Normalization of abnormal behaviors

[SuperDemocrat]

There is a kind of logical argument that basically says the left's version of 'tolerance' might allow individuals the freedom to be themselves. As much as I hate the normalization of abnormal behaviors the alternative may not be any better. I may not want to live in a society where any behavior that is out of line with what is considered normal is punished harshly. How would anyone feel that they are free to be themselves if they simply can't be themselves without some form of social punishment.

The issue that comes up for me transgenders and homos. On one hand I get a little tired of being told I have to except this when I don't want to but on the other hand I think if people really feel more comfortable being themselves as in dressing up as women then they should be allowed to be themselves. I think that is what everyone really wants which is the freedom to be yourself. If you don't want to except transgenders then don't but if you feel more comfortable being one then be one. It is that simple. I say this and I'm probably going to vote for Trump.

 

[BULLDOG]

There is a kind of logical argument that basically says the left's version of 'tolerance' might allow individuals the freedom to be themselves. As much as I hate the normalization of abnormal behaviors the alternative may not be any better. I may not want to live in a society where any behavior that is out of line with what is considered normal is punished harshly. How would anyone feel that they are free to be themselves if they simply can't be themselves without some form of social punishment.

The issue that comes up for me transgenders and homos. On one hand I get a little tired of being told I have to except this when I don't want to but on the other hand I think if people really feel more comfortable being themselves as in dressing up as women then they should be allowed to be themselves. I think that is what everyone really wants which is the freedom to be yourself. If you don't want to except transgenders then don't but if you feel more comfortable being one then be one. It is that simple. I say this and I'm probably going to vote for Trump.

Nobody wants to force you to like transgenders. I'm a little uncomfortable around them myself. All they want is fair treatment and laws that don't discriminate against them. People can still hate them all they want.

 

[Evesbodyman]

Voting for Trump will very shortly make you abnormal.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

There is a kind of logical argument that basically says the left's version of 'tolerance' might allow individuals the freedom to be themselves. As much as I hate the normalization of abnormal behaviors the alternative may not be any better. I may not want to live in a society where any behavior that is out of line with what is considered normal is punished harshly. How would anyone feel that they are free to be themselves if they simply can't be themselves without some form of social punishment.

The issue that comes up for me transgenders and homos. On one hand I get a little tired of being told I have to except this when I don't want to but on the other hand I think if people really feel more comfortable being themselves as in dressing up as women then they should be allowed to be themselves. I think that is what everyone really wants which is the freedom to be yourself. If you don't want to except transgenders then don't but if you feel more comfortable being one then be one. It is that simple. I say this and I'm probably going to vote for Trump.

Nobody wants to force you to like transgenders. I'm a little uncomfortable around them myself. All they want is fair treatment and laws that don't discriminate against them. People can still hate them all they want.

no that is not all the more militant want.


In essence gays who want to force businesses to serve them or mentally ill cross dressers who want to force their way tino whatever bathroom facility they want are no different than the loons who want to carry AK47s through town, or idiots who believe they have a right to beat people up and call it a protest, or people who believe they have a right to stand on your lawn and scream that you are going to hell, or people who believe they have a right to fight with police who are simply doing their jobs. Etc etc etc

It's all a symptom of how stupid and selfish the average American has became.

Left or right, who cares ? You don't have a god damn right to violate the rights of other people...................

 

[midcan5]

Accept. No one really cares is you are able to accept transgender people. You simply owe everyone respect and the rights and privileges that come with being an American, another human being. Simple stuff. And dressing like a women / man are travesties.



Geena Rocero: Why I must come out | TED Talk | TED.com

http://www.sho.com/sho/reality-docs/titles/116780/the-opposite-sex-renes-story#/index

Want to Silence Transphobes in Your School District? Be Nice to Transgender Kids.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Accept. No one really cares is you are able to accept transgender people. You simply owe everyone respect and the rights and privileges that come with being an American, another human being. Simple stuff. And dressing like a women / man are travesties.



Geena Rocero: Why I must come out | TED Talk | TED.com

http://www.sho.com/sho/reality-docs/titles/116780/the-opposite-sex-renes-story#/index

Want to Silence Transphobes in Your School District? Be Nice to Transgender Kids.

Hate to break this to you sparky, but I don't have to RESPECT anyone.

Also, the COTUS protects people from the government curtailing their rights, not other people.

If someone is in my business protesting , for example, they have no protections, I can ask them to be quiet or leave. If you own a business and don't want them carrying guns, they have no protections, they can leave their guns at the door, or not come in.

See how that works?

 

[BULLDOG]

There is a kind of logical argument that basically says the left's version of 'tolerance' might allow individuals the freedom to be themselves. As much as I hate the normalization of abnormal behaviors the alternative may not be any better. I may not want to live in a society where any behavior that is out of line with what is considered normal is punished harshly. How would anyone feel that they are free to be themselves if they simply can't be themselves without some form of social punishment.

The issue that comes up for me transgenders and homos. On one hand I get a little tired of being told I have to except this when I don't want to but on the other hand I think if people really feel more comfortable being themselves as in dressing up as women then they should be allowed to be themselves. I think that is what everyone really wants which is the freedom to be yourself. If you don't want to except transgenders then don't but if you feel more comfortable being one then be one. It is that simple. I say this and I'm probably going to vote for Trump.

Nobody wants to force you to like transgenders. I'm a little uncomfortable around them myself. All they want is fair treatment and laws that don't discriminate against them. People can still hate them all they want.

no that is not all the more militant want.


In essence gays who want to force businesses to serve them or mentally ill cross dressers who want to force their way tino whatever bathroom facility they want are no different than the loons who want to carry AK47s through town, or idiots who believe they have a right to beat people up and call it a protest, or people who believe they have a right to stand on your lawn and scream that you are going to hell, or people who believe they have a right to fight with police who are simply doing their jobs. Etc etc etc

It's all a symptom of how stupid and selfish the average American has became.

Left or right, who cares ? You don't have a god damn right to violate the rights of other people...................

I'm sure you can find extreme views on any subject, and what a person might want isn't always what they have a right to demand. They demand fair treatment because they deserve it.

 

[Timmy]

Look . I think religious people are crazy . So what . As long as they aren't harming anyone, go one with talking to imaginary deities ! Have fun.

 

[Boss]

Let's talk about freedom. Do you think that you are "free" if you are forced by law to publicly acknowledge, praise, condone, accept or like... someone or something you genuinely don't like? Should you have the freedom to like or dislike on your own terms?

You see, I believe this is at the core of what is currently happening in society. It is being shifted toward a sense of "fairness" by the social justice crew. It's not "fair" that some people are frowned upon, their behavior unacceptable to others. We're forced to accept them and accommodate them in every way, whether we like them or agree with them or not. If we don't, we are labeled and ostracized as racists and bigots.

The thing about "fair" is, you can't have fairness AND freedom. Whatever you do to make things more "fair" for some, makes things more "unfair" for others. The old adage is: Life's not fair. It's been true for thousands of years, it hasn't stopped suddenly being true.

Homosexuality is abnormal human behavior. We can pass all kinds of laws to accommodate homosexuals and their lifestyle. We can condemn anyone who dares to criticize them or discriminate against them in any way. But no matter what society does, homosexuality will remain an abnormal human behavior and some people will not accept it or like it. If you're expecting any other outcome, you are expecting a fantasy to come true. So do we keep passing more laws? Demanding by force that people accept what they don't accept? Is that freedom?

 

[Evesbodyman]

Let's talk about freedom. Do you think that you are "free" if you are forced by law to publicly acknowledge, praise, condone, accept or like... someone or something you genuinely don't like? Should you have the freedom to like or dislike on your own terms?

You see, I believe this is at the core of what is currently happening in society. It is being shifted toward a sense of "fairness" by the social justice crew. It's not "fair" that some people are frowned upon, their behavior unacceptable to others. We're forced to accept them and accommodate them in every way, whether we like them or agree with them or not. If we don't, we are labeled and ostracized as racists and bigots.

The thing about "fair" is, you can't have fairness AND freedom. Whatever you do to make things more "fair" for some, makes things more "unfair" for others. The old adage is: Life's not fair. It's been true for thousands of years, it hasn't stopped suddenly being true.

Homosexuality is abnormal human behavior. We can pass all kinds of laws to accommodate homosexuals and their lifestyle. We can condemn anyone who dares to criticize them or discriminate against them in any way. But no matter what society does, homosexuality will remain an abnormal human behavior and some people will not accept it or like it. If you're expecting any other outcome, you are expecting a fantasy to come true. So do we keep passing more laws? Demanding by force that people accept what they don't accept? Is that freedom?

It is a limitation on freedom, the same as no, you may not burn a witch, I don't really care what your holy book says.

Moderation, even in freedom. Otherwise you don't have freedom, you have anarchy.

Can you burn a witch? No. Can they burn you? No. Free enough.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

There is a kind of logical argument that basically says the left's version of 'tolerance' might allow individuals the freedom to be themselves. As much as I hate the normalization of abnormal behaviors the alternative may not be any better. I may not want to live in a society where any behavior that is out of line with what is considered normal is punished harshly. How would anyone feel that they are free to be themselves if they simply can't be themselves without some form of social punishment.

The issue that comes up for me transgenders and homos. On one hand I get a little tired of being told I have to except this when I don't want to but on the other hand I think if people really feel more comfortable being themselves as in dressing up as women then they should be allowed to be themselves. I think that is what everyone really wants which is the freedom to be yourself. If you don't want to except transgenders then don't but if you feel more comfortable being one then be one. It is that simple. I say this and I'm probably going to vote for Trump.

Nobody wants to force you to like transgenders. I'm a little uncomfortable around them myself. All they want is fair treatment and laws that don't discriminate against them. People can still hate them all they want.

no that is not all the more militant want.


In essence gays who want to force businesses to serve them or mentally ill cross dressers who want to force their way tino whatever bathroom facility they want are no different than the loons who want to carry AK47s through town, or idiots who believe they have a right to beat people up and call it a protest, or people who believe they have a right to stand on your lawn and scream that you are going to hell, or people who believe they have a right to fight with police who are simply doing their jobs. Etc etc etc

It's all a symptom of how stupid and selfish the average American has became.

Left or right, who cares ? You don't have a god damn right to violate the rights of other people...................

I'm sure you can find extreme views on any subject, and what a person might want isn't always what they have a right to demand. They demand fair treatment because they deserve it.

They deserve fair treatment from the Government. Absolutely agree. Fair and equal treatment all the way.

They don't deserve ANYTHING from me. I'm not required to treat people equally. That is where liberals get tripped up. I have a right to discriminate. I have that right. Now certainly if I discriminate you have a right to think I'm an asshole. That's not the point. The point is you are using the government to force people to do something all the while screaming about people who want to use the government to force people to behave a certain way.

It's preposterous.

 

[BULLDOG]

Let's talk about freedom. Do you think that you are "free" if you are forced by law to publicly acknowledge, praise, condone, accept or like... someone or something you genuinely don't like? Should you have the freedom to like or dislike on your own terms?

You see, I believe this is at the core of what is currently happening in society. It is being shifted toward a sense of "fairness" by the social justice crew. It's not "fair" that some people are frowned upon, their behavior unacceptable to others. We're forced to accept them and accommodate them in every way, whether we like them or agree with them or not. If we don't, we are labeled and ostracized as racists and bigots.

The thing about "fair" is, you can't have fairness AND freedom. Whatever you do to make things more "fair" for some, makes things more "unfair" for others. The old adage is: Life's not fair. It's been true for thousands of years, it hasn't stopped suddenly being true.

Homosexuality is abnormal human behavior. We can pass all kinds of laws to accommodate homosexuals and their lifestyle. We can condemn anyone who dares to criticize them or discriminate against them in any way. But no matter what society does, homosexuality will remain an abnormal human behavior and some people will not accept it or like it. If you're expecting any other outcome, you are expecting a fantasy to come true. So do we keep passing more laws? Demanding by force that people accept what they don't accept? Is that freedom?

You're kinda right. You don't always have to be fair. Laws do have to be fair. As long as we demand fair laws, and you obey them, you are free to be unfair in all the other ways your greedy little heart wants.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Let's talk about freedom. Do you think that you are "free" if you are forced by law to publicly acknowledge, praise, condone, accept or like... someone or something you genuinely don't like? Should you have the freedom to like or dislike on your own terms?

You see, I believe this is at the core of what is currently happening in society. It is being shifted toward a sense of "fairness" by the social justice crew. It's not "fair" that some people are frowned upon, their behavior unacceptable to others. We're forced to accept them and accommodate them in every way, whether we like them or agree with them or not. If we don't, we are labeled and ostracized as racists and bigots.

The thing about "fair" is, you can't have fairness AND freedom. Whatever you do to make things more "fair" for some, makes things more "unfair" for others. The old adage is: Life's not fair. It's been true for thousands of years, it hasn't stopped suddenly being true.

Homosexuality is abnormal human behavior. We can pass all kinds of laws to accommodate homosexuals and their lifestyle. We can condemn anyone who dares to criticize them or discriminate against them in any way. But no matter what society does, homosexuality will remain an abnormal human behavior and some people will not accept it or like it. If you're expecting any other outcome, you are expecting a fantasy to come true. So do we keep passing more laws? Demanding by force that people accept what they don't accept? Is that freedom?

It is a limitation on freedom, the same as no, you may not burn a witch, I don't really care what your holy book says.

Moderation, even in freedom. Otherwise you don't have freedom, you have anarchy.

Can you burn a witch? No. Can they burn you? No. Free enough.

Burning someone =/= discriminating against them. Can we have an honest discussion please.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Let's talk about freedom. Do you think that you are "free" if you are forced by law to publicly acknowledge, praise, condone, accept or like... someone or something you genuinely don't like? Should you have the freedom to like or dislike on your own terms?

You see, I believe this is at the core of what is currently happening in society. It is being shifted toward a sense of "fairness" by the social justice crew. It's not "fair" that some people are frowned upon, their behavior unacceptable to others. We're forced to accept them and accommodate them in every way, whether we like them or agree with them or not. If we don't, we are labeled and ostracized as racists and bigots.

The thing about "fair" is, you can't have fairness AND freedom. Whatever you do to make things more "fair" for some, makes things more "unfair" for others. The old adage is: Life's not fair. It's been true for thousands of years, it hasn't stopped suddenly being true.

Homosexuality is abnormal human behavior. We can pass all kinds of laws to accommodate homosexuals and their lifestyle. We can condemn anyone who dares to criticize them or discriminate against them in any way. But no matter what society does, homosexuality will remain an abnormal human behavior and some people will not accept it or like it. If you're expecting any other outcome, you are expecting a fantasy to come true. So do we keep passing more laws? Demanding by force that people accept what they don't accept? Is that freedom?

You're kinda right. You don't always have to be fair. Laws do have to be fair. As long as we demand fair laws, and you obey them, you are free to be unfair in all the other ways your greedy little heart wants.

Great, now we're getting somewhere.

Now please explain to me how a law that only makes CERTAIN discrimination illegal is fair or just .

Not to mention the very fact that the government does not have the authority to prevent me from discriminating anyway.

 

[Evesbodyman]

Let's talk about freedom. Do you think that you are "free" if you are forced by law to publicly acknowledge, praise, condone, accept or like... someone or something you genuinely don't like? Should you have the freedom to like or dislike on your own terms?

You see, I believe this is at the core of what is currently happening in society. It is being shifted toward a sense of "fairness" by the social justice crew. It's not "fair" that some people are frowned upon, their behavior unacceptable to others. We're forced to accept them and accommodate them in every way, whether we like them or agree with them or not. If we don't, we are labeled and ostracized as racists and bigots.

The thing about "fair" is, you can't have fairness AND freedom. Whatever you do to make things more "fair" for some, makes things more "unfair" for others. The old adage is: Life's not fair. It's been true for thousands of years, it hasn't stopped suddenly being true.

Homosexuality is abnormal human behavior. We can pass all kinds of laws to accommodate homosexuals and their lifestyle. We can condemn anyone who dares to criticize them or discriminate against them in any way. But no matter what society does, homosexuality will remain an abnormal human behavior and some people will not accept it or like it. If you're expecting any other outcome, you are expecting a fantasy to come true. So do we keep passing more laws? Demanding by force that people accept what they don't accept? Is that freedom?

It is a limitation on freedom, the same as no, you may not burn a witch, I don't really care what your holy book says.

Moderation, even in freedom. Otherwise you don't have freedom, you have anarchy.

Can you burn a witch? No. Can they burn you? No. Free enough.

Burning someone =/= discriminating against them. Can we have an honest discussion please.

The point is exactly the same.

Can you make a law that limits the freedom of one group to discriminate against another group? Yes, you can.

 

[Google]

There is a kind of logical argument that basically says the left's version of 'tolerance' might allow individuals the freedom to be themselves. As much as I hate the normalization of abnormal behaviors the alternative may not be any better. I may not want to live in a society where any behavior that is out of line with what is considered normal is punished harshly. How would anyone feel that they are free to be themselves if they simply can't be themselves without some form of social punishment.

The issue that comes up for me transgenders and homos. On one hand I get a little tired of being told I have to except this when I don't want to but on the other hand I think if people really feel more comfortable being themselves as in dressing up as women then they should be allowed to be themselves. I think that is what everyone really wants which is the freedom to be yourself. If you don't want to except transgenders then don't but if you feel more comfortable being one then be one. It is that simple. I say this and I'm probably going to vote for Trump.

This is willful ignorance of reality. It isn't normalization of abnormal behavior, it is thrusting upon the public by federal decree policies that needlessly cost tax payer millions of dollars. It is instigating a non-issue. Of all of the pressing issues facing the country, whether or not trans, a community that represents less than a percent of America, is far down that list. How about addressing real inequality and oppression in the world? These same people excuse and ignore state sanctioned execution of homosexuals in the Muslim world.

This twisting of reality isn't holding up anymore. The majority of Americans, be it Bernie supporters or Trump fans, are libertarian-minded individuals. Thus, majority of Americans have a live and let live attitude. Shoving this non-issue on the public only serves to divide and sow discord, which is exactly the point. The left couldn't give a damn about trans, gays--they care about dividing and changing the country. Which they are failing at miserably.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Let's talk about freedom. Do you think that you are "free" if you are forced by law to publicly acknowledge, praise, condone, accept or like... someone or something you genuinely don't like? Should you have the freedom to like or dislike on your own terms?

You see, I believe this is at the core of what is currently happening in society. It is being shifted toward a sense of "fairness" by the social justice crew. It's not "fair" that some people are frowned upon, their behavior unacceptable to others. We're forced to accept them and accommodate them in every way, whether we like them or agree with them or not. If we don't, we are labeled and ostracized as racists and bigots.

The thing about "fair" is, you can't have fairness AND freedom. Whatever you do to make things more "fair" for some, makes things more "unfair" for others. The old adage is: Life's not fair. It's been true for thousands of years, it hasn't stopped suddenly being true.

Homosexuality is abnormal human behavior. We can pass all kinds of laws to accommodate homosexuals and their lifestyle. We can condemn anyone who dares to criticize them or discriminate against them in any way. But no matter what society does, homosexuality will remain an abnormal human behavior and some people will not accept it or like it. If you're expecting any other outcome, you are expecting a fantasy to come true. So do we keep passing more laws? Demanding by force that people accept what they don't accept? Is that freedom?

It is a limitation on freedom, the same as no, you may not burn a witch, I don't really care what your holy book says.

Moderation, even in freedom. Otherwise you don't have freedom, you have anarchy.

Can you burn a witch? No. Can they burn you? No. Free enough.

Burning someone =/= discriminating against them. Can we have an honest discussion please.

The point is exactly the same.

Can you make a law that limits the freedom of one group to discriminate against another group? Yes, you can.

The point is NOT the fucking same you moron.

You are not injured by being discriminated against. You are obviously injured if I burn you.

In point of fact stupid, I could legally hang a sign outside my business that read "no witches" and just kick anyone who I suspected of being a witch right out the door and refuse to serve them and that would be fucking legal. Proving that the occult isn't provided the same protections as race and therefor the so called Public Accommodation laws are unconstitutional b/c they do not protect everyone equally.

 

[JakeStarkey]

This is the very reason we will not let the abnormal trumphucs win or their allies.

Normalization of abnormal behaviors

 

[BULLDOG]

There is a kind of logical argument that basically says the left's version of 'tolerance' might allow individuals the freedom to be themselves. As much as I hate the normalization of abnormal behaviors the alternative may not be any better. I may not want to live in a society where any behavior that is out of line with what is considered normal is punished harshly. How would anyone feel that they are free to be themselves if they simply can't be themselves without some form of social punishment.

The issue that comes up for me transgenders and homos. On one hand I get a little tired of being told I have to except this when I don't want to but on the other hand I think if people really feel more comfortable being themselves as in dressing up as women then they should be allowed to be themselves. I think that is what everyone really wants which is the freedom to be yourself. If you don't want to except transgenders then don't but if you feel more comfortable being one then be one. It is that simple. I say this and I'm probably going to vote for Trump.

Nobody wants to force you to like transgenders. I'm a little uncomfortable around them myself. All they want is fair treatment and laws that don't discriminate against them. People can still hate them all they want.

no that is not all the more militant want.


In essence gays who want to force businesses to serve them or mentally ill cross dressers who want to force their way tino whatever bathroom facility they want are no different than the loons who want to carry AK47s through town, or idiots who believe they have a right to beat people up and call it a protest, or people who believe they have a right to stand on your lawn and scream that you are going to hell, or people who believe they have a right to fight with police who are simply doing their jobs. Etc etc etc

It's all a symptom of how stupid and selfish the average American has became.

Left or right, who cares ? You don't have a god damn right to violate the rights of other people...................

I'm sure you can find extreme views on any subject, and what a person might want isn't always what they have a right to demand. They demand fair treatment because they deserve it.

They deserve fair treatment from the Government. Absolutely agree. Fair and equal treatment all the way.

They don't deserve ANYTHING from me. I'm not required to treat people equally. That is where liberals get tripped up. I have a right to discriminate. I have that right. Now certainly if I discriminate you have a right to think I'm an asshole. That's not the point. The point is you are using the government to force people to do something all the while screaming about people who want to use the government to force people to behave a certain way.

It's preposterous.

Who has tried to force you to like trans or gay people?

 

[Fair&Balanced]

This is the very reason we will not let the abnormal trumphucs win or their allies.

Normalization of abnormal behaviors

Here's how stupid Jake is.


Trump has never said word one about gays and is ON RECORD as stating that in his opinions trannies should use whatever restroom they feel comfortable in and still and yet brain damaged Jake tries to lay this at Trump's feet.