Obama Signs the Monsanto Protection Act

[longknife]

Monsanto Protection Act

Seen a lot about this on the blogosphere but haven't paid much attention until I saw this [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UN8OgHRPiTo]Mike Adams Breaks Down The Monsanto Worshipping Act - YouTube[/ame]

Worth looking into @ MyWebSearch

more @ Prison Planet.com » Monsanto Protection Act: Dangerous, Blatant Crony Capitalism

 

[Samson]

Hungary Destroys All Monsanto GMO Corn Fields​

>> Hungary has taken a bold stand against biotech giant Monsanto and genetic modification by destroying 1000 acres of maize found to have been grown with genetically modified seeds, according to Hungary deputy state secretary of the Ministry of Rural Development Lajos Bognar.

In a similar stance against GM ingredients, Peru has also passed a 10 year ban on GM foods. <<

(from that ^^ link: )
>> Peru has also taken a stand for health freedom, passing a monumental 10 year ban on genetically modified foods. Amazingly, Peru’s Plenary Session of the Congress made the decision despite previous governmental pushes for GM legalization. The known and unknown dangers of GMO crops seem to supersede even executive-level governmental directives.

... While the ban will stop the flow of GM foods within the nation’s borders, a recent test conducted by the Peruvian Association of Consumers and Users (ASPEC) found that 77 percent of supermarket products tested contained GM contaminants. Genetically modified ingredients are so widespread among nations that it will be extremely difficult for Peru and other countries to eliminate products containing GMOs completely.
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Banning GMO has nothing to do with the science.

It has everything to do with countries wishing to raise non-tarriff obsticles to trade to protect their small agricultural economies from the vast US grain giants.

 

[dblack]

So at least we're all agreeing that corporate money is what really runs the country, and that's the real problem with our government?

Yep. And it seems to get worse with every new law they pass. We keep giving them more and more power to control us.

 

[Samson]

So at least we're all agreeing that corporate money is what really runs the country, and that's the real problem with our government?

Yep. And it seems to get worse with every new law they pass. We keep giving them more and more power to control us.

How, precisely does the Farmer Assurance Provision, Section 735 control you?

My guess is you don't even know what it says.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I first heard this story on the liberal talk channel on Sirius, lest some of you think the left is giving Obama a pass here.

 

[Pogo]

Indeed, and I hope you all enjoy paying for them.
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Indeed. Ho Foods' profit margin is notoriously gougy. Now, Trader Joe's says everything they have is non-GMO, and usually at a fraction of the price, so there you go.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UFc1pr2yUU]Whole Foods Parking Lot - Music Video [HD] - YouTube[/ame]

Trader Joe's are just too limited in what they offer.....and that video is bullshit....the Whole foods i go to aint like that......they have big carts.....the parking aint as bad as they are making it out to be....

C'mon Harry, the video is just comic relief. The mention of Ho Foods reminded me of it; not really relevant to any point here, except maybe a satirical overtone of elitism at the Ho.

Trader Joe's for their part limits itself to I think about 4000 items on the shelves rather than the 10,000 that the average grocery carries. That's an integral part of how they keep prices down-- when you carry 54 different kinds of pasta sauce and 45 of them don't sell, that's a cost drag. When you carry five and two don't sell -- not so much.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This is how Monsanto operates:

Blamed for Bee Collapse, Monsanto Buys Bee Research Firm

That is how they exert control.

 

[Sallow]

Sadly, this would have happened even if Romney were elected. Corporations like Monsanto have paid for our politicians a long time ago.

Bullshit!

What?

Of course it would of happened..and worse.

It's the Conservatives who foster the bullshit that corporations are people with limited liability and money is speech.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Whole Foods sells non GMO products.

Indeed, and I hope you all enjoy paying for them.
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Indeed. Ho Foods' profit margin is notoriously gougy. Now, Trader Joe's says everything they have is non-GMO, and usually at a fraction of the price, so there you go.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UFc1pr2yUU"]Whole Foods Parking Lot - Music Video [HD] - YouTube[/ame]

You have a strange definition of fraction.

To be fair, 250/60 is a fraction, just not one that is commonly used to tout better prices.

 

[Pogo]

What's wrong with this picture? Which part of this map o' the world is not like the other parts?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So at least we're all agreeing that corporate money is what really runs the country, and that's the real problem with our government?

I am calling everyone in this thread a fool, and that means I agree with all of you. No wonder you think you are smart.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So at least we're all agreeing that corporate money is what really runs the country, and that's the real problem with our government?

Yep. And it seems to get worse with every new law they pass. We keep giving them more and more power to control us.

You are flat out wrong on this one. The anti-GMO crowd is using the government to take away your choices and stifle scientific progress in the name of protecting people from non existent dangers. This is pure bullshit.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I first heard this story on the liberal talk channel on Sirius, lest some of you think the left is giving Obama a pass here.

That must be why I am screaming about that.

 

[Pogo]

So at least we're all agreeing that corporate money is what really runs the country, and that's the real problem with our government?

I am calling everyone in this thread a fool, and that means I agree with all of you. No wonder you think you are smart.

Nothing new there- you've played both sides of the fence already... first as a sycophant for Big God, then ragging on Harry Reid for being a sycophant for Big God. Your posting has pretty well shot itself in the back sixty-seven times, pausing only once to reload.

Since you have no position beyond navel-gazing, give us back our bandwidth.

 

[Pogo]

Hungary Destroys All Monsanto GMO Corn Fields​

>> Hungary has taken a bold stand against biotech giant Monsanto and genetic modification by destroying 1000 acres of maize found to have been grown with genetically modified seeds, according to Hungary deputy state secretary of the Ministry of Rural Development Lajos Bognar.

In a similar stance against GM ingredients, Peru has also passed a 10 year ban on GM foods. <<

(from that ^^ link: )
>> Peru has also taken a stand for health freedom, passing a monumental 10 year ban on genetically modified foods. Amazingly, Peru&#8217;s Plenary Session of the Congress made the decision despite previous governmental pushes for GM legalization. The known and unknown dangers of GMO crops seem to supersede even executive-level governmental directives.

... While the ban will stop the flow of GM foods within the nation&#8217;s borders, a recent test conducted by the Peruvian Association of Consumers and Users (ASPEC) found that 77 percent of supermarket products tested contained GM contaminants. Genetically modified ingredients are so widespread among nations that it will be extremely difficult for Peru and other countries to eliminate products containing GMOs completely.
<<

Banning GMO has nothing to do with the science.

It has everything to do with countries wishing to raise non-tarriff obsticles to trade to protect their small agricultural economies from the vast US grain giants.

Riiiiiight. Couldn't possibly be the science....

>> In a 2011 report called Roundup and Birth Defects: Is the Public Being Kept in the Dark?, eight international scientists cited study after study linking glyphosate to birth defects in birds and amphibians, as well as to cancer, endocrine disruption, damage to DNA, and reproductive and developmental damage in mammals, even at very low doses. Moreover, the report said, Monsanto and the rest of the herbicide industry had known since the 1980s that glyphosate causes malformations in animals, and that EU governments ignored these studies. Here in the United States, the EPA continues to assert that Roundup is safe.

Another concern is environmental damage. Roundup ends up in wetlands due to runoff and inadvertent spraying. In one study, the recommended application of Roundup sold to homeowners and gardeners killed up to 86 percent of frogs in one day, according to University of Pittsburgh assistant professor Rick Relyea. Even at a third of the recommended strength, Relyea found, Roundup killed 98 percent of all tadpoles. Amphibians, living in water and on land, are considered bellwether environmental species.

Roundup also damages soil. Two Purdue scientists, professor emeritus Don Huber and G.S. Johal, said in a paper published in 2009 that &#8220;the widespread use of glyphosate &#8230;can significantly increase the severity of various plant diseases, impair plant defense to pathogens and disease and immobilize soil and plant nutrients rendering them unavailable for plant use. &#8221; The pair warned that &#8220;ignoring potential non-target side effects &#8230; may have dire consequences for agriculture such as rendering soils infertile, crops nonproductive and plants less nutritious.&#8221;

In 2008, a group of rBST-using farmers formed a group called American Farmers for the Advancement and Conservation of Technology, or AFACT, with help from Monsanto. AFACT tried to ban no-rBST labeling claims in many states, but dropped those efforts in most states &#8212; except Ohio, where the ban effort ended in a lawsuit. An Ohio circuit court found in 2010 that there was a compositional difference between rBST milk and milk from untreated cows, and that the FDA&#8217;s position was &#8220;inherently misleading.&#8221; The court found higher levels of a cancer-causing compound, lower-quality milk because of higher fat and lower protein, and higher white cell counts, which means the milk sours more quickly.

Packaging for injectable rBST lists a number of other side effects for cows, including abscesses, ulcers on udders, reduced pregnancy rates, visibly abnormal milk and hoof disorders. <<

Nope -- no science there -- that's approximately one page from the 13-page article I linked earlier for Montrovant. Amazing what you can find when you read links.

But pay no attention to the science behind the curtain, because hey, there's no conflict of interest in the federal government, who would never have anything but the best interests of the people in mind when it comes to legislation. Never. Surely that's why all these industry CEOs come to the DC revolving door-- so they can make sure their corporations have free rein to help the people, which is of course the ultimate goal of industry.

So let's shut up and assume the position where we can, gosh darn it, do our part:

 

[Montrovant]

I think the point might be that banning ALL GMOs because one or some are found to be hazardous is an issue.

 

[JoeB131]

Sort of disturbing that these things can find their way into bills and no one knows who put them there.

But unlike the stupid law that exempts gun manufacturers, there's really no evidence that Genetically Modified foods are bad for people in any way, shape or form.

People might not like the idea, but we've been genetically modifying food on our own through genetic breeding, which is why a wild turkey looks like this.

And a Domestic Turkey looks like this..

 

[Samson]

Hungary Destroys All Monsanto GMO Corn Fields​

>> Hungary has taken a bold stand against biotech giant Monsanto and genetic modification by destroying 1000 acres of maize found to have been grown with genetically modified seeds, according to Hungary deputy state secretary of the Ministry of Rural Development Lajos Bognar.

In a similar stance against GM ingredients, Peru has also passed a 10 year ban on GM foods. <<

(from that ^^ link: )
>> Peru has also taken a stand for health freedom, passing a monumental 10 year ban on genetically modified foods. Amazingly, Peru’s Plenary Session of the Congress made the decision despite previous governmental pushes for GM legalization. The known and unknown dangers of GMO crops seem to supersede even executive-level governmental directives.

... While the ban will stop the flow of GM foods within the nation’s borders, a recent test conducted by the Peruvian Association of Consumers and Users (ASPEC) found that 77 percent of supermarket products tested contained GM contaminants. Genetically modified ingredients are so widespread among nations that it will be extremely difficult for Peru and other countries to eliminate products containing GMOs completely.
<<

Banning GMO has nothing to do with the science.

It has everything to do with countries wishing to raise non-tarriff obsticles to trade to protect their small agricultural economies from the vast US grain giants.

Riiiiiight. Couldn't possibly be the science....

>> In a 2011 report called Roundup and Birth Defects: Is the Public Being Kept in the Dark?, eight international scientists cited study after study linking glyphosate to birth defects in birds and amphibians, as well as to cancer, endocrine disruption, damage to DNA, and reproductive and developmental damage in mammals, even at very low doses. Moreover, the report said, Monsanto and the rest of the herbicide industry had known since the 1980s that glyphosate causes malformations in animals, and that EU governments ignored these studies. Here in the United States, the EPA continues to assert that Roundup is safe.

Another concern is environmental damage. Roundup ends up in wetlands due to runoff and inadvertent spraying. In one study, the recommended application of Roundup sold to homeowners and gardeners killed up to 86 percent of frogs in one day, according to University of Pittsburgh assistant professor Rick Relyea. Even at a third of the recommended strength, Relyea found, Roundup killed 98 percent of all tadpoles. Amphibians, living in water and on land, are considered bellwether environmental species.

Roundup also damages soil. Two Purdue scientists, professor emeritus Don Huber and G.S. Johal, said in a paper published in 2009 that “the widespread use of glyphosate …can significantly increase the severity of various plant diseases, impair plant defense to pathogens and disease and immobilize soil and plant nutrients rendering them unavailable for plant use. ” The pair warned that “ignoring potential non-target side effects … may have dire consequences for agriculture such as rendering soils infertile, crops nonproductive and plants less nutritious.”

In 2008, a group of rBST-using farmers formed a group called American Farmers for the Advancement and Conservation of Technology, or AFACT, with help from Monsanto. AFACT tried to ban no-rBST labeling claims in many states, but dropped those efforts in most states — except Ohio, where the ban effort ended in a lawsuit. An Ohio circuit court found in 2010 that there was a compositional difference between rBST milk and milk from untreated cows, and that the FDA’s position was “inherently misleading.” The court found higher levels of a cancer-causing compound, lower-quality milk because of higher fat and lower protein, and higher white cell counts, which means the milk sours more quickly.

Packaging for injectable rBST lists a number of other side effects for cows, including abscesses, ulcers on udders, reduced pregnancy rates, visibly abnormal milk and hoof disorders. <<

Nope -- no science there -- that's approximately one page from the 13-page article I linked earlier for Montrovant. Amazing what you can find when you read links.

But pay no attention to the science behind the curtain, because hey, there's no conflict of interest in the federal government, who would never have anything but the best interests of the people in mind when it comes to legislation. Never. Surely that's why all these industry CEOs come to the DC revolving door-- so they can make sure their corporations have free rein to help the people, which is of course the ultimate goal of industry.

So let's shut up and assume the position where we can, gosh darn it, do our part:

Typical.

Your post has nothing to do with GMO.

Thanks for making my point: The scientifically ignorant have no business determining what is scientifically acceptable.

 

[Pogo]

I think the point might be that banning ALL GMOs because one or some are found to be hazardous is an issue.

I don't see it as a question of "GMO-A causes cancer" and "GMO-B kills frogs". That's missing the forest for the trees. The matter for me is not individual cases but a corrupt incestuous government system that allows GMO-A, GMO-B, GMO-C and on down the alphabet into the food supply, because we've installed foxes to guard the chicken coop.

Just as with Geithner or Paulsen or Powell (Jr), we've got conflicts of interest running rampant-- again illustrated thus:

That ^^ is the disease. rBST and Bt and glyphosate are just symptoms of it.​

 

[Samson]

I think the point might be that banning ALL GMOs because one or some are found to be hazardous is an issue.

I don't see it as a question of "GMO-A causes cancer" and "GMO-B kills frogs". That's missing the forest for the trees. .[/CENTER]

No, that's called "evidence."

Since you have none, you must invent a conspiracy theory.