No Special Master As DOJ Drops Bombshell 40 Page Ruling Obstruction By Trump Team

Link to the regulation or law requiring paperwork for the president to classify or reclassify documents?

Remember, it must take precedence over the US Constitution.

No, the Security of the Country takes precedence. Illegally handling Classified Material is a threat to the Nation's Safety. The Freedom of Speech is no way threatened, nor is what happened at Shit-A-Lago is NOT Freedom of Speech Issue.
 
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Among the most incriminating details in the government filing is a photograph, showing a number of files labeled “Top Secret” with bright red or yellow cover sheets, spread out over a carpet. Those files were found inside a container in Trump’s office, according to the court filing. A close examination of one of the cover sheets in the photo shows a marking for “HCS,” a government acronym for systems used to protect intelligence gathered from secret human sources.


The 36-page filing also reveals, for the first time, the text of a written assurance given to the Justice Department by Trump’s “custodian of records” on June 3. It says Trump’s team had done a thorough search for any classified material in response to a subpoena and had turned over any relevant documents.

Looking dire.....from your article:

“government records were likely concealed and removed … and that efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government’s investigation.”
Donald J Trump 'likely' committed obstruction of justice? Prove intent.
The filing, for instance, says that when FBI agents and Jay Bratt, the chief of the counterintelligence and export control section at the Justice Department, met with Trump’s two representatives in early June, “the former President’s counsel explicitly prohibited government personnel from opening or looking inside any of the boxes that remained in the storage room, giving no opportunity for the government to confirm that no documents with classification markings remained.”
4th amendment anyone?

Now DOJ is saying 'trust us'....no special master required.
 
I read the Associated Press article on this and this a Holy Shit Moment.

The demand for a Special Master has blown back big time. The D.O.J. has been reviewing documents and it is clear the Traitor illegally handled and/or maintained classified documents.
DOJ saying 'trust us'......LOL
 
Do not read this if you do not want to understand the true story and want to keep your partisan view of everything

Yeah. Let’s review the facts.

The FBI has come under sustained and deserved criticism for the past week due to public pronouncements regarding Hillary Clinton. They demonstrated a blatant double standard by releasing vague but damaging statements about Clinton a few days before an election. Those statements have allowed Clinton's opponents to smear her, but leave her little of substance to rebut. However, the FBI refused to discuss investigations of Donald Trump's shady connections to Russia saying that it's too close to an election.

Now the New York Times is reporting that the FBI's inquiry into the Clinton Foundation was built on discredited reporting by a well-known anti-Clinton hack. The Times writes that the FBI's case:

“had not developed much evidence and was based mostly on information that had surfaced in news stories and the book ‘Clinton Cash,’ according to several law enforcement officials briefed on the case."
Some background is required on the book that the FBI has apparently embraced as the cornerstone of their inquisition. Clinton Cash was published last year as an attempt to connect donations to the Clinton Foundation with the personal finances of the Clintons. The book was harshly criticized for containing numerous factual errors and failing to document its thesis.

For instance, the book alleged that Clinton played a "central role" in approving the sale of a uranium company. It further alleged that she did so in return for a donation to the Clinton Foundation. In fact, the records show that Clinton didn't weigh in on the matter at all. What's more, the sale required the approval of nine different federal agencies, so Clinton's participation would have had minimal impact. The book's author later admitted in an ABC News interview that he had no evidence to substantiate his charge. That's just one of many examples of the author's dishonesty.

And speaking of the author, he is a long-time Republican activist named Peter Schweizer. His resume boasts stints with Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, and George W. Bush. He has a history of making false allegations that often require retractions. One of his previous books was saddled with this audacious and absurd title: "Makers and Takers: Why Conservatives Work Harder, Feel Happier, Have Closer Families, Take Fewer Drugs, Give More Generously, Value Honesty More, Are Less Materialistic And Envious, Whine Less...And Even Hug Their Children More Than Liberals."And...inhale.

Schweizer may seem like a peculiar choice for the FBI to hinge their case on. But wait up - it gets worse. Schweizer is also the president of a conservative "think" tank called the Government Accountability Institute (GAI). The GAI conducts studies that have about the same low level of credibility as Schweizer's books. It's purpose is to stream their poorly-sourced, partisan propaganda into the media. The chairman and founder of GAI is Stephen Bannon. Bannon is currently on leave from his job as chairman of Breitbart News so that he can run Donald Trump's campaign for president.

So in summary, the FBI is basing their Clinton case on a widely debunked book, written by a disreputable Clinton foe, whose boss is a right-wing propagandist, and the CEO of Trump's campaign. You may want to go back and read that sentence again slowly. It describes a severely maladjusted law enforcement agency that is improperly politicizing its work.

And if that weren't enough, recall that the Times also mentioned news reports as among the FBI's sources. Presumably they are referring to reports like the hour-long special Fox News did on Schweizer's book. It's one thing when dimwitted wingnuts fall for malarkey from people like Schweizer and Fox News. But it's much more depressing - and dangerous - when the FBI does it.

 
I don't know if you read it or not, but the FactCheck article is exactly consistent with what I was saying about the deletion of the emails.

The employee for Platte River Networks is the one that deleted the emails AFTER the subpoena. Clinton did tell them to delete the emails, but she did not do so when the emails were under subpoena.

From the article:
In December 2014, after the work-related emails were preserved, Mills told Platte River Networks – which at the time was managing Clinton’s private server – that Clinton “decided she no longer needed access to any of her e-mails older than 60 days.” Mills instructed the PRN employee — who was not identified — “to modify the e-mail retention policy” on Clinton’s server “to reflect this change,” the FBI said.

But the PRN employee mistakenly did not make the retention-policy change and did not delete the old emails until sometime between March 25 and March 31, even though Mills had sent PRN an email on March 9 that mentioned the committee’s request to preserve emails.

The PRN employee who deleted the emails was a recipient of Mills’ message. However, the employee told the FBI that “he had an ‘oh shit’ moment and sometime between March 25-31, 2015 deleted the Clinton archive mailbox from the PRN server and used BleachBit to delete the exported .PST files he had created on the server containing Clinton’s e-mails.”

Mills and Kendall had a conference call with PRN on March 31, 2015, the last day of the time frame given for when the deletions occurred. The FBI doesn’t know what was said at that meeting. The PRN employee responsible for deleting the emails was advised by his lawyer not to discuss his conversation with Kendall based on attorney-client privilege, the FBI said.

Clinton told the FBI that she was not aware that they were deleted in late March 2015. (See pages 17-19 for the FBI’s notes on the deleted emails.) The FBI did not say when Clinton learned when the emails had been deleted.
Boy you sure changed your story but that is fine. Pretend all you want.
 
No, the Security of the Country takes precedence. Illegally handling Classified Material is a threat to the Nation's Safety. The Freedom of Speech is no way threatend, nor is what happened at Shit-A-Lago Freedom of Speech Issue.
Illegally handling classified material? You mean, like Hillary?
 
Trump got his subpoena for all the marked classified documents. He had his lawyers "search" and hand them over, signing a statement that they had done so.

And what do you know? They found more.
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You can't make an excuse that Hillary did this. She didn't. Not even close.
When we're these covers added? Are the covers just there or do they actually cover something? I see they also seized the ultra top secret Time magazine cover. Where was this photo taken?
 
T

he crimes have been proven. The only thing that is left to decide is when the indictments take place.
As usual in your brainless rants, you are wrong. No crime has ever been proven against Trump, unlike your Dimmer masters.
 
Yeah. Let’s review the facts.

The FBI has come under sustained and deserved criticism for the past week due to public pronouncements regarding Hillary Clinton. They demonstrated a blatant double standard by releasing vague but damaging statements about Clinton a few days before an election. Those statements have allowed Clinton's opponents to smear her, but leave her little of substance to rebut. However, the FBI refused to discuss investigations of Donald Trump's shady connections to Russia saying that it's too close to an election.

Now the New York Times is reporting that the FBI's inquiry into the Clinton Foundation was built on discredited reporting by a well-known anti-Clinton hack. The Times writes that the FBI's case:


Some background is required on the book that the FBI has apparently embraced as the cornerstone of their inquisition. Clinton Cash was published last year as an attempt to connect donations to the Clinton Foundation with the personal finances of the Clintons. The book was harshly criticized for containing numerous factual errors and failing to document its thesis.

For instance, the book alleged that Clinton played a "central role" in approving the sale of a uranium company. It further alleged that she did so in return for a donation to the Clinton Foundation. In fact, the records show that Clinton didn't weigh in on the matter at all. What's more, the sale required the approval of nine different federal agencies, so Clinton's participation would have had minimal impact. The book's author later admitted in an ABC News interview that he had no evidence to substantiate his charge. That's just one of many examples of the author's dishonesty.

And speaking of the author, he is a long-time Republican activist named Peter Schweizer. His resume boasts stints with Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, and George W. Bush. He has a history of making false allegations that often require retractions. One of his previous books was saddled with this audacious and absurd title: "Makers and Takers: Why Conservatives Work Harder, Feel Happier, Have Closer Families, Take Fewer Drugs, Give More Generously, Value Honesty More, Are Less Materialistic And Envious, Whine Less...And Even Hug Their Children More Than Liberals."And...inhale.

Schweizer may seem like a peculiar choice for the FBI to hinge their case on. But wait up - it gets worse. Schweizer is also the president of a conservative "think" tank called the Government Accountability Institute (GAI). The GAI conducts studies that have about the same low level of credibility as Schweizer's books. It's purpose is to stream their poorly-sourced, partisan propaganda into the media. The chairman and founder of GAI is Stephen Bannon. Bannon is currently on leave from his job as chairman of Breitbart News so that he can run Donald Trump's campaign for president.

So in summary, the FBI is basing their Clinton case on a widely debunked book, written by a disreputable Clinton foe, whose boss is a right-wing propagandist, and the CEO of Trump's campaign. You may want to go back and read that sentence again slowly. It describes a severely maladjusted law enforcement agency that is improperly politicizing its work.

And if that weren't enough, recall that the Times also mentioned news reports as among the FBI's sources. Presumably they are referring to reports like the hour-long special Fox News did on Schweizer's book. It's one thing when dimwitted wingnuts fall for malarkey from people like Schweizer and Fox News. But it's much more depressing - and dangerous - when the FBI does it.

And again, the proven criminal gets a bye as your blatant TDS makes you forget about who should actually be in jail.
 
Link to the regulation or law requiring paperwork for the president to classify or reclassify documents?

Remember, it must take precedence over the US Constitution.

Can you first show me in the US Constitution where it talks about classified documents?
 
If it didn't, then it never happened.
Nonsense. Unsupported belief by you stated as if it were factual or even correct. It isn’t.

Instead, at the very moment the President says a classified document is declassified, it is. Yep. Even before the markings get changed.
 
Nonsense. Unsupported belief by you stated as if it were factual or even correct. It isn’t.

Instead, at the very moment the President says a classified document is declassified, it is. Yep. Even before the markings get changed.

There has to be some record of it. There are multiple copies of almost every classified document, you cannot just declassify one of them.
 
It would seem that claiming that the documents were delcassified would be something of an affirmative defense.

Meaning Trump has to prove it's the case in order for him to be off the hook.
I'm again impressed that you offer a real argument. Golfing Gator this is how you yourself used to debate before Trump Derangement got the better of you. I hope you'll snap out of it soon.

Two answers:

1) Trump would not have to prove he declassified the documents. He would only need to raise reasonable doubt that they were still classified.

2) that assumes there would ever be a trial. I doubt the DOJ wants a trial. They're not that stupid. I believe that their goal is for Garland to pull a well-timed Comey on Trump by announcing announcing no prosecution after a lengthy recitation of his supposed crimes. That way they can assassinate his character without his having a chance to defend himself.

It was foul when Comey did that to Hillary and Trump was right to fire him for it.
Either way, the Biden administration doesn't seem to believe the documents are actually declassified and is treating them as if they are and always have been classified.
That's their position but I doubt it is what they believe. To a lawyer, that isn't lying, its advocating.
 
There has to be some record of it. There are multiple copies of almost every classified document, you cannot just declassify one of them.
No. There doesn’t “have” to be a record of it. And you have no idea if there are multiple copies or not. Further, if you declassify a classified document, then any copy is also declassified despite the fact that it may not be known to others.

If you limited your commentary to the contention that it’s a sloppy way of proceeding, I agree. But the fact that it wasn’t done in an orderly and logical manner doesn’t imply that it wasn’t done in the first place.
 

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