able to take knee.

 

[Pogo]

still waiting for an explanation of the context on the ORIGINAL PLAYER PROTESTS ...

Angry, entitled black man kneels because he hates America and doesn't appreciate how great this country has been to him or how much worse it is everywhere else

Angry, entitled orange man squeals because he hates anyone not sucking up to him, plays his robots like a two-dollar banjo and doesn't appreciate how great this country has been to him what with being handed an umpteen million dollar empire by his father who scammed it off the government in the first place.

Fixed it for ya.

 

[Pogo]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

Still against the 1st amendment I see, like 45.

How is that being against the first amendment? You do realize the amendment was created so that government could not stop us from free speech, not the NFL, don't you?

The so-called president isn't part of the government? Oh....if only that were true in this case.......

Now people in the government don't have first Amendment rights? Bull crap, they do. They can't pass laws violating free speech or prosecute people for free speech. But they have free speech, despot.

Give an example of where you have EVER applied this standard you claim to have to Democrats

The Desperation of Dreaded Dichotomy-Disease: when you wallow around in the bizzaro planet where all matter is comprised of either "Republicans" or "Democrats".

And the Harangue of Hideous Hypocrisy when the same wag nevertheless claims not to be personally comprised of either, yet affords no one else the same privilege.

Fun stuff.

 

[Erinwltr]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

Actually, many NFL players put action behind their protest during the off season -- now you may not have heard about it because they didn't do it in a way to draw attention --also, because the liberal media didn't want to report on it, because of how liberal the media is and all..

But here is one example of why your post is a bunch of BS:

"After the anthem, and off the field, Jenkins’ push for social justice and racial equality continued. Along with four other NFL players, he traveled to Washington, D.C., for a meeting with lawmakers to discuss criminal justice reform."

When Malcolm Jenkins went on a ride along with Philly police he said: "There was a lot I wanted to accomplish by doing it. First, I wanted to kind of learn for myself before I went on advocating and making a lot of noise. I wanted to learn for myself, kind of both ends of the spectrum. What is it that officers are going through? What are their challenges? Their perspective on the issue. Or even if they believed that there was an issue. And then also being able to hear the voices of members of the community that have to deal with police interactions all the time. The third thing I wanted to do is document the conversations that came out of it, between myself and law enforcement."

Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins talks about his ride-along with Philly Police Department

So no, NFL players are not just protesting during the anthem and nothing else off the field, you wouldn't know or care because you don't see a problem to begin with --- but you same people are willing to declare the entire FBI and DOJ as being corrupt and I don't recall one single Trump official being shot unarmed.

False, a disproportionate number of blacks are CONVICTED not arrested.

For example, even though whites and blacks used illegal drugs at the same rate, blacks are more likely to be CONVICTED -- so to idiots like yourself who don't understand the inherit bias in the justice system that even the Supreme Court recognized --- you think its just because blacks are criminals by their DNA

no, I don't think they are criminals by DNA, that's just stupid. The black crime rate is the direct results of generations of the liberal welfare state that has destroyed the black family. When women are financially incentivized to have kids outside of marriage the result is millions of young black boys being raised with no father figure in their lives, no one to teach them how to be a man, how to be responsible, and how to earn a living. If you want to place blame, put it where it belongs, on liberal societal policies.

"The black crime rate is the direct results of generations of the liberal welfare state that has destroyed the black family. "

More Hannity and Info Wars BS. Ever read up on Jim Crow laws?

So that's why all of the northern prisons are full of blacks? It was Jim Crow laws in the south? You are hilarious!

You could always read what the conservative leaning Supreme Court said about the criminal justice system -- but since most conservatives would rather wait for their talk radio masters to give them their talking points first, I will educate you. Here is what Justice Kennedy wrote in his judicial opinion for the majority 5 justices :

"The unmistakable principle underlying these precedents is that discrimination on the basis of race, odious in all aspects, is especially pernicious in the administration of justice," he wrote, adding that permitting racial prejudice in the jury system damages both the fact and the perception of the jury's role as a vital check against the wrongful exercise of power by the state."

Does the Supreme court admitting the obvious make them anti-white racists?

Reading is not your strong suit is it? That must be why y0u are a libtard.

One justice's writings do not make reality. I note with great glee that you continue your libtard tactics by failing to identify the source of these musings since I suspect that if you had, it would be easy to find a direct counter to that statement.

But then again, you are simply a libtard and thus incapable of intelligent thought and discussion.

No, you are tediously bereft of human compassion.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

Still against the 1st amendment I see, like 45.

Government is prosecuting kneelers? You're going to have to prove that, I call bull shit to that

I think he means that when Trump from his office as president was calling for NFL owners to fire NFL players -- which the owners could do, but people may have had a problem with Trump advocating for these players to face consequences for protesting.

I personally feel most of the president's animosity still stems from when he failed miserably to compete with the NFL years ago.

Of course, it couldn't be because he's thankful to be born in a country that allowed him the success he's had.

Is that why Trump didn't think America was great and is that why Trump denigrated the service of military members who were prisoners of war?

Have you ever once heard any NFL player say anything even remotely close to saying "POW's are not not war heroes, war heroes are people who weren’t captured.” -- Can you provide me a link to any NFL player saying something like this about any member of the military?

If not, then you will understand why many of us feel your complaints about NFL players is deeply seated in racism

 

[Pogo]

If that's what you need to tell yourself as you cry yourself to sleep over the revelation that not everybody is a sheep, I have to say I ain't surprised.

That made no sense in regard to my post. Your eyes are just watering from your searing Democrat party butt hurt

It makes no sense to me either. It's simply an observation that I understand you're not capable of addressing such an issue on its own terms and are forced to set up a strawman barricade to protect your snowflaked ass lest your bubble be burst.

----------- Unless of course you can show the class where some "kneeler" did so to "disrespect the country". But inasmuch as you pulled that out of your ass I doubt you can. So no, it makes no sense to waddle around crowing "Don't tell me what you think- -- I'll tell you what you think!" That's why fascist mentality makes no sense, but it's the soup you choose to swim in, so --- your choice.

Next...

You're such a dumb ass. They are kneeling specifically at the moment that they are playing the national anthem for Americans to just take a moment and appreciate the great country we live in. And you don't get the connection to protesting at that moment and disrespecting the country.

Too much white lightning, hillbilly.

Then there's how I blasted your ass and you call me a "snowflake." That made no sense at all. A snowflake melts, they don't blast your lazy, socialist ass, moron.

You gonna cry again?

Apparently you're still melting right here. In front of everybody.

The price of trying to dictate what other people think. You should know by now where that goes.

You're just babbling

You're just busted.

 

[Pogo]

disrespecting the country came out of Trumps ass - Hannity constantly repeated it - Trumpdrones and Fox fans believe everything that comes from Trump and Fox ... theres no way in hell anyone will ever convince them they're wrong and they were lied to .. FACTS BE DAMNED.

Same RW shit, different day - BIG F'N SURPRISE !!

We believe what we see, Shit for Brains.

91 black men shot in Chicago, last week, and not one NFL player said anything
about it. Not one Chicago Bear went down there. Not one Bear called
out the Mayor.

Why?

Because the NFL teams are all in training camp?

Once again those with no idea what they're spewing about, don't let the fact that they're unarmed slow them down. Into the vallley of death rode they, and blundered.

The NFL doesn't allow them to speak in training camp?

I had locations near the Bengals Training Camp when they trained
in Georgetown, KY. Once practice and meetings had concluded they
were all over the place.

They lock the Bears up?

You can prove your negative then?

Go ahead. Be my jest.

 

[Pogo]

Sports is supposed to be an escape from the rigors of everyday life, is sucks when it becomes political.

This is truth. So you've been firing off strongly-worded letters at the Pentagon and the NFL for trotting in these fake patriotism charades at what was supposed to be a football game, haven't you.

Wow, the Pentagon and the NFL started the kneeling?

You just get dumber and more Democrat partisan every day

They certainly started the anthem. But nice try once AGAIN trying to morph somebody else's statement from what it is into what you wish it had been. Verbal history-revisionism. Again, rhetorical fascism and again, fumble.

It's hilarious how you think the Pentagon started the kneeling bringing politics into sport.

Have you ever had an IQ test to see if you have one?

Upon further review I am forced to amend. I should have added the adjective "desperate" to "Verbal history-revisionism".

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Whenever a black man doesn't have a gun at all, and still gets shot, he had it coming -- he should have just listened - because it clearly states that you are allowed to kill people for not listening to you

Except for in the case of this guy, who actually followed police orders and was still shot...were you outraged about that?

And what happened to the officer?

Yes, you can get shot for not listening because a move you make could be considered life threatening. In most all cases, a grand jury decides not to indict because the officer was within the law when he used deadly force.

If an unarmed man (of any race) approaches me in my car and tries to break in and I have nowhere to go, I can legally fill him with holes, and I won't even get a ticket yet alone charged. That's our law.

Well luckily in the case of the guy who totally followed police commands and was still shot -- luckily there was a guy recording it with a cell phone -- so that officer was charged -- that wouldn't have been the case otherwise. Now if that officer will be convicted, that remains to be seen..

As for your belief that police should be able to shoot anyone who walks up on them or approaches them in their car -- are you claiming that you are in support of this officer shooting this woman for approaching their car?

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It has nothing to do with cars. So I'll post our law here in the State of Ohio for CCW Holders: A licensed CCW holder is permitted to use deadly force if they believe they or others are in jeopardy of serious bodily harm or death. That's our law and it's very similar to those in other states.

As for police officers that do not find themselves in such jeopardy, if they use deadly force, they are held accountable just like any other citizen. And I believe the case you're talking about (above) has not been investigated completely yet, and I'm sure everything will come out (pro or con) when the investigation is complete. Then we'll see what happens at that time.

The bottom line is that there is nothing to protest. When good police officers use justified deadly force, they are not charged. When bad cops use unjustified deadly force, they pay the consequences.

No they usually do not, historically they definitely have not --- this is what the protest is about -- police brutality didn't just start happening a few years ago, it is has been standard operating procedure for people of color since the country was founded-- you may not agree, but no one needs your approval in order for them to protest something that has been clearly established...

For example, the FBI did an investigation of themselves when it came to FBI involved shootings, out of the 150 shootings they reviewed, they cleared themselves in all 150 shootings --- not a single conservative raised any skepticism about those findings -- now just a couple of years later, you same conservatives are willing to believe that the FBI and DOJ are totally corrupt...based on what? the fact that Trump is being investigated -- so your belief that there is nothing to see here when it comes to law enforcement practices is 1000% bullshit....

The F.B.I. Deemed Agents Faultless in 150 Shootings

 

[McRocket]

Actually, many NFL players put action behind their protest during the off season -- now you may not have heard about it because they didn't do it in a way to draw attention --also, because the liberal media didn't want to report on it, because of how liberal the media is and all..

But here is one example of why your post is a bunch of BS:

"After the anthem, and off the field, Jenkins’ push for social justice and racial equality continued. Along with four other NFL players, he traveled to Washington, D.C., for a meeting with lawmakers to discuss criminal justice reform."

When Malcolm Jenkins went on a ride along with Philly police he said: "There was a lot I wanted to accomplish by doing it. First, I wanted to kind of learn for myself before I went on advocating and making a lot of noise. I wanted to learn for myself, kind of both ends of the spectrum. What is it that officers are going through? What are their challenges? Their perspective on the issue. Or even if they believed that there was an issue. And then also being able to hear the voices of members of the community that have to deal with police interactions all the time. The third thing I wanted to do is document the conversations that came out of it, between myself and law enforcement."

Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins talks about his ride-along with Philly Police Department

So no, NFL players are not just protesting during the anthem and nothing else off the field, you wouldn't know or care because you don't see a problem to begin with --- but you same people are willing to declare the entire FBI and DOJ as being corrupt and I don't recall one single Trump official being shot unarmed.

Ok, one example, but Jenkins destroyed all the good he did by kneeling at the first preseason game. Yes, the DOJ and FBI are corrupt, much of the corruption happened under Obama, you tell me, did he condone it or try to stop it?

Yes, no Trump has been shot unarmed------------yet.

This is why there is no reason in talking to a Trump supporter

I just showed you an example of a NFL player doing something beyond anthem protests, and you still find a way to say "yea, but..."

Then in the very same comment, despite a Trump official never being shot while unarmed, never being beaten into a confession while in custody -- you still claim that its the DOJ that is corrupt and how black NFL players should be quiet

I think they should protest if they feel motivated to do so. But not during a football game and to disgrace the national anthem, the flag, the military, and everyone who died protecting their right to protest.

These people died protecting the entire Constitution...EVERYTHING in it. And in the Constitution is the Right to Free Speech and Expression.

Now...are these players exercising their right to free speech and freedom of expression?

Yes or No?

NO, not while on the job. When on the job the employer tells you what is acceptable and unacceptable. Those guys are being PAID by the owners and the fans to play a game.

When you go to work are you allowed to stop working and protest?

That, my ignorant friend, is the point. They are employees, the fans pay to watch them play a game. Its neither the time or place to express whatever grievances they think they have.

Are you the players direct boss? Yes or no?

Is the government allowed to try and restrict someone's freedom of speech (as Trump is trying to do)?

 

[kaz]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

Still against the 1st amendment I see, like 45.

Government is prosecuting kneelers? You're going to have to prove that, I call bull shit to that

I think he means that when Trump from his office as president was calling for NFL owners to fire NFL players -- which the owners could do, but people may have had a problem with Trump advocating for these players to face consequences for protesting.

I personally feel most of the president's animosity still stems from when he failed miserably to compete with the NFL years ago.

Hey, he won three dollars in that suit. Took the USFL down in the process as one of those failed/collapsed businesses he denies ever being part of but hey, three dollars is three dollars. Just $129,997 short of a Stormy Daniels.

So yeah he's still got a hard-on for the NFL. I think that's what he means by "something else must be small".

Oh and when he said "I guarantee there's no problem" obviously he meant there's "a" problem. He just demonstrated it. Another Rumpic "double negative".

The professional writer proves again he doesn't know how to use quote marks. You really were in fake news, I totally believe you. You're a terrible writer

 

[kaz]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

I don't watch sports so I guess I don't get to give a shit.

You realize the thread is accurately titled. If you don't give a shit, click on another link. No one gives a shit that you don't give a shit

Yet you felt the need to reply..........

Right, I think it was stupid that you commented on something to say you don't care about it. So I said so. What about that didn't you follow?

 

[Pogo]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

Progressives are often fucked in the head. They lack respect, promote division and like bringing attention to themselves. In this case they're in such decay they lie by denying they're protesting our flag, anthem and country. And they can't even articulate their motives using factual information.

So, I get it. You know what they are protesting & those protesting don't know.

How about you fake Americans STFU & quit using the military as a crutch when we all know that if you actually gave a shit about this country or its military, you would not have voted for the veteran trashing, draft dodging POS Trump.

That's how self-delusion works --- when some party explains their position they go

--- then after it's safe the snowflakes proceed to dictate what that party "should have" said. About their own opinion.

The Straw Man argument --- the simplistic tool of the rhetorically bankrupt.

 

[kaz]

still waiting for an explanation of the context on the ORIGINAL PLAYER PROTESTS ...

Angry, entitled black man kneels because he hates America and doesn't appreciate how great this country has been to him or how much worse it is everywhere else

Typical asshole Trumpette who doesn't give a rat's ass that black men are being unjustly killed by law enforcement.

Maybe they just don't know their place, right?

And "Real" Dave admits he's losing and getting his ass handed to him. He tries to end debate with ... you're a racist!

LOL, thanks for the admission, RealLoser ...

The idea that you think these players have nothing to protest PRIOVES you are a racist piece of shit. Your problem, like many of your ilk, is that your racism is so inbred that you don't even know how racist you are.

These players are protesting social injustice based on race.

Strawman, that's not what I said.

And you already conceded you have nothing by going to racism. Lose with dignity

 

[LA RAM FAN]

still waiting for an explanation of the context on the ORIGINAL PLAYER PROTESTS ...

Angry, entitled black man kneels because he hates America and doesn't appreciate how great this country has been to him or how much worse it is everywhere else

Angry, entitled orange man squeals because he hates anyone not sucking up to him, plays his robots like a two-dollar banjo and doesn't appreciate how great this country has been to him what with being handed an umpteen million dollar empire by his father who scammed it off the government in the first place.

Fixed it for ya.

Indeed.as much as i hated that facist pig Obama,the one thing I give kudos to him on is he at LEAST recognized it that its the right of an individual to salute the flag or not.when the NFL came up with a reasonable solution,that the kneelers stay in the locker room,he then whines and says that is an even worse idea.I like a lot of stuff trump is doing domestic wise over that facist obama but this is not one of them,this is more in line with many of obamas policys. funny how in THIS case,Obama has been more like a president who believes in the constitution where Trump is just the opposite,closer to how Obama always was during his administration,a dictater. who would have thunk.LOL

 

[Pogo]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

Still against the 1st amendment I see, like 45.

Government is prosecuting kneelers? You're going to have to prove that, I call bull shit to that

I think he means that when Trump from his office as president was calling for NFL owners to fire NFL players -- which the owners could do, but people may have had a problem with Trump advocating for these players to face consequences for protesting.

I personally feel most of the president's animosity still stems from when he failed miserably to compete with the NFL years ago.

Hey, he won three dollars in that suit. Took the USFL down in the process as one of those failed/collapsed businesses he denies ever being part of but hey, three dollars is three dollars. Just $129,997 short of a Stormy Daniels.

So yeah he's still got a hard-on for the NFL. I think that's what he means by "something else must be small".

Oh and when he said "I guarantee there's no problem" obviously he meant there's "a" problem. He just demonstrated it. Another Rumpic "double negative".

The professional writer proves again he doesn't know how to use quote marks. You really were in fake news, I totally believe you. You're a terrible writer

Don't know about that but in English, by tradition we end sentences with periods.
Oopsie poopsie. One is hoist with one's own petard, isn't one.

Yes? Question in the back?

Lose with dignity

The answer is yes. Every time.

 

[Ringel05]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

I don't watch sports so I guess I don't get to give a shit.

You realize the thread is accurately titled. If you don't give a shit, click on another link. No one gives a shit that you don't give a shit

Yet you felt the need to reply..........

Right, I think it was stupid that you commented on something to say you don't care about it. So I said so. What about that didn't you follow?

Seems someone was triggered...... And it twern't me........
Let me guess, you have an un-diagnosed control fixation.......

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

No, the reason behind the movement has been very clear -- they are protesting the lack of ACCOUNTABILITY by law enforcement and prosecutors when it comes to their reluctance to prosecute bad cops and even in cases were the officers were "FOUND" guilty -- they still receive relatively light sentences -- that is what the protests are geared towards

but for folks like you, you feel a rancher in Nevada not paying a million bucks in grazing fees is the real injustice worth having an armed standoff over.

Why don't you give me an example of what you're talking about. Every police shooting or accusation of brutality is investigated thoroughly, some are police even brought to charges even though they did everything by the book.

What these black players are protesting is that police don't go to jail for following the law. They are politically and legally ignorant. We don't lock up cops for doing something you don't like. That's how it works in the jungle, but not in a civilized society.

Here, police (and us armed citizens) have the right to use deadly force even against an unarmed attacker. These overpaid game players don't understand that. Like you, they have no knowledge that there are more whites (and unarmed whites) who get shot and killed by police every year than blacks, yet where are the white football players taking a knee for them?

And like you, they don't know anything about it because like you, they are merely media puppets who are told what to do instead of thinking for themselves. The MSM knows that when white people get shot, it won't start any protests, it won't start any riots, it won't cause people to attack private and public business or destroy police cars.

"second, if I did, and decided to still protest, I will accept the punishment, which in the case of the NFL is a fine" -- What about reading do you not like? Also, everyone's principles are not for sale, I know most conservatives are almost incapable of believing that fact, but its true -- some people stand on their principles despite financial losses

Which is why this man who was hated for his stance back then is so admired now by those who would have hated them back then

On principles? I guess that would explain all the black football players leaving the NFL.

No the principle is that even with threat of their finances being affected by fines and loss sponsorships, they are still pushing forward with their protests -- not only that, they have the influence to sway public sentiment in their direction enough to withstand any retribution by the league owners or the president --- that is the fact that bothers you folks the most

You would much rather the black entertainer would just duck his head and keep dancing for massa -- no thanks..

Well now that there are penalties involved, let's see them face those fines.

If you are confident none of them will kneel out of fear of facing fines -- what are you cucks even complaining about?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

Progressives are often fucked in the head. They lack respect, promote division and like bringing attention to themselves. In this case they're in such decay they lie by denying they're protesting our flag, anthem and country. And they can't even articulate their motives using factual information.

So, I get it. You know what they are protesting & those protesting don't know.

How about you fake Americans STFU & quit using the military as a crutch when we all know that if you actually gave a shit about this country or its military, you would not have voted for the veteran trashing, draft dodging POS Trump.

Are you saying they should have voted for that mass murderer witch who along with her husband, trampled all over the constitution when he was president and has illegally spied on trump? given who the alternative was,and it was someone who had never been a career politician,only an idiot would have voted for the evil witch over Trump especially since politicians that get up that high as the final two candidates are always criminals