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Obama to Normalize Relations with Cuba

I'd love to be able to visit Cuba someday.

And they would love to have you come to their isolated resorts with loyal party member employees and take your tourist dollars. What you won't see are the regular party members who work for the state and make about $19 US per month. Not because they don't trust you, but because they don't trust their own people. But then it's a Democrats utopia in Cuba, so you'd probably love it.
 
you ignorant "N####R"'s far right hatred for BHO only fuels his ambition and his accomplishments

he is far brighter than all of you put together

since the lost election, he got a budget you all hate that does not hurt the EO or the ACA, the eventual passages of 23 controversial appointments thanks to Cruz and Lee, and what else . . . oh yeah Cuba

No wonder the Republican mainstream does not let you fools play any more Republican games

Obama couldn't find his own skinny ass with both hands tied behind him with illustrated instructions. And that's from a Republican who voted for him once. That was a mistake I didn't make the second time. But then I'm not a fake Republican like you Jake.
 
you ignorant "N####R"'s far right hatred for BHO only fuels his ambition and his accomplishments

he is far brighter than all of you put together

since the lost election, he got a budget you all hate that does not hurt the EO or the ACA, the eventual passages of 23 controversial appointments thanks to Cruz and Lee, and what else . . . oh yeah Cuba

No wonder the Republican mainstream does not let you fools play any more Republican games

Obama couldn't find his own skinny ass with both hands tied behind him with illustrated instructions. And that's from a Republican who voted for him once. That was a mistake I didn't make the second time. But then I'm not a fake Republican like you Jake.

You are a fake, yes, not just a Republican is all.

And you ignored

BHO "is far brighter than all of you put together"

"he got a budget you all hate that does not hurt the EO or the ACA, the eventual passages of 23 controversial appointments thanks to Cruz and Lee, and what else . . . oh yeah Cuba"

Outlier fools such as yourself are not allowed to "play any more Republican games"
 
And all this simply to create a comfortable home for a president who will go into exile to avoid a treason trial when he's termed out. Unless, of course, he has completed his agenda and there will be no term limits or even elections.

The sanctuary concept seems more realistic but don't overlook the possibilities.
 
And all this simply to create a comfortable home for a president who will go into exile to avoid a treason trial when he's termed out. Unless, of course, he has completed his agenda and there will be no term limits or even elections.

The sanctuary concept seems more realistic but don't overlook the possibilities.

Sort of like Dallas is to republican presidents.....
 
And all this simply to create a comfortable home for a president who will go into exile to avoid a treason trial when he's termed out. Unless, of course, he has completed his agenda and there will be no term limits or even elections.

The sanctuary concept seems more realistic but don't overlook the possibilities.

Loony talk by HBH.
 
He cannot end the embargo. He can only nibble at the edges. There will be no investment in Cuba. Cuba doesn't permit it. The Cuban sources of money from Russia and Venezuela dried up. obama threw a lifeline to the Castro regime.
That's not quite correct. Cuba once servery restricted all foreign investments and property ownership but things have changed. Since the 1990's Cuban law permitted the construction of condominium style buildings where foreigners could buy an apartment. In 2011, Cuban law changed to allow for sale of property between individuals. That has been extend to foreigners living in Cuba. Recently, Cuba has change their regulations to allow foreigners who buy property in Cuba to obtain a 1 year renewable visa. Condos and golf courses are being constructed now primary for sale to foreigners. Real estate prices in Cuba have been rising as prime ocean property is being gobbled up by foreigners.

Although direct investment in Cuba by US citizens is restricted. There is investment through 3rd parties. Closed end investment funds out of London who invest in Cuban bonds can be bought. A number of corporate giants have entered into agreements with Cuba to partner in developments. So yes, you can invest in Cuba but it's convoluted. However, you can bet that's going change within a few years, maybe sooner.
 
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The Cuban news is great, and the GOP will swing behind it soon.

The idea of MLB in Havana is exciting.

The "ihateobama" assholes are just farting noisily, nothing more.
 
I have no idea about your option B. Did you come up with that yourself?

Yes I have read that Cubans support Castro. I can't quote it right now, but the whole concept of the bay of Pigs fiasco was that the people were going to rise up and support the invaders, which, of course did not even remotely have a basis in reality. The people who remained after the exodus of the capitalists have supported Castro for all these years. There has never been a serious revolt, or even a demonstration of opposition. In addition, they have been fed propaganda of how the evil USA wants to invade and enslave them, which is similar to the propaganda from our Right, that somehow, a bunch of machete wielding peasants are going to invade Miami Beach and take away our freedoms, or something or other.

And, yes. Corporations are going to love this. Cuba is an island that has not yet been introduced to the wonderful marketing world of Walmart!

Option? WTF are you talking about? I said two groups are pleased with this. A.) Corporatists and B.) Neo-anarchist socialist cheerleaders.

You don't know what the hell you're talking about. The Bay of Pigs was a botched invasion attempt, it had nothing to do with lack of opposition to Castro. I didn't say "corporations" I said "corporatists!" Jeesh, Louise... your comprehension level is so fucked it's a miracle you managed to log in here.

And... can someone help me here... WHEN did the Liberals stop giving a single shit about human rights?
 
Boss certainly knows nothing of the Cuban situation or the events surrounding it.
 
When you think about it, Castro worked out a pretty good deal for Cuba. he replaced a totally corrupt dictatorship with a communist regime, the major change being that the dictator was no longer stealing the money for himself, but investing it in the infrastructure. Unfortunately for him, the US cut off all sources of money to do that. Castro made lemonade out of lemons by talking the Soviets into propping up his non-economy for about 40 years. The Soviets needed his sugar, and Castro needed everything. The people are satisfied with the government, and Cuba has not had to really produce anything in all that time. His only mistake was that missile thing. Now that the Soviets are no longer propping up their economy, Cuba has to find another sugar daddy. That is a win/win situation for us, because once the Cubans realize that one can buy an American automobile to replace the 1957 Chevy with it's engine replaced by a mule, with a new fuel injected model, the Cubans will embrace capitalism, just like the Chinese are doing. All we can do is to hope that they don't send us another Ricky Ricardo.

It's astonishing to me, the sheer lack of intelligence on this topic. I can read this paragraph and almost hear Peter Griffin's voice from Family Guy.

"The people are satisfied with the government..." Really, Vand Castro? LMFAO!

Again... two groups are pleased about this....

A.) Corporatists who are looking to make a buck.
B.) Socialist-cheerleading Neo-Anarchist Lefties who want to "stick it to the man!"

They've got your bases covered both ways, eh Vandyman?

I have no idea about your option B. Did you come up with that yourself?

Yes I have read that Cubans support Castro. I can't quote it right now, but the whole concept of the bay of Pigs fiasco was that the people were going to rise up and support the invaders, which, of course did not even remotely have a basis in reality. The people who remained after the exodus of the capitalists have supported Castro for all these years. There has never been a serious revolt, or even a demonstration of opposition. In addition, they have been fed propaganda of how the evil USA wants to invade and enslave them, which is similar to the propaganda from our Right, that somehow, a bunch of machete wielding peasants are going to invade Miami Beach and take away our freedoms, or something or other.

And, yes. Corporations are going to love this. Cuba is an island that has not yet been introduced to the wonderful marketing world of Walmart!
There won't be a Walmart in Cuba. If there were Castro would own it. Everything in Cuba is owned by the regime.
 
Provide
Boss certainly knows nothing of the Cuban situation or the events surrounding it.

Boss is also extremely upset about human rights violations in Cuba. I am sure that is why he wants to shut down Guantanamo, where we have been torturing people.....
Provide actual evidence we are torturing people at Gitmo. Hurry now it should not be hard to find since you claim we are doing it and have been for years.
 
When you think about it, Castro worked out a pretty good deal for Cuba. he replaced a totally corrupt dictatorship with a communist regime, the major change being that the dictator was no longer stealing the money for himself, but investing it in the infrastructure. Unfortunately for him, the US cut off all sources of money to do that. Castro made lemonade out of lemons by talking the Soviets into propping up his non-economy for about 40 years. The Soviets needed his sugar, and Castro needed everything. The people are satisfied with the government, and Cuba has not had to really produce anything in all that time. His only mistake was that missile thing. Now that the Soviets are no longer propping up their economy, Cuba has to find another sugar daddy. That is a win/win situation for us, because once the Cubans realize that one can buy an American automobile to replace the 1957 Chevy with it's engine replaced by a mule, with a new fuel injected model, the Cubans will embrace capitalism, just like the Chinese are doing. All we can do is to hope that they don't send us another Ricky Ricardo.

It's astonishing to me, the sheer lack of intelligence on this topic. I can read this paragraph and almost hear Peter Griffin's voice from Family Guy.

"The people are satisfied with the government..." Really, Vand Castro? LMFAO!

Again... two groups are pleased about this....

A.) Corporatists who are looking to make a buck.
B.) Socialist-cheerleading Neo-Anarchist Lefties who want to "stick it to the man!"

They've got your bases covered both ways, eh Vandyman?

I have no idea about your option B. Did you come up with that yourself?

Yes I have read that Cubans support Castro. I can't quote it right now, but the whole concept of the bay of Pigs fiasco was that the people were going to rise up and support the invaders, which, of course did not even remotely have a basis in reality. The people who remained after the exodus of the capitalists have supported Castro for all these years. There has never been a serious revolt, or even a demonstration of opposition. In addition, they have been fed propaganda of how the evil USA wants to invade and enslave them, which is similar to the propaganda from our Right, that somehow, a bunch of machete wielding peasants are going to invade Miami Beach and take away our freedoms, or something or other.

And, yes. Corporations are going to love this. Cuba is an island that has not yet been introduced to the wonderful marketing world of Walmart!
There won't be a Walmart in Cuba. If there were Castro would own it. Everything in Cuba is owned by the regime.

Tipsy, if you don't think that Walmart has not already started to put together a task force to gain entry into marketing in Cuba, you are, indeed, very naïve.
 
Provide
Boss certainly knows nothing of the Cuban situation or the events surrounding it.

Boss is also extremely upset about human rights violations in Cuba. I am sure that is why he wants to shut down Guantanamo, where we have been torturing people.....
Provide actual evidence we are torturing people at Gitmo. Hurry now it should not be hard to find since you claim we are doing it and have been for years.

Why, of course we are not torturing in Guantanamo! We just happen to have this prison there, which is closed to the press, and not on US soil, where absolutely nothing is revealed to the American public because of total isolation and restricted access, and where only military laws apply, not federal laws. Nobody was doing much with it, so we just threw some folks in there a decade or two ago. Habitus Corpus? I doubt if that applies in a military prison on a military base in a foreign country. So, where do you think that the waterboarding took place, Leavenworth?
 

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