NY Times Proudly Proclaims America Should be Governed by Mob Rule

[harmonica]

The Supreme Court’s Legitimacy Crisis: It’s not about Brett Kavanaugh’s alleged behavior. It’s about justices who do not represent the will of the majority.

I’m sure Dred Scott knows what they’re talking about.

It's was bad then, and it's still bad now. Bart O'Kavanaugh is not only a lying rapist he's also the least popular nominee ever.

there's just one little thing wrong with your post--he's not a liar and not a rapist
there's no proof at all

 

[blackhawk]

I would remind the author of that article of a couple of facts first the President is not elected by the popular vote so bringing that up again is idiotic the collective vote totals of the respective Senators on both sides is totally irelevant as well as some states have larger populations than others and voter turnout varies from state to state. It's the number of Senators your party has that matters not the total number of votes they all got. Since this is football Sunday it would be like saying the team who scores the most points didn't really earn the victory because the other team had more offensive yards.

 

[danielpalos]

The Supreme Court’s Legitimacy Crisis: It’s not about Brett Kavanaugh’s alleged behavior. It’s about justices who do not represent the will of the majority.

I’m sure Dred Scott knows what they’re talking about.

if abortion becomes illegal; the right wing will have no basis to deny or disparage the cost of social services since it is Right Wing public policy.

 

[eagle1462010]

The Supreme Court’s Legitimacy Crisis: It’s not about Brett Kavanaugh’s alleged behavior. It’s about justices who do not represent the will of the majority.

I’m sure Dred Scott knows what they’re talking about.

It's was bad then, and it's still bad now. Bart O'Kavanaugh is not only a lying rapist he's also the least popular nominee ever.

The Executive and Legislative branches of the Gov't have appointed a Supreme Court Judge under the rules of the Republic........Under the Republic the Judiciary is the avenue for the checks and balances within the system.

If you claim a crime has been committed then you must use the Judiciary to check the appointment under the Republic. Under Maryland law their is no Statue of Limitations for a Rape Charge.............File a complaint and present evidence if he is a rapist............No evidence has been presented to date that backs up her story.........only evidence that she has no witness to the alleged crimes exist.............If she has that evidence it is her right to proceed in the courts to present her case......

She has not done so, so you have nothing but rhetoric.

 

[eagle1462010]

The Avalon Project : The Federalist Papers No. 10

From this view of the subject it may be concluded that a pure democracy, by which I mean a society consisting of a small number of citizens, who assemble and administer the government in person, can admit of no cure for the mischiefs of faction. A common passion or interest will, in almost every case, be felt by a majority of the whole; a communication and concert result from the form of government itself; and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party or an obnoxious individual. Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians, who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would, at the same time, be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.

A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking. Let us examine the points in which it varies from pure democracy, and we shall comprehend both the nature of the cure and the efficacy which it must derive from the Union.

The two great points of difference between a democracy and a republic are: first, the delegation of the government, in the latter, to a small number of citizens elected by the rest; secondly, the greater number of citizens, and greater sphere of country, over which the latter may be extended.

 

[dblack]

The Supreme Court’s Legitimacy Crisis: It’s not about Brett Kavanaugh’s alleged behavior. It’s about justices who do not represent the will of the majority.

The entire point of the Constitution, and the Supreme Court, is to deny the will of the majority when it goes too far.

 

[eagle1462010]

America Is Living James Madison’s Nightmare

Madison’s reading convinced him that direct democracies—such as the assembly in Athens, where 6,000 citizens were required for a quorum—unleashed populist passions that overcame the cool, deliberative reason prized above all by Enlightenment thinkers. “In all very numerous assemblies, of whatever characters composed, passion never fails to wrest the sceptre from reason,” he argued in The Federalist Papers, the essays he wrote (along with Alexander Hamilton and John Jay) to build support for the ratification of the Constitution. “Had every Athenian citizen been a Socrates, every Athenian assembly would still have been a mob.”

Madison and Hamilton believed that Athenian citizens had been swayed by crude and ambitious politicians who had played on their emotions. The demagogue Cleon was said to have seduced the assembly into being more hawkish toward Athens’s opponents in the Peloponnesian War, and even the reformer Solon canceled debts and debased the currency. In Madison’s view, history seemed to be repeating itself in America. After the Revolutionary War, he had observed in Massachusetts “a rage for paper money, for abolition of debts, for an equal division of property.” That populist rage had led to Shays’s Rebellion, which pitted a band of debtors against their creditors.

Madison referred to impetuous mobs as factions, which he defined in “Federalist No. 10” as a group “united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adversed to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.” Factions arise, he believed, when public opinion forms and spreads quickly. But they can dissolve if the public is given time and space to consider long-term interests rather than short-term gratification.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[bodecea]

What did Hillary say about people who refuse to accept the election results?

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Did Hillary Clinton not accept the results of 2016?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What did Hillary say about people who refuse to accept the election results?

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Did Hillary Clinton not accept the results of 2016?

As a matter of fact she DID NOT and continues to prove she did not daily. As does the rest of the democratic HERD.

 

[miketx]

What did Hillary say about people who refuse to accept the election results?

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The one time I agreed with Hillary. Couple that with Obama’s “Elections have consequences”. Why don’t the Democrats listen and adhere to the standards and edicts of their leaders?

You could answer that question by understanding those who still think 3 million illegals voted.

Prove they didn't.

 

[DOTR]

The Avalon Project : The Federalist Papers No. 10

the weaker party or an obnoxious individual. Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians, who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their

Let us note what their main concerns were. Not transsexual rights.

Property rights and security. The only two legitimate reasons to ever form a government in the first place. We didnt agree to anything else. And those are the two very things under attack today.

 

[OldLady]

The Article will disappoint the Founding Fathers---who set up a Republic precisely with the intention of avoiding Mob Rule.

Is the person who wrote it a Suck-Ass Liberal Pinhead? Well, he wrote for the NYT so I guess I know the answer to that question.

Who said we've got "mob rule?" That's what you're going to call the left, now, when they protest, huh, "mobs?" Oh, that will bring over a few Independents and Democrats for sure.

Why? Who would want to join a screaming mob, except the screaming mob? They look like the idiots they are.

Riots are more likely..........seems the Dems protest riot police and buses to haul off those to jail are needed every time. It is one thing to protest PEACEFULLY and entirely another to use violence as a means for political ends............

Time and time again the left use intimidation and fear tactics on their protests..........when they don't get their way or when they are offended and they try to trample the Freedom of those who speak against them............ANTIFA and BLM being prime examples..........brandishing metal clubs with homemade body armor going to crack heads of those they disagree with............

That isn't a Peaceful Protest................that is an intent to incite violence.

Wake up. It's both sides. You all will be back with your AR's on your shoulders as soon as you lose.

 

[dblack]

The Article will disappoint the Founding Fathers---who set up a Republic precisely with the intention of avoiding Mob Rule.

Is the person who wrote it a Suck-Ass Liberal Pinhead? Well, he wrote for the NYT so I guess I know the answer to that question.

Who said we've got "mob rule?" That's what you're going to call the left, now, when they protest, huh, "mobs?" Oh, that will bring over a few Independents and Democrats for sure.

Why? Who would want to join a screaming mob, except the screaming mob? They look like the idiots they are.

Riots are more likely..........seems the Dems protest riot police and buses to haul off those to jail are needed every time. It is one thing to protest PEACEFULLY and entirely another to use violence as a means for political ends............

Time and time again the left use intimidation and fear tactics on their protests..........when they don't get their way or when they are offended and they try to trample the Freedom of those who speak against them............ANTIFA and BLM being prime examples..........brandishing metal clubs with homemade body armor going to crack heads of those they disagree with............

That isn't a Peaceful Protest................that is an intent to incite violence.

Wake up. It's both sides. You all will be back with your AR's on your shoulders as soon as you lose.

Yep. And that is, in part, a direct result of the perspective portrayed in the article. We NEED "justices who do not represent the will of the majority". We need judges who will protect the rights of the minority. But that function of the Court is failing, and with no other protection, people feel the need to fight - literally if necessary - to protect their rights.

 

[danielpalos]

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

Why do we have security problems in our free States?

 

[Anathema]

The Supreme Court’s Legitimacy Crisis: It’s not about Brett Kavanaugh’s alleged behavior. It’s about justices who do not represent the will of the majority.

The SCOTUS was never intended to represent The People. It has always been intended to represent and defend the Constitution of the United Ststes and the ideals of the Founding Fathers. Nothing more or less.

 

[odanny]

The NYT is far too cerebral for any Trump supporter to read, so I know all the Trump cult on this board has not read the article. In fact, why does any Trump supporter post a link to a story in the NYT anyway? None of you dullards are going to read it, you get your news in 30 second soundbites from Faux News, Breitbart, and other wingnut, fake news sites.

 

[eagle1462010]

The Article will disappoint the Founding Fathers---who set up a Republic precisely with the intention of avoiding Mob Rule.

Is the person who wrote it a Suck-Ass Liberal Pinhead? Well, he wrote for the NYT so I guess I know the answer to that question.

Who said we've got "mob rule?" That's what you're going to call the left, now, when they protest, huh, "mobs?" Oh, that will bring over a few Independents and Democrats for sure.

Why? Who would want to join a screaming mob, except the screaming mob? They look like the idiots they are.

Riots are more likely..........seems the Dems protest riot police and buses to haul off those to jail are needed every time. It is one thing to protest PEACEFULLY and entirely another to use violence as a means for political ends............

Time and time again the left use intimidation and fear tactics on their protests..........when they don't get their way or when they are offended and they try to trample the Freedom of those who speak against them............ANTIFA and BLM being prime examples..........brandishing metal clubs with homemade body armor going to crack heads of those they disagree with............

That isn't a Peaceful Protest................that is an intent to incite violence.

Wake up. It's both sides. You all will be back with your AR's on your shoulders as soon as you lose.

Anti Muslim Crusaders...........which I am not a part of ..........Are you part of Antifa...........BLM.............who are violent to the core.

Do you start riots at Trump rallies.............are you following Republicans to gas stations and harassing them.........at the movies.........are you trying to scare Collins going to work by chanting and yelling at her.....................

You are as much a part of those groups as I am part of the Crusaders.................In regards to when we lose...........TEA PARTY.........You bet. But they didn't go there and burn the town down to the ground...........and didn't silence the opposition...........Police were there........but didn't have to do mass arrests..........now did they.

 

[danielpalos]

a State management issue?

 

[Soupnazi630]

The Supreme Court’s Legitimacy Crisis: It’s not about Brett Kavanaugh’s alleged behavior. It’s about justices who do not represent the will of the majority.

I’m sure Dred Scott knows what they’re talking about.

It's was bad then, and it's still bad now. Bart O'Kavanaugh is not only a lying rapist he's also the least popular nominee ever.

You are liar and popularity means nothing