Obama Killed Coal

[bripat9643]

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It doesn't cover oil and gas.

Yes it does!
The Mining Law gives anyone the right to stake a mining claim on open public land if they discover a “valuable deposit” of minerals. All other types of mine proposals (e.g. coal, oil, and gas) on public lands must be weighed against other potential land uses before permittal.

You don't use mines to get oil and gas.

EARTHWORKS | General Mining Law of 1872​

The Mining Law promotes development by allowing mining interests to --

• take valuable hardrock minerals including gold, silver, and uranium from public lands without royalty payment to the taxpayer -- unlike other mining industries that extract coal, oil or natural gas;

The "unlike" part has to do with royalties.
The part you left out:

Multinational mining companies extract over a billion dollars of public minerals from public lands each year. Coal, oil, and natural gas companies pay a 8 to 12.5% royalty for extracting resources from federal public lands. The Mining Law also offers mineral bearing public land for sale at $2.50 - $5 per acre – 1872 prices.

So, in other words, corporations don't get to pump oil out of the ground for free. They have to pay for it. They negotiate oil leases with the federal government.

That isn't a subsidy, bonehead.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

You're too lazy to verify your own comments. Explains how Trump got elected

You are the one that is uninformed or misinformed on the issue so you look it up.

You never have looked up anything, except your ass. Troll.

 

[bripat9643]

First of all coal is not dead, it is rebounding. Union coal Jobs are back! Do some homework silly boys.

Read 'em and weep...

If coal jobs are back, it's merely a blip on the scope... a flea...a pimple... and nothing like pre-1950 Glory Days, which are never, ever coming back...

Nobody wants to burn that dirty $hit and foul-up their air unless they absolutely have to...

That's why God invented oil-burning and gas-burning and nuclear power stations, and wind farms, and solar power, all of which get more and more traction, every year...

Regardless of which full-of-$hit political party is in power...

Your graph shows that coal consumption hasn't declined, but you claimed that no one wants to "burn the dirty shit." In fact, if not regulated out existence, coal is the cheapest source of energy there is. With modern methods of power production, coal is quite clean. CO2 isn't pollution. In fact, it's good for the environment. Plants need it to live, and more CO2 increases the productivity of agriculture and makes the earth more green.

 

[Rustic]

Renewable energy technologies are improving all the time.

True, wait until they're ready. Cold turkey is for losers

 

[Tom Horn]

Coal is more alive than the leftist trash in this thread. Clean coal and liquified coal are more a part of the future than bird-murdering wind farms and landfills full of dead solar batteries. 2/3rds of the world still needs coal whether the pansies like it or not. BTW, thanks to President Trump, a new coal mine just opened in Pennsylvania....how could that be?

 

[WaitingFor2020]

Damn you, Obama! Damn you!

Oh, wait...

These coal miners do not realize that the jobs have moved onto high tech, and other means of energy.... Even though they are lied to by the politicians saying that their jobs will return

High tech?

500 plus year old wind Mills is high tech?


150 year old electric cars is high tech?


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Ask these two kids, if they wished wind Mills were never built...(they both died)




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Windmills have many tens of thousands more people to kill before they catch up to coal.

OMG, they're not trying to say windmills are dangerous...no way.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

Coal is more alive than the leftist trash in this thread. Clean coal and liquified coal are more a part of the future than bird-murdering wind farms and landfills full of dead solar batteries. 2/3rds of the world still needs coal whether the pansies like it or not. BTW, thanks to President Trump, a new coal mine just opened in Pennsylvania....how could that be?

Do you still get around by horse, too?

"The horse is here to stay but the automobile is only a novelty - a fad." - The president of the Michigan Savings Bank advising Henry Ford's lawyer, Horace Rackham, not to invest in the Ford Motor Co., 1903
Worst Predictions

 

[Rustic]

Coal is more alive than the leftist trash in this thread. Clean coal and liquified coal are more a part of the future than bird-murdering wind farms and landfills full of dead solar batteries. 2/3rds of the world still needs coal whether the pansies like it or not. BTW, thanks to President Trump, a new coal mine just opened in Pennsylvania....how could that be?

Do you still get around by horse, too?

"The horse is here to stay but the automobile is only a novelty - a fad." - The president of the Michigan Savings Bank advising Henry Ford's lawyer, Horace Rackham, not to invest in the Ford Motor Co., 1903
Worst Predictions

Thats why an all of the above strategy is best... tell renewable energy is absolutely reliable and affordable we have oceans of "fossil fuels" to use up... lol

 

[bripat9643]

Coal is more alive than the leftist trash in this thread. Clean coal and liquified coal are more a part of the future than bird-murdering wind farms and landfills full of dead solar batteries. 2/3rds of the world still needs coal whether the pansies like it or not. BTW, thanks to President Trump, a new coal mine just opened in Pennsylvania....how could that be?

Coal is the only hope for much of Africa to advance into the modern industrial age. By banning coal the left is consigning a billion people to poverty, starvation and death.

 

[bripat9643]

Coal is more alive than the leftist trash in this thread. Clean coal and liquified coal are more a part of the future than bird-murdering wind farms and landfills full of dead solar batteries. 2/3rds of the world still needs coal whether the pansies like it or not. BTW, thanks to President Trump, a new coal mine just opened in Pennsylvania....how could that be?

Do you still get around by horse, too?

"The horse is here to stay but the automobile is only a novelty - a fad." - The president of the Michigan Savings Bank advising Henry Ford's lawyer, Horace Rackham, not to invest in the Ford Motor Co., 1903
Worst Predictions

When did the federal government start subsidizing the auto industry?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Coal is more alive than the leftist trash in this thread. Clean coal and liquified coal are more a part of the future than bird-murdering wind farms and landfills full of dead solar batteries. 2/3rds of the world still needs coal whether the pansies like it or not. BTW, thanks to President Trump, a new coal mine just opened in Pennsylvania....how could that be?

Do you still get around by horse, too?

"The horse is here to stay but the automobile is only a novelty - a fad." - The president of the Michigan Savings Bank advising Henry Ford's lawyer, Horace Rackham, not to invest in the Ford Motor Co., 1903
Worst Predictions

Your electric car is way earlier then that


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[Wyatt earp]

You ever hear of RTOs idiot?

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Your in a thread talking technology and you don't even know what they are ?


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[Wyatt earp]

HUGE MAP DUDE.

Here are the facts.

Trump's Coal Spin - FactCheck.org

What do you think only 100 plus days of 40 years of the war on coal is going to change anything in and instant?


Again why do you rich Lefty' or children living with your parents hate the



Poor?

Why?
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You want to force them to pay for Obama care now you want to force them to pay for higher energy cost...

Because you can sleep good at night?
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LOL - yea gowd forbid we don't let them externalize the costs of environmental damage and black lung. True strory, it's right there in the Leviticus.

This is your plan while you sit around gulping energy from your convient power plant down the street?

Making it more expensive for poor people to heat their homes and businesses to cool.their homes less unfortunate then you?

Where is your compassion, don't you want them to take vacations like you?
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Here are the GULPING! sources in New York:

So how many niagra falls do we have in the world? idiot....

 

[Dr Grump]

Your in a thread talking technology and you don't even know what they are ?


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I don't live in the US. I know what they are but they are irrelevant to me.

 

[Dr Grump]

Kill coal and then you kill steel,

Can't produce steel without coal.

No steel, no ..........??

The answer is liberal joy about jobs going to China and bitching about jobs going to China.

Nothing wrong with producing coal for steel. Producing coal to burn is another story altogether.

 

[bripat9643]

Kill coal and then you kill steel,

Can't produce steel without coal.

No steel, no ..........??

The answer is liberal joy about jobs going to China and bitching about jobs going to China.

Nothing wrong with producing coal for steel. Producing coal to burn is another story altogether.

There's nothing wrong with that either.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Your in a thread talking technology and you don't even know what they are ?


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I don't live in the US. I know what they are but they are irrelevant to me.

Well they are if you burn bio mass in Europe.


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[g5000]

Your graph shows that coal consumption hasn't declined

What has not sunk into the heads of you dolts is that the number of coal JOBS has declined. And those jobs are not coming back.

Trump spit in your faces, and you say, "Yummy!"

Suckers!

 

[g5000]

Here's what the about Trump's promise to bring back coal jobs:

“I suggested that he temper his expectations. Those are my exact words,” said Murray. “He can’t bring them back.”

Suckers!

 

[g5000]

I guess coal miners don't buy Playboy for the articles.

Too bad. They would have seen what the condescending New York liberal really thinks of them.