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Obama Commissioned Study Proves Gun Control Doesn't Work

Clementine

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Obama commissioned a study in hopes that it would support the liberal effort to control guns. He must have been horribly disappointed when the study proved otherwise.

Here are some things discovered by the study:

Mass murders declined over the years and only accounted for a fraction of all deaths by murder. We know that more people are murdered in one year in Chicago than by mass murderers in the last 30 years. I am not minimizing the trauma suffered by those killed, but we need to be thankful that mass murder is so rare. Using school shootings as a reason for gun control is just exploiting the tragedies.

Suicide by fire arms account for a large percent of deaths by shooting. If a person is determined to commit suicide, there are countless methods, so lack of a gun would not make much of a difference.

Defense is as common as offense. People defending themselves from a murderer is as common as people being murdered.

Accidental shootings account for only 1% of accidental deaths. It's easy to say that even one accidental death is too many and you'd be right, however, no amount of laws will ever prevent this as long as people remain human.

Without areas of restricted gun use, the U.S. is normal compared to other countries. Interesting that if you exclude figures for Illinois, California, New Jersey and Washington, D.C., the homicide rate in the U.S. is about the same as other countries. Looks like the places with stricter gun control are the same places that bring murder rates in the U.S. way up.

Criminals are not affected by laws. Most obtain their weapons from underground operations.

Gun control just isn't effective. Increased background checks and restrictions showed mixed results. Turn-in programs are ineffective in reducing crimes. Many of the guns turned in were broken and couldn't be used anyway.

Gun control would result in even more deaths each year. Looks like some liberal politicians could seriously reduce the murder rate by guns in their cities by removing some restrictions. Wonder if they value life enough to actually make the right call. As it is, gun laws merely provide a feeling of safety for criminals who want to kill, not die because their intended victim is armed.

Meanwhile, knives remain the weapon of choice. Studies have shown that women are more likely to comply with a criminal holding a knife, while they are less frightened of a criminal with a gun. Getting stabbed is more deadly. It's hard to shoot a moving target and people can survive a gun shot wound more often than stab wounds. Has the left shown concern for the number of people stabbed to death each year? No, that doesn't fit in anywhere with their agenda. They want control over people. People with knives are defenseless against armed drones and private armies of the president. People with guns scare the shit out of them because you cannot control a populace that has freedom and liberty and no intention of giving it up.

Government being afraid of the people means freedom and liberty for the people. People afraid of government means tyranny and oppression. We know the left prefers to be dictated over (or more like being the dictators), but real Americans like freedom and liberty.

7 Findings From a Study Obama Commissioned That Prove His Gun Control Agenda Won't Work

7 Findings From a Study Obama Commissioned That Prove His Gun Control Agenda Won't Work | Independent Journal Review | Page 8
 
But but but.....Oh Just Shut Up!
 
That's why they were originally called

OUTLAWS

Because they live and operate

OUTSIDE

the

LAW

If politicians used the word "outlaw"" instead of "criminal" when they say "We to keep the guns out of the hands of criminals with our new laws" it would sound ridiculous if they used the appropriate term:

"We want to keep guns out of the hands of OUTLAWS with our new laws."
 
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Obama commissioned a study in hopes that it would support the liberal effort to control guns. He must have been horribly disappointed when the study proved otherwise.

Here are some things discovered by the study:

Mass murders declined over the years and only accounted for a fraction of all deaths by murder. We know that more people are murdered in one year in Chicago than by mass murderers in the last 30 years. I am not minimizing the trauma suffered by those killed, but we need to be thankful that mass murder is so rare. Using school shootings as a reason for gun control is just exploiting the tragedies.

Suicide by fire arms account for a large percent of deaths by shooting. If a person is determined to commit suicide, there are countless methods, so lack of a gun would not make much of a difference.

Defense is as common as offense. People defending themselves from a murderer is as common as people being murdered.

Accidental shootings account for only 1% of accidental deaths. It's easy to say that even one accidental death is too many and you'd be right, however, no amount of laws will ever prevent this as long as people remain human.

Without areas of restricted gun use, the U.S. is normal compared to other countries. Interesting that if you exclude figures for Illinois, California, New Jersey and Washington, D.C., the homicide rate in the U.S. is about the same as other countries. Looks like the places with stricter gun control are the same places that bring murder rates in the U.S. way up.

Criminals are not affected by laws. Most obtain their weapons from underground operations.

Gun control just isn't effective. Increased background checks and restrictions showed mixed results. Turn-in programs are ineffective in reducing crimes. Many of the guns turned in were broken and couldn't be used anyway.

Gun control would result in even more deaths each year. Looks like some liberal politicians could seriously reduce the murder rate by guns in their cities by removing some restrictions. Wonder if they value life enough to actually make the right call. As it is, gun laws merely provide a feeling of safety for criminals who want to kill, not die because their intended victim is armed.

Meanwhile, knives remain the weapon of choice. Studies have shown that women are more likely to comply with a criminal holding a knife, while they are less frightened of a criminal with a gun. Getting stabbed is more deadly. It's hard to shoot a moving target and people can survive a gun shot wound more often than stab wounds. Has the left shown concern for the number of people stabbed to death each year? No, that doesn't fit in anywhere with their agenda. They want control over people. People with knives are defenseless against armed drones and private armies of the president. People with guns scare the shit out of them because you cannot control a populace that has freedom and liberty and no intention of giving it up.

Government being afraid of the people means freedom and liberty for the people. People afraid of government means tyranny and oppression. We know the left prefers to be dictated over (or more like being the dictators), but real Americans like freedom and liberty.

7 Findings From a Study Obama Commissioned That Prove His Gun Control Agenda Won't Work

7 Findings From a Study Obama Commissioned That Prove His Gun Control Agenda Won't Work | Independent Journal Review | Page 8

i posted the study yesterday no lefties commented on it

maybe you will have better luck

--LOL
 
still no responses

--LOL

Still no responses.

Hey, libs, Obama ordered this study. Don't be sore losers. Admit you were wrong and then ask yourself why the Obama administration is so hellbent on gun control. If it's not about safety, then what is the reason?

Control.
 
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so where are our tree-hugger bleeding heart hardcore anti-gun wingnuts ?
 
ATTENTION: The source linked in the OP is the biggest bunch of bullshit propaganda spin I've ever seen.

They cherry-pick lines out of the study and assign new conclusions to them, ignoring the conclusion in the study.

NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG....

 
a interesting point made in the obama study on firearms was

that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals

between 300 thousand and 3 million defensive uses a year
 
ATTENTION: The source linked in the OP is the biggest bunch of bullshit propaganda spin I've ever seen.

They cherry-pick lines out of the study and assign new conclusions to them, ignoring the conclusion in the study.

NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG....


you would like to throw it out

however this study is not all that much different from the 2003 which then too found

In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence
 
ATTENTION: The source linked in the OP is the biggest bunch of bullshit propaganda spin I've ever seen.

They cherry-pick lines out of the study and assign new conclusions to them, ignoring the conclusion in the study.

NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG....


you would like to throw it out

however this study is not all that much different from the 2003 which then too found

In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence

It also agrees and aligns with the DoJ Crime and Victimization Surveys from the 1970's through 2000.
 
Poor shitbag liberals, their agenda keeps getting derailed by cold hard facts.
 
If the OP wants more comments, might I suggest posting the study - rather than an inept commentary about the study?

This sentence, for instance:

Using school shootings as a reason for gun control is just exploiting the tragedies.

Seems to be saying avery similar thing to this comment:

But but but.....Oh Just Shut Up!
 
You can usually tell when the average Liberal poster has lost on the facts of an issue.

They start posing Caps, Large Letters, and different colors as if that were going to chase away the facts they don't like.
 
You can usually tell when the average Liberal poster has lost on the facts of an issue.

They start posing Caps, Large Letters, and different colors as if that were going to chase away the facts they don't like.

You think boedicca and 2nd Amendment are liberals....?
 
Obama commissioned a study in hopes that it would support the liberal effort to control guns. He must have been horribly disappointed when the study proved otherwise.

Here are some things discovered by the study:

Mass murders declined over the years and only accounted for a fraction of all deaths by murder. We know that more people are murdered in one year in Chicago than by mass murderers in the last 30 years. I am not minimizing the trauma suffered by those killed, but we need to be thankful that mass murder is so rare. Using school shootings as a reason for gun control is just exploiting the tragedies.

Suicide by fire arms account for a large percent of deaths by shooting. If a person is determined to commit suicide, there are countless methods, so lack of a gun would not make much of a difference.

Defense is as common as offense. People defending themselves from a murderer is as common as people being murdered.

Accidental shootings account for only 1% of accidental deaths. It's easy to say that even one accidental death is too many and you'd be right, however, no amount of laws will ever prevent this as long as people remain human.

Without areas of restricted gun use, the U.S. is normal compared to other countries. Interesting that if you exclude figures for Illinois, California, New Jersey and Washington, D.C., the homicide rate in the U.S. is about the same as other countries. Looks like the places with stricter gun control are the same places that bring murder rates in the U.S. way up.

Criminals are not affected by laws. Most obtain their weapons from underground operations.

Gun control just isn't effective. Increased background checks and restrictions showed mixed results. Turn-in programs are ineffective in reducing crimes. Many of the guns turned in were broken and couldn't be used anyway.

Gun control would result in even more deaths each year. Looks like some liberal politicians could seriously reduce the murder rate by guns in their cities by removing some restrictions. Wonder if they value life enough to actually make the right call. As it is, gun laws merely provide a feeling of safety for criminals who want to kill, not die because their intended victim is armed.

Meanwhile, knives remain the weapon of choice. Studies have shown that women are more likely to comply with a criminal holding a knife, while they are less frightened of a criminal with a gun. Getting stabbed is more deadly. It's hard to shoot a moving target and people can survive a gun shot wound more often than stab wounds. Has the left shown concern for the number of people stabbed to death each year? No, that doesn't fit in anywhere with their agenda. They want control over people. People with knives are defenseless against armed drones and private armies of the president. People with guns scare the shit out of them because you cannot control a populace that has freedom and liberty and no intention of giving it up.

Government being afraid of the people means freedom and liberty for the people. People afraid of government means tyranny and oppression. We know the left prefers to be dictated over (or more like being the dictators), but real Americans like freedom and liberty.

7 Findings From a Study Obama Commissioned That Prove His Gun Control Agenda Won't Work

7 Findings From a Study Obama Commissioned That Prove His Gun Control Agenda Won't Work | Independent Journal Review | Page 8

Gun control is extremely effective when you remove all guns from society. This is a very simple concept. The problem is that we will never do this, therefore, gun control cannot be effective if people can still attain guns outside of areas covered by gun control. People living in Chicago are not protected by gun control laws because anyone can go to Indiana to buy a gun. Hell, they can just buy one on the streets if they look hard enough. It's not like they're not available.
 
Obama commissioned a study in hopes that it would support the liberal effort to control guns. He must have been horribly disappointed when the study proved otherwise.

Here are some things discovered by the study:

Mass murders declined over the years and only accounted for a fraction of all deaths by murder. We know that more people are murdered in one year in Chicago than by mass murderers in the last 30 years. I am not minimizing the trauma suffered by those killed, but we need to be thankful that mass murder is so rare. Using school shootings as a reason for gun control is just exploiting the tragedies.

Suicide by fire arms account for a large percent of deaths by shooting. If a person is determined to commit suicide, there are countless methods, so lack of a gun would not make much of a difference.

Defense is as common as offense. People defending themselves from a murderer is as common as people being murdered.

Accidental shootings account for only 1% of accidental deaths. It's easy to say that even one accidental death is too many and you'd be right, however, no amount of laws will ever prevent this as long as people remain human.

Without areas of restricted gun use, the U.S. is normal compared to other countries. Interesting that if you exclude figures for Illinois, California, New Jersey and Washington, D.C., the homicide rate in the U.S. is about the same as other countries. Looks like the places with stricter gun control are the same places that bring murder rates in the U.S. way up.

Criminals are not affected by laws. Most obtain their weapons from underground operations.

Gun control just isn't effective. Increased background checks and restrictions showed mixed results. Turn-in programs are ineffective in reducing crimes. Many of the guns turned in were broken and couldn't be used anyway.

Gun control would result in even more deaths each year. Looks like some liberal politicians could seriously reduce the murder rate by guns in their cities by removing some restrictions. Wonder if they value life enough to actually make the right call. As it is, gun laws merely provide a feeling of safety for criminals who want to kill, not die because their intended victim is armed.

Meanwhile, knives remain the weapon of choice. Studies have shown that women are more likely to comply with a criminal holding a knife, while they are less frightened of a criminal with a gun. Getting stabbed is more deadly. It's hard to shoot a moving target and people can survive a gun shot wound more often than stab wounds. Has the left shown concern for the number of people stabbed to death each year? No, that doesn't fit in anywhere with their agenda. They want control over people. People with knives are defenseless against armed drones and private armies of the president. People with guns scare the shit out of them because you cannot control a populace that has freedom and liberty and no intention of giving it up.

Government being afraid of the people means freedom and liberty for the people. People afraid of government means tyranny and oppression. We know the left prefers to be dictated over (or more like being the dictators), but real Americans like freedom and liberty.

7 Findings From a Study Obama Commissioned That Prove His Gun Control Agenda Won't Work

7 Findings From a Study Obama Commissioned That Prove His Gun Control Agenda Won't Work | Independent Journal Review | Page 8

Gun control is extremely effective when you remove all guns from society. This is a very simple concept. The problem is that we will never do this, therefore, gun control cannot be effective if people can still attain guns outside of areas covered by gun control. People living in Chicago are not protected by gun control laws because anyone can go to Indiana to buy a gun. Hell, they can just buy one on the streets if they look hard enough. It's not like they're not available.

Gun control is extremely effective when you have a nation of sheep who are willing to give up their guns. This is a very simple concept. The problem is that, other than libs, we are not a nation of sheep.
 
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