Obama looks so small compared to this great man

He revamped and strengthened the US military.

If the military was so strong under Reagan why did he turn tale and run from Lebanon?


Yeah, I figured this was the lay of the land.

The reason you're dismissive of Reagan is because you don't want what is good for America. You want to see America ground down, and you will sneer at anyone who prevents that.

Got it.
:lol:

Allie's acid trip just took her back to 2004!
 
To be honest, I don't see anybody of Reagan-calibre in either party right now.

Reagan wasn't that great of a President. He didn't really do anything great.


  • Tax hiker (11 times, including the largest EVER)
  • Amnesty-giver
  • Cut-and-runner
  • Deficit exploder
  • Religious fundamentalist kowtow-er
  • Illegal arms salesman
  • Nun murderers supporter
  • Figurehead puppet
  • Corporate shill
  • Bad actor
  • Confused old man

What have I left out?

Great man, great leader, inspirational figure, great communicator, the only President we have had in the last 35 years that understood how to defeat communism...and many other qualities. Some of what you said was true...no doubt. But there is a difference between candor and cruelty. You crossed the line. Confused old man....whatever. You diminish yourself when you bring shit like that.
 
No matter how much liberals try to define Ronald Reagan By "Iran contra" it's not going to happen. Ronald Reagan restored American prestige and power in the world after our military was decimated by Carter. We couldn't even execute a descent rescue attempt because our special opts were so poor. One of the The first things Reagan did when he took office was to unleash our energy production, cut regulation and our fuel prices plummeted after the debacle of the long gas lines of the Carter administration.

Reagan reformed the tax code and cut overall rates which lead to massive economic boom which created trillions in new wealth. Moved millions out of poverty and lower middles class into higher income brackets. As far as Iran contra goes Ollie North is a patriot and anything Reagan did he did for this country and those Americans held hostage abroad. Reagan never did anything for personal gain. In Afghanistan the Russians were defeated which hastened the collapse of the Soviet empire, 10s of millions of people were freed because of Reagan and Thatcher. We stopped the spread of Communism is South America, and the Iran, Iraq war was good for us at the time in that it slowed the spread of radicalism in that region.
 
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No matter how much liberals try to define Ronald Reagan By "Iran contra" it's not going to happen. Ronald Reagan restored American prestige and power in the world after our military was decimated by Carter. We couldn't even execute a descent rescue attempt because our special opts were so poor. One of the The first things Reagan did when he took office was to unleash our energy production, cut regulation and our fuel prices plummeted after the debacle of the long gas lines of the Carter administration.

Reagan reformed the tax code and cut overall rates which lead to massive economic boom which created trillions in new wealth. Moved millions out of poverty and lower middles class into higher income brackets. As far as Iran contra goes Ollie North is a patriot and anything Reagan did he did for this country and those Americans held hostage abroad. Reagan never did anything for personal gain. In Afghanistan the Russians were defeated which hastened the collapse of the Soviet empire, 10s of millions of people were freed because of Reagan and Thatcher. We stopped the spread of Communism is South America, and the Iran, Iraq war was good for us at the time in that it slowed the spread of radicalism in that region.

There is a such thing as the right man (or right woman) at the right time; Reagan was the right man at the right time. No doubt there were some thorns with the roses but the blossoms far outweigh the thorns. If you look at any public figure's record from the local dog catcher all the way up to the President seldom will you find perfection.
 
Reagan was not a great man and he was an even worse president. What he did to people in ths country is crimial. Especially the mentall ill.

“The homeless don’t need our help. They just want everything for free.” -Ronald Reagan

A broad and insulting statement coming from the man who while Governor of California closed almost all of the Mental Health facilities housing the gravely mentally ill without providing a plan for where they would go. Ronald Reagan is directly responsible for raising the amount of the gravely mentally ill homeless people on the streets in California.

Mental illness is the third largest cause for single homeless people. “According to the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, 20 to 25% of the homeless population in the United States suffers from some form of severe mental illness. In comparison, only 6% of Americans are severely mentally ill (National Institute of Mental Health, 2009). “[Source: http://www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/Mental_Illness.pdf]

An inability to work a regular schedule due to mental illness combined with lack of services and instability of medication makes it extremely difficult for the Mentally ill to find and keep housing. Because we have chosen to not provide institutionalized housing or communal housing for the mentally ill, we are seeing exactly what should be expected. People on the streets.

But it is a self perpetuating cycle. Because people have unaddressed problems they will most likely always be homeless. Their chronically untreated conditions do not allow them to get better. They make no money and what money they get panhandling goes straight to self medication in the form of drugs and alcohol. This, because they will never be able to afford appropriate treatment.

Our “Invisible” Population-Homelessness
 
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There were a few things about Reagan that made him more than just a suit...

He gave SPECTACULAR speeches.

He had a wonderful, wry sense of humor and knew how to use it. His one liners are second to NONE and put him in a class with the founding fathers.

Whatever he did, the vision of America that he sold to us was spectacular and moving, and HONORABLE.
 
And Reagan was absolutely right about the homeless, as anyone who has ever worked with them will tell you. They don't want homes, they don't want jobs. They're mentally ill. They want to be left alone, and given what they need.
 
No matter how much liberals try to define Ronald Reagan By "Iran contra" it's not going to happen. Ronald Reagan restored American prestige and power in the world after our military was decimated by Carter. We couldn't even execute a descent rescue attempt because our special opts were so poor. One of the The first things Reagan did when he took office was to unleash our energy production, cut regulation and our fuel prices plummeted after the debacle of the long gas lines of the Carter administration.

Reagan reformed the tax code and cut overall rates which lead to massive economic boom which created trillions in new wealth. Moved millions out of poverty and lower middles class into higher income brackets. As far as Iran contra goes Ollie North is a patriot and anything Reagan did he did for this country and those Americans held hostage abroad. Reagan never did anything for personal gain. In Afghanistan the Russians were defeated which hastened the collapse of the Soviet empire, 10s of millions of people were freed because of Reagan and Thatcher. We stopped the spread of Communism is South America, and the Iran, Iraq war was good for us at the time in that it slowed the spread of radicalism in that region.

Reagan did much, good and bad, that has affected the USA in the 21st century. To deny either is to mock the narrative of this complex figure. Ollie North, in the guise of a patriot, violated his oath as an officer and his duty to the country. He broke the law and he lied under oath. He is much worse a character than Clinton, period.
 
Reagan wasn't that great of a President. He didn't really do anything great.


  • Tax hiker (11 times, including the largest EVER)
  • Amnesty-giver
  • Cut-and-runner
  • Deficit exploder
  • Religious fundamentalist kowtow-er
  • Illegal arms salesman
  • Nun murderers supporter
  • Figurehead puppet
  • Corporate shill
  • Bad actor
  • Confused old man

What have I left out?

Great man, great leader, inspirational figure, great communicator, the only President we have had in the last 35 years that understood how to defeat communism...and many other qualities. Some of what you said was true...no doubt. But there is a difference between candor and cruelty. You crossed the line. Confused old man....whatever. You diminish yourself when you bring shit like that.
Ha! You think I'm taking a swipe at his disease, but he was a confused old man at the beginning of his term. He needed to be scripted from Day One, as Mittens likes to say.
 
"Washington couldn't tell a lie, Nixon couldn't tell the truth, and Reagan couldn't tell the difference."
Mort Sahl

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I never get tired of that one! :lol:
 
  • Tax hiker (11 times, including the largest EVER)
  • Amnesty-giver
  • Cut-and-runner
  • Deficit exploder
  • Religious fundamentalist kowtow-er
  • Illegal arms salesman
  • Nun murderers supporter
  • Figurehead puppet
  • Corporate shill
  • Bad actor
  • Confused old man

What have I left out?

Great man, great leader, inspirational figure, great communicator, the only President we have had in the last 35 years that understood how to defeat communism...and many other qualities. Some of what you said was true...no doubt. But there is a difference between candor and cruelty. You crossed the line. Confused old man....whatever. You diminish yourself when you bring shit like that.
Ha! You think I'm taking a swipe at his disease, but he was a confused old man at the beginning of his term. He needed to be scripted from Day One, as Mittens likes to say.

If you had read Powell's autobiography, you'd learn at least 2 shining examples of why your'e incorrect about that baseless, cruel, and absurd allegation.

If he was confused, gee, what would that make Carter; lobotomized?
 
Great man, great leader, inspirational figure, great communicator, the only President we have had in the last 35 years that understood how to defeat communism...and many other qualities. Some of what you said was true...no doubt. But there is a difference between candor and cruelty. You crossed the line. Confused old man....whatever. You diminish yourself when you bring shit like that.
Ha! You think I'm taking a swipe at his disease, but he was a confused old man at the beginning of his term. He needed to be scripted from Day One, as Mittens likes to say.

If you had read Powell's autobiography, you'd learn at least 2 shining examples of why your'e incorrect about that baseless, cruel, and absurd allegation.

If he was confused, gee, what would that make Carter; lobotomized?

He was a kindly, affable, grandfatherly man. Doesn't change the fact that his altzheimer's had him a confused old man at the beginning of his term and a senile dotard by the end of his term. Which still leaves him far above W.
 
No, it didn't. It took him how long to die?

As anyone who has dealt with Alzheimer's knows, if he was that confused at the beginning of his term, he would have been dead much sooner than he was.
 
No, it didn't. It took him how long to die?

As anyone who has dealt with Alzheimer's knows, if he was that confused at the beginning of his term, he would have been dead much sooner than he was.


We dont agree on much, but we agree on that.

Reagan was showing signs at the end of his second term but he was crystal clear through most of his two terms. You cant be an orator like that and not have all your marbles in order.

And I still think the man was overrated
 
Ha! You think I'm taking a swipe at his disease, but he was a confused old man at the beginning of his term. He needed to be scripted from Day One, as Mittens likes to say.

If you had read Powell's autobiography, you'd learn at least 2 shining examples of why your'e incorrect about that baseless, cruel, and absurd allegation.

If he was confused, gee, what would that make Carter; lobotomized?

He was a kindly, affable, grandfatherly man. Doesn't change the fact that his altzheimer's had him a confused old man at the beginning of his term and a senile dotard by the end of his term. Which still leaves him far above W.

Please Obama can't even address kindergarten kids without a teleprompter
 

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