Nobody doubts the M4 is an assault weapon. Are there any material differences between an M4 and an AR15?

[BULLDOG]

It's amusing to see how hard you are trying. No, I don't call my bathroom the Latrine or the Head, but I am aware that those are accepted terms that generally share the same definition. If someone does use those terms, I know what they are talking about. Does this have anything to do with the absurd claim that the term Assault Rifle is undefined?

.

You must be an idiot then, because it wasn't that hard to start with.
You are also the one saying that "we can all agree" what you want to call something is what it is, because the military calls it that.

But what we are talking about isn't an assault weapon as it is defined under current law.
I just like watching you crawfish all over the place acting like you might know what the fuck you are talking about.

You can call it whatever you want, but no one should be compelled to agree with your ass.

.​

The M4 most certainly is an assault rifle. It was unfortunate that I used the wrong term in the title. That is a mistake that I acknowledged early in the conversation. (somewhere around #40 or #41) I should have used assault rifle, but as I noted in the acknowledgment I didn't know how to edit the title at that point.

According to the Defense Intelligence Agency, “assault rifles” are “short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between a submachine gun and rifle cartridges.” All assault rifles are capable of automatic fire.

You are certainly free to use your own definitions if you would like, but your definition might not be as widely accepted as the military Defense Intelligence Agency definitions. You can call a squirrel a fluffy tail tree rat if you want to. I don't care.

it doesnt matter cause that type of weapon is covered by the 2nd A,,

That's nice. I guess. Still has nothing to do with this thread though.

we still dont know what this thread is about,,,

I understand. Stupid people often have trouble with all but the simplest threads. Keep trying though.

here's the deal you stop making ignorant trollish threads and you will not be viewed as stupid.

Here's the deal. Fuck you.

 

[Blues Man]

This GOTCHA attempt is so lame, we need to call in a veterinarian and have it put down.

It's an honest question. All I want is an honest answer.

Lots of people doubt its an assault rifle so the entire thread is pointless.

There are always people who live in their own little world, but if disagree with our military's definition, you're pretty much an idiot.

Like you who thinks that it's soooooo easy to modify an AR 15 into a fully automatic weapon even though no one ever seems to use modified AR 15s to commit crimes

Perhaps it would be beyond your ability to fabricate one small part, and purchase the rest. That wouldn't be a big hurdle for many.

Then tell me why we don't see people using modified Ar 15s to commit crimes.

You say all this shit but you have no proof that people are actually modifying their ARs

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Auto fire from rifleman is for final fire in an emergency usually when being assaulted and the enemy has closed to danger close, as in in threat of being over run.

Yes. Rarely used.

which has nothing to do with the fact it has the ability and the AR15 does not making them critically different, there is no difference between an AR15 and any other semi automatic rifle especially those with detachable magazines.

Amusing but not surprising that after 400 posts, so many are struggling with the question in the OP, and the purpose of the thread. I'll type slowly so it will be easier for you to understand.

We all know the M4 is capable of select fire. We also know the AR15 is not.
Are there any other significant (that means big) differences between the two rifles?

I guess youre to stupid to know thats the only difference,,

now why did it matter??

I assumed as much from the beginning. I just wanted to know how gun nuts would respond to the question.

so this whole thread was a troll and should have been in the rubber room,,

It was a straight forward question. I didn't make you look like fools by babbling about everything but the subject. You did that all on your own.

IM GONNA ASK A QUESTION AND I WILL ONLY ACCEPT ONE ANWSER AND IF U DONT GIVE IT TO ME UR DUMB

That's funny. The closest thing I got to an answer to the question was barrel length, but you can get just about any barrel length for both of them. The 2nd isn't an answer to the question, and state laws isn't an answer either.

An Actual M4 has a set barrel length and it is shorter then the M16A2 it is also shorter then the AR-15, there are of course special builds but then they are custom and not normal BUT an M4 or M16A2 by definition has a set barrel length other wise they would not call the M4 the M4 it would just be a shorter length M16A2.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The M4 is the main rifle used by the US military, and no one could question that it is an assault rifle. The M4 is capable of full automatic fire, and 3 round burst, and the AR15 is not. Of course, it would be illegal, but the AR15 can easily be converted to allow those types of fire. Other than that difference, what makes an M4 an assault weapon, and an AR15 not?

Another Democrat spewing Hitler's propaganda.

The M4 is a carbine rifle, not an "assault rifle". "Assault rifle" is just a ridiculous term that the Nazi's made up out of thin air when they renamed the MP 43 to make it sound scary for propaganda purposes.

Only Nazis call any rifle an "assault rifle".

Our military and the NRA disagree with you

NRA-ILA | Glossary

For definitions of key words related to firearms and the 2nd amendment check out this page.

www.nraila.org

You didn't read far enough.

• Assault Rifle
  By U.S. Army definition, a selective-fire rifle chambered for a cartridge of intermediate power. If applied to any semi-automatic firearm regardless of its cosmetic similarity to a true assault rifle, the term is incorrect.

I read the entire thing. You agree the M4 is an assault rifle though, like I said in the OP --- right?

Yes. But the AR-15 is not. By the definition you cited.

Looks like this thread is over.

I never said the AR was. I did say that other than the multi-fire capability, there were no substantial differences in the two. That is, unless you can name those substantial differences.

Again -- I have no obligation to defend a claim I didn't make.

I don't know what's so hard about that to understand.

OK. Since you can't point out any fault in this OP, I assume we are in agreement.

Are you still trying to hide that you want the AR banned because "there's no substantial differences between the two"?

Because the semi-auto and full-auto thing is a substantial difference.

Yes, it is a substantial difference that everybody is aware of. That's why I excluded it from the discussion. I'm trying to find any other substantial differences that might exist. You know of any?.

Yes. AR-15s are substantially cheaper to own for people who want one. Owning one (or a hundred) isn't regulated like owning a select-fire weapon is.

Thread's over. You need to accept it.

Yes. Do you have anything other than auto-fire capability, which was noted in the OP (post #1) to add?

Oh, look. You're not accepting that this thread is over. Imagine my surprise.

It would have been over long ago if you idiots hadn't kept it going. Is someone forcing you to keep posting?

dude your thread was dead before you were born 1792

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It's amusing to see how hard you are trying. No, I don't call my bathroom the Latrine or the Head, but I am aware that those are accepted terms that generally share the same definition. If someone does use those terms, I know what they are talking about. Does this have anything to do with the absurd claim that the term Assault Rifle is undefined?

.

You must be an idiot then, because it wasn't that hard to start with.
You are also the one saying that "we can all agree" what you want to call something is what it is, because the military calls it that.

But what we are talking about isn't an assault weapon as it is defined under current law.
I just like watching you crawfish all over the place acting like you might know what the fuck you are talking about.

You can call it whatever you want, but no one should be compelled to agree with your ass.

.​

The M4 most certainly is an assault rifle. It was unfortunate that I used the wrong term in the title. That is a mistake that I acknowledged early in the conversation. (somewhere around #40 or #41) I should have used assault rifle, but as I noted in the acknowledgment I didn't know how to edit the title at that point.

According to the Defense Intelligence Agency, “assault rifles” are “short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between a submachine gun and rifle cartridges.” All assault rifles are capable of automatic fire.

You are certainly free to use your own definitions if you would like, but your definition might not be as widely accepted as the military Defense Intelligence Agency definitions. You can call a squirrel a fluffy tail tree rat if you want to. I don't care.

it doesnt matter cause that type of weapon is covered by the 2nd A,,

That's nice. I guess. Still has nothing to do with this thread though.

we still dont know what this thread is about,,,

I understand. Stupid people often have trouble with all but the simplest threads. Keep trying though.

here's the deal you stop making ignorant trollish threads and you will not be viewed as stupid.

Here's the deal. Fuck you.

Your thread was created to troll do I hear trigger galloping in?

 

[Canon Shooter]

It's amusing to see how hard you are trying. No, I don't call my bathroom the Latrine or the Head, but I am aware that those are accepted terms that generally share the same definition. If someone does use those terms, I know what they are talking about. Does this have anything to do with the absurd claim that the term Assault Rifle is undefined?

.

You must be an idiot then, because it wasn't that hard to start with.
You are also the one saying that "we can all agree" what you want to call something is what it is, because the military calls it that.

But what we are talking about isn't an assault weapon as it is defined under current law.
I just like watching you crawfish all over the place acting like you might know what the fuck you are talking about.

You can call it whatever you want, but no one should be compelled to agree with your ass.

.​

The M4 most certainly is an assault rifle. It was unfortunate that I used the wrong term in the title. That is a mistake that I acknowledged early in the conversation. (somewhere around #40 or #41) I should have used assault rifle, but as I noted in the acknowledgment I didn't know how to edit the title at that point.

According to the Defense Intelligence Agency, “assault rifles” are “short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between a submachine gun and rifle cartridges.” All assault rifles are capable of automatic fire.

You are certainly free to use your own definitions if you would like, but your definition might not be as widely accepted as the military Defense Intelligence Agency definitions. You can call a squirrel a fluffy tail tree rat if you want to. I don't care.

it doesnt matter cause that type of weapon is covered by the 2nd A,,

That's nice. I guess. Still has nothing to do with this thread though.

we still dont know what this thread is about,,,

I understand. Stupid people often have trouble with all but the simplest threads. Keep trying though.

here's the deal you stop making ignorant trollish threads and you will not be viewed as stupid.

Here's the deal. Fuck you.

Thank you for proving you've nothing intelligent to say...

 

[Canon Shooter]

Will somebody just go ahead and agree with Bulldog's stupid idea that AR's should be banned?

Please show where I said anything about banning AR15s.

You are not a Second Amendment proponent.

Meanwhile, you keep being asked why the differences matter.

As of page 21, you have not answered.

They matter because I wanted to know if any exist. Evidently, they don't.

The one primary difference you acknowledged in your OP is a significant enough difference that the two weapons being discussed are simply not in the same category. Saying a gun should be banned because another gun is banned is just silly.

I don't know how I can be any plainer than that...

 

[BULLDOG]

This GOTCHA attempt is so lame, we need to call in a veterinarian and have it put down.

It's an honest question. All I want is an honest answer.

Lots of people doubt its an assault rifle so the entire thread is pointless.

There are always people who live in their own little world, but if disagree with our military's definition, you're pretty much an idiot.

Like you who thinks that it's soooooo easy to modify an AR 15 into a fully automatic weapon even though no one ever seems to use modified AR 15s to commit crimes

Perhaps it would be beyond your ability to fabricate one small part, and purchase the rest. That wouldn't be a big hurdle for many.

Then tell me why we don't see people using modified Ar 15s to commit crimes.

You say all this shit but you have no proof that people are actually modifying their ARs

I never said they do, even though I believe some do. I just said it was possible, and not that hard to do.

 

[BULLDOG]

Auto fire from rifleman is for final fire in an emergency usually when being assaulted and the enemy has closed to danger close, as in in threat of being over run.

Yes. Rarely used.

which has nothing to do with the fact it has the ability and the AR15 does not making them critically different, there is no difference between an AR15 and any other semi automatic rifle especially those with detachable magazines.

Amusing but not surprising that after 400 posts, so many are struggling with the question in the OP, and the purpose of the thread. I'll type slowly so it will be easier for you to understand.

We all know the M4 is capable of select fire. We also know the AR15 is not.
Are there any other significant (that means big) differences between the two rifles?

I guess youre to stupid to know thats the only difference,,

now why did it matter??

I assumed as much from the beginning. I just wanted to know how gun nuts would respond to the question.

so this whole thread was a troll and should have been in the rubber room,,

It was a straight forward question. I didn't make you look like fools by babbling about everything but the subject. You did that all on your own.

IM GONNA ASK A QUESTION AND I WILL ONLY ACCEPT ONE ANWSER AND IF U DONT GIVE IT TO ME UR DUMB

That's funny. The closest thing I got to an answer to the question was barrel length, but you can get just about any barrel length for both of them. The 2nd isn't an answer to the question, and state laws isn't an answer either.

An Actual M4 has a set barrel length and it is shorter then the M16A2 it is also shorter then the AR-15, there are of course special builds but then they are custom and not normal BUT an M4 or M16A2 by definition has a set barrel length other wise they would not call the M4 the M4 it would just be a shorter length M16A2.

Ok, but whether you change the barrel or not, you can still get a matching barrel length for an AR15. The outside of the barrel is slightly different to allow for mounting a grenade launcher, or so I've been told.

 

[progressive hunter]

Auto fire from rifleman is for final fire in an emergency usually when being assaulted and the enemy has closed to danger close, as in in threat of being over run.

Yes. Rarely used.

which has nothing to do with the fact it has the ability and the AR15 does not making them critically different, there is no difference between an AR15 and any other semi automatic rifle especially those with detachable magazines.

Amusing but not surprising that after 400 posts, so many are struggling with the question in the OP, and the purpose of the thread. I'll type slowly so it will be easier for you to understand.

We all know the M4 is capable of select fire. We also know the AR15 is not.
Are there any other significant (that means big) differences between the two rifles?

I guess youre to stupid to know thats the only difference,,

now why did it matter??

I assumed as much from the beginning. I just wanted to know how gun nuts would respond to the question.

so this whole thread was a troll and should have been in the rubber room,,

It was a straight forward question. I didn't make you look like fools by babbling about everything but the subject. You did that all on your own.

IM GONNA ASK A QUESTION AND I WILL ONLY ACCEPT ONE ANWSER AND IF U DONT GIVE IT TO ME UR DUMB

That's funny. The closest thing I got to an answer to the question was barrel length, but you can get just about any barrel length for both of them. The 2nd isn't an answer to the question, and state laws isn't an answer either.

An Actual M4 has a set barrel length and it is shorter then the M16A2 it is also shorter then the AR-15, there are of course special builds but then they are custom and not normal BUT an M4 or M16A2 by definition has a set barrel length other wise they would not call the M4 the M4 it would just be a shorter length M16A2.

Ok, but whether you change the barrel or not, you can still get a matching barrel length for an AR15. The outside of the barrel is slightly different to allow for mounting a grenade launcher, or so I've been told.

OMG!!
a grenade launcher?? thats funny my stepdad has a grenade launcher for his AR,,, its so cool,,

 

[BULLDOG]

Will somebody just go ahead and agree with Bulldog's stupid idea that AR's should be banned?

Please show where I said anything about banning AR15s.

You are not a Second Amendment proponent.

Meanwhile, you keep being asked why the differences matter.

As of page 21, you have not answered.

They matter because I wanted to know if any exist. Evidently, they don't.

The one primary difference you acknowledged in your OP is a significant enough difference that the two weapons being discussed are simply not in the same category. Saying a gun should be banned because another gun is banned is just silly.

I don't know how I can be any plainer than that...

Thanks for the input, but I haven't mentioned banning any kind of rifle.

 

[BULLDOG]

Auto fire from rifleman is for final fire in an emergency usually when being assaulted and the enemy has closed to danger close, as in in threat of being over run.

Yes. Rarely used.

which has nothing to do with the fact it has the ability and the AR15 does not making them critically different, there is no difference between an AR15 and any other semi automatic rifle especially those with detachable magazines.

Amusing but not surprising that after 400 posts, so many are struggling with the question in the OP, and the purpose of the thread. I'll type slowly so it will be easier for you to understand.

We all know the M4 is capable of select fire. We also know the AR15 is not.
Are there any other significant (that means big) differences between the two rifles?

I guess youre to stupid to know thats the only difference,,

now why did it matter??

I assumed as much from the beginning. I just wanted to know how gun nuts would respond to the question.

so this whole thread was a troll and should have been in the rubber room,,

It was a straight forward question. I didn't make you look like fools by babbling about everything but the subject. You did that all on your own.

IM GONNA ASK A QUESTION AND I WILL ONLY ACCEPT ONE ANWSER AND IF U DONT GIVE IT TO ME UR DUMB

That's funny. The closest thing I got to an answer to the question was barrel length, but you can get just about any barrel length for both of them. The 2nd isn't an answer to the question, and state laws isn't an answer either.

An Actual M4 has a set barrel length and it is shorter then the M16A2 it is also shorter then the AR-15, there are of course special builds but then they are custom and not normal BUT an M4 or M16A2 by definition has a set barrel length other wise they would not call the M4 the M4 it would just be a shorter length M16A2.

Ok, but whether you change the barrel or not, you can still get a matching barrel length for an AR15. The outside of the barrel is slightly different to allow for mounting a grenade launcher, or so I've been told.

OMG!!
a grenade launcher?? thats funny my stepdad has a grenade launcher for his AR,,, its so cool,,

Not something I have dealt with. Just something I heard.

 

[daveman]

The M4 is the main rifle used by the US military, and no one could question that it is an assault rifle. The M4 is capable of full automatic fire, and 3 round burst, and the AR15 is not. Of course, it would be illegal, but the AR15 can easily be converted to allow those types of fire. Other than that difference, what makes an M4 an assault weapon, and an AR15 not?

Another Democrat spewing Hitler's propaganda.

The M4 is a carbine rifle, not an "assault rifle". "Assault rifle" is just a ridiculous term that the Nazi's made up out of thin air when they renamed the MP 43 to make it sound scary for propaganda purposes.

Only Nazis call any rifle an "assault rifle".

Our military and the NRA disagree with you

NRA-ILA | Glossary

For definitions of key words related to firearms and the 2nd amendment check out this page.

www.nraila.org

You didn't read far enough.

• Assault Rifle
  By U.S. Army definition, a selective-fire rifle chambered for a cartridge of intermediate power. If applied to any semi-automatic firearm regardless of its cosmetic similarity to a true assault rifle, the term is incorrect.

I read the entire thing. You agree the M4 is an assault rifle though, like I said in the OP --- right?

Yes. But the AR-15 is not. By the definition you cited.

Looks like this thread is over.

I never said the AR was. I did say that other than the multi-fire capability, there were no substantial differences in the two. That is, unless you can name those substantial differences.

Again -- I have no obligation to defend a claim I didn't make.

I don't know what's so hard about that to understand.

OK. Since you can't point out any fault in this OP, I assume we are in agreement.

Are you still trying to hide that you want the AR banned because "there's no substantial differences between the two"?

Because the semi-auto and full-auto thing is a substantial difference.

Yes, it is a substantial difference that everybody is aware of. That's why I excluded it from the discussion. I'm trying to find any other substantial differences that might exist. You know of any?.

Yes. AR-15s are substantially cheaper to own for people who want one. Owning one (or a hundred) isn't regulated like owning a select-fire weapon is.

Thread's over. You need to accept it.

Yes. Do you have anything other than auto-fire capability, which was noted in the OP (post #1) to add?

Oh, look. You're not accepting that this thread is over. Imagine my surprise.

It would have been over long ago if you idiots hadn't kept it going. Is someone forcing you to keep posting?

Not at all. You just want to be able to tell your lies and not be called out for them.

How's that working out for you?

 

[daveman]

Will somebody just go ahead and agree with Bulldog's stupid idea that AR's should be banned?

Please show where I said anything about banning AR15s.

You are not a Second Amendment proponent.

Meanwhile, you keep being asked why the differences matter.

As of page 21, you have not answered.

They matter because I wanted to know if any exist. Evidently, they don't.

Still lying.

But, I'll play your silly little game.

There is no difference between the two rifles beyond select fire.

Now what?

 

[progressive hunter]

Will somebody just go ahead and agree with Bulldog's stupid idea that AR's should be banned?

Please show where I said anything about banning AR15s.

You are not a Second Amendment proponent.

Meanwhile, you keep being asked why the differences matter.

As of page 21, you have not answered.

They matter because I wanted to know if any exist. Evidently, they don't.

The one primary difference you acknowledged in your OP is a significant enough difference that the two weapons being discussed are simply not in the same category. Saying a gun should be banned because another gun is banned is just silly.

I don't know how I can be any plainer than that...

Thanks for the input, but I haven't mentioned banning any kind of rifle.

not yet you havent,,

 

[daveman]

Auto fire from rifleman is for final fire in an emergency usually when being assaulted and the enemy has closed to danger close, as in in threat of being over run.

Yes. Rarely used.

which has nothing to do with the fact it has the ability and the AR15 does not making them critically different, there is no difference between an AR15 and any other semi automatic rifle especially those with detachable magazines.

Amusing but not surprising that after 400 posts, so many are struggling with the question in the OP, and the purpose of the thread. I'll type slowly so it will be easier for you to understand.

We all know the M4 is capable of select fire. We also know the AR15 is not.
Are there any other significant (that means big) differences between the two rifles?

I guess youre to stupid to know thats the only difference,,

now why did it matter??

I assumed as much from the beginning. I just wanted to know how gun nuts would respond to the question.

so this whole thread was a troll and should have been in the rubber room,,

It was a straight forward question. I didn't make you look like fools by babbling about everything but the subject. You did that all on your own.

IM GONNA ASK A QUESTION AND I WILL ONLY ACCEPT ONE ANWSER AND IF U DONT GIVE IT TO ME UR DUMB

That's funny. The closest thing I got to an answer to the question was barrel length, but you can get just about any barrel length for both of them. The 2nd isn't an answer to the question, and state laws isn't an answer either.

Still pretending you didn't get any answers just because you don't like them.

How is it you expect to be taken seriously?

 

[daveman]

This GOTCHA attempt is so lame, we need to call in a veterinarian and have it put down.

It's an honest question. All I want is an honest answer.

Lots of people doubt its an assault rifle so the entire thread is pointless.

There are always people who live in their own little world, but if disagree with our military's definition, you're pretty much an idiot.

Like you who thinks that it's soooooo easy to modify an AR 15 into a fully automatic weapon even though no one ever seems to use modified AR 15s to commit crimes

Perhaps it would be beyond your ability to fabricate one small part, and purchase the rest. That wouldn't be a big hurdle for many.

Then tell me why we don't see people using modified Ar 15s to commit crimes.

You say all this shit but you have no proof that people are actually modifying their ARs

I never said they do, even though I believe some do. I just said it was possible, and not that hard to do.

And that assertion was proven wrong by people with gunsmithing experience.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Will somebody just go ahead and agree with Bulldog's stupid idea that AR's should be banned?

Please show where I said anything about banning AR15s.

You are not a Second Amendment proponent.

Meanwhile, you keep being asked why the differences matter.

As of page 21, you have not answered.

They matter because I wanted to know if any exist. Evidently, they don't.

Still lying.

But, I'll play your silly little game.

There is no difference between the two rifles beyond select fire.

Now what?

true that

 

[Canon Shooter]

Auto fire from rifleman is for final fire in an emergency usually when being assaulted and the enemy has closed to danger close, as in in threat of being over run.

Yes. Rarely used.

which has nothing to do with the fact it has the ability and the AR15 does not making them critically different, there is no difference between an AR15 and any other semi automatic rifle especially those with detachable magazines.

Amusing but not surprising that after 400 posts, so many are struggling with the question in the OP, and the purpose of the thread. I'll type slowly so it will be easier for you to understand.

We all know the M4 is capable of select fire. We also know the AR15 is not.
Are there any other significant (that means big) differences between the two rifles?

I guess youre to stupid to know thats the only difference,,

now why did it matter??

I assumed as much from the beginning. I just wanted to know how gun nuts would respond to the question.

so this whole thread was a troll and should have been in the rubber room,,

It was a straight forward question. I didn't make you look like fools by babbling about everything but the subject. You did that all on your own.

IM GONNA ASK A QUESTION AND I WILL ONLY ACCEPT ONE ANWSER AND IF U DONT GIVE IT TO ME UR DUMB

That's funny. The closest thing I got to an answer to the question was barrel length, but you can get just about any barrel length for both of them. The 2nd isn't an answer to the question, and state laws isn't an answer either.

An Actual M4 has a set barrel length and it is shorter then the M16A2 it is also shorter then the AR-15, there are of course special builds but then they are custom and not normal BUT an M4 or M16A2 by definition has a set barrel length other wise they would not call the M4 the M4 it would just be a shorter length M16A2.

Ok, but whether you change the barrel or not, you can still get a matching barrel length for an AR15. The outside of the barrel is slightly different to allow for mounting a grenade launcher, or so I've been told.

Dude, seriously... just stop...

 

[BULLDOG]

Auto fire from rifleman is for final fire in an emergency usually when being assaulted and the enemy has closed to danger close, as in in threat of being over run.

Yes. Rarely used.

which has nothing to do with the fact it has the ability and the AR15 does not making them critically different, there is no difference between an AR15 and any other semi automatic rifle especially those with detachable magazines.

Amusing but not surprising that after 400 posts, so many are struggling with the question in the OP, and the purpose of the thread. I'll type slowly so it will be easier for you to understand.

We all know the M4 is capable of select fire. We also know the AR15 is not.
Are there any other significant (that means big) differences between the two rifles?

I guess youre to stupid to know thats the only difference,,

now why did it matter??

I assumed as much from the beginning. I just wanted to know how gun nuts would respond to the question.

so this whole thread was a troll and should have been in the rubber room,,

It was a straight forward question. I didn't make you look like fools by babbling about everything but the subject. You did that all on your own.

IM GONNA ASK A QUESTION AND I WILL ONLY ACCEPT ONE ANWSER AND IF U DONT GIVE IT TO ME UR DUMB

That's funny. The closest thing I got to an answer to the question was barrel length, but you can get just about any barrel length for both of them. The 2nd isn't an answer to the question, and state laws isn't an answer either.

Still pretending you didn't get any answers just because you don't like them.

How is it you expect to be taken seriously?

You aren;t a serious person, your opinion doesn't matter.