None of you are rich. Why are you defending billionaires?

[MikeK]

Because Dear Leader includes people making $200,000 in with the billionaires.

Not so.

Obama's tax increase proposal calls for progressive rates depending on varying income levels. The rate of increase on a $200k income will not be anywhere near that imposed on $1,000,000, or $1,000,000,000.

What is more important to understand is a 2% increase on a $50k income will take food off the table. But a 10% increase on a $1,000,000 income will barely be felt, if at all.

 

[Liability]

Flat tax or fair tax.

Resolves most of this mess and frees up lots of our governmental spending, too, since we won't need an army of revenoooooers.

 

[manu1959]

Class Warfare!!!!!

Class Warfare started before Republicans apologized to BP.

It started before the Bush Tax cuts for billionaires.

It started before business and the Chamber of Commerce began giving to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats.

It began before Republicans created subsidies for oil companies.

Class Warfare began before medical bills became the number one cause of bankruptcy.

It was before corporations, with Republican help, moved millions of jobs to China.

It was before Republicans practiced voter suppression in Midwestern state.

I think it's been around for awhile.

You're really clueless. You don't raise taxes in a recession. That's Economics 101. Your guy Obama wants to raise them on people making over $200,000. If he got his way this already weak economic recovery would grind to an immediate halt.

You've got it backward.

The correct formula is one does not reduce taxes in tandem with launching a major military engagement, such as the Iraq invasion and occupation, which is what Bush did. By restoring the tax rate of Bush's "base" of super-rich cronies Obama will be correcting what in fact was a deliberate and very bad mistake.

The effect of raising taxes on the rich will be a redistribution of hoarded wealth, via a jobs program, into the hands of those who will re-circulate-- which is what the stagnant U.S. economy desperately needs.

you aren't taxing the "hoarded" wealth.... that has already been taxed...you will be taxing earnings going forword....

or are you proposing retroactively taxing people....

 

[MikeK]

Oh, Emm Gee.

It is not "stealing" to expect someone to pay their fair share of the taxes. It's just not.

STFU and get a job.

You are a nothing but a stupid shit-slinger who never has anything constructive to say. I should have put you on Ignore long ago, so that's where you're going now.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Flat tax or fair tax.

Resolves most of this mess and frees up lots of our governmental spending, too, since we won't need an army of revenoooooers.

In order to impose a flat or 'fair' tax, the Republicans would have to violate their oath to Grover Norquist,

since they'd be raising taxes on millions of lower income Americans.

Unless lower income Americans don't count in the pledge.

 

[Intense]

Class Warfare!!!!!

Class Warfare started before Republicans apologized to BP.

It started before the Bush Tax cuts for billionaires.

It started before business and the Chamber of Commerce began giving to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats.

It began before Republicans created subsidies for oil companies.

Class Warfare began before medical bills became the number one cause of bankruptcy.

It was before corporations, with Republican help, moved millions of jobs to China.

It was before Republicans practiced voter suppression in Midwestern state.

I think it's been around for awhile.

We are not defending Billionaires. We are defending the Principle of Private Property. Sadly, you just don't get it.

 

[Intense]

Flat tax or fair tax.

Resolves most of this mess and frees up lots of our governmental spending, too, since we won't need an army of revenoooooers.

In order to impose a flat or 'fair' tax, the Republicans would have to violate their oath to Grover Norquist,

since they'd be raising taxes on millions of lower income Americans.

Unless lower income Americans don't count in the pledge.

You need to factor in the Revenues that the Poor Receive. Lets compare what is owed to what is received in benefit? How does that add up?

 

[manu1959]

Because Dear Leader includes people making $200,000 in with the billionaires.

Not so.

Obama's tax increase proposal calls for progressive rates depending on varying income levels. The rate of increase on a $200k income will not be anywhere near that imposed on $1,000,000, or $1,000,000,000.

What is more important to understand is a 2% increase on a $50k income will take food off the table. But a 10% increase on a $1,000,000 income will barely be felt, if at all.

the tax rate of a mill is about 33% so that leaves 666k add another 10% and that leaves you with 600k...

not that we care because they are rich but what was that person going to spend that 60k on ...

oddly enough people live beyond their means even the rich.....

so i would guess not having 60k would put a dent in something...i would guess the maid gardener pool boy and dog walker would all lose their jobs....not buy a new car? ...not go on vacation?...not invested?....that will hurt someone somewhere....

but eff it ... they are rich ... take their money and let the government spend it ...

 

[Hum Dinger]

Republicans are natural serfs to the aristocracy.

The word is:

Sycophants!

 

[Liability]

Flat tax or fair tax.

Resolves most of this mess and frees up lots of our governmental spending, too, since we won't need an army of revenoooooers.

In order to impose a flat or 'fair' tax, the Republicans would have to violate their oath to Grover Norquist,

since they'd be raising taxes on millions of lower income Americans.

Unless lower income Americans don't count in the pledge.

As you know (or should know) the oath is not "to" Norquist.

And your premise is false anyway.

For the idiotic notion loved by you libbies is always, essentially, "class warfare." "Tax those evil rich greedy corporations!" << insert image, here, of your caricature du jour such as:

>>

But what you fubars refuse to recognize is that making a profit is not evil or morally wrong. And the corporations don't pay taxes. Ever. They always (ALWAYS) pass the costs along to the consumers in the form of higher prices. Ergo, the middle class and the poor end up paying for all tax increases anyway.

You fubars just don't like to admit it.

A flat tax or a fair tax could make all of us pay the same rate, so the very very rich would pay the very very most. The merely rich would pay a lot. The so-called middle "class" would pay a middling amount. The lower income wage earners would pay only a low amount. The poor would pay very little or nothing at all.

Problem solved.

 

[MikeK]

Oh, Emm Gee.

It is not "stealing" to expect someone to pay their fair share of the taxes. It's just not.

I have no issue with the concept of everyone carrying their load. I do have a problem with the concept of lets do a two minute hate on a section of the population and rip them on based on the fact we can outvote them.

It's not a "two-minute hate" issue at all. It is an emerging response to decades of incrementally increasing exploitation which is finally being addressed. And I hope to see the intensity and volume increase in proportion to the provocation.

 

[Intense]

Oh, Emm Gee.

It is not "stealing" to expect someone to pay their fair share of the taxes. It's just not.

I have no issue with the concept of everyone carrying their load. I do have a problem with the concept of lets do a two minute hate on a section of the population and rip them on based on the fact we can outvote them.

It's not a "two-minute hate" issue at all. It is an emerging response to decades of incrementally increasing exploitation which is finally being addressed. And I hope to see the intensity and volume increase in proportion to the provocation.

Who?

Apple? Microsoft? Google? HP? Yahoo?

Who do you want to crucify next?

 

[yidnar]

Class Warfare!!!!!

Class Warfare started before Republicans apologized to BP.

It started before the Bush Tax cuts for billionaires.

It started before business and the Chamber of Commerce began giving to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats.

It began before Republicans created subsidies for oil companies.

Class Warfare began before medical bills became the number one cause of bankruptcy.

It was before corporations, with Republican help, moved millions of jobs to China.

It was before Republicans practiced voter suppression in Midwestern state.

I think it's been around for awhile.

My net worth is 3.7 billion !!

 

[bucs90]

Class Warfare!!!!!

Class Warfare started before Republicans apologized to BP.

It started before the Bush Tax cuts for billionaires.

It started before business and the Chamber of Commerce began giving to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats.

It began before Republicans created subsidies for oil companies.

Class Warfare began before medical bills became the number one cause of bankruptcy.

It was before corporations, with Republican help, moved millions of jobs to China.

It was before Republicans practiced voter suppression in Midwestern state.

I think it's been around for awhile.

Very true. It started when left wing, Socialist or Communist governments like China, North Korea, USSR, Nat'l Socialist Party of Germany, Vietnam, Burma, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, and others, did such things as:

- Use armed men to confiscate free men
- Use armed men to confiscate citizen's food
- Use armed men to confiscate citizen's homes
- Use armed men to confiscate citizen's livestock
- Use armed men to force citizen's to work
- Use armed men to confiscate citizen's gold
- Use armed men to confiscate citizen's water
- Use armed men to confiscate citizen's farms
- Use armed men to exterminate surplus unwanted humans

Yes, class warfare started long ago, before Bush or Obama. It can be found throughout history in big government, left wing nations and regimes.

Thanks for reminding us.

 

[Liability]

Class Warfare!!!!!

Class Warfare started before Republicans apologized to BP.

It started before the Bush Tax cuts for billionaires.

It started before business and the Chamber of Commerce began giving to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats.

It began before Republicans created subsidies for oil companies.

Class Warfare began before medical bills became the number one cause of bankruptcy.

It was before corporations, with Republican help, moved millions of jobs to China.

It was before Republicans practiced voter suppression in Midwestern state.

I think it's been around for awhile.

My net worth is 3.7 billion !!

Sure.

A racist, a tool, an idiot AND a liar.

Randi = fail on all levels and at all times.

 

[manu1959]

i think the "rich" should fire all their employees....and see how it goes.....

 

[yidnar]

Class Warfare!!!!!

Class Warfare started before Republicans apologized to BP.

It started before the Bush Tax cuts for billionaires.

It started before business and the Chamber of Commerce began giving to Republicans 9 to 1 over Democrats.

It began before Republicans created subsidies for oil companies.

Class Warfare began before medical bills became the number one cause of bankruptcy.

It was before corporations, with Republican help, moved millions of jobs to China.

It was before Republicans practiced voter suppression in Midwestern state.

I think it's been around for awhile.

My net worth is 3.7 billion !!

Sure.

A racist, a tool, an idiot AND a liar.

Randi = fail on all levels and at all times.

i'll pay you a million dollars to eat my shit !!

 

[Intense]

i think the "rich" should fire all their employees....and see how it goes.....

Are you willing to relocate?

 

[Dr Grump]

Because Dear Leader includes people making $200,000 in with the billionaires.

Not so.

Obama's tax increase proposal calls for progressive rates depending on varying income levels. The rate of increase on a $200k income will not be anywhere near that imposed on $1,000,000, or $1,000,000,000.

What is more important to understand is a 2% increase on a $50k income will take food off the table. But a 10% increase on a $1,000,000 income will barely be felt, if at all.

the tax rate of a mill is about 33% so that leaves 666k add another 10% and that leaves you with 600k...

not that we care because they are rich but what was that person going to spend that 60k on ...

oddly enough people live beyond their means even the rich.....

so i would guess not having 60k would put a dent in something...i would guess the maid gardener pool boy and dog walker would all lose their jobs....not buy a new car? ...not go on vacation?...not invested?....that will hurt someone somewhere....

but eff it ... they are rich ... take their money and let the government spend it ...

And maybe the govt will spend on paying people to do jobs, too....shrug...

 

[Liability]

My net worth is 3.7 billion !!

Sure.

A racist, a tool, an idiot AND a liar.

Randi = fail on all levels and at all times.

i'll pay you a million dollars to eat my shit !!

I believe you've been told to go fuck yourself, you useless piece of shit.

Now, go.

Attend to that.