Obama Attacks ‘Climate Deniers’ For Wasting Time Debating ‘Fact’

[RKMBrown]

Did anybody else see them there magic moving goalposts?

Wtf are you talking about? There is a hole in the ozone layer. But feel free to show where someone claimed that the ozone layer would be all better if we would do something about CFC's. Help stop the expansion of the hole? Yes. Eliminate it, don't think so.

Notice how the ozone hole is above the poles. What causes that?

Answer: Cold air.

Also notice how Demcrats are on both sides of this. They want to stop ozone depletion, and decrease any new ozone being released.

They got us coming and going....

Thup:

O3 is a separate issue.

 

[RKMBrown]

And what does that state "want them to say"?

Whatever will give them more power and money of course, the state is all about both of those things.

Just like they regulate the oil industry just enough to make billions themselves. They really have no desire to shut them down, they would be shooting themselves in the foot. They merely promote to the idiotic masses how the oil companies are 'evil' bastards so they can justify their regulations, making themselves billions in the process. If they were truly 'evil' then why isn't the government shutting them down altogether, as they easily could?

It's the same thing with global warming, they don't care about 'slowing it down', all they care about is regulating it so they can make their billions and exert more control over the masses. It's merely a tool for them, a very valuable tool. If they truly cared about slowing it down there would be no such thing as 'carbon credits', there would be mandated regulations to stop CO2 emmissions, period, no money involved. Yet that's not how it is, is it?

Why don't they just shut up and put their money where their mouths are? It's a big game to make money for all those involved, and you're the stupid dups helping them to achieve it without gaining a thing from it. They love people like that.

LOL how do you shut down CO2 emissions completely? Do you even realize how idiotic that statement is? Why does it have to be all or nothing with you simple minded people?

And how do you explain every other industrialized country in the world you says AGW is very much real? Carbon credits and democrats corruption there too?

The retards actually believe co2 is a poison.

 

[mudwhistle]

Wtf are you talking about? There is a hole in the ozone layer. But feel free to show where someone claimed that the ozone layer would be all better if we would do something about CFC's. Help stop the expansion of the hole? Yes. Eliminate it, don't think so.

Notice how the ozone hole is above the poles. What causes that?

Answer: Cold air.

Also notice how Demcrats are on both sides of this. They want to stop ozone depletion, and decrease any new ozone being released.

They got us coming and going....

Thup:

O3 is a separate issue.

Most ozone is produced by Sunlight reacting with water vapor from our oceans.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What was Barry doing at a Wallyworld?

I thought progressives hated those stores.

Promoting the nationalizing of retail stores.

The democrat dream is the federal government running retail.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Nah, Obama's not like Hitler.

Not at all.

But he DOES happen to be a LOT like Pol Pot....

Obama: leader of the Khmer Rouge democrats.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Climate deniers should be forced to continually defend their position, the petro industry bought those opinions, they should get their money's worth.

Whereas you of the AGW cult don't do science - you look to priests for "truth."

 

[Uncensored2008]

should he start a war with china and Russia to make the rightwingnuts happy?

Jillian, we all realize that you're not the sharpest marshmallow in the bag; but don't you Obamunists demand that the "right" wants to "ship all the jobs to China?" (though 90% of offshoring occurred under Clinton.. )

So if these EVIL capitalist running dog pigs are shipping all the jobs to China, as your GLORIOUS party claims, then why would they want a war? Wouldn't that fuck up the whole nefarious plan?

I know, you never thought of this - you've never thought at all - the party tells you what you think.

or can we control what we do?

p.s. last I checked the president wasn't president of either Russia or china.

I hope that helps.

Have another bon bon, it's almost time for "Law & Order."

 

[zeke]

The real truth is that the GW fear mongers ignore everything. YOU ignore the EPA chart showing a shape decline in CO2 emissions. I am not sure what the GW hand wringers even want. More Eagles killed in dreamland wind mills? More land grabs by the BLM to construct unprofitable, non-base load, solar? All the hand wringing on a 1.5 degree change in 100 years. WHOW!! The only true environmental thing to do is hydro but ood luck getting that built with liberals running amuck. The GW fear mongers wanted a drop in CO2 emission and got it and that still isn't good enough. Meanwhile China and India, along with most of the rest of the world, is laughing at the US. They are more then happy to pick up our manufacturing base to satisfy the GW fear.

And here I thought you were going to answer my question. Or at least contribute something worth while to the GW debate.

Instead it the same ole bull shit. Wtf is wrong with you right wing whack jobs? Answer a simple question for once.

In earths history when has man burnt coal and oil at comparable levels to what we burn coal and oil now? And what was the result?

You right wing whackers claim to know all about this topic, so come on and answer a simple question.

Man hasn't been through many ice age cycles, and except for this one, man wasn't keeping any records. However, your question has no bearing on anything other than your own ignorance. We had a mini ice age over the North Atlantic before we were burning coal and oil at today's level, and we had an interglacial warm period before we were burning coal and oil at today's level. Obviously, the burning of coal and oil didn't cause either event.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and greenhouse gasses trap heat. Increases in CO2 in the earth's atmosphere traps heat, and causes some degree of warming. Imagine how cold last winter would have been without the mitigation caused by greenhouse gasses.

You loons seem to want to debate simple science, while ignoring the real questions concerning global climate change. The projections of gloom and doom are based on computer models, and computer models are no better than the assumptions used to create them. When computer models cannot reliably predict the known past, they cannot reliably predict the future. So much for your "settled science".

Not to mention that the words "maybe", likely, etc., are not "scientific" terms, and therefore statements made that contain those words are not valid scientific statements, and they are definitely not "settled science".

Really? Simple science would say the this experiment of burning trillions of pounds of carbon (coal, oil) and putting that into the atmosphere has an unknown outcome. That's the simple truth.
But the likelihood of it not having some harmful effect is low. Being as how for some reason the evolution of this planet came up with a plan to store the excess carbon in the way of a solid (coal)and a liquid (oil). Not a gas. Simple science. Common sense.

 

[Uncensored2008]

97% of Climate Scientists agree with man made global warming

And in an odd turn of events, it turns out that 97% of "climate scientists" depend on government grants that would dry up if they found against AGW...

Imagine that!

97% of "scientists" working for the Vatican in 1564 agreed that the sun revolved around the Earth. It was "settled science."

In fact, ALL "settled science" is of exactly that nature.

The overwhelming majority of industrialized nations are in consensus

The overwhelming majority of Catholic nations were in consensus.

The US is split among party lines with the Democrats agreeing with the Climate Scientists and the Republicans agreeing with the oil companies

Venice split along party lines with the heretics denying "settled science."

 

[Newby]

LOL how do you shut down CO2 emissions completely? Do you even realize how idiotic that statement is? Why does it have to be all or nothing with you simple minded people?

And how do you explain every other industrialized country in the world you says AGW is very much real? Carbon credits and democrats corruption there too?

By taxing it to the point where the common person cannot afford energy, only enough to subsist. How do poor people afford to fill their gas tanks? Yet someone like you will tell them that it's because of evil oil companies that the prices are so high, when in fact the very government that you promote and defend is making billions more off of gas than any oil company. It's all 'for their own good' of course.

Yes, we understand how you buy into the meme that your energy prices have to rise for the good of the world at large, while they sit there and line their pockets with your money and you sit there and applaud them for their selfless efforts to 'save the world' at the same time.

And how do you explain every other industrialized country in the world who says AGW is very much real? Carbon credits and democrats corruption there too?

What other 'industrialized' countries, and what are they doing about it besides shuffling money around?

 

[Uncensored2008]

The climate has been changing for millions of years. No one disputes that fact. What is disputed is that man is the cause.

What is really disputed is the socialistic response advocated by AGW supporters. More government control, less freedom, more taxes, lower standards of living.

This message brought to you by the petroleum industry. What the hell is there to love about the oil companies that regular people with no stake in the profits rally to their banner? Is there a secret climate deniers discount card that gets you 3 cents off a gallon of fuel?

^^^^^^

This message brought to you by "Totalitarians for a more orderly world."

 

[RKMBrown]

Notice how the ozone hole is above the poles. What causes that?

Answer: Cold air.

Also notice how Demcrats are on both sides of this. They want to stop ozone depletion, and decrease any new ozone being released.

They got us coming and going....

Thup:

O3 is a separate issue.

Most ozone is produced by Sunlight reacting with water vapor from our oceans.

ah... I'm warming up to your point now, thx.

 

[RDD_1210]

By taxing it to the point where the common person cannot afford energy, only enough to subsist. How do poor people afford to fill their gas tanks? Yet someone like you will tell them that it's because of evil oil companies that the prices are so high, when in fact the very government that you promote and defend is making billions more off of gas than any oil company. It's all 'for their own good' of course.

Yes, we understand how you buy into the meme that your energy prices have to rise for the good of the world at large, while they sit there and line their pockets with your money and you sit there and applaud them for their selfless efforts to 'save the world' at the same time.

And how do you explain every other industrialized country in the world who says AGW is very much real? Carbon credits and democrats corruption there too?

What other 'industrialized' countries, and what are they doing about it besides shuffling money around?

Every single country. Every one. Name a country. Your pick. Not one denies AGW is very much real.

Let me guess, global conspiracy to line Al Gores pockets? Right?

 

[RKMBrown]

And how do you explain every other industrialized country in the world who says AGW is very much real? Carbon credits and democrats corruption there too?

What other 'industrialized' countries, and what are they doing about it besides shuffling money around?

Every single country. Every one. Name a country. Your pick. Not one denies AGW is very much real.

Let me guess, global conspiracy to line Al Gores pockets? Right?

March of the lemmings.

 

[RDD_1210]

What other 'industrialized' countries, and what are they doing about it besides shuffling money around?

Every single country. Every one. Name a country. Your pick. Not one denies AGW is very much real.

Let me guess, global conspiracy to line Al Gores pockets? Right?

March of the lemmings.

That's a pretty accurate description of the deniers. Thanks.

 

[whitehall]

What do you expect? In an administration plagued by scandal after scandal the best defense is an end run to the global warming goal post. Stupid low information lefties get a familiar enemy and the liberal media gets a breather to reinforce it's defenses around the criminal enterprise.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,


1. Has anyone noticed this is one of the coldest years on record?
2. Still digging out in the central north.
3. I keep telling you that in America we have one of the stupidest populations walking around on two feet, being in a first world economy.
4. Look around morons, all the high tech companies are hiring people from other Nations....
5. There is a good reason for that, think about it for a second,.....yeah,...there you go, there it is,...... its because you're to fucking stupid to get hired my friend, ......thats okay shit happens,....... and you run to the poles and vote for Obama's third term, if you can......


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[Erand7899]

And how do you explain every other industrialized country in the world who says AGW is very much real? Carbon credits and democrats corruption there too?

What other 'industrialized' countries, and what are they doing about it besides shuffling money around?

Every single country. Every one. Name a country. Your pick. Not one denies AGW is very much real.

Let me guess, global conspiracy to line Al Gores pockets? Right?

Countries don't have opinions, people do. Many of the governments of those countries figure that they will be on the receiving end of the money train, and they don't care whether manmade climate change is real, or not, as long as they get their share of the rakeoff.

Now, you name a country that is willing to sacrifice the standard of living of its citizens, to curtail manmade climate change?

 

[MaryL]

Meanwhile back at the ranch: Global warming isn't a fake issue or cause made up by liberals, it's happening, people are not making this issue up, like gay rights. It's real. And it is going to effect everyone sooner or later.

 

[Meister]

Meanwhile back at the ranch: Global warming isn't a fake issue or cause made up by liberals, it's happening, people are not making this issue up, like gay rights. It's real. And it is going to effect everyone sooner or later.

With global warming....what is real is the need to follow the money.