Obama just lied again about pipeline

[Misty]

He said it wouldn't benefit the United States. Let's see if the msm vets him about this lie. Doubt it.

"When considering the domestically-produced petroleum products that this pipeline would introduce into the American economy, as well as the new employment opportunities created by the pipeline and the increased profits accrued by American firms as a result of its operation, it’s clear that Keystone would have a measurable positive impact on the American economy.

“The White House declined to provide an on-the-record defense of the president’s statement,” Kessler concluded. “That certainly suggests officials are unwilling to make a public case contradicting the State Department findings.” He dubbed Obama’s statement a willfully misleading “whopper” by giving it an ignominious four Pinocchios."

WaPo: Obama is lying to you about Keystone « Hot Air

 

[nuhuh]

If Canada is committed to Keystone it will be built in Canada. Let the attendant pollution be their problem and the 35 jobs, well they can keep them.

 

[tinydancer]

If Canada is committed to Keystone it will be built in Canada. Let the attendant pollution be their problem and the 35 jobs, well they can keep them.

The Keystone is finished to the Gulf. Started pumping Canuck crude in January 2014.

This just has been a huge dog and pony show over the XL which would have helped out the Bakkens and is just a short extension.

 

[SwimExpert]

He said it wouldn't benefit the United States. Let's see if the msm vets him about this lie. Doubt it.

"When considering the domestically-produced petroleum products that this pipeline would introduce into the American economy, as well as the new employment opportunities created by the pipeline and the increased profits accrued by American firms as a result of its operation, it’s clear that Keystone would have a measurable positive impact on the American economy.

“The White House declined to provide an on-the-record defense of the president’s statement,” Kessler concluded. “That certainly suggests officials are unwilling to make a public case contradicting the State Department findings.” He dubbed Obama’s statement a willfully misleading “whopper” by giving it an ignominious four Pinocchios."

WaPo: Obama is lying to you about Keystone « Hot Air

Analyses have long been done on the XL proposal, and the findings were very clear:

-The XL would divert oil away from the mid-west region to the Gulf, to be sold internationally, resulting in higher pump prices in the heartland of the country.

-These higher pump prices would most likely result in increased consumer prices on many goods, due to higher transportation costs, with the ultimately likely result being lost jobs

-The jobs lost would be greater than jobs created by the XL

 

[tinydancer]

Doesn't anyone find it odd that Enbridge another Canuck Company was able to build the Alberta Clipper and Southern Lights in this same time period?

 

[tinydancer]

Just let me put this in crayon.

 

[SwimExpert]

Just let me put this in crayon.

That's about the extent of your mental ability, so that's appropriate.

 

[tinydancer]

He said it wouldn't benefit the United States. Let's see if the msm vets him about this lie. Doubt it.

"When considering the domestically-produced petroleum products that this pipeline would introduce into the American economy, as well as the new employment opportunities created by the pipeline and the increased profits accrued by American firms as a result of its operation, it’s clear that Keystone would have a measurable positive impact on the American economy.

“The White House declined to provide an on-the-record defense of the president’s statement,” Kessler concluded. “That certainly suggests officials are unwilling to make a public case contradicting the State Department findings.” He dubbed Obama’s statement a willfully misleading “whopper” by giving it an ignominious four Pinocchios."

WaPo: Obama is lying to you about Keystone « Hot Air

Analyses have long been done on the XL proposal, and the findings were very clear:

-The XL would divert oil away from the mid-west region to the Gulf, to be sold internationally, resulting in higher pump prices in the heartland of the country.

-These higher pump prices would most likely result in increased consumer prices on many goods, due to higher transportation costs, with the ultimately likely result being lost jobs

-The jobs lost would be greater than jobs created by the XL

Complete and utter bullshit. Absolute bullshit. XL would be the extension that would help out the Bakken fields. Thats why this awesome D Senator Heidi Heitkamp has been begging Obama to approve the XL.

And the crude is coming via rail, transport and barge to the Gulf. It's not stopping.

"Linkages to move Canadian crude to the Gulf have already been built, and workarounds to Keystone XL are under way.

TransCanada split the original Keystone project in two so it could move ahead with its 400,000-bpd Marketlink southern leg, which runs from the Cushing oil hub to the Gulf Coast.

Seven new or expanded pipeline projects aimed at moving Canadian crude to the Gulf Coast are slated to start up by 2016, adding combined capacity of 2.5 million bpd. Those include the 450,000-bpd Seaway Twin, a Cushing-to-Texas joint venture of Enterprise Products Partners and Enbridge that is awaiting flows from Enbridge’s 600,000-bpd Flanagan South Illinois-to-Cushing line later this year.

The Twin runs parallel to the original Seaway pipeline, which Enterprise and Enbridge reversed and expanded to 400,000 bpd from 150,000 bpd early last year to move Cushing flows south. Some of the crude transported in the original Seaway is Canadian, while the Twin will move most if not all Canadian.

Enbridge’s plans to sharply expand its 450,000-bpd Alberta Clipper system, which moves Canadian crude to the company’s U.S. system, is caught up in the same kind of permitting delays that have dogged Keystone XL. Now the company is contemplating the construction of a 140,000-bpd crude-train unloading terminal in Illinois to help fill Flanagan South and the Seaway Twin.

Other projects are already there. More than a dozen rail or rail-to-barge projects along the Gulf Coast and Mississippi River can receive a total of 1.2 million bpd."

No Keystone? No worries

 

[tinydancer]

He said it wouldn't benefit the United States. Let's see if the msm vets him about this lie. Doubt it.

"When considering the domestically-produced petroleum products that this pipeline would introduce into the American economy, as well as the new employment opportunities created by the pipeline and the increased profits accrued by American firms as a result of its operation, it’s clear that Keystone would have a measurable positive impact on the American economy.

“The White House declined to provide an on-the-record defense of the president’s statement,” Kessler concluded. “That certainly suggests officials are unwilling to make a public case contradicting the State Department findings.” He dubbed Obama’s statement a willfully misleading “whopper” by giving it an ignominious four Pinocchios."

WaPo: Obama is lying to you about Keystone « Hot Air

No kidding. Check this out.

Sep 19 2013
Heitkamp Calls on President to Approve Keystone XL Pipeline on Five Year Anniversary of Project Application
In a Letter to the President, Senator Outlines her recent Trip to the Canadian Oil Sands & How it Reinforced the Need for the Project
WASHINGTON, D.C. – On the five year anniversary of the application for the Keystone XL pipeline, U.S. Senator Heidi Heitkamp today called on President Obama to recognize the project is in the United States’ national interest and approve it.

In a letter to the President, Heitkamp explained how her trip last month to view development of the Canadian oil sands reinforced how crucial the pipeline is to the U.S. During the trip, she met with stakeholders in the extraction, production, and transportation industries, and discussed with Canadian officials their efforts to minimize the pipeline’s impact on the environment.

“It’s disappointing we’re at this point where five years later we still don’t have an answer on the Keystone XL pipeline,” said Senator Heitkamp. “Just last month, I visited the oil sands in Canada and it only reinforced how critical the Keystone XL pipeline would be to North Dakota and the U.S. To my knowledge, no senior members of the Administration have visited the oil sands. But, in order to make an informed decision about this project, such a trip is needed to see the technology firsthand, clarify many of the issues the Administration thinks it may have with the project, and fully realize the responsible impact it could have on the U.S.

“It’s in our economic, national security, and energy interests to approve this pipeline from our neighbor and ally as we continue to build an all-of-the-above energy strategy that could lead us toward North American energy independence. This project needs to be approved.”

Heitkamp Calls on President to Approve Keystone XL Pipeline on Five Year Anniversary of Project Application - Press Releases - United States Senator Heidi Heitkamp

 

[tinydancer]

Just let me put this in crayon.

That's about the extent of your mental ability, so that's appropriate.

Going personal so early in the game now? I keep smoking you with facts and I realize you're getting a tad testy.

Try decaff.

 

[SwimExpert]

Going personal so early in the game now?

You use crayons to argue politics, there's nothing of substance to discuss. All I can do is point out that you're using crayons to talk politics. If you take that as a personal attack, maybe you should to some self reflection.

 

[SwimExpert]

He said it wouldn't benefit the United States. Let's see if the msm vets him about this lie. Doubt it.

"When considering the domestically-produced petroleum products that this pipeline would introduce into the American economy, as well as the new employment opportunities created by the pipeline and the increased profits accrued by American firms as a result of its operation, it’s clear that Keystone would have a measurable positive impact on the American economy.

“The White House declined to provide an on-the-record defense of the president’s statement,” Kessler concluded. “That certainly suggests officials are unwilling to make a public case contradicting the State Department findings.” He dubbed Obama’s statement a willfully misleading “whopper” by giving it an ignominious four Pinocchios."

WaPo: Obama is lying to you about Keystone « Hot Air

Analyses have long been done on the XL proposal, and the findings were very clear:

-The XL would divert oil away from the mid-west region to the Gulf, to be sold internationally, resulting in higher pump prices in the heartland of the country.

-These higher pump prices would most likely result in increased consumer prices on many goods, due to higher transportation costs, with the ultimately likely result being lost jobs

-The jobs lost would be greater than jobs created by the XL

Complete and utter bullshit. Absolute bullshit. XL would be the extension that would help out the Bakken fields. Thats why this awesome D Senator Heidi Heitkamp has been begging Obama to approve the XL.

And the crude is coming via rail, transport and barge to the Gulf. It's not stopping.

"Linkages to move Canadian crude to the Gulf have already been built, and workarounds to Keystone XL are under way.

TransCanada split the original Keystone project in two so it could move ahead with its 400,000-bpd Marketlink southern leg, which runs from the Cushing oil hub to the Gulf Coast.

Seven new or expanded pipeline projects aimed at moving Canadian crude to the Gulf Coast are slated to start up by 2016, adding combined capacity of 2.5 million bpd. Those include the 450,000-bpd Seaway Twin, a Cushing-to-Texas joint venture of Enterprise Products Partners and Enbridge that is awaiting flows from Enbridge’s 600,000-bpd Flanagan South Illinois-to-Cushing line later this year.

The Twin runs parallel to the original Seaway pipeline, which Enterprise and Enbridge reversed and expanded to 400,000 bpd from 150,000 bpd early last year to move Cushing flows south. Some of the crude transported in the original Seaway is Canadian, while the Twin will move most if not all Canadian.

Enbridge’s plans to sharply expand its 450,000-bpd Alberta Clipper system, which moves Canadian crude to the company’s U.S. system, is caught up in the same kind of permitting delays that have dogged Keystone XL. Now the company is contemplating the construction of a 140,000-bpd crude-train unloading terminal in Illinois to help fill Flanagan South and the Seaway Twin.

Other projects are already there. More than a dozen rail or rail-to-barge projects along the Gulf Coast and Mississippi River can receive a total of 1.2 million bpd."

No Keystone? No worries

 

[Misty]

Just let me put this in crayon.

That's about the extent of your mental ability, so that's appropriate.

In my thread don't use dumb card. . It's weak.

 

[Misty]

He said it wouldn't benefit the United States. Let's see if the msm vets him about this lie. Doubt it.

"When considering the domestically-produced petroleum products that this pipeline would introduce into the American economy, as well as the new employment opportunities created by the pipeline and the increased profits accrued by American firms as a result of its operation, it’s clear that Keystone would have a measurable positive impact on the American economy.

“The White House declined to provide an on-the-record defense of the president’s statement,” Kessler concluded. “That certainly suggests officials are unwilling to make a public case contradicting the State Department findings.” He dubbed Obama’s statement a willfully misleading “whopper” by giving it an ignominious four Pinocchios."

WaPo: Obama is lying to you about Keystone « Hot Air

Analyses have long been done on the XL proposal, and the findings were very clear:

-The XL would divert oil away from the mid-west region to the Gulf, to be sold internationally, resulting in higher pump prices in the heartland of the country.

-These higher pump prices would most likely result in increased consumer prices on many goods, due to higher transportation costs, with the ultimately likely result being lost jobs

-The jobs lost would be greater than jobs created by the XL

Complete and utter bullshit. Absolute bullshit. XL would be the extension that would help out the Bakken fields. Thats why this awesome D Senator Heidi Heitkamp has been begging Obama to approve the XL.

And the crude is coming via rail, transport and barge to the Gulf. It's not stopping.

"Linkages to move Canadian crude to the Gulf have already been built, and workarounds to Keystone XL are under way.

TransCanada split the original Keystone project in two so it could move ahead with its 400,000-bpd Marketlink southern leg, which runs from the Cushing oil hub to the Gulf Coast.

Seven new or expanded pipeline projects aimed at moving Canadian crude to the Gulf Coast are slated to start up by 2016, adding combined capacity of 2.5 million bpd. Those include the 450,000-bpd Seaway Twin, a Cushing-to-Texas joint venture of Enterprise Products Partners and Enbridge that is awaiting flows from Enbridge’s 600,000-bpd Flanagan South Illinois-to-Cushing line later this year.

The Twin runs parallel to the original Seaway pipeline, which Enterprise and Enbridge reversed and expanded to 400,000 bpd from 150,000 bpd early last year to move Cushing flows south. Some of the crude transported in the original Seaway is Canadian, while the Twin will move most if not all Canadian.

Enbridge’s plans to sharply expand its 450,000-bpd Alberta Clipper system, which moves Canadian crude to the company’s U.S. system, is caught up in the same kind of permitting delays that have dogged Keystone XL. Now the company is contemplating the construction of a 140,000-bpd crude-train unloading terminal in Illinois to help fill Flanagan South and the Seaway Twin.

Other projects are already there. More than a dozen rail or rail-to-barge projects along the Gulf Coast and Mississippi River can receive a total of 1.2 million bpd."

No Keystone? No worries

STFU troll

 

[Misty]

He said it wouldn't benefit the United States. Let's see if the msm vets him about this lie. Doubt it.

"When considering the domestically-produced petroleum products that this pipeline would introduce into the American economy, as well as the new employment opportunities created by the pipeline and the increased profits accrued by American firms as a result of its operation, it’s clear that Keystone would have a measurable positive impact on the American economy.

“The White House declined to provide an on-the-record defense of the president’s statement,” Kessler concluded. “That certainly suggests officials are unwilling to make a public case contradicting the State Department findings.” He dubbed Obama’s statement a willfully misleading “whopper” by giving it an ignominious four Pinocchios."

WaPo: Obama is lying to you about Keystone « Hot Air

Analyses have long been done on the XL proposal, and the findings were very clear:

-The XL would divert oil away from the mid-west region to the Gulf, to be sold internationally, resulting in higher pump prices in the heartland of the country.

-These higher pump prices would most likely result in increased consumer prices on many goods, due to higher transportation costs, with the ultimately likely result being lost jobs

-The jobs lost would be greater than jobs created by the XL

Analysis by whom?

 

[tinydancer]

Going personal so early in the game now?

You use crayons to argue politics, there's nothing of substance to discuss. All I can do is point out that you're using crayons to talk politics. If you take that as a personal attack, maybe you should to some self reflection.

I put up the fucking MAP. Made a joke about crayons that you obviously don't get.

While posting the truth of the matter and that was the section from Cushing to the Gulf existed. And you continue. Getting ready to go hunting in a minute.

Will see you soon. My neighbor just got a biggie. His first muzzle loader. He pulled off awesome.

 

[tinydancer]

Just to put it out there he got a 10 point irregular. This is so awesome.

 

[tinydancer]

He said it wouldn't benefit the United States. Let's see if the msm vets him about this lie. Doubt it.

"When considering the domestically-produced petroleum products that this pipeline would introduce into the American economy, as well as the new employment opportunities created by the pipeline and the increased profits accrued by American firms as a result of its operation, it’s clear that Keystone would have a measurable positive impact on the American economy.

“The White House declined to provide an on-the-record defense of the president’s statement,” Kessler concluded. “That certainly suggests officials are unwilling to make a public case contradicting the State Department findings.” He dubbed Obama’s statement a willfully misleading “whopper” by giving it an ignominious four Pinocchios."

WaPo: Obama is lying to you about Keystone « Hot Air

Analyses have long been done on the XL proposal, and the findings were very clear:

-The XL would divert oil away from the mid-west region to the Gulf, to be sold internationally, resulting in higher pump prices in the heartland of the country.

-These higher pump prices would most likely result in increased consumer prices on many goods, due to higher transportation costs, with the ultimately likely result being lost jobs

-The jobs lost would be greater than jobs created by the XL

Complete and utter bullshit. Absolute bullshit. XL would be the extension that would help out the Bakken fields. Thats why this awesome D Senator Heidi Heitkamp has been begging Obama to approve the XL.

And the crude is coming via rail, transport and barge to the Gulf. It's not stopping.

"Linkages to move Canadian crude to the Gulf have already been built, and workarounds to Keystone XL are under way.

TransCanada split the original Keystone project in two so it could move ahead with its 400,000-bpd Marketlink southern leg, which runs from the Cushing oil hub to the Gulf Coast.

Seven new or expanded pipeline projects aimed at moving Canadian crude to the Gulf Coast are slated to start up by 2016, adding combined capacity of 2.5 million bpd. Those include the 450,000-bpd Seaway Twin, a Cushing-to-Texas joint venture of Enterprise Products Partners and Enbridge that is awaiting flows from Enbridge’s 600,000-bpd Flanagan South Illinois-to-Cushing line later this year.

The Twin runs parallel to the original Seaway pipeline, which Enterprise and Enbridge reversed and expanded to 400,000 bpd from 150,000 bpd early last year to move Cushing flows south. Some of the crude transported in the original Seaway is Canadian, while the Twin will move most if not all Canadian.

Enbridge’s plans to sharply expand its 450,000-bpd Alberta Clipper system, which moves Canadian crude to the company’s U.S. system, is caught up in the same kind of permitting delays that have dogged Keystone XL. Now the company is contemplating the construction of a 140,000-bpd crude-train unloading terminal in Illinois to help fill Flanagan South and the Seaway Twin.

Other projects are already there. More than a dozen rail or rail-to-barge projects along the Gulf Coast and Mississippi River can receive a total of 1.2 million bpd."

No Keystone? No worries

I'm on the hunt now. I'll be back. My neighbor just got a ten point. I know where my boy is going to be. It hurts. But today maybe today I'll get him. And he will feed so many.

 

[SwimExpert]

I put up the fucking MAP. Made a joke about crayons that you obviously don't get.

While posting the truth of the matter and that was the section from Cushing to the Gulf existed. And you continue. Getting ready to go hunting in a minute.

Will see you soon. My neighbor just got a biggie. His first muzzle loader. He pulled off awesome.

I'm sorry, can you translate that into English? I don't speak little bitch.

 

[tinydancer]

I put up the fucking MAP. Made a joke about crayons that you obviously don't get.

While posting the truth of the matter and that was the section from Cushing to the Gulf existed. And you continue. Getting ready to go hunting in a minute.

Will see you soon. My neighbor just got a biggie. His first muzzle loader. He pulled off awesome.

I'm sorry, can you translate that into English? I don't speak little bitch.

My neighbor just got a ten point buck.First time he worked a muzzle loader.

It's called hunting. And he just rocked it.