No Longer David:*The State of Israel As Goliath

[SherriMunnerlyn]

All I see illustrated in the last post is Israel carrying out war crimes.

When shall these Israeli baby killers be brought to justice?

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Free Thought Manifesto: Israel's War Crimes Against Children

313 children are named in this report, all killed by Israel in Cast Lead.

An Appendix identifies each child killed by name.

The report states in addition to 313 children named , 7 child combatants were also killed.

 

[Kondor3]

Yep... the Gazans got their asses kicked pretty hard during the course of Operation Cast Lead.

They can thank their Hamas masters for...

1. embedding war-assets within heavy concentrations of Gazan civilians

2. launching massive rocket barrages against Israeli civilian population centers

...in the weeks beforehand; which triggered Operation Cast Lead in the first place.

I'll bet those dead Gazans cursed Hamas with their dying breaths, for subjecting them to such dangers.

Pity.

Don't want to incur civilians casualties like that, in connection with counterstrikes?

Don't launch the rocket-barrages that triggered such counterstrikes and operations in the first place.

Duh.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Kondor keeps ignoring the Facts that Israels deliberate targeting of civilians in Cast Lead are war crimes!

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Deliberate attacks on civilian homes are war crimes.

One cannot escape liability for murdering children by saying leave and then deliberately dropping a bomb on the children.

Not to mention the fact there was no where in Gaza safe from Israels murdering war crimes.

Children and families were killed leaving their homes.

Children and families were killed in UN Shelters.

The borders of Gaza were closed.

People should have taken shelter. Would you go about your daily business if you knew the IDF were about to bomb Hamas targets? No, of course you wouldn't. Hamas are to blame for firing rockets into Israel and for not protecting Gazan citizens.

 

[Kondor3]

Kondor keeps ignoring the Facts that Israels deliberate targeting of civilians in Cast Lead are war crimes!

Or, alternatively, Sherri keeps ignoring the fact that Gazan civilian casualties incurred during the course of Operation Cast Lead were overwhelmingly collateral casualties inflicted while the IDF was striking against war-assets and combatants which had been intentionally embedded within heavy concentrations of Gazan civilians.

Such embedding is, in all probability, in direct violation of the Geneva Convention and its Protocols and, as such, may very well constitute War Crimes.

Attempting to portray these as large-scale and widespread intentional targetings of civilians is disingenuous and mere spin-doctoring by pro-Palestinian propagandists.

 

[irosie91]

Getting Christians to take sides with the Muslims against the Jews?[/SIZE]


Good luck with that!

[
the concept of muslim/christian alliance against jews is nothing new----
In the world of nazism. It was mainstream stuff when I encountered the
nazi propaganda way back ----before 1960 ---Back then it was being pushed
by American nazis ----many of whom-----I happen to know-----would object
when arabs and southeast asians started moving into town (yup----that town
in which I grew up) My mother had to rescue a pakistani child from neighborhood
nazi bullies. ------that took place----sometime in the 1980s. The nazi bully children
hurled insults at her for so engaging-----including "OLD JEWISH LADY"

STILL-----the crap I read as kid-----circa 1960-----was very much like the stuff
sherri writes. --------JOOOOOS OPPRESS ARABS (AKA MUSLIMS)

The emergence of "" PRO CHRISTIAN ISLAM""-----developed---IMO----around
1990 ------as a ""LETS KILL THE JOOOOOS ----TOGETHER" movement to which
american nazis are naturally drawn

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Kondor keeps ignoring the Facts that Israels deliberate targeting of civilians in Cast Lead are war crimes!

Or, alternatively, Sherri keeps ignoring the fact that Gazan civilian casualties incurred during the course of Operation Cast Lead were overwhelmingly collateral casualties inflicted while the IDF was striking against war-assets and combatants which had been intentionally embedded within heavy concentrations of Gazan civilians.

Such embedding is, in all probability, in direct violation of the Geneva Convention and its Protocols and, as such, may very well constitute War Crimes.

Attempting to portray these as large-scale and widespread intentional targetings of civilians is disingenuous and mere spin-doctoring by pro-Palestinian propagandists.

None of that is what human rights groups tell us in their investigations.

Why do you keep lying?

I choose to believe the experts and discount your uninformed Zionist views.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

WAR CRIMES BY HAMAS AGAINST THEIR OWN CITIZENS​

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0wJXf2nt4Y]Hamas - Human Shield Confession - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JURMFtGRpjc]Colonel Richard Kemp Challenges Goldstone Report - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrLfiMm86tA]UK Colonel Richard Kemp praises Israel's efforts to reduce civilian casualties in Gaza - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Kondor3]

"...None of that is what human rights groups tell us in their investigations..."

Nobody doubts that these so-called Human Rights Organizations have dug-up one-sided evidence and testimony pertaining to several incidents of intentional IDF fire against Gazan civilians.

Nobody doubts that these so-called Human Rights Organizations have dug-up corroborating evidence from Israeli soldier A or B or C, that some of that did, indeed, take place.

Nobody doubts that these so-called Human Rights Organizations are stereotypically and justifiably perceived as being extremely biased against Israel.

But most sane, rational people doubt that these so-called Human Rights Organizations can credibly claim that the vast majority of Gazan civilian deaths were anything but exactly as described above... collateral casualties, incurred while the IDF was striking at war-targets.

"...Why do you keep lying?"

Who is the liar?

The person who is willing to concede that some modest amount of unwarranted or intentional targeting did probably take place, in all likelihood?

...OR...

The person who makes blanket statements that disingenuously attempt to portray ALL such casualties as unwarranted or intentional targeting?

I'm content to let the readership decide for themselves.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

As I said, I accept the reports of the human rights groups who identified wide scale unlawful targeting of civilians by Israel in military operations in Cast Lead.

As previously discussed in this thread and in Goliath, IDF commanders ordered soldiers to shell houses.

A soldiers words, specific houses were identified in neighborhoods and they were ordered to put a shell in each house.

Israel ordered her combatants to target civilians and civilian objects.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Israel killed 1400 in Gaza, most of them were civilians unlawfully targeted.

That is what human rights groups document in their reports.

 

[irosie91]

Israel killed 1400 in Gaza, most if them were civilians unlawfully targeted.

That is what human rights groups document in their reports.

all jihado nazi baby murdering dogs are "civilians" the islamic heros---
the BROTHERS BOSTONI-----were civilians, , too. In fact all of the jihado
pigs----sherri worships who drove planes into the world trade center ----2001----
were CIVILIANS TOO.

OSAMA BIN LADEN-----the ---SAINT OF THE ISA WORSHIPPING SLUTS----was also
a CIVILIAN


Long ago------when I was young-----a smiling pakistani surgeon------told me why
it is LEGAL FOR MUSLIMS (aka isa-respecters) TO MURDER JEWS IN AIRPORTS----
------easy------they WEAR NO UNIFORMS-------they are "CIVILIANS" -------of course---
since that time------sherri's "CIVILIANS" have branched out--------since that time
MILLIONS -------christians and hindus ----lay dead in the dust to the DELIGHT OF
SHERRI--------dead for the glory of isa/allah--------by the hand of "civilians"

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Here we see what real "Death Cultists" do in Palestine!

Are they all like the Zionist here who calls Christians Muslims?


Free Thought Manifesto: Israel's War Crimes Against Children

War Crimes Against Children Report released 14 May 2009

Case Study 2

This involved an attack on a civilian attack on a house with a bomb from an Israeli aircraft.

22 members of 1 family, of the al-Dayeh family, were killed in this direct attack on a civilian home in Gaza on 1/6/2009 in Zaytoun district of Gaza City.

12 children were murdered by Israel in this one attack plus a woman who was 8 months pregnant.

Bodies taken from the collapsed house were burnt beyond recogntion.

The murdered Palestinians, all killed by Israel:

1. Fayez Musbah Hashem al-Dayah. Age 60

2. Kawkab Said Hussein al-Dayah. Age 57

3. Radwan Fayez Musbah al-Dayah. Age 22

4. Sabrin Fayez Musbah al-Dayah. Age 24

5. Raghda Fayez Musbah al-Dayah. Age 34

6. Eyad Fayez Musbah al-Dayah. Age 36

7. Rawda Hilal Hussein al-Dayah. Age 32

8. Ali Eyad Fayez Musbah al-Dayah. Age 10

9. Khitam Eyad Fayez Musbah al-Dayah. Age 9

10. Alaa Eyad Fayez Musbah al-Dayah. Age 7

11. Rabaa Eyad Fayez al-Dayah. Age 6

12. Sharaf Al-Din Eyad Fayez al-Dayah. Age 5

13. Mohammed Eyad Fayez al-Dayah. Age 7 months

14. Ramez Fayez Musbah al-Dayah Age 27

15. Safaa Saleh Mohammed al-Dayah. Age 20

16. Baraa Ramez Fayez al-Dayah. Age 1.5

17. Salsabil Ramez Fayez al-Dayah. Age 5 months

18. Tazal Ismail Ismail Mohammed al-Dayah. Age 28 (8 months pregnant)

19. Amani Mohammed. Fayez al-Dayah. Age 6

20. Qamar Mohammed Fayez al-Dayah. Age 5

21. Arij Mohammed Fayez al- Dayah. Age 3

22. Yousef Mohammed Fayez al-Dayah. Age 2

One family member in the house survived, 28 year old Aamer al-Dayah. He was flung 8 metres from the house.

One other family member, Rida al-Dayah, had been at the mosque praying and walking towards home when he saw the explosion.

The two surviving members of the al-Dayah family said they had received no information from the IOF their house would be destroyed.

Investigations determined there was militant activity in the area but all the victims of this direct attack on this house were civilians.

The direct attack on a civilian object, a house, when civilians are sheltering there because of the intensity of an IOF assault, is a willful killing, a grave breach of the Geneva Convention, making the attack a war crime.

Also, as it is reasonably expected the complete destruction of a house would result in extensive death and injury to civilians, the attack constitutes two counts of war crimes, as defined in Articles 8 (2)(b) (ii) and (iv) of the Statute of the Intl Criminal Court.

Militants were not in the house and were approximately 50 metres away. Israel used excessive and disproportionate lethal force in this attack.

 

[Kondor3]

"...Investigations determined there was militant activity in the area but all the victims of this direct attack on this house were civilians..."

1. Investigations by whom?

2. Was/were the hit(s) on the house Intentional or Accidental?

3. If 'intentional', was it a 'righteous' fire-mission? (probable cause?)

4. Are we even sure that it was IDF munitions that destroyed the house?

5. Did a professional and unbiased third-party munitions-forensics team determine whose munitions hit the house?

"...The direct attack on a civilian object, a house, when civilians are sheltering there because of the intensity of an IOF assault, is a willful killing, a grave breach of the Geneva Convention, making the attack a war crime..."

1. Innocent until proven guilty.

2. The matter has not been tried.

3. Do we have proof that the IDF knew that civilians were sheltering there?

4. Do we know WHY the IDF called-in a fire-mission on that house? (probable cause?)

"...Also, as it is reasonably expected the complete destruction of a house would result in extensive death and injury to civilians, the attack constitutes two counts of war crimes as defined in Articles 8 (2)(b) (ii) and (iv) of the Statute of the Intl Criminal Court..."

1. innocent until proven guilty

2. adding what's already been said, above.

"...Militants were not in the house and were approximately 50 metres away..."

1. embedding troops and war-assets within civilian population centers is a War Crime as defined in the Geneva Conventions and their attendant Protocols.

2. militants needed to be more like 5,000 meters away rathr than 50 meters away, in order to avoid risk to their own civilian population.

3. the failure of the militants to position themselves away from civilian population centers and residential areas is the direct and proxmiate cause of such IDF fire missions.

4. consequently, the Palestinian militants may be argued to be at-fault, de facto, and, quite probably, de jure as well, rather than the IDF.

"...Israel used excessive and disproportionate lethal force in this attack."

1. innocent until proven guilty

2. we do not know that the IDF used excessive force

3. if the intent of the fire-mission was to kill militants, then, the IDF fire mission used just as much force as such a situation required, in order to destroy their shelter and personnel.

4. In such a case, the presence or absence of such militants is non sequitur, assuming that the IDF fire-mission was called-in on good faith, that militants were sheltering there.

 

[irosie91]

Actually ---the PROXIMITY OF MILITANT BABY BRAIN SMASHING FOR ISA/ALLAH
activity-----did render the house a legal military target------don't tell sherri---its
ok------she cannot see this message------so she can go on dancing on the dead
bodies of "non-isa/allah respecters" --------do not interrupt her depraved joy

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Investigation by the human rights group PCHR made the findings I addressed in my post. I provided a link to their full report. But that particular group is certainly not the only group making findings of that nature.

Amnesty Intl issued multiple reports finding Israel committed war crimes in targeting civilians in Cast Lead, as did HRW and DCI Palestine and many others.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Some day, there shall be war crimes trials to bring to justice Israels war crimes in Gaza.

Until that day comes, noone shall stop discussing these war crimes.

 

[Billo_Really]

1. Investigations by whom?

2. Was/were the hit(s) on the house Intentional or Accidental?

3. If 'intentional', was it a 'righteous' fire-mission? (probable cause?)

4. Are we even sure that it was IDF munitions that destroyed the house?

5. Did a professional and unbiased third-party munitions-forensics team determine whose munitions hit the house?

Members of the IDF (who do the shooting) have admitted they treat everyone as the enemy and make no distinction between military and civilian targets.

1. Innocent until proven guilty.

2. The matter has not been tried.


1. innocent until proven guilty

2. adding what's already been said, above.

Shove that shit up your ass!

The Israeli's have a long track record of not investigating these occurances, so fuck you!

2. militants needed to be more like 5,000 meters away rathr than 50 meters away, in order to avoid risk to their own civilian population.

"...to be more like..."


That means YOU DON"T KNOW!

4. consequently, the Palestinian militants may be argued to be at-fault, de facto, and, quite probably, de jure as well, rather than the IDF.

Did you read what she said, fuckhead?

Only ones killed were civilians.

2. we do not know that the IDF used excessive force

Yes we do.

Not only do they have a track history of such, IDF members have admitted that that's what their told to do by their commanders.

 

[Kondor3]

Investigation by the human rights group PCHR made the findings I addressed in my post....

The investigation was conducted by the P(alestinian) C(enter) for H(uman) R(ights)???!!!

Thank you for playing...