No, Muslims Should NOT Be Allowed To Serve In Public Office

[Rigby5]

Or how about SAWING living human beings HEADS OFF? Ya... that's ISLAM... what a LOVELY bunch of EVIL, straight from the halls of HELL...

Wrong again.
The Quran says that beheading is the only legal means of execution, but it says that the purpose of that is because an ax or heavy sword can do it the quickest and least painful.
Using a knife is totally against the Quran then.
So then this has to be ISIS, which is known for being the opposite of Islam.
ISIS is a fake organization created by the US, to try to make Muslims look bad.
Again, not a single Muslim cleric supports ISIS.

 

[Lastamender]

In 1900 the population of Palestine was over 95% Muslim.
They could easily have murdered all the Jews in Jerusalem.
Why didn't they?

Why didn't they?

Because the Jews were dhimmis. And the world was getting smaller and massacres attracted attention. Islam says to dominate by any means necessary. Why lie about it?

in 1990 Palestine was under the control of the OTTOMAN EMPIRE.
Jews were willing to BUY (that is for MONEY) land in Palestine-----
the Turks were DELIGHTED TO SELL-------wake up to reality,
rigby, habibi. Jews began BUYING land from the Turks in the early
1800s

Wrong again.
The Ottoman Empire was Muslim, and it was illegal in the Ottoman Empire to sell land to Jewish immigrants.
Jews only bought a tiny amount of land in Palestine before it was made illegal.
And Turks never has the rights to sell any land.
They only owned the land the way the Queen of England owns all of the UK.
It only means she gets a cut of the property tax.
It does not mean she can sell any of it.
Only the one with tenants rights can sell property back under the Ottoman Empire.

wrong again----the Ottomans mitigated the filth of shariah and DID SELL
LAND TO JEWS in Palestine. There were parts of the Ottoman empire
that were more autonomous and in those parts the local mullahs and sheiks did cling to the vile stench of shariah. The policies of the Ottomans really bothered those muslims who like the stink of shariah.

Sorry, but that is really stupid.

Ottoman did not have the legal right to sell any land anywhere in Palestine.
They only owned the taxation rights, not the occupation rights.

Sharia comes from the Old Testament and is actually Jewish.

You are a liar but you can do better than that. That statement proves you are not even worth listening to about Islam. Go away.

 

[Rigby5]

No doubt middle east cults have run their course and should be banned. All of them. And of course Islam is the worse, but it was let in to the West by Jews and Jews are given a free pass by Evangelical idiots. In theory it is anti Semitic (fake ass buzzword) to criticize Islam since it has been a Jewish project for decades now, to get them into the West.

My hubby was born in a country in which the jewish population of that country had lived for more than a thousand years...
They were a literate people-----there for more than 2500 years----

1,000 or 2,500 years, make up your mind! It is funny that illiterate idiots think the fairy tale 12 tribes of Israel, originally 13 based on the 13 new moons of a lunar year, they, if they ever existed were moon worshippers at one time, were all "jews." The tribes of Judah and Benjamin (actually called different names) were actually at war with Israel half the time when they failed to slaughter neighboring nomads. Yahweh instructed them to be nomads. Which is an interesting philosophical thing. As long as White people made the world safe to be a nomad. Try being a nomad in the middle east or africa today.

Agree part way, except that actually Islam is likely about the best.
It emphasized education, science, math (Islam is known for algebra, calculus, geometry, etc.), and things like social services for orphans/widows, etc. Huge advancement of government.

 

[Lastamender]

Or how about SAWING living human beings HEADS OFF? Ya... that's ISLAM... what a LOVELY bunch of EVIL, straight from the halls of HELL...

Wrong again.
but it says that the purpose of that is because an ax or heavy sword can do it the quickest and least painful.
Using a knife is totally against the Quran then.
So then this has to be ISIS, which is known for being the opposite of Islam.
ISIS is a fake organization created by the US, to try to make Muslims look bad.
Again, not a single Muslim cleric supports ISIS.

The Quran says that beheading is the only legal means of execution,

Let's see the verses that say that.

 

[Rigby5]

try again-----he went to Yathrib because that is where jews lived and
jews were not killing anyone-------but had a very thriving city-------he
went for the looting, the murder and to rape a few girls. ---which is what
he did. From there he want to KHAYBAR and raped a jewish girl named
SAFIYAH------she killed him (YAAAAAY---yipeee) poisoned his shish kebab
and probably his BABAGANOUCH

Funny, most prophets know when they are going to die.

{...
Death and tomb
A few months after the farewell pilgrimage, Muhammad fell ill and suffered for several days with fever, head pain, and weakness. He died on Monday, 8 June 632, in Medina, at the age of 62 or 63, in the house of his wife Aisha.[187] With his head resting on Aisha's lap, he asked her to dispose of his last worldly goods (seven coins), then spoke his final words:

O Allah, to Ar-Rafiq Al-A'la (exalted friend, highest Friend or the uppermost, highest Friend in heaven).

...}
Muhammad - Wikipedia

humans did not die at the ate of 62 from NOTHING----he was never well again
after SAFIYAH poisoned him. I am well passed 62----not poisoned and doing fine

You claimed he raped someone at 62, and people did not live nearly as long back then.
There is no evidence anything you wrote is remotely true.
You are just making things up.
He did not invade Medina, but came back for a celebration.

wrong---he died at 62 ---that was a bit after he murdered Safiya's husband and
father and raped Safiya. You imagine that 62 year old "CONQUERING HEROS"
are unable to rape. That's funny. The life span of people has not changed----
if they die before about 75 -80 it is BY CAUSE ------not because of the date
on the calendar. Nothing I have written is just "made up" ----you are spitting
khutbah jumaat crap

You claim to have knowledge, but everything you write is totally contradicted by everyone else.
That means you either are making it up, or you have really, really bad sources that it is foolish for you to believe.
Just try doing a little research first, before posting garbage that wastes our time.

For example Safiyah was not a rape victim, but one of Mohammad's wives.

{...
Safiyyah bint Huyayy was one of the wives of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad.[1]She was, along with all other wives of Muhammad, titled Umm-ul-Mu'mineen or the "Mother of Believers".[2]

After Muhammad's death, she became involved in the power politics of the early Muslim community, and acquired substantial influence by the time of her death.
...}
Safiyya bint Huyayy - Wikipedia

 

[Rigby5]

Oh, right, in a foreign country that does not speak or write English, people would spend money having perfect banners printed out that they could not read?

Have you not heard of Photoshop?

Photoshop my ass...

How the FUCK can you be that Gullible?

Before you answer ---- wanna buy a bridge?

That question is for you... look in the mirror... you ignorant, pathetic little empty headed moron...

You obviously are referring to Judaism, because that is where Sharia comes from.
Mohammad tried to reform Judaism and make it more fair to women, but the Old Testament traditions won out over time.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Highlighting yet again how alike the wingers are...left wing or right wing...same damn bird.


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No because in Republican controlled areas freedom of speech and every Constitutional amendment still exists.

Yet here we are in a thread about removing the 1st amendment rights from a group of people...an idea supported by all the right wingers


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--------------------------- foreigners don't have a 'first amendment Right' to immigrate and can be excluded for any reason GGator . ------- just a comment GGator .

Where do you get that shit from? The constitution applies to everyone on American soil, regardless

------------------------ yep , ' ON ' American soil . But many times some people claim that the 'first amendment' applies to any Fureigner that wants to import themselves into the USA 'P.P..

Are you claiming that it does not?

 

[irosie91]

Or how about SAWING living human beings HEADS OFF? Ya... that's ISLAM... what a LOVELY bunch of EVIL, straight from the halls of HELL...

Wrong again.
The Quran says that beheading is the only legal means of execution, but it says that the purpose of that is because an ax or heavy sword can do it the quickest and least painful.
Using a knife is totally against the Quran then.
So then this has to be ISIS, which is known for being the opposite of Islam.
ISIS is a fake organization created by the US, to try to make Muslims look bad.
Again, not a single Muslim cleric supports ISIS.

wrong again. keep in mind----I have correctly stated that I have LOTS of relatives
thru marriage who were born in lands that were INVADED by arab muslims---if you NEED to know anything about what exists in Islamic jurisprudence-----ask a former
DHIMMI. Feel free to ask questions. I read the Koran before you were born. If you are a Shiite-----I would expect you to claim "no one supports ISIS"----

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Oh, right, in a foreign country that does not speak or write English, people would spend money having perfect banners printed out that they could not read?

Have you not heard of Photoshop?

Photoshop my ass...

How the FUCK can you be that Gullible?

Before you answer ---- wanna buy a bridge?

That question is for you... look in the mirror... you ignorant, pathetic little empty headed moron...

You obviously are referring to Judaism, because that is where Sharia comes from.
Mohammad tried to reform Judaism and make it more fair to women, but the Old Testament traditions won out over time.

Hmm. You maybe right.
A lot of Islamic & Christian values come from Judaism.
If we can call Abraham as such....more like those who reject Christ are the Synagogue of Satan.

Yes, a lot of the harsher parts of Islam & Christianity tend to come from the Old Testament or even the Talmud.

 

[Lastamender]

Funny, most prophets know when they are going to die.

{...
Death and tomb
A few months after the farewell pilgrimage, Muhammad fell ill and suffered for several days with fever, head pain, and weakness. He died on Monday, 8 June 632, in Medina, at the age of 62 or 63, in the house of his wife Aisha.[187] With his head resting on Aisha's lap, he asked her to dispose of his last worldly goods (seven coins), then spoke his final words:

O Allah, to Ar-Rafiq Al-A'la (exalted friend, highest Friend or the uppermost, highest Friend in heaven).

...}
Muhammad - Wikipedia

humans did not die at the ate of 62 from NOTHING----he was never well again
after SAFIYAH poisoned him. I am well passed 62----not poisoned and doing fine

You claimed he raped someone at 62, and people did not live nearly as long back then.
There is no evidence anything you wrote is remotely true.
You are just making things up.
He did not invade Medina, but came back for a celebration.

wrong---he died at 62 ---that was a bit after he murdered Safiya's husband and
father and raped Safiya. You imagine that 62 year old "CONQUERING HEROS"
are unable to rape. That's funny. The life span of people has not changed----
if they die before about 75 -80 it is BY CAUSE ------not because of the date
on the calendar. Nothing I have written is just "made up" ----you are spitting
khutbah jumaat crap

You claim to have knowledge, but everything you write is totally contradicted by everyone else.
That means you either are making it up, or you have really, really bad sources that it is foolish for you to believe.
Just try doing a little research first, before posting garbage that wastes our time.

For example Safiyah was not a rape victim, but one of Mohammad's wives.

{...
Safiyyah bint Huyayy was one of the wives of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad.[1]She was, along with all other wives of Muhammad, titled Umm-ul-Mu'mineen or the "Mother of Believers".[2]

After Muhammad's death, she became involved in the power politics of the early Muslim community, and acquired substantial influence by the time of her death.
...}
Safiyya bint Huyayy - Wikipedia

Why do you use Wikipedia, you should be able to show us in Islamic text what you say. You do not know anything but the sugar coated bullshit apologists try to pass off as truth. Not going to work here.

 

[Rigby5]

No doubt middle east cults have run their course and should be banned. All of them. And of course Islam is the worse, but it was let in to the West by Jews and Jews are given a free pass by Evangelical idiots. In theory it is anti Semitic (fake ass buzzword) to criticize Islam since it has been a Jewish project for decades now, to get them into the West.

My hubby was born in a country in which the jewish population of that country had lived for more than a thousand years...
They were a literate people-----there for more than 2500 years----

1,000 or 2,500 years, make up your mind! It is funny that illiterate idiots think the fairy tale 12 tribes of Israel, originally 13 based on the 13 new moons of a lunar year, they, if they ever existed were moon worshippers at one time, were all "jews." The tribes of Judah and Benjamin (actually called different names) were actually at war with Israel half the time when they failed to slaughter neighboring nomads. Yahweh instructed them to be nomads. Which is an interesting philosophical thing. As long as White people made the world safe to be a nomad. Try being a nomad in the middle east or africa today.

2500 years. What does the 12 tribes of Israel have to do with anything
now under discussion. That episode PRECEDES 2500 years ago. The name
Israel refers to Jacob-----and includes all the tribes of the "children of Israel"----
a little confusing for you. 2500 years ago is, approximately 500 BC---about the
time of the Babylonian captivity-----when jews picked up Aramaic ---and moved around in Mesopotamia and local places

The 12 tribes of Israel are important because it shows that Hebrew were originally Moon worshipers.
They did not become monotheistic until they went to Egypt to escape drought.
The whole Yahweh thing came from copying an Egyptian monotheistic cult.

Jews likely did pick up Aramaic around 500 BC and become literate finally, but Hebrew still would not have the beginnings of any written form until another 400 years or so.

But the commandment from God to become nomadic did not happen until 160 AD when the Roman defeated the Jewish rebellion and they destroyed the second temple of Solomon.
Jews are not supposed to return to Jerusalem until atonement for the "sins of pride and arrogance" are done and indicated by the coming of the Messiah. Until then, it is not just sacrilege to try to create Zion on Earth, but an insult to all the ancestors who did try to atone.

 

[Lastamender]

2:191-194 Religion is for Allah..."
2:216-218 "Fighting is Ordained for You Though You Dislike It..."
2:244 "Fight in the Way of Allah..."
3:28, 5:51 "Take Not the Jews and Christians as Friends..."
3:56 "Disbelievers Will Be Punished in This World..."
3:151 "We Shall Cast Terror into the Hearts of Those Who Disbelieve..."
4:74 "Sell the Life of This World for the Hereafter..."
4:89 "If They Turn Away, Seize Them and Kill Them..."
4:95 "Not Equal are the Believers Who Sit at Home and Those Who Fight for Allah..."
4:104 "And Do Not Be Weak in Pursuit of the Enemy..."
5:33 "Those Who Do Mischief in the Land Shall be Killed or Crucified..."
8:12 "I will Cast Terror into the Hearts of Those who Disbelieve... Strike off Their Heads..."
8:39 "Fight Them Until There is No More Fitna and Religion Be Only for Allah..."
8:59-60 "Make Ready Against [the Disbelievers] All Steeds of War..."
9:5 "Slay the Idolaters Wherever You Find Them..."
9:29 "Fight Those Who Believe Not in Allah..."
9:30 "They Say 'Son of God', May Allah Destroy Them..."
9:38-42 "If You March Not Forth, He Will Punish You With a Painful Torment..."
9:73 (9:88, 9:11) "Strive Hard Against the Unbelievers and Hypocrites and Be Unyielding..."
9:123 "Fight Those of the Unbelievers Who are Near to You..."
18:65-81 "They Proceeded, Till They Met a Boy, Whom He Killed..."
47:4 "When You Meet Those Who Disbelieve, Smite Them at Their Necks..."
47:35 "Be Not Faint-Hearted, Crying for Peace When You Should Be Uppermost..."
61:4 "Surely Allah Loves Those Who Fight in His Way..."
61:9 "He Sent Muhammad to Make Islam Superior over All Other Religion..."
66:9 "Strive Hard Against the Disbelievers and Be Severe Against Them..."

 

[Rigby5]

No matter how many racist rants you have on this forum, you will never convert me to being a racist.

And no mater how much you want it to happen, there have always been non-white people here and there always will be.

Your kind are dying out, the younger generations are less and less racist. That is a good thing.


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Trust me bud...I know your type, you are scared shitless of becoming a realist. Facts and statistics scare the shit out of all PC blinded pussies...that’s all by design. You’ll pretend dark folks are good for America despite all the facts staring you right in the face...they got you nutless fools right where they want you. Good job, you should be proud.

If that's what you bigots truly b'lieve, then why don't you move to a country with no "dark folks?"

“Bigots”?
You think one must be a bigot in order to accept and acknowledge stats and facts?
Do you always hate statistics and facts? Don’t you use such things in your daily routine? The ones related to ethnicity scares the piss out of you huh?
Who taught you that? How does your pussification in this regard benefit you?

Yes, "bigots." Your seething hatred of those not like you reeks in your posts. It's who you are, embrace it. So when are you moving to a country where there are no "dark folks?"

seething hatred of those not like you

Read the Koran if you want to see seething hatred of people not like you.

The Quran is easy to read, and it contains not a single passage promoting hate or unnecessary violence.
It is a bit strict in my opinion, but clearly condemns any theft of murder.
And the proof is that Muslims are not the ones carving up the world into empires.
That is mostly the US now, and used to be Gt. Britain, France. and Spain at one time.

 

[Rigby5]

Divide...divide... divide, Comrade.

That's what YOU do.

Is that why YOU want to divide Americans based on religion, expressly against the U.S. Constitution?

Where does the Constitution say that? You cannot dislike a religion or its followers? You sure as Hell can, it is an individual right.

You are free to like or dislike anything you want, but all people deserve representation, including religions you do not like.
So you can't discriminate against anyone based on their religion.

 

[protectionist]

Thank you for confirming your hatred of the Constitution

Thank you for confirming your ignorance/idiocy.

 

[irosie91]

No doubt middle east cults have run their course and should be banned. All of them. And of course Islam is the worse, but it was let in to the West by Jews and Jews are given a free pass by Evangelical idiots. In theory it is anti Semitic (fake ass buzzword) to criticize Islam since it has been a Jewish project for decades now, to get them into the West.

My hubby was born in a country in which the jewish population of that country had lived for more than a thousand years...
They were a literate people-----there for more than 2500 years----

1,000 or 2,500 years, make up your mind! It is funny that illiterate idiots think the fairy tale 12 tribes of Israel, originally 13 based on the 13 new moons of a lunar year, they, if they ever existed were moon worshippers at one time, were all "jews." The tribes of Judah and Benjamin (actually called different names) were actually at war with Israel half the time when they failed to slaughter neighboring nomads. Yahweh instructed them to be nomads. Which is an interesting philosophical thing. As long as White people made the world safe to be a nomad. Try being a nomad in the middle east or africa today.

2500 years. What does the 12 tribes of Israel have to do with anything
now under discussion. That episode PRECEDES 2500 years ago. The name
Israel refers to Jacob-----and includes all the tribes of the "children of Israel"----
a little confusing for you. 2500 years ago is, approximately 500 BC---about the
time of the Babylonian captivity-----when jews picked up Aramaic ---and moved around in Mesopotamia and local places

The 12 tribes of Israel are important because it shows that Hebrew were originally Moon worshipers.
They did not become monotheistic until they went to Egypt to escape drought.
The whole Yahweh thing came from copying an Egyptian monotheistic cult.

Jews likely did pick up Aramaic around 500 BC and become literate finally, but Hebrew still would not have the beginnings of any written form until another 400 years or so.

But the commandment from God to become nomadic did not happen until 160 AD when the Roman defeated the Jewish rebellion and they destroyed the second temple of Solomon.
Jews are not supposed to return to Jerusalem until atonement for the "sins of pride and arrogance" are done and indicated by the coming of the Messiah. Until then, it is not just sacrilege to try to create Zion on Earth, but an insult to all the ancestors who did try to atone.

rigby-----Not only did I read the Koran more than 50 years ago-----I also have interacted socially and professionally with muslims educated in muslim lands---
AND I have been in mosques. AND my very own husband was born a DHIMMI in a Shariah shit hole -------to a community of jews that had been in THAT land for more than 1000 years BEFORE the rapist dog of mecca was born. His people are
VERY literate-----in both Hebrew and Aramaic. Your problem is that you imagine that all people are like ILLITERATE muslims-----no written history. kinda funny----
your Imam lied again. Written Hebrew goes back more than 4500 years. Arabic became a written language about 1700 years ago. Sanskrit is even OLDER than is written Hebrew

 

[Lastamender]

The Myth:
Jihad simply means 'struggle' and really just refers to a peaceful striving against sin rather than a holy war to spread Islam.

The Truth:
In Arabic "jihad" means struggle. In Islam it means holy war.

Myth: Jihad Means 'Inner Struggle'

 

[irosie91]

Divide...divide... divide, Comrade.

That's what YOU do.

Is that why YOU want to divide Americans based on religion, expressly against the U.S. Constitution?

Where does the Constitution say that? You cannot dislike a religion or its followers? You sure as Hell can, it is an individual right.

You are free to like or dislike anything you want, but all people deserve representation, including religions you do not like.
So you can't discriminate against anyone based on their religion.

can't ? why not------muslims have done it since the time of muhummad

 

[irosie91]

crusade means "for the cross" ie -----doing something good in the name
of the crucified Jesus

 

[protectionist]

You are free to like or dislike anything you want, but all people deserve representation, including religions you do not like.
So you can't discriminate against anyone based on their religion.

But we (by the Constitution) discriminate against Muslims based on their looney supremacist ideology (masquerading as a religion)