Obama Killed Coal

[g5000]

Here's the truth, staring you right in the face, willfully blind monkeys:

You can do that once again for all industry's, why the fuck do we need to subsidize 400,000 plus workers to produce around 8% of the energy needs of this country when we only need less then 100,000 to produce 50% of the electricity needed?


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Coal dropped to 30 percent. Natural gas is kicking coal's ass. Nothing to do with Obama. Sorry!

And you REALLY need to learn how to use the quote function. It isn't that fucking hard, kid.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Here's the truth, staring you right in the face, willfully blind monkeys:

You can do that once again for all industry's, why the fuck do we need to subsidize 400,000 plus workers to produce around 8% of the energy needs of this country when we only need less then 100,000 to produce 50% of the electricity needed?


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Coal dropped to 30 percent. Natural gas is kicking coal's ass. Nothing to do with Obama. Sorry!

And you REALLY need to learn how to use the quote function. It isn't that fucking hard, kid.

Here's the truth, staring you right in the face, willfully blind monkeys:

You can do that once again for all industry's, why the fuck do we need to subsidize 400,000 plus workers to produce around 8% of the energy needs of this country when we only need less then 100,000 to produce 50% of the electricity needed?


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Coal dropped to 30 percent. Natural gas is kicking coal's ass. Nothing to do with Obama. Sorry!

And you REALLY need to learn how to use the quote function. It isn't that fucking hard, kid.

You really are an ignoramus and protectecd Obama's assine EPA at every turn..


You really want to hide the fact of Obama's rules and regulations unheard of from the American public.


You can try and I will keep on fighting you.


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[NYcarbineer]

...The Great Smog of London, or Great Smog of 1952 sometimes called the Big Smoke,[1] was a severe air-pollution event that affected the British capital of London in December 1952. A period of cold weather, combined with an anticyclone and windless conditions, collected airborne pollutants – mostly arising from the use of coal – to form a thick layer of smog over the city. It lasted from Friday, 5 December to Tuesday, 9 December 1952 and then dispersed quickly when the weather changed.

It caused major disruption by reducing visibility and even penetrating indoor areas, far more severe than previous smog events experienced in the past, called "pea-soupers". Government medical reports in the following weeks, however, estimated that up until 8 December, 4,000 people had died as a direct result of the smog and 100,000 more were made ill by the smog's effects on the human respiratory tract. More recent research suggests that the total number of fatalities was considerably greater, about 12,000.[2]..

Great Smog of London - Wikipedia

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Pittsburgh in the 1940s at the height of the Coal Era...

And the idiot Pubs want to turn back the clock on this...

It won't go back to that, moron, because coal fire plants burn 1000 times cleaner than they used to.

Thanks to government regulations.

The same result could have been achieved through the tort system.

lol, the tort system as you call it is a massive set of government laws, rules, and regulations.

 

[bripat9643]

...The Great Smog of London, or Great Smog of 1952 sometimes called the Big Smoke,[1] was a severe air-pollution event that affected the British capital of London in December 1952. A period of cold weather, combined with an anticyclone and windless conditions, collected airborne pollutants – mostly arising from the use of coal – to form a thick layer of smog over the city. It lasted from Friday, 5 December to Tuesday, 9 December 1952 and then dispersed quickly when the weather changed.

It caused major disruption by reducing visibility and even penetrating indoor areas, far more severe than previous smog events experienced in the past, called "pea-soupers". Government medical reports in the following weeks, however, estimated that up until 8 December, 4,000 people had died as a direct result of the smog and 100,000 more were made ill by the smog's effects on the human respiratory tract. More recent research suggests that the total number of fatalities was considerably greater, about 12,000.[2]..

Great Smog of London - Wikipedia

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Pittsburgh in the 1940s at the height of the Coal Era...

And the idiot Pubs want to turn back the clock on this...

It won't go back to that, moron, because coal fire plants burn 1000 times cleaner than they used to.

Thanks to government regulations.

The same result could have been achieved through the tort system.

lol, the tort system as you call it is a massive set of government laws, rules, and regulations.

They are rules established by the natural process of people resolving their disputes in a civilized matter. They aren't arbitrary fiats laid down by unelected bureaucrats with agendas other than the best interests of the affected parties.

 

[danielpalos]

Kill coal and then you kill steel,

Can't produce steel without coal.

No steel, no ..........??

The answer is liberal joy about jobs going to China and bitching about jobs going to China.

Nonsense, no one is proposing outlawing coal. The regulations are not unreasonable.

That is practically what Obama did, numskull. If you make the regulations onerous enough, then you have effectively outlawed it.

Should we convince Mr. Say, to say that renewable energies are the, "cleaner way to go".

 

[Dr Grump]

There's nothing wrong with that either.

Yeah there is. It puts a lot of shit into the air.

 

[Dr Grump]

[Q
Well they are if you burn bio mass in Europe

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I don't live in Europe.

 

[usmbguest5318]

"Recent conventional energy supply-side options have typically cost between $0.07 and $0.15 per kWh — about three to four times the cost of energy efficiency investments … In 2008, pulverized coal cost between $0.07 and $0.14 per kWh, combined-cycle natural gas cost between $0.07 and $0.10 per kWh, and wind cost between $0.04 and $0.09 per kWh"
Source.

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Now, Trump thinks we should invest in the coal industry rather than in renewable sources of energy. I think that's a ridiculous idea because no matter how efficient we can make coal and other fossil fuel driven energy production, the fact of the matter is those sources of energy will eventually become exhausted. I guess Trump's never heard the axiom "don't put off until tomorrow what one can do today."

 

[danielpalos]

solar ovens seem pretty interesting, during the summer.

 

[jc456]

are we still here? such useless information from the left. oh hum

 

[danielpalos]

I saw a video on YouTube where a research doctor had his interns build a compost pile for off grid, hot water use. Tubing coiled in the compost pile supplied enough hot water for over a month. Seems like it could be applied to urban settings, somehow.

 

[bripat9643]

There's nothing wrong with that either.

Yeah there is. It puts a lot of shit into the air.

CO2 is a harmless gas that's good for plants.

 

[Dr Grump]

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CO2 is a harmless gas that's good for plants.

And the other particulate that gets put in the air. You know the shit that causes smog and keep people indoors because the air quality is shit?

 

[RealDave]

The Majority of power produced in this country is produced by coal fired power plants, natural gas is a close second.
Renewable energy is decades away from being reliable and affordable… Fact

When you think of coal mining, don't be a dip shit. Wyoming is the mother load not the northeast and it's open pit not underground tunnels. idiots

• Natural gas = 33.8%
• Coal = 30.4%
• Nuclear = 19.7%
• Renewables (total) = 14.9%
  • Hydropower = 6.5%
  • Wind = 5.6%
  • Biomass = 1.5%
    
  • Solar = 0.9%
  • Geothermal = 0.4%
• Petroleum = 0.6%
• Other gases = 0.3%
• Other nonrenewable sources = 0.3%
• Pumped storage hydroelectricity = -0.2%4

BTW, before coal emissions became an issue,m Wyoming coal was considered worthless. (Low btu).

So when the environmentalists (you know, the people you hate) started in about pollution & especially SO2, Wyoming coal became popular because its lowSO2r.

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[RealDave]

There's nothing wrong with that either.

Yeah there is. It puts a lot of shit into the air.

CO2 is a harmless gas that's good for plants.

Lets experiment. You in a closed room as we raise the percentage of CO2.

 

[Rustic]

The Majority of power produced in this country is produced by coal fired power plants, natural gas is a close second.
Renewable energy is decades away from being reliable and affordable… Fact

When you think of coal mining, don't be a dip shit. Wyoming is the mother load not the northeast and it's open pit not underground tunnels. idiots

• Natural gas = 33.8%
• Coal = 30.4%
• Nuclear = 19.7%
• Renewables (total) = 14.9%
  • Hydropower = 6.5%
  • Wind = 5.6%
  • Biomass = 1.5%
    
  • Solar = 0.9%
  • Geothermal = 0.4%
• Petroleum = 0.6%
• Other gases = 0.3%
• Other nonrenewable sources = 0.3%
• Pumped storage hydroelectricity = -0.2%4

BTW, before coal emissions became an issue,m Wyoming coal was considered worthless. (Low btu).

So when the environmentalists (you know, the people you hate) started in about pollution & especially SO2, Wyoming coal became popular because its lowSO2r.

They are hiring again in Wyoming… That's all that matters

 

[Wyatt earp]

There's nothing wrong with that either.

Yeah there is. It puts a lot of shit into the air.

CO2 is a harmless gas that's good for plants.

Lets experiment. You in a closed room as we raise the percentage of CO2.

Since when is the earth in a bubble?


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[Rustic]

There's nothing wrong with that either.

Yeah there is. It puts a lot of shit into the air.

CO2 is a harmless gas that's good for plants.

Lets experiment. You in a closed room as we raise the percentage of CO2.

Since when is the earth in a bubble?


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Oh no! The polar bears are drowning…

 

[bripat9643]

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CO2 is a harmless gas that's good for plants.

And the other particulate that gets put in the air. You know the shit that causes smog and keep people indoors because the air quality is shit?

Coal fired power plants are 99% cleaner than they used to be. They are cleaner than your automobile.

Did you stop driving?

 

[Aletheia4u]

Damn you, Obama! Damn you!

Oh, wait...

What!!!, Obama was never against coal mining. He was just making sure that other countries can have the chance to burn clean energy too. Big corporations just paid him to make it sounds as if coal is bad, and Big corporations solutions are good.


Environmental experts who remain unimpressed with President Barack Obama’s war-on-carbon rhetoric point to one key reason for concern that’s off most Americans’ radar: U.S. coal exports.

A push to expand coal mining operations in the Powder River Basin of Montana and Wyoming, and to build three ports in Oregon and Washington to ship the fuel to Asia, could create more national and global environmental impact than a Canadian company’s proposal to ferry Albertan tar sands to the U.S. Gulf Coast via the Keystone XL pipeline. Yet these remote projects are not getting the attention they deserve, critics suggest, and they fear Obama may be overlooking, apathetic to, or even supportive of them.

“If we were serious about doing something about global warming, the federal government certainly wouldn’t be talking about controlling the burning of coal in the U.S. on the one hand while encouraging the export of coal to the rest of the world to be burned,” said Thomas M. Power, research professor and professor emeritus of economics at the University of Montana in Missoula. Coal Exports Contradict Obama's Climate Pledge, Critics Say | HuffPost

Obama's Not Really Waging a War on Coal — But China Is | VICE News

Unusual? Yeah right...

After Australian cyclone, coking coal spikes as China chases U.S. supplies