OBAMA- "We have not created an entitlement state"

You can climb it, it just requires hard work, or even working in a job you may think is "beneath you" for a while. And people expect to shoot up the ladder with no effort nowadays, it takes work, it takes some sacrifice, something people today just can't seem to muster.

Americans do work hard. As hard as they ever have and they have less to show for it. American workers are sacrificing. Working harder and receiving less for it. Lower pay, no pay increases, shoddy healthcare, no paid vacations, no retirement plan

Some can and do climb the ladder of success....but all can't
They used to be able to

All CAN.. they have the SAME freedom and access to do so.. their CHOICES and ACTIONS are all that prevents ANYONE from moving up

When you would rather settle and never advance yourself past the level that only affords minimum, or when you would rather have handouts than try to advance.. YOU are the problem

Can you provide a concrete example of how you have been a success in the private business world?
 
All sorts of generalizations in there, and not enough to continue to rob people to pay for your pet social projects.

Yes or No...
Do you own or run the type of business where you would hire someone into a position for which they would be considered over-qualified?

I don't run or own any business. what I do is pay too much taxes to support lazy bastards, and the useless assoles in the government who run the programs that support the lazy bastards.

All you had to do was admit all you have is sound bites.
Are you retired?
Were you working before Clinton/GW/Obama sold us out?
 
You can climb it, it just requires hard work, or even working in a job you may think is "beneath you" for a while. And people expect to shoot up the ladder with no effort nowadays, it takes work, it takes some sacrifice, something people today just can't seem to muster.

Americans do work hard. As hard as they ever have and they have less to show for it. American workers are sacrificing. Working harder and receiving less for it. Lower pay, no pay increases, shoddy healthcare, no paid vacations, no retirement plan

Some can and do climb the ladder of success....but all can't
They used to be able to

All CAN.. they have the SAME freedom and access to do so.. their CHOICES and ACTIONS are all that prevents ANYONE from moving up

When you would rather settle and never advance yourself past the level that only affords minimum, or when you would rather have handouts than try to advance.. YOU are the problem

Not true

The access is no longer there. There are fewer and fewer jobs that people can support themselves on. People can find jobs....what they cannot find is careers that will enable them to support themselvces and a family
 
Yes or No...
Do you own or run the type of business where you would hire someone into a position for which they would be considered over-qualified?

I don't run or own any business. what I do is pay too much taxes to support lazy bastards, and the useless assoles in the government who run the programs that support the lazy bastards.

All you had to do was admit all you have is sound bites.
Are you retired?
Were you working before Clinton/GW/Obama sold us out?

I have opinions, not sound bites. I am not retired.

I started working full time in 1999, right after getting my Masters Degree in ChemE. I started working part time during school and full time during summers when I was 15.
 
Americans do work hard. As hard as they ever have and they have less to show for it. American workers are sacrificing. Working harder and receiving less for it. Lower pay, no pay increases, shoddy healthcare, no paid vacations, no retirement plan

Some can and do climb the ladder of success....but all can't
They used to be able to

All CAN.. they have the SAME freedom and access to do so.. their CHOICES and ACTIONS are all that prevents ANYONE from moving up

When you would rather settle and never advance yourself past the level that only affords minimum, or when you would rather have handouts than try to advance.. YOU are the problem

Not true

The access is no longer there. There are fewer and fewer jobs that people can support themselves on. People can find jobs....what they cannot find is careers that will enable them to support themselvces and a family

I'm waiting for an answer to my questions.
People need to be inspired by their answers.
 
I don't run or own any business. what I do is pay too much taxes to support lazy bastards, and the useless assoles in the government who run the programs that support the lazy bastards.

All you had to do was admit all you have is sound bites.
Are you retired?
Were you working before Clinton/GW/Obama sold us out?

I have opinions, not sound bites. I am not retired.

I started working full time in 1999, right after getting my Masters Degree in ChemE. I started working part time during school and full time during summers when I was 15.

Ok; at least you admit your statements are opinions.
In which region of the US do you reside?
 
He hasn't CREATED the entitlement state, he just made it bigger.

"Read my lips, no new taxes" George H.W. didn't create any new taxes, he didn't even raise existing taxes, only Congress can do that, and H.W, was branded a liar and lost his job because the Democrats falsely accused him, and the 'unwashed peasants', (stupid voters) bought the lie!

Imagine George H.W. vetoing the bill, he would have been accused of shutting down the Government and the same unwashed peasants would have bought that lie too.

To the ignorant masses a lie is easier to believe than the truth, as long as it's delivered more articulately.

Actually..no.

Reagan's tax cut and massive spending couldn't even be cleared up with him raising taxes on the middle class.

George HW Bush, knew this.

In fact, he coined the phrase "Voodoo economics".

He knew that taxes would have to be raised to pay for Reagan's massive spending.

So he really did lie.

Actually no, you're that simple!
 
The Nanny State


Food Stamps - 2009 $54 Billion 2013 $80 Billion

Disability - 2009 $115 Billion 2013 $139 Billion

Welfare - 2009 $161 Billion 2013 $186 Billion



Sources: USDA, Social Security Administration & CBO


Let's see here….carry the one….divide by three…..that would mean that from 2009 until 2013….

2009

$161 billion
$115 billion
$54 billion
___________

$330 billion


2013

$80 billion
$139 billion
$186 billion
__________

$405 billion



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A welfare/warfare state was created by the 1935 Socialist revolution . Our first prime minister was a scumbag named FDR. Now the parasites claim that the taxpayers and producers owe them a living.

The trend is unstoppable - neither party has the testicular fortitude to stop the march. The cancer will destroy the nation.

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Obama: you didn't create your company; we did.

Obama: we didn't create the entitlement state; you did.

Obama's idea of taking responsibility.
 
It's derivative of FDR's New Deal to create a permanent underclass dependent on government

Obama is a truly Great Democrat, which is to say he's against our Founding principles
 
Where has anyone ever said "Everyone must go to college"?
Another myth being pushed by Conservatives. Progressives have pushed post secondary education for those who desire it. That education has always included vocational education

What we have is a vast underclass without access to the ladder to success. Yes I know a few can make it through hard work and perserverence, but that ladder used to carry everyone who was willing to work hard.

Republicans fight tooth and nail against a minimum wage that will get you further up that ladder. But the problem is a lack of jobs that provide the ability to support a family.

The result is an entitlement system where the taxpayers subsidize employers who pay low wages by providing a safety net for their employees

Everyone going to college has been the progressive concept since the 60's and 70's. It helps progressive professors, and is seen as a great way to get more progressives.

We have a vast underclass with no reason to get to the ladder, because their basic needs are taken care of. Coupled with punisment via loss of benefits for working in most cases, and you create no reason for people to better themselves, and no coercsion for them to better themselves because progressives are afraid to hurt people feelwings.

If you are supporting a family on minimum wage, somewhere you fucked up, simple as that.

This whole post is complete bullshit.

First off, there's never been a move to mandate everyone go to college. Again, the move was to make it available. There is no conspiracy to make more people "progressive".

Second off, we don't have a vast underclass with no reason to climb the ladder. What we have are people with no buy in because folks like yourself do their very best to shutdown opportunity to people they don't like.

And third? A minimum wage is needed. Without government intervention business would engage in massive wage theft.

Progressive intervention helped America under FDR. Some of the great great grandchildren of those he helped are now posting here and shilling for the ultra rich and poor overtaxed corporations.
 
Americans do work hard. As hard as they ever have and they have less to show for it. American workers are sacrificing. Working harder and receiving less for it. Lower pay, no pay increases, shoddy healthcare, no paid vacations, no retirement plan

Some can and do climb the ladder of success....but all can't
They used to be able to

All CAN.. they have the SAME freedom and access to do so.. their CHOICES and ACTIONS are all that prevents ANYONE from moving up

When you would rather settle and never advance yourself past the level that only affords minimum, or when you would rather have handouts than try to advance.. YOU are the problem

Can you provide a concrete example of how you have been a success in the private business world?

What.. you want my resume, my w2's etc after growing up in a household of just me and a grandmother who went around picking up cans for meat money??

I can tell you how I dragged myself up by my own bootlaces, but you and your ilk either do not believe or simply do not care as it does not fit your preconceived agenda
 
Americans do work hard. As hard as they ever have and they have less to show for it. American workers are sacrificing. Working harder and receiving less for it. Lower pay, no pay increases, shoddy healthcare, no paid vacations, no retirement plan

Some can and do climb the ladder of success....but all can't
They used to be able to

All CAN.. they have the SAME freedom and access to do so.. their CHOICES and ACTIONS are all that prevents ANYONE from moving up

When you would rather settle and never advance yourself past the level that only affords minimum, or when you would rather have handouts than try to advance.. YOU are the problem

Not true

The access is no longer there. There are fewer and fewer jobs that people can support themselves on. People can find jobs....what they cannot find is careers that will enable them to support themselvces and a family

Yes it is.. show 1 law, one piece of legislation, one government mandate, etc that does not afford the same freedom to pursue to ANYONE

You have no RIGHT to a job, health insurance, or whatever else... you have the very same opportunity to go make it yourself than you ever have
 
Everyone going to college has been the progressive concept since the 60's and 70's. It helps progressive professors, and is seen as a great way to get more progressives.

We have a vast underclass with no reason to get to the ladder, because their basic needs are taken care of. Coupled with punisment via loss of benefits for working in most cases, and you create no reason for people to better themselves, and no coercsion for them to better themselves because progressives are afraid to hurt people feelwings.

If you are supporting a family on minimum wage, somewhere you fucked up, simple as that.

This whole post is complete bullshit.

First off, there's never been a move to mandate everyone go to college. Again, the move was to make it available. There is no conspiracy to make more people "progressive".

Second off, we don't have a vast underclass with no reason to climb the ladder. What we have are people with no buy in because folks like yourself do their very best to shutdown opportunity to people they don't like.

And third? A minimum wage is needed. Without government intervention business would engage in massive wage theft.

Progressive intervention helped America under FDR. Some of the great great grandchildren of those he helped are now posting here and shilling for the ultra rich and poor overtaxed corporations.

Unconstitutional intervention did not help.. in fact it has hurt us for generations
 
Entitlement state feeds the myth that Republicans are selling that Americans are lazy, want free stuff, lack a work ethic

Americans are among the hardest workers in the world. What they want is a good job where they can support a family, maybe buy a home, send their kids to college, not worry about getting sick and losing everything

They used to be able to get that on a High School Education and a father working. Unions fought for worker rights. Good pay, vacation time, retirement benefits, healthcare. Republicans have fought for 30 years to erode that. Make workers fear for their jobs. Accept less and work harder

It is business who is entitled

Republicans aren't selling that..
and Republicans (the people) decide if they want UNIONS to run them...
you are such a liar. Because of unions demanding more and more look at Detroit
Unions were good (at ONE TIME) though always crooked
 
Entitlement state feeds the myth that Republicans are selling that Americans are lazy, want free stuff, lack a work ethic

You're absolutely right, just like it's NOT a liberal talking point that illegal immigration is fine b/c mexicans will 'do the jobs that americans won't do!' :confused:

:eusa_whistle:
 
All CAN.. they have the SAME freedom and access to do so.. their CHOICES and ACTIONS are all that prevents ANYONE from moving up

When you would rather settle and never advance yourself past the level that only affords minimum, or when you would rather have handouts than try to advance.. YOU are the problem

Not true

The access is no longer there. There are fewer and fewer jobs that people can support themselves on. People can find jobs....what they cannot find is careers that will enable them to support themselvces and a family

Yes it is.. show 1 law, one piece of legislation, one government mandate, etc that does not afford the same freedom to pursue to ANYONE

You have no RIGHT to a job, health insurance, or whatever else... you have the very same opportunity to go make it yourself than you ever have

You have fewer opportunities than workers from a generation ago had

We can ignore the problem......I got my job, who cares about you?
In the mean time we have more, formerly productive workers requiring government assistance
 
"Read my lips, no new taxes" George H.W. didn't create any new taxes, he didn't even raise existing taxes, only Congress can do that, and H.W, was branded a liar and lost his job because the Democrats falsely accused him, and the 'unwashed peasants', (stupid voters) bought the lie!

Imagine George H.W. vetoing the bill, he would have been accused of shutting down the Government and the same unwashed peasants would have bought that lie too.

To the ignorant masses a lie is easier to believe than the truth, as long as it's delivered more articulately.

Actually..no.

Reagan's tax cut and massive spending couldn't even be cleared up with him raising taxes on the middle class.

George HW Bush, knew this.

In fact, he coined the phrase "Voodoo economics".

He knew that taxes would have to be raised to pay for Reagan's massive spending.

So he really did lie.

Actually no, you're that simple!

Brilliant retort.

I have to write that down somewhere.

When you have nothing..attack the poster.

Got it..thanks!
 
tell me Obama and his comrades in arms aren't selling and have a hand in creating an entitlement state...In this economy and unemployment at 8%...what was his first priority, to put another government ENTITLEMENT on our backs called, OscamCare...


He didn't make this video FOR NOTHING



Obama lies so much you wonder how he can sleep or stand himself...but nobody love's his entitlement and pampered life as being this (brilliant human being) more than he does
 
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