No, we are NOT building the wall.

[bripat9643]

Wrong. Obamacare hurt the economy big time. For one thing, if you worked 30 hours a week or more, then you were considered a full time employee, and your employer was forced to provide you with insurance. That meant a lot of people worked no more than 29 hours a week. My wife is one of those people. It also forced insurers to provide all kinds of coverage that no one wanted, like coverage for sex change operations or for drug abuse counseling. ACA was the biggest drain on the economy of the Obama administration.

The economy BOOMED under Obamacare

Republicans predicted an economic disaster if Obamacare passed

Boy were they wrong

That's why so many oilfields closed under black jesus and we had record unemployment.

Yeah what was that? longest run of positive job growth in US history?

Sure was.. For Part-Time, LOW WAGE jobs... Why do you liars always omit that part?

Hmm, most don't bring that up because according to

"from the month ACA was enacted in March 2010 to the end of the Obama presidency, full-time employment increased 12.5%, voluntary part-time employment (those who normally seek part-time work) declined 1.0%, and involuntary part-time employment (those who want full-time work but must settle for part-time) declined 35.4%."

FRED Graph | FRED | St. Louis Fed

Supporting graphs pulled from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Care to source your lie?

What part of "the slowest recovery since the Great Depression" didn't you understand?

 

[bripat9643]

Maybe Obama does not have a 10ft wall but the point is that his home is secure. Unlike the border, no one can enter him home and have never entered his home without his permission.
The neighbor explains that the Obamas did add “a couple of feet of retaining wall in front to what was already there.”
They also installed black mesh along the back yard’s retaining wall, for privacy, the neighbor says.

You're ignoring the wrought iron fence on top of the retaining wall, douchebag.

 

[bripat9643]

My company does, #69,693 on the list and it has caught people with fake hiring documents for us. All federal contractors are required to use it (It appears Southern White Houses, and campaign headquarters are exempt).

Is this something new to you? Are you from outside the US maybe?

It's something we've had around for almost 25 years here in the states. In fact as of 12/31/2018 there were 584,917 companies in the US using E-verify. Walmart, Amazon, and Kroger are the top 3 employers in the US. All use it. In fact 9 of the top 10 employers in the US are included in that group.

I live in NYS and know many people who own food oriented businesses and others who own small software companies who use illegals to write programs.
My daughter lives in Florida and almost all building contractors use illegals.
Your honesty is appreciated but is unfortunately rare.

Agree, look at DHS numbers, and Farming and Construction are #1 and #2.

And they aren't willing to give that up. Heck it took the political fallout that Trumps companies hire and retain illegal immigrants to even get him to start using Everify for some of his companies on new hiring only.

Less than 2% of fruit and veggies are now picked by hand.
God knows what these farmers are using these illegals for.

Still a lot of menial labor in farming

Yes there sure is. And as farms grow and grow, the ability to run a family farm without needing outside labor has fallen.

I remember single milk trucks that would hit 3 dairies on their same trip and not bring a full tanker. Now it's all 10 loads from a single farm or more in a day.

In the 90's and 2000's we added all this border security and number of immigrants actually rose despite it being harder and more dangerous to get into the US.

But no politician is going to hurt their base by coming down on farming and construction heavy communities and push a true impactful fining and deportation plan. Instead we get more of the same failed attempts that we've done before. So sad.

You posted a lot of nothing. If illegals weren't in the country willing to work for half the wage, farmers wouldn't be offering half the wage.

 

[RealDave]

The economy BOOMED under Obamacare

Republicans predicted an economic disaster if Obamacare passed

Boy were they wrong

That's why so many oilfields closed under black jesus and we had record unemployment.

Yeah what was that? longest run of positive job growth in US history?

Sure was.. For Part-Time, LOW WAGE jobs... Why do you liars always omit that part?

Hmm, most don't bring that up because according to

"from the month ACA was enacted in March 2010 to the end of the Obama presidency, full-time employment increased 12.5%, voluntary part-time employment (those who normally seek part-time work) declined 1.0%, and involuntary part-time employment (those who want full-time work but must settle for part-time) declined 35.4%."

FRED Graph | FRED | St. Louis Fed

Supporting graphs pulled from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Care to source your lie?

What part of "the slowest recovery since the Great Depression" didn't you understand?

Ummmm, Don't you think that the worst recession ion 80 years would also have the slowest recovery in 80 years.

You fucking asshole.

 

[bripat9643]

I guess you don’t know what goes on in any other part of the country except where you live.
99% of illegals never apply for citizenship in Blue (Sanctuary) States.
In fact, ex-NYC Michael Bloomberg used Illegals instead of union workers for construction projects for years and bragged about it.
Restaurants in NYC and Long Island use illegals and pay cash.
No authorities ever come around to check because the food establishments belong to the local Small Business Authorities and contribute to the local politicians to leave them alone.

You are living in your own Private Idaho.

You will never know how much of an idiot you really are. So, you WANT people that you call names to become citizens, vote and relegate you to the pages of history where you belong?

You might say I am in favor of people living in the US actually being citizens rather than underpaid inter-generational slaves.
You see, I believe that many of these people and their progeny have the potential to be more than vegetable pickers.
You, on the other hand, are a racist who truly feels that Brown people are helpless without your pity.

OMG a wannabe comedian with no jokes.

I think that if labor were to be considered a product of commerce rather than immigration,

That is utterly meaningless. There's nothing worse than ignorant blowhards spouting off on subjects on which they are ignorant.

it would reach a broad spectrum of workers both blue collar and white collar. The free market system also shows (throughout history) that competition is good for wages.

I don't know what world you live in, but the Hispanics I end up hiring are making an average of $23 an hour. They damn sure don't need my pity. But, I still might be a racist. Getting tired of white guys laying on their ass, living off mommy and getting money from Uncle Scam for food when there isn't a damn thing wrong with them.

You obviously don't know shit about economics. Competition between laborers is not good for wages. It drives wages down. Flooding this country with cheap labor is not good for American workers.

Just because you cannot find any meaning in the English language does not make it meaningless. And I agree with you. You definitely are a blowhard spouting off about a subject you don't know jack shit about. That worthless bloviating on your part causes you to talk smack on the Internet that is idiotic and indefensible. So, you resort to name calling while I'll stick to the facts.

Competition is always good for business

5 Reasons Why Competition Is Good For Your Business

https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/sites/.../pages/pdf/FTC-Competition_How-Comp-Works.pdf

Why Competition May Be the Best Thing for Your Business

Forbes disagrees with you; the FTC disagrees with you; Inc.com disagrees with you. So yeah, you are definitely a blowhard that needs to leave these discussions to people that have actually read something about competitive markets.

Furthermore, if foreign labor was treated as a commerce issue you wouldn't have this constant bickering over people allegedly "stealing jobs" (as if the public owns private sector jobs), no arguments about taxes, no "anchor baby" B.S. to squeal over and no threat of having millions of new citizens every year. Since commerce can be regulated, there if little chance that the country would be flooded by foreigners.

If we solved the problems, you wouldn't have a full time position bitching about so - called "illegal immigration." It's apparently your meal ticket so you have an ulterior motive in NOT looking for viable solutions.

"Competition" between whom, moron? You post claims that are out of context, and then believe you have proven something. Note: I said competition between laborers is not good for their wages. It drives wages down. Of course, you couldn't disprove that, so you blathered something idiotic about competition between business.

What the hell does "treating foreign labor as a commerce issue" even mean? The words you use are meaningless in terms of economics.

You spew a series of unrelated incoherent rants, and then believe you've proven something.

 

[bripat9643]

That's why so many oilfields closed under black jesus and we had record unemployment.

Yeah what was that? longest run of positive job growth in US history?

Sure was.. For Part-Time, LOW WAGE jobs... Why do you liars always omit that part?

Hmm, most don't bring that up because according to

"from the month ACA was enacted in March 2010 to the end of the Obama presidency, full-time employment increased 12.5%, voluntary part-time employment (those who normally seek part-time work) declined 1.0%, and involuntary part-time employment (those who want full-time work but must settle for part-time) declined 35.4%."

FRED Graph | FRED | St. Louis Fed

Supporting graphs pulled from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Care to source your lie?

What part of "the slowest recovery since the Great Depression" didn't you understand?

Ummmm, Don't you think that the worst recession ion 80 years would also have the slowest recovery in 80 years.

You fucking asshole.

The only reason it was the worst is the fact that Obama tried to fix it.

 

[RealDave]

No Trump's wall is not being built. You people are dumber than shit.

It's being built as you lie.

Prove it. Show me that 40' concrete wall.

Even your request is sheathed in a lie. But you forget, you don't accept proof.

So you don't have any.

You don't accept proof, you prove it all the time.

Fuck you Mikey. You got no proof because the Wall is not being built.

 

[RealDave]

Yeah what was that? longest run of positive job growth in US history?

Sure was.. For Part-Time, LOW WAGE jobs... Why do you liars always omit that part?

Hmm, most don't bring that up because according to

"from the month ACA was enacted in March 2010 to the end of the Obama presidency, full-time employment increased 12.5%, voluntary part-time employment (those who normally seek part-time work) declined 1.0%, and involuntary part-time employment (those who want full-time work but must settle for part-time) declined 35.4%."

FRED Graph | FRED | St. Louis Fed

Supporting graphs pulled from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Care to source your lie?

What part of "the slowest recovery since the Great Depression" didn't you understand?

Ummmm, Don't you think that the worst recession ion 80 years would also have the slowest recovery in 80 years.

You fucking asshole.

The only reason it was the worst is the fact that Obama tried to fix it.

The recession started 4th quarter of 2007.

It was trheworst because of George W Bush & your Republican Party.

 

[bripat9643]

You will never know how much of an idiot you really are. So, you WANT people that you call names to become citizens, vote and relegate you to the pages of history where you belong?

You might say I am in favor of people living in the US actually being citizens rather than underpaid inter-generational slaves.
You see, I believe that many of these people and their progeny have the potential to be more than vegetable pickers.
You, on the other hand, are a racist who truly feels that Brown people are helpless without your pity.

OMG a wannabe comedian with no jokes.

I think that if labor were to be considered a product of commerce rather than immigration,

That is utterly meaningless. There's nothing worse than ignorant blowhards spouting off on subjects on which they are ignorant.

it would reach a broad spectrum of workers both blue collar and white collar. The free market system also shows (throughout history) that competition is good for wages.

I don't know what world you live in, but the Hispanics I end up hiring are making an average of $23 an hour. They damn sure don't need my pity. But, I still might be a racist. Getting tired of white guys laying on their ass, living off mommy and getting money from Uncle Scam for food when there isn't a damn thing wrong with them.

You obviously don't know shit about economics. Competition between laborers is not good for wages. It drives wages down. Flooding this country with cheap labor is not good for American workers.

Just because you cannot find any meaning in the English language does not make it meaningless. And I agree with you. You definitely are a blowhard spouting off about a subject you don't know jack shit about. That worthless bloviating on your part causes you to talk smack on the Internet that is idiotic and indefensible. So, you resort to name calling while I'll stick to the facts.

Competition is always good for business

5 Reasons Why Competition Is Good For Your Business

https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/sites/.../pages/pdf/FTC-Competition_How-Comp-Works.pdf

Why Competition May Be the Best Thing for Your Business

Forbes disagrees with you; the FTC disagrees with you; Inc.com disagrees with you. So yeah, you are definitely a blowhard that needs to leave these discussions to people that have actually read something about competitive markets.

Furthermore, if foreign labor was treated as a commerce issue you wouldn't have this constant bickering over people allegedly "stealing jobs" (as if the public owns private sector jobs), no arguments about taxes, no "anchor baby" B.S. to squeal over and no threat of having millions of new citizens every year. Since commerce can be regulated, there if little chance that the country would be flooded by foreigners.

If we solved the problems, you wouldn't have a full time position bitching about so - called "illegal immigration." It's apparently your meal ticket so you have an ulterior motive in NOT looking for viable solutions.

I am cracking up at the guy saying competition between

You will never know how much of an idiot you really are. So, you WANT people that you call names to become citizens, vote and relegate you to the pages of history where you belong?

You might say I am in favor of people living in the US actually being citizens rather than underpaid inter-generational slaves.
You see, I believe that many of these people and their progeny have the potential to be more than vegetable pickers.
You, on the other hand, are a racist who truly feels that Brown people are helpless without your pity.

OMG a wannabe comedian with no jokes.

I think that if labor were to be considered a product of commerce rather than immigration, it would reach a broad spectrum of workers both blue collar and white collar. The free market system also shows (throughout history) that competition is good for wages.

I don't know what world you live in, but the Hispanics I end up hiring are making an average of $23 an hour. They damn sure don't need my pity. But, I still might be a racist. Getting tired of white guys laying on their ass, living off mommy and getting money from Uncle Scam for food when there isn't a damn thing wrong with them.

Cool story...
Illegals in NY ain’t making $23.00/hour.
And in NY it’s the African Americans sitting on the porches.

The American people don't want to work. Passing it off on people you don't like and calling those people "illegals" hasn't been very productive for your side over the past two decades. I can't speak to New York's issues which is why the whole subject of Guest Workers needs to remain a STATE issue.

IF the African Americans where you live don't have a job, the picking season is coming up. Employers here pay $11 an hour PLUS room and board. They can work here for four months picking fruit and vegetables and go to the next job or use their money to get an education or maybe invest in starting their own business.

If you're in America and you don't have a job, you either don't want one OR you got locked out of the market by the dip wads that obsess over a freaking wall.

I would agree. Took a look with our local dept of labor here, and 10 years ago there were 10 applicants per job opening. Now that number is 0.5. I'm working on a multi-million dollar wage adjustment just to get bodies in the door and two of the other 5 major employers in the area I've used for a comparison are doing the same this year, as two others did last year.

If you want a job, they are there. Sure you might not get the job you want while living in the exact place you want. You might struggle working in downtown San fran with no degree and wanting to live in walking distance to work.

At times I truly wish we did not have E-verify, because there are times when an interview just hits the candidate you are looking for. Then comes back the results and you have to pass and keep looking when the people just aren't there.

What's your point, idiot, that low wages are good for business?

 

[bripat9643]

Sure was.. For Part-Time, LOW WAGE jobs... Why do you liars always omit that part?

Hmm, most don't bring that up because according to

"from the month ACA was enacted in March 2010 to the end of the Obama presidency, full-time employment increased 12.5%, voluntary part-time employment (those who normally seek part-time work) declined 1.0%, and involuntary part-time employment (those who want full-time work but must settle for part-time) declined 35.4%."

FRED Graph | FRED | St. Louis Fed

Supporting graphs pulled from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Care to source your lie?

What part of "the slowest recovery since the Great Depression" didn't you understand?

Ummmm, Don't you think that the worst recession ion 80 years would also have the slowest recovery in 80 years.

You fucking asshole.

The only reason it was the worst is the fact that Obama tried to fix it.

The recession started 4th quarter of 2007.

It was trheworst because of George W Bush & your Republican Party.

When it started doesn't determine how bad it was. How long it lasted determines that, and Obama is the one who was in office the entire time.

 

[Faun]

And the number of people Obama forced onto welfare... Is Stunning...

5.7 million employed people were removed from the work force due to your socialist constructs.. They went on to the hand out rolls.. And you Idiots celebrated this..

Yeah, it’s Obama’s fault people get old and retire.

 

[Faun]

Yeah what was that? longest run of positive job growth in US history?

Sure was.. For Part-Time, LOW WAGE jobs... Why do you liars always omit that part?

Hmm, most don't bring that up because according to

"from the month ACA was enacted in March 2010 to the end of the Obama presidency, full-time employment increased 12.5%, voluntary part-time employment (those who normally seek part-time work) declined 1.0%, and involuntary part-time employment (those who want full-time work but must settle for part-time) declined 35.4%."

FRED Graph | FRED | St. Louis Fed

Supporting graphs pulled from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Care to source your lie?

What part of "the slowest recovery since the Great Depression" didn't you understand?

Ummmm, Don't you think that the worst recession ion 80 years would also have the slowest recovery in 80 years.

You fucking asshole.

The only reason it was the worst is the fact that Obama tried to fix it.

Fucking moron, the deeper hole you dig yourself into, the longer it takes you to climb out.

 

[LilOlLady]

Maybe Obama does not have a 10ft wall but the point is that his home is secure. Unlike the border, no one can enter him home and have never entered his home without his permission.
The neighbor explains that the Obamas did add “a couple of feet of retaining wall in front to what was already there.”
They also installed black mesh along the back yard’s retaining wall, for privacy, the neighbor says.

You're ignoring the wrought iron fence on top of the retaining wall, douchebag.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You will never know how much of an idiot you really are. So, you WANT people that you call names to become citizens, vote and relegate you to the pages of history where you belong?

You might say I am in favor of people living in the US actually being citizens rather than underpaid inter-generational slaves.
You see, I believe that many of these people and their progeny have the potential to be more than vegetable pickers.
You, on the other hand, are a racist who truly feels that Brown people are helpless without your pity.

OMG a wannabe comedian with no jokes.

I think that if labor were to be considered a product of commerce rather than immigration, it would reach a broad spectrum of workers both blue collar and white collar. The free market system also shows (throughout history) that competition is good for wages.

I don't know what world you live in, but the Hispanics I end up hiring are making an average of $23 an hour. They damn sure don't need my pity. But, I still might be a racist. Getting tired of white guys laying on their ass, living off mommy and getting money from Uncle Scam for food when there isn't a damn thing wrong with them.

Cool story...
Illegals in NY ain’t making $23.00/hour.
And in NY it’s the African Americans sitting on the porches.

The American people don't want to work. Passing it off on people you don't like and calling those people "illegals" hasn't been very productive for your side over the past two decades. I can't speak to New York's issues which is why the whole subject of Guest Workers needs to remain a STATE issue.

IF the African Americans where you live don't have a job, the picking season is coming up. Employers here pay $11 an hour PLUS room and board. They can work here for four months picking fruit and vegetables and go to the next job or use their money to get an education or maybe invest in starting their own business.

If you're in America and you don't have a job, you either don't want one OR you got locked out of the market by the dip wads that obsess over a freaking wall.

Americans don't want to work, priceless.

Instead of pretending why don't you invest some time and come down and see for yourself.

A local newsman was here one year. More than 100 jobs were posted on Craigslist, the local paper and with the state employment department for fruit pickers - $11 an hour plus room and board. FOUR Americans showed up and two of those did not last a half a day.

Come to my neighborhood. I'll show you at least a hundred people in MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD of white guys 20 and above that don't want to work and will NOT work. Priceless my ass. You just spew shit because the truth hurts.

 

[bripat9643]

You might say I am in favor of people living in the US actually being citizens rather than underpaid inter-generational slaves.
You see, I believe that many of these people and their progeny have the potential to be more than vegetable pickers.
You, on the other hand, are a racist who truly feels that Brown people are helpless without your pity.

OMG a wannabe comedian with no jokes.

I think that if labor were to be considered a product of commerce rather than immigration, it would reach a broad spectrum of workers both blue collar and white collar. The free market system also shows (throughout history) that competition is good for wages.

I don't know what world you live in, but the Hispanics I end up hiring are making an average of $23 an hour. They damn sure don't need my pity. But, I still might be a racist. Getting tired of white guys laying on their ass, living off mommy and getting money from Uncle Scam for food when there isn't a damn thing wrong with them.

Cool story...
Illegals in NY ain’t making $23.00/hour.
And in NY it’s the African Americans sitting on the porches.

The American people don't want to work. Passing it off on people you don't like and calling those people "illegals" hasn't been very productive for your side over the past two decades. I can't speak to New York's issues which is why the whole subject of Guest Workers needs to remain a STATE issue.

IF the African Americans where you live don't have a job, the picking season is coming up. Employers here pay $11 an hour PLUS room and board. They can work here for four months picking fruit and vegetables and go to the next job or use their money to get an education or maybe invest in starting their own business.

If you're in America and you don't have a job, you either don't want one OR you got locked out of the market by the dip wads that obsess over a freaking wall.

Americans don't want to work, priceless.

Instead of pretending why don't you invest some time and come down and see for yourself.

A local newsman was here one year. More than 100 jobs were posted on Craigslist, the local paper and with the state employment department for fruit pickers - $11 an hour plus room and board. FOUR Americans showed up and two of those did not last a half a day.

Come to my neighborhood. I'll show you at least a hundred people in MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD of white guys 20 and above that don't want to work and will NOT work. Priceless my ass. You just spew shit because the truth hurts.

I don't believe a word of that.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You will never know how much of an idiot you really are. So, you WANT people that you call names to become citizens, vote and relegate you to the pages of history where you belong?

You might say I am in favor of people living in the US actually being citizens rather than underpaid inter-generational slaves.
You see, I believe that many of these people and their progeny have the potential to be more than vegetable pickers.
You, on the other hand, are a racist who truly feels that Brown people are helpless without your pity.

OMG a wannabe comedian with no jokes.

I think that if labor were to be considered a product of commerce rather than immigration,

That is utterly meaningless. There's nothing worse than ignorant blowhards spouting off on subjects on which they are ignorant.

it would reach a broad spectrum of workers both blue collar and white collar. The free market system also shows (throughout history) that competition is good for wages.

I don't know what world you live in, but the Hispanics I end up hiring are making an average of $23 an hour. They damn sure don't need my pity. But, I still might be a racist. Getting tired of white guys laying on their ass, living off mommy and getting money from Uncle Scam for food when there isn't a damn thing wrong with them.

You obviously don't know shit about economics. Competition between laborers is not good for wages. It drives wages down. Flooding this country with cheap labor is not good for American workers.

Just because you cannot find any meaning in the English language does not make it meaningless. And I agree with you. You definitely are a blowhard spouting off about a subject you don't know jack shit about. That worthless bloviating on your part causes you to talk smack on the Internet that is idiotic and indefensible. So, you resort to name calling while I'll stick to the facts.

Competition is always good for business

5 Reasons Why Competition Is Good For Your Business

https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/sites/.../pages/pdf/FTC-Competition_How-Comp-Works.pdf

Why Competition May Be the Best Thing for Your Business

Forbes disagrees with you; the FTC disagrees with you; Inc.com disagrees with you. So yeah, you are definitely a blowhard that needs to leave these discussions to people that have actually read something about competitive markets.

Furthermore, if foreign labor was treated as a commerce issue you wouldn't have this constant bickering over people allegedly "stealing jobs" (as if the public owns private sector jobs), no arguments about taxes, no "anchor baby" B.S. to squeal over and no threat of having millions of new citizens every year. Since commerce can be regulated, there if little chance that the country would be flooded by foreigners.

If we solved the problems, you wouldn't have a full time position bitching about so - called "illegal immigration." It's apparently your meal ticket so you have an ulterior motive in NOT looking for viable solutions.

I am cracking up at the guy saying competition between

You will never know how much of an idiot you really are. So, you WANT people that you call names to become citizens, vote and relegate you to the pages of history where you belong?

You might say I am in favor of people living in the US actually being citizens rather than underpaid inter-generational slaves.
You see, I believe that many of these people and their progeny have the potential to be more than vegetable pickers.
You, on the other hand, are a racist who truly feels that Brown people are helpless without your pity.

OMG a wannabe comedian with no jokes.

I think that if labor were to be considered a product of commerce rather than immigration, it would reach a broad spectrum of workers both blue collar and white collar. The free market system also shows (throughout history) that competition is good for wages.

I don't know what world you live in, but the Hispanics I end up hiring are making an average of $23 an hour. They damn sure don't need my pity. But, I still might be a racist. Getting tired of white guys laying on their ass, living off mommy and getting money from Uncle Scam for food when there isn't a damn thing wrong with them.

Cool story...
Illegals in NY ain’t making $23.00/hour.
And in NY it’s the African Americans sitting on the porches.

The American people don't want to work. Passing it off on people you don't like and calling those people "illegals" hasn't been very productive for your side over the past two decades. I can't speak to New York's issues which is why the whole subject of Guest Workers needs to remain a STATE issue.

IF the African Americans where you live don't have a job, the picking season is coming up. Employers here pay $11 an hour PLUS room and board. They can work here for four months picking fruit and vegetables and go to the next job or use their money to get an education or maybe invest in starting their own business.

If you're in America and you don't have a job, you either don't want one OR you got locked out of the market by the dip wads that obsess over a freaking wall.

I would agree. Took a look with our local dept of labor here, and 10 years ago there were 10 applicants per job opening. Now that number is 0.5. I'm working on a multi-million dollar wage adjustment just to get bodies in the door and two of the other 5 major employers in the area I've used for a comparison are doing the same this year, as two others did last year.

If you want a job, they are there. Sure you might not get the job you want while living in the exact place you want. You might struggle working in downtown San fran with no degree and wanting to live in walking distance to work.

At times I truly wish we did not have E-verify, because there are times when an interview just hits the candidate you are looking for. Then comes back the results and you have to pass and keep looking when the people just aren't there.

If you want to hire someone, have them fill out a paper application in their own handwriting. Meet them in person, shake their hand, and maybe ask for a couple of local references.

Anybody can hire a pro to get your resume noticed. E-Verify and background checks only tell you what Uncle Scam wants you to know.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

OMG a wannabe comedian with no jokes.

I think that if labor were to be considered a product of commerce rather than immigration, it would reach a broad spectrum of workers both blue collar and white collar. The free market system also shows (throughout history) that competition is good for wages.

I don't know what world you live in, but the Hispanics I end up hiring are making an average of $23 an hour. They damn sure don't need my pity. But, I still might be a racist. Getting tired of white guys laying on their ass, living off mommy and getting money from Uncle Scam for food when there isn't a damn thing wrong with them.

Cool story...
Illegals in NY ain’t making $23.00/hour.
And in NY it’s the African Americans sitting on the porches.

The American people don't want to work. Passing it off on people you don't like and calling those people "illegals" hasn't been very productive for your side over the past two decades. I can't speak to New York's issues which is why the whole subject of Guest Workers needs to remain a STATE issue.

IF the African Americans where you live don't have a job, the picking season is coming up. Employers here pay $11 an hour PLUS room and board. They can work here for four months picking fruit and vegetables and go to the next job or use their money to get an education or maybe invest in starting their own business.

If you're in America and you don't have a job, you either don't want one OR you got locked out of the market by the dip wads that obsess over a freaking wall.

Americans don't want to work, priceless.

Certain jobs absolutely.

Listen to ANY farmer. Ag labor is one of the highest rising wages in the US, (50% increase in 15 years) and they still can't get American's to take those jobs. They've got ones trying anything, offering 401k's, paid vacations, and guess what they are left with showing up? 9 in 10 foreign born and over half not legal.

Farmers are people; they love cheap slave labor.

And you buy all your necessities from the most expensive places in town? News flash - the cut rate stores and low prices are possible because nobody pays blue collar workers a surgeon's wages.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You will never know how much of an idiot you really are. So, you WANT people that you call names to become citizens, vote and relegate you to the pages of history where you belong?

You might say I am in favor of people living in the US actually being citizens rather than underpaid inter-generational slaves.
You see, I believe that many of these people and their progeny have the potential to be more than vegetable pickers.
You, on the other hand, are a racist who truly feels that Brown people are helpless without your pity.

OMG a wannabe comedian with no jokes.

I think that if labor were to be considered a product of commerce rather than immigration,

That is utterly meaningless. There's nothing worse than ignorant blowhards spouting off on subjects on which they are ignorant.

it would reach a broad spectrum of workers both blue collar and white collar. The free market system also shows (throughout history) that competition is good for wages.

I don't know what world you live in, but the Hispanics I end up hiring are making an average of $23 an hour. They damn sure don't need my pity. But, I still might be a racist. Getting tired of white guys laying on their ass, living off mommy and getting money from Uncle Scam for food when there isn't a damn thing wrong with them.

You obviously don't know shit about economics. Competition between laborers is not good for wages. It drives wages down. Flooding this country with cheap labor is not good for American workers.

Just because you cannot find any meaning in the English language does not make it meaningless. And I agree with you. You definitely are a blowhard spouting off about a subject you don't know jack shit about. That worthless bloviating on your part causes you to talk smack on the Internet that is idiotic and indefensible. So, you resort to name calling while I'll stick to the facts.

Competition is always good for business

5 Reasons Why Competition Is Good For Your Business

https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/sites/.../pages/pdf/FTC-Competition_How-Comp-Works.pdf

Why Competition May Be the Best Thing for Your Business

Forbes disagrees with you; the FTC disagrees with you; Inc.com disagrees with you. So yeah, you are definitely a blowhard that needs to leave these discussions to people that have actually read something about competitive markets.

Furthermore, if foreign labor was treated as a commerce issue you wouldn't have this constant bickering over people allegedly "stealing jobs" (as if the public owns private sector jobs), no arguments about taxes, no "anchor baby" B.S. to squeal over and no threat of having millions of new citizens every year. Since commerce can be regulated, there if little chance that the country would be flooded by foreigners.

If we solved the problems, you wouldn't have a full time position bitching about so - called "illegal immigration." It's apparently your meal ticket so you have an ulterior motive in NOT looking for viable solutions.

"Competition" between whom, moron? You post claims that are out of context, and then believe you have proven something. Note: I said competition between laborers is not good for their wages. It drives wages down. Of course, you couldn't disprove that, so you blathered something idiotic about competition between business.

What the hell does "treating foreign labor as a commerce issue" even mean? The words you use are meaningless in terms of economics.

You spew a series of unrelated incoherent rants, and then believe you've proven something.

You lack of the economics of your own country is not anyone's fault on this forum except YOURS. You don't understand concepts such as business being composed of labor so you call others moron?

You are the most uneducated dumb fuck on this board.

 

[bripat9643]

You might say I am in favor of people living in the US actually being citizens rather than underpaid inter-generational slaves.
You see, I believe that many of these people and their progeny have the potential to be more than vegetable pickers.
You, on the other hand, are a racist who truly feels that Brown people are helpless without your pity.

OMG a wannabe comedian with no jokes.

I think that if labor were to be considered a product of commerce rather than immigration,

That is utterly meaningless. There's nothing worse than ignorant blowhards spouting off on subjects on which they are ignorant.

it would reach a broad spectrum of workers both blue collar and white collar. The free market system also shows (throughout history) that competition is good for wages.

I don't know what world you live in, but the Hispanics I end up hiring are making an average of $23 an hour. They damn sure don't need my pity. But, I still might be a racist. Getting tired of white guys laying on their ass, living off mommy and getting money from Uncle Scam for food when there isn't a damn thing wrong with them.

You obviously don't know shit about economics. Competition between laborers is not good for wages. It drives wages down. Flooding this country with cheap labor is not good for American workers.

Just because you cannot find any meaning in the English language does not make it meaningless. And I agree with you. You definitely are a blowhard spouting off about a subject you don't know jack shit about. That worthless bloviating on your part causes you to talk smack on the Internet that is idiotic and indefensible. So, you resort to name calling while I'll stick to the facts.

Competition is always good for business

5 Reasons Why Competition Is Good For Your Business

https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/sites/.../pages/pdf/FTC-Competition_How-Comp-Works.pdf

Why Competition May Be the Best Thing for Your Business

Forbes disagrees with you; the FTC disagrees with you; Inc.com disagrees with you. So yeah, you are definitely a blowhard that needs to leave these discussions to people that have actually read something about competitive markets.

Furthermore, if foreign labor was treated as a commerce issue you wouldn't have this constant bickering over people allegedly "stealing jobs" (as if the public owns private sector jobs), no arguments about taxes, no "anchor baby" B.S. to squeal over and no threat of having millions of new citizens every year. Since commerce can be regulated, there if little chance that the country would be flooded by foreigners.

If we solved the problems, you wouldn't have a full time position bitching about so - called "illegal immigration." It's apparently your meal ticket so you have an ulterior motive in NOT looking for viable solutions.

"Competition" between whom, moron? You post claims that are out of context, and then believe you have proven something. Note: I said competition between laborers is not good for their wages. It drives wages down. Of course, you couldn't disprove that, so you blathered something idiotic about competition between business.

What the hell does "treating foreign labor as a commerce issue" even mean? The words you use are meaningless in terms of economics.

You spew a series of unrelated incoherent rants, and then believe you've proven something.

You lack of the economics of your own country is not anyone's fault on this forum except YOURS. You don't understand concepts such as business being composed of labor so you call others moron?

You are the most uneducated dumb fuck on this board.

"Businesses are composed of labor?" Once again you post a complete absurdity. No, businesses are not composed solely of labor.

 

[LilOlLady]

You might say I am in favor of people living in the US actually being citizens rather than underpaid inter-generational slaves.
You see, I believe that many of these people and their progeny have the potential to be more than vegetable pickers.
You, on the other hand, are a racist who truly feels that Brown people are helpless without your pity.

OMG a wannabe comedian with no jokes.

I think that if labor were to be considered a product of commerce rather than immigration, it would reach a broad spectrum of workers both blue collar and white collar. The free market system also shows (throughout history) that competition is good for wages.

I don't know what world you live in, but the Hispanics I end up hiring are making an average of $23 an hour. They damn sure don't need my pity. But, I still might be a racist. Getting tired of white guys laying on their ass, living off mommy and getting money from Uncle Scam for food when there isn't a damn thing wrong with them.

Cool story...
Illegals in NY ain’t making $23.00/hour.
And in NY it’s the African Americans sitting on the porches.

The American people don't want to work. Passing it off on people you don't like and calling those people "illegals" hasn't been very productive for your side over the past two decades. I can't speak to New York's issues which is why the whole subject of Guest Workers needs to remain a STATE issue.

IF the African Americans where you live don't have a job, the picking season is coming up. Employers here pay $11 an hour PLUS room and board. They can work here for four months picking fruit and vegetables and go to the next job or use their money to get an education or maybe invest in starting their own business.

If you're in America and you don't have a job, you either don't want one OR you got locked out of the market by the dip wads that obsess over a freaking wall.

Americans don't want to work, priceless.

Instead of pretending why don't you invest some time and come down and see for yourself.

A local newsman was here one year. More than 100 jobs were posted on Craigslist, the local paper and with the state employment department for fruit pickers - $11 an hour plus room and board. FOUR Americans showed up and two of those did not last a half a day.

Come to my neighborhood. I'll show you at least a hundred people in MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD of white guys 20 and above that don't want to work and will NOT work. Priceless my ass. You just spew shit because the truth hurts.

No, enforcing immigration law won’t ruin farming. Most illegals do not work in agriculture — only about 4 percent of the illegal-immigrant population is employed in farming. In no state is farming the predominant occupation of illegal immigrants; even in places such as California, where labor-intensive fruit-and-vegetable farming attracts a relatively large illegal workforce, the main occupations of illegals are in hospitality (restaurants and hotels), services, and transportation. Americans already do three out of four farm jobs, and if there were no illegals doing the others, they might very well do those, too — but probably not at the wages that have prevailed among illegal workers. Again: So, what? Some of my dearest friends are criminals, but if your business model is such that you cannot turn a profit without violating federal law — and not some obscure, rococo EPA regulation but just regular old immigration law — then my heart does not bleed for you.