Now tell me animals have no soul

[The Duke]

I surely hope to see some of my animals in heaven, if I make it. They certainly deserve to be there. Me? Eh, that's not up to me.

 

[zaangalewa]

And there is no place in the Bible that says anything about killing people?

This is also written in every heart. The message is: "Do not kill!" But on the other side: When you will travel to a new planet and there's a "wood" then you know there are also "wolves" on this planet.

Why is it only a problem when humans eat meat?
Half of the animal kingdom does too and their kills before consuming the meat are BRUTAL.

STUPID ASS VEGANS LOL

Looks like you think it is more intelligent to be a cruel animal eating without compassion than to be a vegan living human predator who lives vegan because of respect and/or love.

lol!! OK, so a lot of folks say that human procreation is a bad thing. I'd disagree. Over the past couple hundred years the human population has increased eight-fold. Humans are far better off now than they were back then.

That's a wrong idea. Evolution has no direction, has no plan. Also degeneration is evolution. About 70,000 years ago our ancestors had been biologically nearly the same people as we are today. At this time we nearly had died out what we know because our genes show we had less than 1000 ancestors at this time of natural history. They survived whatever drastic problem on whatever wise or natural reason - what doesn't mean anyone of us would survive in the same situation. In the opposite it looks like that the average intelligence of human beings sinks with civilisation. More contact to other animals could perhaps better help than always only to circle around human thoughts.

 

[Confederate Soldier]

All dogs goto heaven

Haven't you heard?

Grow up.

 

[Confederate Soldier]

Watching a mother chimp embrace her missing baby, seeing the selfless and sometimes incredible devotion of a dog for the welfare of its owner, watching critters figure out solutions to problems makes us know that they really do feel, love, think, reason--are sentient beings. All characteristics of a 'soul'.

No, these are signs of intelligence. Sit there and tell me that a slug has a soul, or a Lemming, or a sloth, a turkey, etc. Sure, you think chimps and dogs have souls because they act so cute, but they are intelligent. Of course you think they have feelings. Now say the same for a lemming, please.

 

[cnm]

Now tell me animals have no soul​

What definition of animal are you using?

 

[Foxfyre]

No, these are signs of intelligence. Sit there and tell me that a slug has a soul, or a Lemming, or a sloth, a turkey, etc. Sure, you think chimps and dogs have souls because they act so cute, but they are intelligent. Of course you think they have feelings. Now say the same for a lemming, please.

I don't know about lesser species or what they know of their existence. But it is just as rational for me to think that animals have spirits/souls than it is for you to think they do not. For neither of us have any way to know that.

 

[cnm]

What is a lesser species? How is that defined?

 

[Confederate Soldier]

I don't know about lesser species or what they know of their existence. But it is just as rational for me to think that animals have spirits/souls than it is for you to think they do not. For neither of us have any way to know that.

About the only thing I agree with. There is no real way to know, so I'll agree to disagree then.

 

[Unkotare]

What is a lesser species? How is that defined?

 

[Foxfyre]

What is a lesser species? How is that defined?

I consider the higher animals those that we can observe think, rationalize, think things out, solve problems, figure out how to reach their objective.

But then there are the miracles of the ant and bee colonies that are masters of engineering and working together. Is there some kind of sentient intelligence there are is it just in their programming and they don't think or are aware of their existence? (I have that on my list of questions I hope to take to Heaven with me. ) I tend to catch a spider in the house and put it outside but swat a fly without remorse or conscience. So there is a dichotomy there that is more impulsive than thought out I think.

 

[Grumblenuts]

What definition of animal are you using?

 

[cnm]

I consider the higher animals those that we can observe think, rationalize, think things out, solve problems, figure out how to reach their objective.

So, an ant or a flea, for example, is a higher animal? I don't know that I'd disagree.
Where's the cut off point, sea anemones?

 

[buttercup]

The discussion on this thread inspired my new sig.

 

[buttercup]

And watching many animals interacting with each other, who can deny that it is real affection that they demonstrate?

Speaking of that, here's another one…

 

[Blues Man]

Bollocks!

Food is a central part to all human rituals and one of the greatest joys in life.

If you are truly so souless that you wish to take pleasure out of the very human act of enjoying ones favorite foods and see food only as a way of sustaining your body...

I suggest you just have vitamin pills chased down with a glass of water for the rest of your miserable life.

Food is a necessity like taking a shit.

The reason so many people are fat is because they take too much pleasure in eating instead of realizing that food is fuel for the body and garbage in garbage out

 

[fncceo]

Food is a necessity like taking a shit.

And sex is only necessary for procreation.

 

[Blues Man]

And sex is only necessary for procreation.

And people who are addicted to porn are no different than people who eat too much.

Sex is also good for mental health and the strengthening of a relationship and like anything can be overdone

And don't forget people do not have to procreate

 

[sparky]

posters debating the validity of animal souls, while being convinced they have one is rather entertaining......~S~

 

[Blues Man]

posters debating the validity of animal souls, while being convinced they have one is rather entertaining......~S~

Animals feel pain and loss they feel happiness

That's reason enough for me not to eat them

 

[sparky]

And sex is only necessary for procreation.

one can learn a lot from nature

~S~