Obama: Inability to get tougher gun laws shameful

[rightwinger]

First, you can't punish a person for a crime they MIGHT commit.

Second, as I already expressed, if folks believe their rights will be curtailed due to seeking treatment for problems like depression...they simply won't seek treatment.

Lastly, what happens to the doctor patient privilege under your plan?

Medical professionals ALREADY have an ethical obligation to report that patients are a danger to themselves or others...and they don't, for fear of being sued by their charges...like Loughner for example.

Sure you can. We do it all the time. People on psychotic medications are restricted from driving. That impacts them more than restricting their guns

No doctor/patient privilege.......doctor/patient responsibility.

Sorry gun nuts, but there are bigger problems with these people's lives than not being able to own guns

Your insistence that families report their own, is far too Totalitarian for my tastes.

Fortunately, most of America feels the same wary.

All you have to do is ask those families whether they want to show some responsibility or live the rest of their lives with blood on their hands asking......could I have done something?

 

[Jughead]

Exasperated Obama: Inability to get tougher gun laws shameful - CNN.com

I will tell you, I have been in Washington for a while now. Most things don't surprise me. The fact that 20 six year olds were gunned down in the most violent fashion possible and this town couldn't do anything about it was stunning to me," he said.

I will tell you, this country was not founded upon your anti-freedom, oppressive-dictatorial mindset. If you want stricter gun control, nothing is preventing you from leaving this country and moving to a socialist or communist dictatorship of your choice where firearm ownership is forbidden. You can live in your tyrannical utopia and be happy. I'll be more than glad to drive my very large boot up your ass on the way out to further expedite your departure.

Yup, he'd be right at home in communist or socialist countries what with all the fellow progressives and no constitution or 2nd Amendment to worry about. It'll be a blast. He'll give up his freedom, but that's a minor detail, however on a positive note, he'll have ample opportunity to worship and it's actually encouraged. Except for one minor detail. He will only be allowed to worship his new leader, not his God.

 

[The Rabbi]

My plan is to stop protecting their rights as crazy fuckers and to stop protecting gun rights for crazy fuckers

If a crazy fucker cannot go out and buy the Bushmaster that he has been fantasizing about, I really don't care

We need families to start reporting their crazy fucker sons and stop buying them guns for their birthdays. We need parents to not allow their crazy fucker sons to have guns in the house

We need medical professionals to report crazy fucker patients. If you are on certain meds, no guns for you. If you are depressed, no guns for you. If you beat your wife, no guns for you.

It wont stop every crazy fucker, but it is a good start

Adam Lanza was a crazy fucker. He tried buying a gun and while he would have passed the background check--and any other kind of check anyone could produce, he didnt bother with all that and simply took his mom's guns instead. Or he could have taken his neighbor's guns. Or he could have bought guns someone else stole elsewhere.
So you can prohibit every crazy fucker from buying a gun legally, but that leaves all the illegal means. What will you do about that? Pass a law?

As I said...


We need families to start reporting their crazy fucker sons and stop buying them guns for their birthdays. We need parents to not allow their crazy fucker sons to have guns in the house


Lanza, Holmes, Cho, Kliebold, Dylan.......all had families that enabled their killing spree. We need a societal change. If you are afraid of your kids, others need to be too. Don't buy them guns, do not allow them to have guns in your home, do not have guns yourself

Lanza's mom didnt buy him a gun for his birthday. He stole her's, shot her to death with it, and went on his merry way.
What law do you propose to stop that?

 

[rightwinger]

Adam Lanza was a crazy fucker. He tried buying a gun and while he would have passed the background check--and any other kind of check anyone could produce, he didnt bother with all that and simply took his mom's guns instead. Or he could have taken his neighbor's guns. Or he could have bought guns someone else stole elsewhere.
So you can prohibit every crazy fucker from buying a gun legally, but that leaves all the illegal means. What will you do about that? Pass a law?

As I said...


We need families to start reporting their crazy fucker sons and stop buying them guns for their birthdays. We need parents to not allow their crazy fucker sons to have guns in the house


Lanza, Holmes, Cho, Kliebold, Dylan.......all had families that enabled their killing spree. We need a societal change. If you are afraid of your kids, others need to be too. Don't buy them guns, do not allow them to have guns in your home, do not have guns yourself

Lanza's mom didnt buy him a gun for his birthday. He stole her's, shot her to death with it, and went on his merry way.
What law do you propose to stop that?

Reading comprehension problems this evening?

 

[Missourian]

My plan is to stop protecting their rights as crazy fuckers and to stop protecting gun rights for crazy fuckers

If a crazy fucker cannot go out and buy the Bushmaster that he has been fantasizing about, I really don't care

We need families to start reporting their crazy fucker sons and stop buying them guns for their birthdays. We need parents to not allow their crazy fucker sons to have guns in the house

We need medical professionals to report crazy fucker patients. If you are on certain meds, no guns for you. If you are depressed, no guns for you. If you beat your wife, no guns for you.

It wont stop every crazy fucker, but it is a good start

First, you can't punish a person for a crime they MIGHT commit.

Second, as I already expressed, if folks believe their rights will be curtailed due to seeking treatment for problems like depression...they simply won't seek treatment.

Lastly, what happens to the doctor patient privilege under your plan?

Medical professionals ALREADY have an ethical obligation to report that patients are a danger to themselves or others...and they don't, for fear of being sued by their charges...like Loughner for example.

Sure you can. We do it all the time. People on psychotic medications are restricted from driving. That impacts them more than restricting their guns

No doctor/patient privilege.......doctor/patient responsibility.

Sorry gun nuts, but there are bigger problems with these people's lives than not being able to own guns

Show me. Because I googled "Driving Antipsychotics law" and I found nothing.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

First, you can't punish a person for a crime they MIGHT commit.

Second, as I already expressed, if folks believe their rights will be curtailed due to seeking treatment for problems like depression...they simply won't seek treatment.

Lastly, what happens to the doctor patient privilege under your plan?

Medical professionals ALREADY have an ethical obligation to report that patients are a danger to themselves or others...and they don't, for fear of being sued by their charges...like Loughner for example.

Sure you can. We do it all the time. People on psychotic medications are restricted from driving. That impacts them more than restricting their guns

No doctor/patient privilege.......doctor/patient responsibility.

Sorry gun nuts, but there are bigger problems with these people's lives than not being able to own guns

Show me. Because I googled "Driving Antipsychotics law" and I found nothing.

Any medication that effects your ability to drive can get you banned from driving, the problem is Rightwinger can't prove his contention.

For example I take Geodon and am not banned from driving nor owning firearms.

 

[Noomi]

Exasperated Obama: Inability to get tougher gun laws shameful - CNN.com

I will tell you, I have been in Washington for a while now. Most things don't surprise me. The fact that 20 six year olds were gunned down in the most violent fashion possible and this town couldn't do anything about it was stunning to me," he said.

Bolded part isn't true. They wouldn't do anything about it, because they cared more about their 2nd Amendment 'rights' than the rights of those children.

 

[Missourian]

Sure you can. We do it all the time. People on psychotic medications are restricted from driving. That impacts them more than restricting their guns

No doctor/patient privilege.......doctor/patient responsibility.

Sorry gun nuts, but there are bigger problems with these people's lives than not being able to own guns

Show me. Because I googled "Driving Antipsychotics law" and I found nothing.

Any medication that effects your ability to drive can get you banned from driving, the problem is Rightwinger can't prove his contention.

For example I take Geodon and am not banned from driving nor owning firearms.

Gotcha...driving while impaired is illegal.

But we don't prohibit people from buying cars because they take a medication that may or may not impair their driving.

We trust them to obey the law and not drive if they are impaired.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Show me. Because I googled "Driving Antipsychotics law" and I found nothing.

Any medication that effects your ability to drive can get you banned from driving, the problem is Rightwinger can't prove his contention.

For example I take Geodon and am not banned from driving nor owning firearms.

Gotcha...driving while impaired is illegal.

But we don't prohibit people from buying cars because they take a medication that may or may not impair their driving.

We trust them to obey the law and not drive is they are impaired.

I imagine several of the old school anti psychotics would impair driving they were crude and powerful and definitely effect your ability to drive. The new stuff is more subtle and less impairing. But they still use the old stuff like haladol ( can't spell it).

 

[Missourian]

Exasperated Obama: Inability to get tougher gun laws shameful - CNN.com

I will tell you, I have been in Washington for a while now. Most things don't surprise me. The fact that 20 six year olds were gunned down in the most violent fashion possible and this town couldn't do anything about it was stunning to me," he said.

Bolded part isn't true. They wouldn't do anything about it, because they cared more about their 2nd Amendment 'rights' than the rights of those children.

Yes, I care about my rights.

Are you saying you don't?

We could put more murderers behind bars if we did away with the right to due process and the right to be free from illegal search and seizure.

We could just trust the government and the police to just do the right thing.

Do you not care about getting murderers off the street?

Then why to you support these rights?

Finally, what gun control would have stopped Lanza?

He didn't buy a gun...he took it.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Australia is a lot like England, they have no rights they are subjects and at the whim of their Parliament.

 

[hunarcy]

Exasperated Obama: Inability to get tougher gun laws shameful - CNN.com

I will tell you, I have been in Washington for a while now. Most things don't surprise me. The fact that 20 six year olds were gunned down in the most violent fashion possible and this town couldn't do anything about it was stunning to me," he said.

Bolded part isn't true. They wouldn't do anything about it, because they cared more about their 2nd Amendment 'rights' than the rights of those children.

Yes, I care about my rights.

Are you saying you don't?

We could put more murderers behind bars if we did away with the right to due process and the right to be free from illegal search and seizure.

We could just trust the government and the police to just do the right thing.

Do you not care about getting murderers off the street?

Then why to you support these rights?

Finally, what gun control would have stopped Lanza?

He didn't buy a gun...he took it.

That one isn't in the US and so shouldn't have a voice in the conversation.

 

[Geaux4it]

Again, I have a new law.

Beat the shit out of the parents of these whackjobs.

This is about home training and nothing more.

-Geaux

 

[jon_berzerk]

Sure you can. We do it all the time. People on psychotic medications are restricted from driving. That impacts them more than restricting their guns

No doctor/patient privilege.......doctor/patient responsibility.

Sorry gun nuts, but there are bigger problems with these people's lives than not being able to own guns

Show me. Because I googled "Driving Antipsychotics law" and I found nothing.

Any medication that effects your ability to drive can get you banned from driving, the problem is Rightwinger can't prove his contention.

For example I take Geodon and am not banned from driving nor owning firearms.

i dont believe rigtwinger is correct at all

throwing out for a second the obvious flaws at hand

one that it is a state issue not federal one

two driving in public is not a right

while firearms are

take seizure incidents folks can lose driving privilege for uncontrolled seizure activity

without due process

not for the medications they take to control it but for the seizures themselves

and after x amount of time being

seizure free they can once again legally drive

 

[Kosh]

Another far left fail thread.

The far left would much rather see the world burn than admit they are wrong.

 

[The Rabbi]

As I said...


We need families to start reporting their crazy fucker sons and stop buying them guns for their birthdays. We need parents to not allow their crazy fucker sons to have guns in the house


Lanza, Holmes, Cho, Kliebold, Dylan.......all had families that enabled their killing spree. We need a societal change. If you are afraid of your kids, others need to be too. Don't buy them guns, do not allow them to have guns in your home, do not have guns yourself

Lanza's mom didnt buy him a gun for his birthday. He stole her's, shot her to death with it, and went on his merry way.
What law do you propose to stop that?

Reading comprehension problems this evening?

Translation: I have no solution except a total ban on guns.
Of course that wont work either.

 

[The Rabbi]

Exasperated Obama: Inability to get tougher gun laws shameful - CNN.com

I will tell you, I have been in Washington for a while now. Most things don't surprise me. The fact that 20 six year olds were gunned down in the most violent fashion possible and this town couldn't do anything about it was stunning to me," he said.

Bolded part isn't true. They wouldn't do anything about it, because they cared more about their 2nd Amendment 'rights' than the rights of those children.

Yes, I care about my rights.

Are you saying you don't?

We could put more murderers behind bars if we did away with the right to due process and the right to be free from illegal search and seizure.

We could just trust the government and the police to just do the right thing.

Do you not care about getting murderers off the street?

Then why to you support these rights?

Finally, what gun control would have stopped Lanza?

He didn't buy a gun...he took it.

The liberal mind is impervious to facts.
I remember when liberals stood for personal freedom and controls on government.l Yes, I'm that old.

 

[Kondor3]

Lanza's mom didnt buy him a gun for his birthday. He stole her's, shot her to death with it, and went on his merry way.
What law do you propose to stop that?

Reading comprehension problems this evening?

Translation: I have no solution except a total ban on guns. Of course that wont work either.

It will, if we follow RW's lead, and force families to inform on their members...

 

[Kondor3]

...The liberal mind is impervious to facts. I remember when liberals stood for personal freedom and controls on government.l Yes, I'm that old.

Long ago, in a galaxy far, far away...

 

[Spoonman]

Exasperated Obama: Inability to get tougher gun laws shameful - CNN.com

I will tell you, I have been in Washington for a while now. Most things don't surprise me. The fact that 20 six year olds were gunned down in the most violent fashion possible and this town couldn't do anything about it was stunning to me," he said.

perhaps the town could do somthing about it if they focused on the real problem instead of their agenda