Obama will not negotiate the budget

[J.E.D]

Good for the president, this nation does not negotiate with terrorists.

But wait, Obama is the King of All Terrorist. He is destroying America more than planes, gas, IED's et al could do

-Geaux

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[thereisnospoon]

Never mind his party never passed a budget as long as they had power. Now the Nitwit In Chief is taking up his dictator's hat and telling them he wants it how he wants it. Someone needs to inform Mr Constitutional law Professor that the Founders put in checks and balances for a reason.

But since he won't negotiate it gives carte blanche to the House to craft a real budget, including defunding that piece of crap Obamacare.
Obama says he will not negotiate with Congress on debt ceiling - Yahoo Finance

Budget? Obama has sent budgets that even democrats in the Senate would not even allow past committee.
I guess this is Obama's latest version of "The Red Line"....
Empty suit.

 

[Black_Label]

The proper response from the Senate is to change what they disagree with and send it back to the House for Compromise committee. The Senate has refused to do their job for 5 years now. The Democrats are the problem.

The senate has tried numerous times and the house just cans it.

We have a democratic senate and a democratic president, the GOP needs to get their heads out of their asses and stop acting like babies.

You are either amazingly stupid or a liar.... The Senate has NOT sent the bills to committee to discuss and change, the Senate has NOT sent the changed bills back to the House and formed a Compromise committee. Reid has simply trashed the bills.

I am willing to accept that you are just to stupid to know the facts, but I strongly suspect you are simply lying.

You are just a dumbass. Obama has a solid budget plan ready to go, but the GOP played games earmarking onto it the defunding of the affordable care act. All the GOP does is plays games and sends up horseshit bills and will not compromise in the slightest. That's why every budget bill comes down to the 11th hour.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The senate has tried numerous times and the house just cans it.

We have a democratic senate and a democratic president, the GOP needs to get their heads out of their asses and stop acting like babies.

You are either amazingly stupid or a liar.... The Senate has NOT sent the bills to committee to discuss and change, the Senate has NOT sent the changed bills back to the House and formed a Compromise committee. Reid has simply trashed the bills.

I am willing to accept that you are just to stupid to know the facts, but I strongly suspect you are simply lying.

You are just a dumbass. Obama has a solid budget plan ready to go, but the GOP played games earmarking onto it the defunding of the affordable care act. All the GOP does is plays games and sends up horseshit bills and will not compromise in the slightest. That's why every budget bill comes down to the 11th hour.

Really? OK post a link to this budget..A person so sure they have knowledge of a certain thing MUST be ready to share it.
So share.
BTW, to you people, compromise means "you'll do it OUR way. Or not at all"...
We did not elect conservatives to, as you people seem to believe, do the president's bidding. We sent them to STOP the liberal/progressive madness.
That's why there are THREE branches of government with equal powers.
The President is not the 'supreme leader'..

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Has anyone pointed out that the bill in question in the OP is the debt ceiling bill, not a "budget"?

 

[Care4all]

obama said he would not negotiate with the DEBT CEILING....because the debt ceiling is for what Congress has ALREADY PASSED and has already SPENT....the debt ceiling is to PAY WHAT YOU ALREADY OWE.


The Budget is a separate entity, and needs to be negotiated on its own merits so that a year or 2 from now, we won't be asking again for another raise in debt ceiling to pay for what we legally owe.

Rabbi's title is misleading.

don't any of you even understand what a debt ceiling is verses what a budget is? sheesh....

 

[BDBoop]

obama said he would not negotiate with the DEBT CEILING....because the debt ceiling is for what Congress has ALREADY PASSED and has already SPENT....the debt ceiling is to PAY WHAT YOU ALREADY OWE.


The Budget is a separate entity, and needs to be negotiated on its own merits so that a year or 2 from now, we won't be asking again for another raise in debt ceiling to pay for what we legally owe.

Rabbi's title is misleading.

don't any of you even understand what a debt ceiling is verses what a budget is? sheesh....

Nope, it's like teaching civics on Groundhog's Day. Every tine the budget ceiling is mentioned, they have NO IDEA what that means. None.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

obama said he would not negotiate with the DEBT CEILING....because the debt ceiling is for what Congress has ALREADY PASSED and has already SPENT....the debt ceiling is to PAY WHAT YOU ALREADY OWE.


The Budget is a separate entity, and needs to be negotiated on its own merits so that a year or 2 from now, we won't be asking again for another raise in debt ceiling to pay for what we legally owe.

Rabbi's title is misleading.

don't any of you even understand what a debt ceiling is verses what a budget is? sheesh....

Bingo.

 

[freedombecki]

Never mind his party never passed a budget as long as they had power. Now the Nitwit In Chief is taking up his dictator's hat and telling them he wants it how he wants it. Someone needs to inform Mr Constitutional law Professor that the Founders put in checks and balances for a reason.

But since he won't negotiate it gives carte blanche to the House to craft a real budget, including defunding that piece of crap Obamacare.
Obama says he will not negotiate with Congress on debt ceiling - Yahoo Finance

Maybe President Obama will change his mind when he realizes fiscal credibility enables one human being to advance another.

You cannot have fiscal credibility when your country suffers international credit downgrades that started with prodding Congress to spend far, far over its limit after promising the American public to half the national deficit by the end of his first term.

[ame=http://youtu.be/6jJvkkNmR_8]Obama Declares Plan to Cut Deficit in Half - YouTube[/ame]

US National Debt Clock

We're closing in on $17 trillion in our debts, and $5.5 trillion of that is owed to other nations by the US.

 

[francoHFW]

Well the deficit is halved now, no thanks to Pubs...

 

[TemplarKormac]

obama said he would not negotiate with the DEBT CEILING....because the debt ceiling is for what Congress has ALREADY PASSED and has already SPENT....the debt ceiling is to PAY WHAT YOU ALREADY OWE.


The Budget is a separate entity, and needs to be negotiated on its own merits so that a year or 2 from now, we won't be asking again for another raise in debt ceiling to pay for what we legally owe.

Rabbi's title is misleading.

don't any of you even understand what a debt ceiling is verses what a budget is? sheesh....

Bingo.

None of that matters though. Because they vote to raise one and ignore the other. It just allows them to keep spending and spending and spending.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

obama said he would not negotiate with the DEBT CEILING....because the debt ceiling is for what Congress has ALREADY PASSED and has already SPENT....the debt ceiling is to PAY WHAT YOU ALREADY OWE.


The Budget is a separate entity, and needs to be negotiated on its own merits so that a year or 2 from now, we won't be asking again for another raise in debt ceiling to pay for what we legally owe.

Rabbi's title is misleading.

don't any of you even understand what a debt ceiling is verses what a budget is? sheesh....

Bingo.

None of that matters though. Because they vote to raise one and ignore the other. It just allows them to keep spending and spending and spending.

You do understand that the budget was already passed, right? No money is spent by the government without Congress already passing a bill.

The "credit card" has already been swiped, the debt ceiling argument is about whether or not to pay the bill.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The senate has tried numerous times and the house just cans it.

We have a democratic senate and a democratic president, the GOP needs to get their heads out of their asses and stop acting like babies.

You are either amazingly stupid or a liar.... The Senate has NOT sent the bills to committee to discuss and change, the Senate has NOT sent the changed bills back to the House and formed a Compromise committee. Reid has simply trashed the bills.

I am willing to accept that you are just to stupid to know the facts, but I strongly suspect you are simply lying.

You are just a dumbass. Obama has a solid budget plan ready to go, but the GOP played games earmarking onto it the defunding of the affordable care act. All the GOP does is plays games and sends up horseshit bills and will not compromise in the slightest. That's why every budget bill comes down to the 11th hour.

So you ARE amazingly stupid or an accomplished LIAR. Since 2009 there has been no budget. What was past was continuing resolutions. A 5th grader would know this so I will assume that you are just thinking you can lie your way out of ignorant statements.

As for the Budget Obama proposes what he wants then Congress makes what they want. The two houses work out their differences and send the final to the President. I doubt ANY president has ever actually gotten what he proposed. But in the case of Obama even the Senate rejects his proposals.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

You are either amazingly stupid or a liar.... The Senate has NOT sent the bills to committee to discuss and change, the Senate has NOT sent the changed bills back to the House and formed a Compromise committee. Reid has simply trashed the bills.

I am willing to accept that you are just to stupid to know the facts, but I strongly suspect you are simply lying.

You are just a dumbass. Obama has a solid budget plan ready to go, but the GOP played games earmarking onto it the defunding of the affordable care act. All the GOP does is plays games and sends up horseshit bills and will not compromise in the slightest. That's why every budget bill comes down to the 11th hour.

So you ARE amazingly stupid or an accomplished LIAR. Since 2009 there has been no budget. What was past was continuing resolutions. A 5th grader would know this so I will assume that you are just thinking you can lie your way out of ignorant statements.

As for the Budget Obama proposes what he wants then Congress makes what they want. The two houses work out their differences and send the final to the President. I doubt ANY president has ever actually gotten what he proposed. But in the case of Obama even the Senate rejects his proposals.

For all intents and purposes, a "continuing resolution" is a "budget".

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Well the deficit is halved now, no thanks to Pubs...

Another idiot that thinks he can lie to us. The deficit is still going up. And Obama has spent over 1 trillion a year in new deficit all his first 4 years. He did in 4 years what it took Bush 2 wars and 8 years to do.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Bingo.

None of that matters though. Because they vote to raise one and ignore the other. It just allows them to keep spending and spending and spending.

You do understand that the budget was already passed, right? No money is spent by the government without Congress already passing a bill.

The "credit card" has already been swiped, the debt ceiling argument is about whether or not to pay the bill.

The current bills are done on September 30th, end of the fiscal year. The debt ceiling does not need to be raised to meet those bills. And care to link us to the supposed budget that the House and Senate passed and sent to Obama?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Bingo.

None of that matters though. Because they vote to raise one and ignore the other. It just allows them to keep spending and spending and spending.

You do understand that the budget was already passed, right? No money is spent by the government without Congress already passing a bill.

The "credit card" has already been swiped, the debt ceiling argument is about whether or not to pay the bill.

Then answer this simple question. When do we stop using the credit card and pay the debt we've accrued?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

None of that matters though. Because they vote to raise one and ignore the other. It just allows them to keep spending and spending and spending.

You do understand that the budget was already passed, right? No money is spent by the government without Congress already passing a bill.

The "credit card" has already been swiped, the debt ceiling argument is about whether or not to pay the bill.

Then answer this simple question. When do we stop using the credit card and pay the debt we've accrued?

We will "stop using the credit card" when Congress stops passing spending bills. And we are constantly paying off the debt that we've accrued, even as we take on more debt.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You do understand that the budget was already passed, right? No money is spent by the government without Congress already passing a bill.

The "credit card" has already been swiped, the debt ceiling argument is about whether or not to pay the bill.

Then answer this simple question. When do we stop using the credit card and pay the debt we've accrued?

We will "stop using the credit card" when Congress stops passing spending bills. And we are constantly paying off the debt that we've accrued, even as we take on more debt.

Once again for the slow, Fiscal year ends September 30. The Debt ceiling is fine through most of October. Now link us to the supposed budget that Congress passed for next fiscal year and show us where they went over the debt ceiling.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Does he mean this $3.77 trillion monstrosity?

President Obama's 2014 budget proposal - The Washington Post

There were two different budgets passed, but neither one came up for debate in either house. Obama's proposal never passed either.

"The House and Senate were not expected to reconcile their budget proposals in a conference report.[2] As of early April 2013, neither house had begun debating the budget resolution passed by the other, and neither house had requested a conference or named conferees.

2014 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia